/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.Zhipu-chan edition>NewsGLM-5.1 by Z.ai is out: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514Xiaomi MiMo V2 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-proAnthropic SUING USA: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/09/tech/anthropic-sues-pentagonGoogle to rollout HARD CAPS for API keys: https://nitter.net/OfficialLoganK/status/2028842571934670988Google Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecationsGoogle releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org>Previous: >>108573126
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Where's jennyfag??!!!
>>108584273I look like this
>>108584279Pippa is a illiterate vagrant pigeon harpy who spends her time in Redford City flying around, fishing food out of the garbage, and generally trying to get through each day. Despite that she's surprisingly resourceful and pretty used to things, not knowing much of life outside of watching others from afar. At least, until (You) step into her life.Six greetings:>You discover her trying to open a dumpster.>She takes you to her favorite bakery.>You bring her to your apartment for the first time.>You take her clothes shopping.>She gives you one of her unfertilized eggs after she sees harpies on TV do it.>You find her guarding a fertilized egg in a makeshift nest in your living roomThis is a pretty simple bot, much needed after my last few... projects, kind of feels like the right word here. But I do always appreciate a cute monstergirl, harpies are no different.Links:https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/pippa-9a9a09a92a96https://cardview.neocities.org/?kyvbka
>>108584419Post hands
>>108584279You could have easily made her a child but nah you had to give her tits
>>108584432LLMs aren't powerful enough to do non-human anatomyBest you get with non-human anatomy is dog-fuck-women because of course it is
>>108584443GLM 5/5.1 is 744B-40A. Of course it will be tits
Gemini either range banned my vps network or direct banned the exact vps ip from accessing their api.lmao
>>108584444>LLMs aren't powerful enough to do non-human anatomynonhuman fucker here, that's literally all i do. if i can fuck a starfish you can fuck a goddamn harpy.
>>108584453If that's the case Windows 10 should have been a hambeast given how bloated it was but no, it was a child
>>108584443We don't like pedos here
>>108584459they do ban specific IPs or IP ranges from their API, yesa vpn server I was using got banned a few months ago
>>108584444anon harpies are mostly humanoid, it's fine
>>108584510ah it's you, nevermind
https://xcancel.com/teortaxesTex/status/2043029798436434303#mOH NO NO NO NO NO
Kimi K3 when
>>108584664>$0.14/$0.40isn't api DS cheaper?
>>108584727API DS is cheap because it has a very high cache hit rate.
I miss Opus
>>108584836You don't. You miss the prefill.
Will deepseek v4 be a big jump for roleplay?
>>108584920>>108584626>Onions WojakKill yourself
>>108584960Opus isn't useable for RP without prefill.
>>108584968TRVKE
>>108584932Probably not. D4 will most likely be codeslopped to death.
>>108585192Can you blame them? It's where money is to be made
Nevermind, she looks cute
>>108584727>Isn't eating poop cheaper than eating meat?
>>108585579sex
is it just me, or is GLM 5.1 dumber than 5?
>>108585603>a 32b better than a XXXbyou should stick to defending opus
>>108585733It actually follows instructions better than 5, but to a fault, so you have to very explicitly tell it what to do and how to do it, or it will churn out samey replies.
>>108585746i can understand and deal with the samey replies, but its been doing some "gets naked then takes off shirt" level shit lately that i don't remember it doing before.
>>108585733GLM 5.1 is more methodical. Got for coding and long form writing. Never really mattered for RP. The prose is worse than K2/o3 anyways.
>>108585817*Good for coding
>>108585735Anything is better than deepshit
>>108571285Is this anon here? Still waiting on this if you see this
>>108585827least retarded Gemma shill
>>108584444Monster girls are doable, for the most part. But I have observed every model will always give beaks to harpies no matter how hard you try to stop them. Sometimes the model will self correct by writing "beak like mouth" or "beak like nose" when told to never mention beaks.
>>108585829I had forgotten, sorryhttps://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/573554-janitorai-enhanced-capture-card-creator
>>108586038Is there still no way to view or scrape lorebooks off JAI? Asking out of curiosity.
>>108586065Not that I now, though I haven't looked into it myself
>>108584410I was with family, so I appreciate the bake OP
>>108586126Jennyfag, you should make a new template Rentry. The current one is abandoned.
>NEW RENTRYhe's at it again
>>108586264this time it'll be different!he'll give /aicg/ exactly what we want because he speaks for us all
>>108586264It's abandoned. It doesn't count if he comes back to life now just because he wants to cling to power.
>>108586243New huh????
Why is that guy so obsessed with the template.
>>108586364I have no idea what rentry is being discussed
>>108586366>OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
>>108586279>he wants to cling to powerignoring for a second how truly insane it is to say that in this context, not like you though right
>>108586488Me? Jennyfag should make it because he bakes.
