Every 5 years I hear about some country government that's transitioning to Linux but it never seems to work out.
surely its good unless you go to lenghts to forge media data to point software products bought long times ago oopla
>>108579394I don't understand why can't they just drop Fedora KDE on everything, it would be simple enough to use and very extendable.
>>108579394They'll run Linux on machines using french tech too, right?
>>108579394I feel like I'm having dejavu but you are right. Don't know how many times I've heard the "We're switching to Linux" statement.
>>108579425Do you have any experience working in an Office, or dealing with government workers? These people are trained on a software system and expect to never have to learn anything again for their entire career. These are the sort who go on courses to learn excel.
>>108579460car can is supposedly 100Mbs tcp ip maybe its computer then
>>108579502You are vastly underestimating the capabilities of Excel. It does need a course to use.
>>108579394ENTER
>>108579425France is big enough that it would make sense to invest in making their own government distro that would be the standard for their workers but modern western governments could never get such a thing right.
>>108579514If nothing else, at least you finally find out what the Scroll Lock key does.
>>108579514That’s not the point I’m making. It is complex, for sure, it’s that they’re trained on a process, which they cannot deviate from. They learn one way to do something, and that’s that.
>>108579514hey have you looked old asterix un obelix at goverment office animation yet
>>108579394>>108579478>Linux but it never seems to work outif only it was accepted benchmark as a filter for govt employee intelligence
Linux is not US tech, right.. right? hehehe.these people are either retards or washing money, theres no other explanation of what they are doing
>>108579394It's a meme at that point. It's always an announcement that some local or national government is going to switch to linux without any follow-upEuropean digital sovereignty is the latest oligarchical scam trying to extract money out of taxpayers and trying to increase the authoritarian power of european governments
>>108579425Lack of something like crowdstrike to actively manage the system and prevent retards from bricking it or worse.The closest is grsecurity and that's no bueno.
They (French government) already developed their chat app "Tchap" using the Matrix protocol. The benefits they saw from self hosting and open protocols were probably impressive enough to make them move towards this OS switch de
>>108580050Isn't Linux a multiuser system from the get go? I'm sure it has solutions for that.
https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/02/eurooffice_forks_onlyoffice/You can now self-host your own Microsoft Office clone, and the Spreadsheet software is actually good unlike LibreOffice Calc. Pure FOSS, forked from the Russian version. Runs through your web browser.
>>108579514i think you’re being a bit autistic. sure, it has some powerful functionality that it might be useful to take a course to learn. but any reasonably intelligent and computer savvy guy can squeeze 80% of its usefulness pretty much after a day
>>108580050There are several EDR products that already support Fedora/Ubuntu, expanding to whatever distro the French government uses wouldn't be too difficult
>>108580064>Runs through your web browser.Trash
>>108580101Somehow, it feels faster than LO:Calc. Considering that many people seem to be served by simply using Google Sheets, for them, they’ll notice a performance improvement (in latency). I’m certainly going to keep my eye on it. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it also contains a Solver (LP Simplex).
>>108580157Both LO and GS are garbage, so you may be right. I'll check it out.
>>108580050>Lack of something like crowdstrike to actively manage the system and prevent retards from bricking it or worse.All those are ass backwards solutions to problems that don't even exist on unix-like systems that can run from read only file systems that can just be dumped to disk.
French police has been using Linux for many, many years on all their computers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GendBuntu
>Never works out Because porting all that shit to Linux takes time and money and government is already slow as fuck. If you move none tech employees they'll drag their heels and bitch the whole time because it isn't the system they are used to.
>>108580206>gender army
>>108579394Because politicians love to take bribes. There is simply nothing that require Windows for government work.
>>108579514There are plenty of companies that use Google suite for office. It runs in every web browsers.
>>108580076You are ignorant lol. There is a flightsim programmed in excel
>>108580162It wasn’t very speedy on some pathological tests, such as inverting a 150x150 matrix, although that’s not exactly a typical use for program. Perhaps there’s something to tweak, but excel did not break a sweat. Recent formulas like LET and LAMBDA are not there.
>>108580238I always kneel to the Excel gods.
