I have become a GNOME.
>>108585743I'm happy for you, stay in your wood please
>>108585743>I have become a IBM tranny slaveWeird flex.
>>108585743gnome sucks
>>108585743
>>108585743I have never seen a lean coder using gnome.I still daily drive that garbage.
>>108585743you should reconsiderhttps://www.phoronix.com/review/nvidia-595-kde-gnome/5
>>108585743GNOME's a great desktop environment if you happen to be a GNOME developer. Otherwise...
I like the gnome workflow but I hate how slow they are to add new features or support things. Most of the Devs are insufferable and care more about image than producing good work.
>>108585871Why did he turn into Kung Lao?
>>108585743Gnome is the best DE out there, hands down, no question. Don't let (((they))) try to convince you of KuckDE it's trash and all the others are just lol
>>108585976It's not by accident that it's the DE of choice for RHEL/Fedora, SUSE enterprise, Ubuntu and Debian.
>>108585743it's the most solid Linux experience by far in both interface and stability and it's not even close
>>108585743It looks terrible. Anything but a simple interface. I'll continue using Windows.
>>108585743It's the most polished Linux desktop and the handful of stupid defaults can be switched off in one minute. You surely don't use the out-of-the-box defaults for every other operating system you use, do you?
>>108585871>I have become a USECASE
>>108585749Bro, if you're gonna stay with Jeetdows, at least go with W10 LTSC IoT.
I legitimately pity anyone who uses this garbage, lmao.
>>108585743I just build OpenBox on Slackware and edit the application menu for the apps I use, now that's a simple interface Xml is a lot like html only simpler
>>108586003>>108586115>>108585976it's the past, it's just there on those distros for legacy reasons. even fedora, owned by red hat (biggest contributor to gnome) has made kde no longer a spin and instead a first class citizen valve is pouring all of their resources on it, kde is the future and it's already the most used for home users in the present
>>108585976>Don't let (((they))) try to convince you of KuckDESaar... if India doesn't give big love to Israel, who will?
>>108585743Use case for becoming footfag?
>>108586003That's because it's not meant to be a DE for the average user, rather something to be used on a work computer in a corporate office because it's stable. KDE is for actual human beings, not suits and ties.
>>108587177KDE is even more jeeted than Windows. GNOME is the implicit last stand of White linux identity.
>>108587515I really don't understand this boards fascination with KDE. It's dogshit. It's bloated as fuck, ugly as shit buggy and clunky as hell. You said it's jeeted... This IS full of jeets, so maybe that's why it's shilled so hard.
>>108587534*This board is full of jeets
>>108585871
>>108587534I’m not a fan of KDE either, and as a frequent user of Windows, I’ve never understood the idea that it’s “Like Windows but better on linux”. Krashes really isn’t a meme, and it’s loaded with lots of very crappy K-prefixed crapware. GNOME is low key and just stays out of my way.
>>108585873>I have never seen a lean coder using gnome.What does that even mean?
>>108585743We won gnome sisters! It's time to transition and use gnome chuds
>>108587515>White linuxTrans coded.>>108585743Get your money up and get on MacOS, broke bitch.
>>108588097MacOS has no engineering software, it's worse than linux in this regard.
>>108587534but KDE is le epic linux gaming desktop, even our based god-emperor gaben is investing in making it better for vidyagames!
Look if I don't get working tray icons (no, not that fucking extension that doesn't allow left click actions) I have no use for this. Last time I tried GNOME (50 beta) I had a program running in the background, it wasn't in the "dash", it wasn't in the notification area, my only way to close it was through its task manager. It's absolutely ridiculous the hate they have for such a small fucking feature that every other single desktop has had "because it's not the right way to do things". But they haven't come up with a "right way" in fucking years.
I tried kde, I tried gnome.They both work fine, any normal person wouldn't have any problem with either of them.You can now resume your inspired fight.
>>108588276The system tray has done more damage than good in the long run. GNOME is correct, but doesnt have the pull to make such a based move.
Doesn't matter, the rat always wins. XFCE will BTFO every other desktop once it gets wayland soon
>>108585743>willingly put the feet DE on your hardwareeven on a laptop, you can just plug a mouse in and use KDE/Xfce
>>108588305Ultimately they failed to provide an alternative to it that works and a good amount of programs still make use of it to just completely remove it
>>108588314>soonDidn’t they just begin their complete rewrite? 2 more years.
>>108587566There's a lot I hate about windows but design isn't one of them. I would be perfectly content with Windows 11 if it weren't for all the unnecessary dogshit they force on it. KDE being like windows without the fuckery is why I like it.