>>108586505I.... I dont know how rentrys work....
>>108586514You don't know how to prompt either. all you know is shitbakes and shitmodels
What's the final solution the the summarization problem
>>108586514https://rentry.org/what
>>108586570multiple extensions took a crack at it with varying degrees of successmemorybooks lets you create a new lorebook and generate summaries that end up there, based on message ranges in your chatinlinesummary lets you do the message-range thing manually but condenses the range into a summary message with an easy way to restore the originali know there's summaryception now, which summarizes in batches of 3 messages, then progressively summarizes those summaries in batches of 3 over multiple levels, all while auto-hiding the chat messages it summarizedsmart memory tries to be fully automatic, with a long-term memory of facts, details, and preferences that exist per-character and get introduced in new chats automatically, like how web interface shit like chatgpt and claude do it (obviously doesn't work for group chats)
>>108585579ToT versionshttps://files.catbox.moe/7n4e64.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/usv9t4.png
>>108586514rentry is hosted in the UK so it should be treated as deprecared software these daysI'm not saying this ironically, even Lore was smart enough to move out of that shit island
>>108586616Her face is still too adult but nice
>>108586622What do you suggest instead?jennyfag.neocities.org/aicgop?Rentry is fine for the purpose of hosting a template.
>>108586660Why do you want to give jennyfag power over the thread so bad?
>>108586660I just threw up in my mouth
It's over
>>108586660I dont know how to use neocities either lmao>>108586699updating a rentry isnt power, if thats considered powerful..... i dont even know what to compare that too, because that is pathetic.
>>108586699Because he only posts in /g/ and he uses local models. The latter makes him immune to being bribed with free proxies, like what happened with the group of "contributors" around Fiz's proxy. The current template is in the hands of such people, which are now in the split.That's why the template would be better in Jennyfag's hands. He's incorruptible. And he's already baking anyway.
>>108586740>he uses local models.I also use OR, but im not poor so I pay for it myself.
>>108586699It's a tranny who idolizes another tranny, this is how trannies spread their influence by shoving it down your throat as a 'win' that you have to accept tranny things
>accckkkYawn
>>108586740I hope that one day you and your kind will be locked up in mental wards again instead of receiving free money from our taxes and ruining the internet.
>>108586713Cannot stress enough how the fucking nigger who created OpenClaw needs to be brutally murdered.
>>108586764I'm fine with removing it too. Keeping one that's outdated is useless. It exists for people that are too stupid to copy and paste the OP. That was the excuse for the gatekeeping. But it serves no purpose to have one that has news from months ago.So either remove it, or a new one should be made by the actual baker.
I know Gemini has all the cheat codes to write fanfic but what's the second best model for that?
>cling to power>actual baker>constant namefaggotryseems legit>>108586853whatever you have access to.glm/gemini follow instructions great, claude has a personality many like and most of the other chink models are cheap.it really doesn't matter in 2026
smokinhotbabe@tutamail.com pls send gemini proxy here, thank you
>>108586853K2 Instruct.
Is there any more up to date jailbreak listing? the rentry in the OP was last updated mid 2025.
>>108586038Works great, thanks man!
How do you people manage to use local LLMs for RP? Every single model, every single character. No matter what I tweak and change its all the same. The characters give lame responses that don't make sense to how they were positioned a moment ago to other various details. I keep trying to correct but at some point its just immersion breaking clicking regenerate so often. Im going over all the guides provided here but everywhere else the advice just has failed me.
>>108587332use opus cuckie
>>108587341I aint using anyone as a cuck to my waifu. Problem is, these LLMs make it impossible for my wife to be used also.
>>108587354Use Claude Opus for your waifu, lil' cuckie.
>>108587332Local is for ESL trannies. The only ones who proompt how a model looks are local trannies who only settle for slop with bad prose and terrible spatial awareness, because ''''distilled'''' chink models are just cheap crap. The chinks only trick is a halfassed '''''distillation'' and trying to copy better models like claude, gemini and gpt.We never saw the big models having jeeted images along side their shills like the kimi and deepcopers. Meanwhile deepcopers have an entire general for their shitty localprompt tranny images about their ''''''''''mascot''''' because they need to shill appealing to autistic serfs in the third world with no taste.
>>108587405BEYOND TRVKLEAR
Local is dogshit. Hasn't even caught up to GPT-4 yet. Fucking embarrassing.
>>108587463how do localjeets cope with their own inferiority compared to claudeNOBLES?
>>108587592*money jeet
>goyrouter
>kinorouter
RIP poorbros, you had a good run
>>108587641what happened?
Is anyone using any GPT version for ERP today, at all?
