France is transitioning government desktops to Linux, with each ministry required to formalize its implementation plan by autumn 2026.https://linuxiac.com/france-launches-government-linux-desktop-plan-as-windows-exit-begins/Source (French): https://www.numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-reduction-dependances-extra-europeennes/Now, which distro should they pick?
>Now, which distro should they pick?RHEL
>>108571867>Migrate away from an American company>Into the arms of another American companyI guess they'll have to go to SUSE (German) for corporate support. I just found https://www.mageia.org (never heard of it) which is French.
>>108571860They should install Gentoo, but I suspect a custom Ubuntu-based distro is more likely. Cause French gendarmerie have been using one for almost 2 decades, GendBuntu.
>>108571860my condolences to french government workers
>>108571964All they do is send emails back and forth, they'll be fineOnly real work requires windows, i'm talking engineering and such
France is the only country in Europe which at least attempts to keep up with LLMs.Mistral is not really state of the art but it's up there with mid level models. And Germany and the UK seem to have just completely given up?
>>108571964Microsoft could always open up a Paris HQ, they did that to pull Munich back into their orbit. >>108571969Yes, but think of the poor accountants who'll have to suffer LibreOffice.
>>108571867They should probably create their own.
>>108571973>the UK seem to have just completely given up?Where do you think Google Deepmind came from? The UK has always been a major hub for AI research.
>>108571860Debian stable.>>108571867>switch from glowing company os to glowing company os>>108571964Government workers uses a computer for 5 things:>browse government web portals>pdfs>emails>text documents>spreadsheet documentsThat's it. Linux is good enough for all of those.
france is fake and gay
>>108571987fair enough, i didn't know DeepMind was Britishthen it's just Germany being retarded as usual
>>108571969>>108571998> Linux is good enough for all of thoselol no
>>108571998yes, yes, yes, yes, aaack.
>>108572003> then it's just Germany being retarded as usualSorry, can't comment on that. I am on my mandatory 30-day vacation, and after that I will go to the doctor for free.
>>108572007What else does a government worker needs?>>108572024Pic rel just works.
>>108572042It's actually really horrible, and they'll suffer tons of compatibility issues.
>>108571860ChromeOSIt's based on Gentoo
>>108572081microsoft jeet detected
>>108572003Germans are too busy making money to give to Greece and Spain
>>108572042>>108572081OnlyOffice is better and doesn't have the compatibility issues
>>108572092Fuck off>>108572105OnlyOffice is indeed much better, but you'll notice they don't display their business address that prominently. On their web page (which looks like a scam site), at the bottom you find>ONLYOFFICE is owned by Ascensio System SIA, a Latvian company which is a subsidiary of OnlyOffice Capital Group Pte. Ltd. The beneficiaries of OnlyOffice Capital Group Pte. Ltd. are listed in the registry of Singapore companies by ACRA. The business profile is available here.While it's "Latvian" there are claims it's Russian connected. That'll just go nowhere in France right now.
>>108572042it's not about else, but linux in general works like shit with bugs and glitchesmore than that it might work flawless on one machine, but have problems on anotheror just break without a reason one day
>>108572007Why not?>>108572081>compatibility issues>on LibreOffice2012 called; it wants its memes back.
>>108572105>>108572116OnlyOffice is a god damn fucking Electron app that drains your battery and takes forever to save/load. Why do you need a 3Ghz processor to display text, when fucking shitty laptops from the 90's could do this just fine?
>>108571973>governments should be focused on creating their own version of bonzi buddydoes /g/ really
>>108572128I think it's because they wanted to make it easy to handle web/server deployments. So yes, it becomes shit in different ways to libre office, but the interface and compatibility are at least very near 1:1.No one is beating excel with webshit, they still use win32/GDI for it.
>>108572081It's not 2004 anymore grandpa.France is recommending open document formats since 2010.Every French government worker is required to accept open document formats since 2015.>>108572092Based and kek'd.>>108572105>russian company>drama tards on a crusade against other open source document suitesYeah no thanks.>>108572121SAAR!
>>108572151If they're really on ODF, they'll certainly have a much smoother transition.
>>108572151good morning and have a nice day
>>108572149LibreOffice has the same degree of compatibility. If you want the interface to function the same as MS Office, the very first thing you see upon starting LO is a prompt asking you if you want to enable Ribbon.