>>108585743I HAVE BECOME GNOMEIGNORER OF GIRLS
>>108588530>I would be perfectly content with Windows 11 if it weren't for all the unnecessary dogshitamen brother but tell that to microslop. Give me a minimum possible windows install with no telemetry no advertising no ai no edge
>>108585743>go back to windows after a 5 years of gnome>get homesick after a month>reinstall clean fedora on full AMD system>first few minutes one of my 4k screens freezes>gnome crashes back to GDM due to the same SIGSEGV plaguing series 6000 AMD GPUs for years>remember why I left>nuke partitionSad really, I even got super exited to go back to a performant system, ZED launch was literally instantaneous when I clicked the icon compared to Windows' almost 3 seconds.But the stability is awful with my setup, and frankly my experience over almost 2 decades of random hardware.
>>108588268the tray should become a grouped icon for "hidden programs" in the dock, it extremely redundant with W11's implementation of right click actions on dock icons.
>>108585749>sir please no install linux gnome virus me fix window operate system send google gift card no redeem please bitch bastard
>>108588633It's very fucking simple.The GNOME dash icons should have every functionality that's exposed on tray icons right there. If you right click an icon it should bring the tray icon options as well. If you close an application that closes to the tray, it should still be in the dash, and you should be able to fully close it there. It just won't work like that.
>>108587177holy kope>has made kde no longer a spin and instead a first class citizenand who do you think approved that? its gnomies all the way to the top, seriously, look at the SIGs that approved it>valve is pouring all of their resources on itso much so they developed their own compositor and hide desktop mode as much as they can from the users>kde is the future and it's already the most used for home users in the presenthttps://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_upstream.svgeven with all the marketing and push towards Fedora from Nate, it's still below core os>the futuresystem76 decided to develop a DE from scratch instead of using anything KDE kek
>>108588276>>108588383background apps works and was made for this, it's in XDG
>>108585749
>>108588314bruh XFCE is good because it doesn’t concern itself with jeetland
Someday tray icons will be nothing more than a bad memory.
>>108588834Tray icons have more functions than an indication that something is running in the background
>>108587515>>108587534>>108587566>>108588152Lol absolute seethe. How does it feel knowing KDE is only growing in popularity and was even adopted by Valve for SteamOS because it actually has modern display features. xfeces and guhnome are relics that will only live in a office building or some transgenders thinkpad
>>108589329>was even adopted by Valve for SteamOS because it actually has modern display featuresThey still use X11 on the desktop session though? Fuck are you on about?Their focus there is on gamescope. They got HDR working there nearly 2 years before Plasma had any semblance of support.
>>108585743https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4
>>108589247x11 or wayland have nothing to do with how good XFCE is you jackass.
>>108589299And that's the problem. They have so many functions there are more than 2 standards already that all desktops have already replaced with other shit.>Steam's trayBackground apps + desktop file for the shortcuts that open the library, friends etc>Discord's trayDesktop notifications>Nextcloud's trayIt literally opens a whole window there, just leave it minimizedI just don't think having 2 docks at all times is good and wish I could disable the tray in plasma.
>>108588820cope, valve considered gnome but decided on kde when they saw how lacking gnome was. its not futureproof. now theyre going to be releasing the steam machine with even more emphasis on desktop mode, powered by kde. of course they developed gamescope. its purpose is to be a micro compositor thats especially good for handhelds. its a controlled environment for running games. that's no mark against kdesystem76 and cosmic are irrelevant, literally noone cares.
>>108585743 gnome3 was better with dock on left and spaces vertical
>>108591547You know you can just move it, right?
as a product gnome is genuinely not bad
>>108591864no that's not part of the gnome design
>>108591965The visible dock isn't part of the default to start with. Maybe you don't need it?
>>108592873I don't need gnome at all
>>108588729lost
>>108592936This is true, but GNOME users aren't ready for this yet. The concept of nothingness can only be attained through enlightened use of daily GNOME.
>>108585743>They won>GNOMEIncompatible concepts.
for everyone except people who don't like CSDs
>>108594432ha ha
>>108585743Why is their logo a foot instead of an actual gnome
>>108595291Excellent question. A full gnome would imply a fully functional desktop environment. The footprint of a gnome is fitting, it alludes to the "has-been" status of gnome.
>>108595358thank you chatgpt
>>108585743which laptop is that? looks nice.
GNOME
>>108597321i've seen much worse
>>108597321>>108597406find waldo
>>108585743Wtf is with laptops getting so thin? It's like those monstrous celebrities taking ozempic and thinking they look good. Modern faggotry.
>>108597428it looks a lot like a mac, but thinner. i'm curious what laptop that actually is.