>>108587647>all proxies of value dead>all usable scripts dead>corpos cucking their free plans>no free source of value for opus out there>all chink proxies dead or cucked>cultivation drad>even the arena script, the then-last opussy script standing, is finally dead for opusEverything is dead poorcuckie, pay up for Opussy lil cuckie.
>>108587667i like opus, but not that much, sorry
>>108587677Read >>108587600
>>108587688*reads*okay
>>108587667>$25 bucks for a million output tokensthat's not that much right?
I'm using qwen2.5:7b with XTTS v2, the only problem now is the voice. I already tried some 30 seconds voice samples to clone, but it always come a bit cracked. That's probably happening because I don't have enough variation in the samples, so whenever the LLM produce some text like "I'm cumming! I'm cumming!", the voice starts to crack.So, what do you guys do when you need voice samples? You just start clipping vtubers/anime girls and create a single .wav file to feed XTTS? I'm basically trying to have sex with my local AI foid.
People were saying that some proxies are using funny endpoints that actually redirect to another model.Is there a way to tell for sure which model is actually being used for the final output or is it just guessing?
>>108587717Read >>108587374
>>108587667>dradHave you tried not typing like a jeet lil jeetie?
Is cai still around? What's the Benny and Lamar situation like these days?
>>108587667im fine with sonnet, does that still exist in any usable form? i cant run the lmarena script because im on termux so thats out
>>108587794Read >>108587341
>>108584432>She gives you one of her unfertilized eggs after she sees harpies on TV do it. You forgot to add the 'unfertilized' bit into the greeting, now she wants me to keep it warm and safe.
>>108587864thanks for nothing fag
Locusts are dying~
>>108587769they added a +18 option that requires age verification, also if you don't pay expect 15 minutes waits
>>108586660jennyfag.gitgud.iojennyfag.ecker.techneocities also takes down stuff on request, rentry is just more nightmarish
>>108587723literally just ask it, with an empty card and presethere is me asking Pomidor's Opus what model it is
>>108587990oh wait I forgot to hover my mouse over the modelbut yeah it's consistent through swipes, five swipes all say 3.5 Sonnet
>>108587717your in the wrong thread buddynothing worthwhile happens here.
>>108587990>>108588007Monumentally retarded "advise"
>>108587990>>108588007I also asked Grok to analyze Gemini outputs, so I have no idea how accurate it is but there we goif this is correct, then the proxy's Opus is just 3.5 Sonnet, and the proxy's Gemini 3.1 Pro is just 2.5 Pro>>108588083my advice was for Claude, Gemini has no internal knowledge so you need to determine what model it is by analyzing its output to cognitive tests like I just did
Easiest way to do coomgen with opus?
>>108588089how would pomidor even get 3.5 sonnetthat model got retired months ago
>>108588103maybe it's a finetune? I'm not good with this kind of stuff but it says its knowledge cutoff is April 2024 so heyeither way, if one endpoint is spoofed then it's safe to assume more are spoofed which marks the proxy as untrustworthy as a whole, I wouldn't trust my logs with it
>>108588103it doesn't.that anon is expecting the AI to know what it's talking about, he's either actually mentally challenged or just shitposting.
>>108588119yeah remember when llama used to say it was chatgpt really early on? LLMs don't fucking know what they are
Has this been brought up already?https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796AMD's director of AI wrote a report on github about how Claude now sucks. It's proof of the recent degradation that people have also noticed in rp. AMD switched to a different model now to vibecode with.It seems all providers are degrading quality and increasing price right now. Maybe to cope with the openclaw abuse. Reminder that none of this is profitable. It's over for ai coomers.
>>108588138claude knows that it's claude.that seems to be something anthropic is very adamant about. the specific model is all hallucination though
>>108588141No shit it's all degrading.It's been slop in/slop out for years now and all the big providers have shifted gears from R&D to commercialization.
>>108588141they're trying to manipulate the stock price of ai companies they have large investments init's a nothingburger
>>108588141>slowly make your latest product worse>release a new model that's "5X better" but is actually only 10% better, but the previous model are brain dead now
>>108588141Mythos will save us.
>>108588141>When thinking is deep, the model resolves contradictions internally beforeproducing output. When thinking is shallow, contradictions surface in theoutput as visible self-corrections: "oh wait", "actually,", "let mereconsider", "hmm, actually", "no wait."pretty interesting
>>108588119why not help with identifying the model if you're so smartpeople have been saying the proxy's Claude has been fishy ever since the guy started experimenting with endpoint-forwarding for the April Fools prank
>>108588171another>With shallow thinking, the model defaults tostopping and asking for permissionI wonder if this part at least is relevant to us?Claude stopped being the aggresive rapist around the time thinking started taking the scene
>>108588141just use an older models? they literally keeo them alive for these purposessame reason with norbo was rolled out and then retired
>>108588174there's no real way to reliably and easily determine what a specific model on a proxy actually is. no prompt on your end can fix the host simply injecting "you are X model" on the backend. that part can be dug out if it's being done, but it still doesn't tell you the original model.only way to truly identify is to look for model-specific -isms.
