ITT pre-AI fomo snake oil and humiliation ritualsI'll start>books
>>108574600>Manual coding (codetrans activity)
>>108574600I didn't perform that ritual cus every time I'd open one up, I'd see the most basic ass thoughts. "keep your code decoupled". Ya, ok $100 textbook. Good to know.
nice motor no-one likes you run out of gass oldest story in book
>>108574600>bro just get a CS degree while reading these and do leetcodes and you're good for FAANG>btw Ashrajeesh Ramababu who graduated from from 'Dilwale Telugubhwala Institute of Sirs and Technology' and worked callcenter for 8 months just got your job, better luck next time!
>>108574600>techbros>readinglmao
infinite copied from stack overflow memes
just vibe code a bridge or airplane bro
>>108574879AI is already being used in the engineering workflow:Generate conceptual designs — shapes, layouts, structural concepts based on constraints like span length, terrain, materials, and cost.Optimize structures — AI can propose lighter, cheaper, or more efficient configurations by analyzing thousands of variations.Simulate loads and stresses — machine‑learning models can predict how a design behaves under traffic, wind, earthquakes, or temperature changes.Automate drafting — AI tools can produce preliminary CAD drawings or BIM models.Analyze existing bridges and planes — detect cracks, corrosion, or structural weaknesses from sensor data or drone imagery.In other words, AI is great for designing bridges and airplanes.
>>108574600>zoomers>reading and gaining knowledge from a booklamo
>>108574600god you really hate autodidacts don't you?
>>108575047Here's a list of important things you can achieve in life by autodidactication:
>>108574600>Knuth 4 volume setGimme dat asshole...yes...I'm black
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>>108574600unbelievable how much time I wasted on booksthere's literally no point in reading them unless it's something specific or some abstract conceptsimagine reading a 800 page brick before you even make anything meaningful with the technology you just read aboutmost of them just repeat the same shit, hundreds of pages to get through the absolute hello-word tier basics you could google in 2 minutesthere's a reason why there's so many of them and why they are so cheap, information is useless in a vacuum, university professors just get extra neetbux by writing them and the /g/oyim falls for it every single timedon't get me started on "to complete this university course you need to purchase the book written by me o algo", glad I cheated on all my exams with AI and spent time having fun and learning shit that's actually interesting and useful
>>108574600Coding books are cringe, but if you don't know their TLDR you'll trip over yourself when your codebase exceeds 1kLOC.
>>108574727Those books, and the ideas they promulgate are evil.
>>108575624Fuck off, amateur.
>>108574600You fell for that shit? I only had R&K book "C Programming Language", that I found lying on the floor or something like that. Also used to read a bit of Bjarne Stroustrup. Before that some random books, back when learning primitive stuff, C-like syntax etc.I paid for none of them. They were somewhat useful for basics, but they definitely would not make you good at SE. Investing in them makes no sense.Buying books and other paper stuff is something you would do in the 90's or 80's. Back when people did software with a literal book in their hands. Different times. Nobody in their right mind would do that in 2000's or 10's or now.But to be honest, I want some of those books you have... Irrational hoarding desires, I guess.>>108575624Which ones, teh "Clean Code" and something about patterns?
>>108574600Stupid fucken zoomer. Another thread hidden
>>108577067I donno I programmed in the late 90s and computer books were so expensive even then there was online documentation and you could learn by examples.
>>108574600Worst thing of those you call pre-AI fomo is definitely the writing code by hand with a marker on a fucking whiteboard. Stupidest shit ever. I was good at it, but I felt dumb and humuliated by doing it. It makes no sense and proves nothing. Nobody does that and during that time some autocomplete and basic error correction thingies were already in every single serious IDE.>>108577287What about very big books with net standards and such? Or some hardware stuff, with descriptions of registers, pins and specs of obscure microchips? I imagine some people preferred them because dial up was slow enough that searching something in the book, especially with bookmarks might have been faster. Plus companies were buying those and providing devs with them.At least from what I know and can imagine. I was a kid in 90's.
>>108577341dialup was much slower, especially for images, yes but the internet was also a lot less bloated and you would save things. The pace in general was slower. I for sure had a few books, but it was really cost prohibitive to learn completely from them. The O'Rielly stuff was popular I had a few of those. I'd also argue that the resources available online were much more thoughtful than they are now. There were mailing lists that were helpful and IRC was really useful.
>>108574727>a thick ass book>for a library
>>108577437Perhaps it was a thing for people even older than you. Who had their carrers already sorted, more or less. So they could afford that.Reason I'm convinced it was a thing is that there are some of those things available in paper, in hard cover even. Pick any protocol used in web, find a standard for it, you can buy it digital or paper. Some of those things are not really public, you have to buy it if you need it. I believe that's where the "coding with a book in your hands" thing comes from.As of today, most of generic books are literally trash. Selling point being "influencer's advice" or just "hey, he wrote a book, must be smart, might as well read it". I wonder for how long it was like that.> the resources available online were much more thoughtful than they are nowIt was like that until web2.0 bloomed. Then some terrible people discovered teh "infinite money glitch" called ad banners + user generated content. You do nothing and git dat moneys kind of scheme.Then adblockers dropped their income, then they figured how to simulate activity and do fake low quality content by hiring copywriters.Hmm, modern kids won't even know how shitty that web used to be. It was mostly deleted by AI by now.> There were mailing lists that were helpful and IRC was really usefulOnly seen a glimpse of it. Most people would not even realise what you are talking about. But I wonder if they see threads in social media with long discussions and maybe talking on discord in a similar way to what you experienced. If you ignore the botnets.
>>108575370>t. Attentionspanmaxx of 6 seconds
>>108574727>>108574600These pics give me weird urges. I want to pirate them all, load them up in a RAG, one by one. And suck all the knowledge from them dry.
>108575033clanker hands typed this
>>108577769I think that the main difference is just when writing an email you know is going to a shitload of people back then, the extra friction of writing an email made the posts a little more thoughtful than todays average. But there were still OT threads and a lot of similarities to today.