>>108597448looks like the macbook air but m1 because no notch which came with m2 I believe
>>108597448>>108597526another shot
>>108587515Brutal, imagine being this guy and fixing LLM code for 250 people daily.
>>108599589that's the manager.
>>108597321There's something odd in that picture.
>>108597321>no ebussyruined
>>108600068actually hold on, isn't that /ourbussy/?
>>108597321>Say "use case"!
>>108585743Wow, new Gnome looks horrible, almost as bad as Unity. I'm really tired of every UI becoming Mac OS. I don't like using Mac OS. Why the fuck is every UI trying to be Mac OS?
>>108600074That's him. Elon Musk turned up too, orange shirt near the center. >>108600110GNOME is the future of computing. Your desktop has become... a PHONE
>>108587534>Fresh install of GNOME>Open Steam>No tray iconNo
>>108600229Say it with me: "You don't need that"
>>108587177https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/44/final/buglistKDE has been causing issues and delays with almost every new Fedora release since it became an official edition, now 44 which was supposed to release tomorrow will probably release near the end of the month. It's just too big and has too many moving parts. Widespread adoption isn't changing this it just means more overworked maintainers have to put up with its quirks, nothing actually changes with the project in response to how bloated it is.KDE is great but they need to sit down and figure out how to streamline things. Distros like Fedora have special rules and exceptions for how they package KDE because it needs to updoot constantly. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Update_policyThis is why you'll see on /g/ that KDE's biggest supports also use Arch and why OpenSUSSY is one of the only distros that ships KDE as default, when you're spinning that many plates rolling release is the only sane option. GNOME lacks features and is too conservative but one of the big reasons for this is because they actually care enough to say, "No we don't have the manpower so we're not maintaining that feature, if you want it join us and maintain it yourself." Having a billion features comes at a cost.
>>108600110GNOME is nothing like a Mac OS. Mac OS has a functional taskbar with tray icons desktop icons, widgets, etc...also has a real dock. GNOME has none of that without extensions.
>>108600513use case for functional taskbars?
>>108597321Now let's see one from KDE.
>>108601861>>108587515
>>108600110John Carmack, 1999:>The gnome user environment in Red Hat 6.0 is finally at a level that I consider it a valid alternative to commercial desktop environments. Overall, its still not as smooth, consistant, or complete as windows or the mac, but is does have its strong points, and things seem to be progressing quite rapidly.This is the exact UI he was talking about.
>>108585743I've been indictrinated with windows ui design since I was a wee lad and I can't stand the macOS-like design of Gnome so I'm sticking with KDE which feels natural and intuitive to use for me.
>>108587513>KDE is for actual human beings, not suits and ties.
>>108597321Imagine the smell
Ebassed knows what's good for ya.
>>108600074HIM <3
>>108587515>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR KDE WORLD COMMUNITY BENCHOD ALWAYS HAD INDIANS SUPERPOOPER 2030*krashes*
>>108606130What attracts them to KDE? Why isn't KDE spending their money recruiting the brightest minds from top western Universities? Why is it always a "save the thirdies" ordeal. There's always a few smiling white cucks in these photos, talk about a saviour complex.
>>108597321Is the blind guy the UI designer?
>>108606221Kek
>>108587515>>108606130>>108606186This is just distasteful. Imagine hating on young FOSS enthusiasts that are congregating in their own countries just because they're from the one specific country 4chan has a hate boner over. People like you are why the Linux space is so shitty, unironically kill yourselves.
>>108607590Literally no hate expressed in any of those posts, are you ok?
>>108600229You don't need that and if you think you do there's an extension for it. If you don't like it install DWM then show me the tray icon it gives you
i hate gnome. it looks like a toy. i still use it because it sort of works.
>>108607777i haute the tablet ui and adwta crap but it works.
>>108606008he seems happy, I guess he found his life's use-case <3
>>108609344What makes you think happiness is a metric?
>>108606221fuck, beat me to it kek
>>108606221LMAO
The reason why people hate GNOME is because the developers take forever to add nice QOL features that are already present on KDE. There's a certain amount of bureaucratic friction in the GNOME development cycle that people hate, but it tends to produce much better results than just letting people add whatever they like, which is how KDE does it.GNOME is great for desktop use, it's stable, the included applications are integrated well into the rest of the desktop, and Adwaita is a much better design than Breeze. If you don't like something about GNOME you can download or make your own extension.Most people end up on GNOME once they grow up and stop ricing.
>>108600147> GNOME is the future of computing. Your desktop has become... a PHONEHOW DO WE FIGHT THIS ANONS?> every website has a phone ui now> every program has a phone ui now (and are called apps)> every GUI interface just imitates phones nowsure there’s a solution to this besides going back to the CLI right??