>>108571938>gender army communists lmao
>>108572178Bitch please, I just installed it and immediately ran into an issue. ODF doesn't support structured tables >The ODF standard currently lacks support for structured references. When saving a file in .ods format, structured references are converted to direct references, preserving only the values at the time of saving. Efforts to introduce structured references in the ODF Standard are underway.Plus somehow, this software runs like it's written in javascript but on my machine. Clunkiest crap ever, just more FOSS shitware inflicted on the world by idiots and pushed by those motivated by ideology instead of engineering.
>member when ballmer was eggdbet some of (you) was not even alive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ifKbS3OFvU
>>108571860CachyOS
>>108571860>Now, which distro should they pick?Devuan.
>>108571860Fucking finally!>>108571867Hell no! Does Mandrake/Mandriva still exist? Aren’t they from France? Or maybe openSnuSnu as a European company?
>>108572531OpenMandriva is French, but they really won’t like it. It’s the chud distro, and it’s not enterprise.
>>108571860*GNU plus Linux
european governments decide this all the time and then a few years later it gets scrapped again due to a mixture of obstructionists boomer government servants who refuse to learn anything new, politicians bought off by microsoft and critical underfunding of IT departments, which might also be filled with diversity hires
>>108572623>It’s the chud distroHow?
i mean neat but it's 100% going to flop like every time yurop has tried this
>>108572031muzzies get free healthcarenative germans get the gas chamber
>>108571969>>108571998they'll come crawling back once they realize excel on linux is trash, kek
>>108572121>but x in general works like shit with bugs and glitches>more than that it might work flawless on one machine, but have problems on another>or just break without a reason one daysounds like windows
>>108573782Excel on Linux doesn't exist.
>>108571860>Now, which distro should they pick?They should pump money into Mageia and bring it back into glory. Mandriva used to be the on the top of linux distros lists
the surrender frogs will be back on microslop in a few months just like the g*rm*n cucks
>>108573826it's not unfortunately
>>108573956pretty sure libreoffice has something similar, see >>108572042I doubt its any good though
>>108571860Here you go, redditor.
>>108574286Im sure a country government has more money to deal with the compatibility and cloud issues than a city
>>108574286>In 2018, journalistic group Investigate Europe released a video documentary via German public television network ARD that claimed that the majority of city workers were satisfied with the operating system, with council members insinuating that the reversal was a personally motivated decision by mayor Dieter Reiter. Reiter denied that he had initiated the reversal in gratitude for Microsoft moving its German headquarters from Unterschleißheim back to Munich.the actual reason for this is that Microslop bribed the new mayormeanwhile, the French Gendarmerie (a type of police with military status) switched to Linux in 2005 and they never went back.actual gun-carrying working white men already found Linux superior long before you were even born.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GendBuntu
>>108574402I was born in the 80s, actually. Nice swing though. Good to aim for the fences.
They'll come screaming back to it like every europeon government that tries.
>>108574402Cool background.
>>108571860a fork of glf-os, the french distro gaming based on nixos
>>108574402>UnterschleißheimMan wtf
>>108573171Check the forums. A samplehttps://forum.openmandriva.org/t/the-great-maga-linux-conspiracy/8508
>>108571860OpenMandrin a Lx (the new open release version would be a hassle to manage for the average desk jobber).
>>108575473OpenMandriva*
>>108575473They don’t support things like SecureBoot and as said before, there’s no Enterprise support (that I know of). It’s basically going to be Ubuntu or maybe Alma linux. Still the problem is Excel, and Calc sucks.
>>108571969True
>>108571860NAPOLÉON!Qui peut sauver la Nation?Un seul nom, NapoléonImpossible n'est pas FrançaisEt ça, il nous l'prometPas vraiment l'homme de ces damesMais l'homme des champs d'batailleDu haut de ses 1.20mIl a dominé tous les terrainsLes sciences modernesNapoléon!Les grandes victoires?Napoléon!Les coups de canons?Napoléon!Les bons oignons?Napoléon!Les sciences modernes?Napoléon!Les grandes victoires?Napoléon!Les coups de canons?Napoléon!Hon, hon, honNapoléon!
>>108571887>SUSE (German)suse is the property of an usa company and thus subject to the cloud act and numerous other usa laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Attachmate_Grouphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
>>108576405SUSE has been passed around like a whore, but it's headquarters are in Germany. Honestly, I'm surprised France doesn't have a flaship distro, they dominate quite a lot in open source.
>>108572042>>108572081none of you have ever opened a libreoffice spreadsheetif every agency is on the same .odf standard it's probably fine but if you're mixing excel and libreoffice with custom formulas and scripts it's going to be ASS i wouldnt want to be an IT guy for the french government right now
>>108576431I try LibreOffice Calc every year to see if it has magically improved. I don't think it's any different than a decade ago. It should be terminated.