>>108580206ye, we know the crime in france at african levels, hehehe. they would better deport macron with his linux friend back to mandela, to their south african heavens
>>108580238im talking about real work done with excel eg: data collection & analysis, not tinkertranny bullshit
>>108580443I’m not familiar with the French mandate, but it appears to say “reduce” not eliminate entirely. The vast majority of the office drones are probably fine using the free options. The 5 schizos running ‘baguette simulators’ in excel can probably get a requisition for the real thing.
>>108579394Rip FranceGood luck with shit Linux excel
>>108579527great leader would somehow be better than the present candidate
>>108579394If France manages to get a Linux infrastructure up, the rest of the EU will follow suit later. It's going to be rough for Microsoft to lose all those government deals.>>108579478In the past Microsoft would solve these by sending their rep over to butter up the decision makers. It works when the incentives are purely economical, but this time it's all about strategic European autonomy from American companies.Burgers can thank their current admin for that
>>108579527Speaking of Kim Jong Un, they have RedStar. See, it can work! All you have to do is make it state mandated, violate the GPL and fork an old desktop.
>>108579394France actually does it because they're cool like thatThey will code their own specialized software for their specialized needs on a government-made distro to ensure there is no spying. As every country should
NASA still uses VxWorks.
>>108579394All OSes have back doors. So they realize the real question is if they want an OS with a corporate-controlled back door (that they can sue) or one controlled by bankrupt loonix trannies.
>>108582445VxKex > VxWorks
>>108579394Maybe you could cite some articles talking about why it's never worked out in the past.
>>108579394>never seems to work out
>>108580076>but any reasonably intelligent and computer savvy guylol you think civil servants are intelligent or computer savvy?
>>108579394they should go with gentoo. put those nuclear power plants to use emerging packages on every clerk's workstation.
>>108579394When germany did it microsoft freaked out and started offering them high discounts on office products (including for the departments that didn't switch to linux), so they took the deal. Microsoft always does crap like that. Long ago when companies started to use linux microsoft threatened that if they would use linux that they would get sued for patent infringement
>>108579394that's fine, tr00nix is good for basic usage like making spreadsheets and such
>>108585045>$ sudo redbutton press ********>$ password: *******>$ redbutton requires trannylib-canary-3.3.1.5 or upper>$ sudo apt install trannylib>$ jsodlsnndlslmsñsmamsm> jsodlsnndlslmsñsmamsm> ( giant wall of text)>$ yes or no? y> uninstalling desktop environment 0% of 101%.........
>>108579460close enough, chips are made with a dutch tech
>>108579394Most government workers are halfwits incapable of learning something new.
>>108580621North Korea also has some of the best hackers in the world, that's just what happens when you force kids to use Linux from the start.
>>108579394The US has gone pretty nuts recently and everything is getting hacked regardless of how big the companies behind them are, so might as well just make your own government distro and hope for the best.
>>108579394It's because every office wagie needs Excel. Attempts to replace Excel have all failed, until there is something that can *completely* replace Excel, Linux is not going to be widely adopted.
I seriously hope the EU grows a fucking backbone and this starts a trend of routing around US DEIJEET companies. Europe is still dependent on USA (((cloud providers))) as well.
>>108585627so are 80% of microsoft employees so it's not like that matters, windows is literally unmaintainable at the core except for a few geriatrics who jumped ship from DEC forty years ago
>>108587795This. Excel is arguably the only MS product that leads in marketshare purely due to merit.
>>108587795>Attempts to replace Excel have all failedGoogle Sheets managed to put a dent into Excel's marketshare, lot of the more casual users and small business don't need or want all the bells and whistles of Excel.
>>108582445I've written a shitload of VxWorks code. VxWorks does exactly one thing: it enforces hard realtime guarantees (as long as your code "plays by the rules"). For any other purpose, it is steaming garbage. However, if you absolutely, positively need an interrupt serviced within a certain time window on a rad hardened CPU, well, you pretty much gotta use it. FreeRTOS isn't fully ready yet.
>>108579425>it would be simple enoughyou sweet summer child you have no idea the competence of the average office worker
What do norms even do with excel
>>108580058Its more that Active Directory is barely functional, but they ironed out enough issues that it kinda works for mass distribution. Once you have trained personell due the marketshare monopoly, the ball keeps rolling.They would be better off finding a way to make a write only host system, and a way to remotely run it from most computers with minimal hassle, and then find a reasonable way to make a one folder user file storage. But it requires some knowledge to setup, there is possible pitfalls, and its more than what a IT person could actually setup if they don't really care about infrastructure.