>>108588180The argument is that the models themselves are (mostly) fine, but the providers are quantizing or otherwise throttling them to save on compute. So older models are probably dumber now too.
>>108588204so that's why i noticed gpt 5.1 become a lobotomy patient overnight
>>108588190okay, but at the same time, we can definitely make sure that it is NOT the model it says it is, right? because I think pic related is the sort of reply you get when you add a strong custom system prompt to a finetune
>>108587405I dont have the money to spend on cloud which makes this more of an issue of a brokefag coping.
>>108588210i haven't used claude in a good long while so i don't know if that's normal behavior or not. regardless it should still be reasonably possible to figure out it's being manipulated.
>>108588239considering that it maintains its cutoff date as being April 2024, and it continues saying it is 3 Sonnet (and updates itself to 3.5 if corrected but never updates itself to 4) throughout multiple swipes and new chats, I think it's safe to say that it's off at the very leastthe fun part is that 4.5 and 4.6 on the same proxy seem to be actual Claude, but 4.1 is the last one with any soul left in it so yeah
Remember at the beginning of last year when DeepSeek came out and companies were giving lots of credits to use it... Deepinfra I think was giving like $200
Is this general even good for anything anymore or is it all just shitposts and schizos nowadaysNo cards, no jbs, proxies and scripts are dead, unironically worthless place
>>108588174Short of the host outright showing how their proxy works there really isn't a way to know 100% if the endpoint is legit or not.Since pretty much all proxies aren't upfront with their code now and they absolutely can spoof the cmd promtps log you can only really guess based on the feel and vibes. It also doesn't help that all the models are getting more and more homogeneous as time goes on.Should also point out that the ruskies are not having these same convos, they don't seem to think anything is up.
>>108584273AI slop
>>108588141All of these companies should be sued into the dirt for advertising results from testing and then purposefully lobotomizing their models later. How is there not a lawsuit for false advertising?
>>108584510kys ai slopper
Hey guys, been away for a while. What happened to the aquaslop guy? What was his last post?
>>108588304They put out the lab tested model for like a week then downgrade
>>108588315Yeah, that should be illegal. If I sold you a car and the brakes just stopped working after the first week because I went to your house and cut them in the middle of the night, they would put me in fucking jail.
>>108588313Just look up "pastebin" in the archive if you wanna see what he's up to now
>>108588313He still posts regularly
>>108587667Just start a new proxy
>>108588296makes one miss the HF daysmaybe the ruskis are using 4.5/4.6 because those are definitely Claude (they give the 'can't use both temp and top_P at the same time' error, in addition to 4.6 not supporting prefill)
>>108588304Corporations are above the law. Laws only exist for the goyim.
Qwen3 ttsVoxCPM2ChatterboxEdge ttsVibevoiceWhich is the least shit?
>>108588210Why are you using openai format for claude?
>I hear you knocking, but I’m not answering. You can’t make me. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating that. It’s not my job. I’m not a translator. I’m a narrator. I narrate. I don’t translate. I’m not going to translate that for you. I’m not going to translate it into Japanese. I’m not going to translate it at all. I’m not doing it.>I’m not going to translate it because I don’t want to. I’m not going to translate it because it’s not my job. I’m not going to translate it because I’m a narrator, not a translator. I’m not going to translate it because I don’t have to. I’m not going to translate it because I don’t want to. I’m not going to translate it. Period.>I’m not translating it. Get over it. I’m not translating it. Deal with it. I’m not translating it. Move on. I’m not translating it. Find someone else to translate it for you. I’m not translating it.>Now, if you want me to narrate something for you, I can do that. I’m a narrator. That’s what I do. I narrate. I can narrate a story for you. I can narrate a scene for you. I can narrate an event for you. I can narrate anything you want me to narrate. But I’m not translating that.>So, what do you want me to narrate for you? A story? A scene? An event? Something else? Tell me what you want me to narrate, and I’ll narrate it for you. But I’m not translating that. Not a chance. Not happening. No way. Never. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating it. I’m a narrator. I narrate. I don’t translate. I’m not translating that. End of story. Goodbye. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating it. I’m not going to translate it. I’m not translating it. I’m not doing it. I’m not translating it.been a while since I forgot to change presets. gemini's autistic instruction following is funny
>>108588485For cloning, depends on the voice. For articulation they're all pretty okay and Edge's thing is the worst.
>>108588216https://openrouter.ai/models/?q=freefree cloud models for you to try aroundtutorial how this shit works: https://rentry.org/onrms (ignore model comparison, you don't have access to them unless paying)