>>108571860relatedhttps://office.eu/https://nextcloud.com/blog/press_releases/industry-initiative-launches-euro-office-as-true-sovereign-office-suite/OnlyOffice fork pushed at least in some part by the NextCloud team. A fork because OnlyOffice is Russian and does not accept much public PRs. Set up a few weeks agoI don't know if this will be a longterm commitment or just some scammers trying to get some of that sweet sweet EU grant money but it's something at least
>>108576279le dimanche matin avec ma putain sur ma mobylette !
>>108576497>https://office.eu/>Office EU is a complete cloud-based office suite (like Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace) Unless there are native apps which also work offline, into the fucking trash it goes. It is NOT like Microsoft 365 because in addition to the web version, they have native apps (not wrappers) integrated into the cloud system. Also while I fully support France taking steps to decouple themselves from the US, this is no good for anyone else. I reserve the write to type "nigger" in any cell I want without having a SWAT team send me off to a re-education camp.
>>108576561*reserve the right to write... ?Not sure what I was thinking, but write -> right.
https://office.eu/office-eu-vs-microsoft-365At least they are honest unlike the rabid lintroons who will tell you to Calc can replace Excel, despite knowing nothing about Spreadsheets or what they're even for.
>>108576561>>108576606hmm i read somewhere they are forking onlyoffice but this reads like it's just a rebrand of the nextcloud online webapps that sucks
>>108576419>I'm surprised France doesn't have a flaship distro, they dominate quite a lot in open source.this comes exclusively from people working in public universities or engineering schools, which we have a lot of, doing open source on the side.maintaining a full-fledged distro needs dedicated funding, which nobody, and certainly not the state, will provide, because they all dream of becoming the new Apple or Google and getting all the profits in their pocket, and the state will give them tons of subsidies just to have more French tech millionnaires, not just more French tech (they don't understand the tech anyway).
>>108571860>Now, which distro should they pick?Linux Mint is french
>>108572105>OnlyOfficeOnlyOffice is a fucking webapp you moron"cloud collaboration platform"
>>108573312it's not free, it never was, i don't know where this myth comes from, Germany doesn't have a single-payerit's merely compulsori can literally see the cost of health insurance on my pay stub
>>108576419>>108576736https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GendBuntuthey have one for the policemaintaining something like an ubuntu fork is literally 0 effort, tons of linux distros are ran by 5 trannies from their mom's basementsthe real "maintenance" cost is having to switch thousands of retarded office worker pcs and their habits, which is extremely hard.
I predict the future, 2-3 years from now big return to windows.
Nyarch Linux would be really funny.But I think they will go with Ubuntu
>>108571860About time. The whole EU needs to get rid of Microslop and other US grifts.
ive seen some govt workers here use linux but i dont think its big
Distrotroons get so excited when governments are negotiating licencing rates with Windows. That's all this is.
>>108571860they're fags so Bazzite
>>108577057A Paris HQ and this all goes away.
>>108576809see >>108574402
>>108577156not since the cloud act
>>108577339If they can build a private cloud for the US military, they can do it for the French.
>>108577115This but unironically. Ublue distros are good for customization and deployment
>>108577613microsoft? they can't. cloud act forces any us corporation to provide data to the us government even if the said data is oversea or/and owned by a non us subsidiary. ironically, the cloud act was made because microsoft refused to comply with the us government.
Linux is by design user-hostile. It'll never be adopted in the long term outside of servers or embedded devices.
>>108577797It's horrible for typical home users, but if you can train a worker drone to just use a couple programs, it's probably fine. Universities have deployed basic linux desktops to professors and staff for years now. Obviously the reasoning here is to cut down on the massive site licensing costs using Windows would incur. Excel probably is the missing piece of the puzzle, but perhaps EuroOffice will be the solution that works well enough for them. I will certainly be monitoring this situation.
>>108577754Oh I see, I assumed you were referring to something on the French/EU side.
>>108577797linux is not user hostile anymore. stuff like mint or ubuntu can be used by anyone
they likely ask dassault to build something like openmandriva but with blendercatia and economics software
>>108577797Define user hostility.
>>108571887mageia is av view category distribution and has slight immigrant reek
>>108571860the problem with this os is that there are so many fucking versions and versions of versions and versions of said versions. its fucking stupid
>>108574402how about gign do they have own linux distro too and maybe clashes with gendenarmee
>>108577797Linux is that low vs high iq meme where people who are half way to being a power user will have the worst experience but people who use a web browser & developers have the best exp
>>108575105they surely did not kick pxe boot server and yank powercord off the wall at ude location?
>>108573984they might not like to see mageia developer getting rich
>>108571973>France is the only country in Europe which at least attempts to keep up with LLMs.LLMs fucking suck and are worthless
>>108571974>Yes, but think of the poor accountants who'll have to suffer LibreOffice.absolutely insane, linux is total garbage for work
>>108576419putting fun back to computing maybe read linux convention discussions on forums
>>108577057eh what do school name be today ecole mutt finlandese lets just mit everything
>>108573984
>>108571860Arch
>>108576769>i don't know where this myth comesretarded self-loathing americans
>>108571860Great news! I really hope germany will move forward as well. I hate to shill shit... but there was a documentary in german TV, where they went all over europe and asked countries and states why they still rely on Windows.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7583HNrZJssubs available, honestly it's a must watch.They revealed that MS literally bribed them and all the hacks and security issues were talked down, they got money to lie. I hate those fuckers, we had a Linux distro, called Limux.. suddenly the major changed, got a billion €€€ MS deal and they went back to Windows.I hope this will change, because a windows machine, that is connected to the internet with citizen data or other private information isn't compatible with out privacy law.
>>108578047Government will create its own distro.
>>108576644I take back some of the stuff I said above, if I can self-host NextCloud (it seems I can) that actually solves a big problem for me and my current use case. Providing the performance is adequate, I may be able to drop excel. My motivation isn’t even the money I’ll save, or that I’m some FOSStard, it’s really because I’m annoyed at Microsoft for replacing qualified Whites with cheap Jeets (who are incompetent for the most part)
>>108571860>inbefore they pick an american developed one or something like Red Hat
>>108579150Never mind, even though it’s self-hosted, there are limits imposed on free users, and pricing has not been determined. Microjeets still win, for now.
>>108579555 (me)Ignore that, I was reading info on what I assume is a different product, office.eu “Euro-Office” is FOSS AGPL3
>>108572031based
>>108571860I imagine SuSE or Canonical/Ubuntu. I mean, there's no way RHEL is Yuro enough for them.
Can't wait for them to go back to Windows in few years
>>108578053GIGN is a division of the Gendarmerie. the 2nd G stands for Gendarmerie.the National Police (which is civilian) does have its own system which they took 10 years to develop under Windows until throwing it away because it was absolute crap. now everybody is asking why they didn't just borrowed the linux one from next door, and if agency rivalry really justified spending all that money for nothing.
>>108578194literally this. when I installed Linux (with KDE) on my parents' computer i was worried they would be unable to use it. but it turned out 90% of their use was already in Firefox and the rest in the file browser, so they saw no difference apart from the computer no longer being painfully slow.
>>108571860>France is transitioningkek
>>108578194Can confirm. >t. top of the curve in the meme
>>108580438Candace, no!
excel runs the worldYou need a hard replacement or your infrastructure will fall apartWhy is it so hard to replicate?
>>108572105They forked open office some time ago already https://github.com/Euro-Office
How good is Gnumeric?
>>108572042AhahahahhahaahahhahahahahaHahaha hahahaFrench is finished
>>108580469>Why is it so hard to replicate?It's not hard to replicate most of its functionalities that transcend the basics of spreadsheeting.It's just that nobody does it - because everyone capable of actually building those functionalities realises that what they accomplish is a fucking stupid backwater way of doing things better served with specialist bespoke software. And they're already capable of writing that software.Open source is utility-first - nothing tends to happen, unless the author actually has a need for it themselves. So it just never happens.
are you all retarded? theyre just going to use microsoft office suite in the browser, everything in the browser. another step in the move to containerization and dropping of the way we know an OS works. this is no different than "france is switching to chromebooks"
>>108580709Are you? That’s not free to use for a business, would still make them reliant on Microsoft and what the hell are you on about talking about knowing how an OS works!? They don’t need to know how an OS works to do government drone shit.
you can check here the list of software used by the french gov: https://code.gouv.fr/sill/listbased af
>>108571938I think so too, it would make the most sense.Then again, the French government is not known to make sense.
>>108581248highest number of users is 88 on firefox
>>108581248openshartfice didnt even qualify, they use grist for spreadsheets, lol
>>108571938Soul.
>>108571860Why is every single government so shit. Not one government has just said fuck you to Microsoft and forked windows.
>>108582281Because we are living in a society.
>>108571887linux torvalds is american
>>108581248>Debian>42 users
>>108575105The ß symbol that seems to scare you is just double (sharp) S. SS, you might say. What is your ethnic background anon?
>>108581248Never heard of grist. Need to check this out
