[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/g/ - Technology

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.
  • You may highlight syntax and preserve whitespace by using [code] tags.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Brief downtime for maintenance later!

[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 61N4933I3NL.jpg (92 KB, 800x480)
92 KB
92 KB JPG
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice on bare metal and run your previous OS in a Virtual Machine.
2) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources: Please spend at least a minute to check a web search engine with your question.
Many free software projects have active mailing lists.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ %command% -h/--help
$ help %builtin/keyword%

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Try a random distro:
https://distrosea.com
https://distro.moe

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org
https://wiki.debian.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Babbies_First_Linux
>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://suckless.org/rocks/
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse
https://cheat.sh/
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/
https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit
https://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

GNU/Linux Games:
>>>/vg/lgg

Previous thread:108576714
>>
>>108592191
i fucking love linux. i just can't stop using it, i love it so god damn much.

also anyone know of a good alternative to git/github for software distribution?

i actually don't like git, no particular reason it just doesn't jive with me especially github. i was thinking about using torrents or hosting an eepsite but idk of any good trackers and i2p is a bit of a gatekeep. ive been hoarding tons of scripts over the years and i think others would find them useful too but have put off sharing for quite a while due to uncertainty of distribution method.
>>
Hey anons, been using Windows all my life and ocassionally dual booted linux (Debian and Arch), I really wanna make a full switch to Linux and as I don't have that much experience with it (but I do know my way around) I'm looking for a distro that fullfill my needs. Your basic business tools for handling text, spreadsheets, I code mostly on python and fullstack development and I also game, legal and not-so legal copies.
Would Arch fit this description or should I go with a different distro?
>>
>>108592275
my general advice to give is install mint for general "just works" use, arch is for if you want a hobby. you'll figure out what you do and don't like about it in about a week, come back then.
>>
>>108592275
just use debian. arch trannies are insufferable.
>>
>>108592275
>>108592298
forgot to say but distro actually doesn't matter, generally speaking you pick one then change things around until its how you like. linux is free, both free as in beer and free as in freedom. go nuts. even if you break something odds are it can be fixed.
>>
>>108592267
Github is superfluous but Git is a de facto standard. It's extremely hard to avoid. Jujutsu can make it easier but if you insist on avoiding it entirely for personal use, try Mercurial.
>>108592275
>Would Arch fit this description or should I go with a different distro?
Haven't you already used Arch before? If you're comfortable with it then why not?
>>
>>108592356
ah, i actually don't need version control i'm more interested in just having a repo other people can download from. most code i find online is just in the form of a git repo so git is essentially the distribution method too. i don't work with other people directly and the way i write code ends up leaving really distinct stable versions that i can just zip into a release or something. i put way too much effort into automated self tests so its pretty hard for a new bug introduced to go uncaught.
>>
>>108592275
use wherever you comfy with, in another words: install FEDORA.
>>
>>108592267
>i actually don't like git,
heathen
>>
we will get full jxl support on firefox in july, noice
>>
>>108592402
and git is still the best way to distribute it.
>>
>>108592469
you're absolutely right, but i just don't like it.

i just want a imple, highly accesible, place to share software i write. preferably omething that i don't have to host myself or can distribute the hosting between a lot of people like a torrent.

i'd say the ideal scenario would be like a torrent tracker site that allows people to just upload their own code via bittorrent. the few anime style games ive made i put up on nyaa, but i'm not a game dev nor artist lol.
>>
>>108592524
it is so absolutely outstandish to think bit torrent is even remotely as good for distributing software as git is. Sorry, nope, absolutely nope. No one is going to torrent a few shellscripts.
>>
bread on penguins fags - tranny/jew check???
>>
>>108592524
>you're absolutely right
holy slop
>>
Any good tiling WMs for xfce that's similar to Windows? The snap-to-window feature with xfwm4 is super cumbersome.
>>
When you sudo get update does that include drivers or do I have to do something else to update those drivers?
>>
why is linux so gay?
man mount
sudo touch boys
>>
>>108592648
It's gay mainly because you use it, not because its inherently gay
>>
>>108592555
i actually have around 400 of them if you group them by function instead of by file count. around 30 GB altogether not including the databases many need to function. its more than just a few shell scripts, and while they do work fine standalone the intended function is for use as one monolithic system. most of the code is python and c but there's also some java and c++. shell (bash) scripts are used to interface them together.

they're organized in nested folders by category, for instance the steganography folder contains 3 folders for autodetection, autocracking, and automatic sort/storing. each one of those has several subfolders with at least 3 layers deep for each top level folder. if things end up going past 6 i usually restructure them for instance my steganography scripts used to be part of my image processing folder which used to be part of my multimedia folder.

side note steganography is quite the rabbit hole, do recommend going in when you have at least a month of free time. things like steghide are a good start but barely even scratch the surface.

>>108592604
yeah i fucking hate how ai garbage uses the same language as me so often because everyone including myself reads my shit and assumes a bot wrote it.

>>108592644
depends on your setup and the driver. ive seen some systems install kernel updates through apt so i wouldn't be surprised if yours does.

>>108592648
because the users are predominantly gay or twinks. insert programming socks meme i seem to have lost.
>>
>>108592648
you can even sudo touch grass
>>
File: file.png (20 KB, 276x203)
20 KB
20 KB PNG
>>108592648
linux was made by this guy
>>
>>108592267
Publish a tarball + static web page of the repo with something like stagit:
https://github.com/oxalorg/stagit
>>
>sshfs is being maintained again
o thank the lawd
>>
>>108592759
is it slower than smb?
>>
>>108592759
Since when did it need maintaining? Literally never had a single problem with it.
>>
>>108592766
Yes, but the convenience trade-off of not having to spin-up a server for it (every system has OpenSSH these days, even Windows) is worth it.

Use Ksmbd or Nfs if you need performance. If you're just using it for say remote media playback in Mpv or whatever, then it's fine.
>>
>>108592766
smb is a bit faster but only unencrypted iirc
>>108592767
i like sshfs because it's reasonably secure but also literally just werks. it doesn't need more features but i don't quite trust it enough to use it over the internet without security patches
>>
>>108592821
Unless FUSE breaks something it's really only SSH that needs security patches though because that's the transport it uses and OpenSSH is very well maintained.

Don't get me wrong though, performance improvements are always welcome. It's good enough but it could always be better.
>>
File: 1750063682059909.png (190 KB, 431x328)
190 KB
190 KB PNG
Damn, linux users look like THAT?!
>>
>>108592191
not trying to troll or anything. I heard Rust utils are shipping with the new stable Linux, is it a good idea to get it? Because it seems the Rust rewrite is not going that great.
>>
>>108592555

dear, ipv4 is running out of addresses question
>>
File: smug terry davis.gif (1.31 MB, 640x480)
1.31 MB
1.31 MB GIF
>>108592899
linux no, arch/nix fags.
>>
>>108592910
>new stable Linux,
the fuck is new stable linux? are you retarded and or a transgender?
>>
>>108592910
Ubuntu is doing this because Canonical is the Microsoft of FOSS and is trying to EEE the GNU/Linux ecosystem. There's no real reason to opt into using them, the coreutils just werk.
>>
>>108592910
it's been in kernel since 6.1
current 6.18
>>
File: 1764186492060000.mp4 (1.69 MB, 560x560)
1.69 MB
1.69 MB MP4
>>108592191
After a year of distro hopping, I figured out that there's no ideal (no corposhit + just werks) GNU/Linux distro. I'd rather have a just werks, and use it to make my own integrated circuits and other devices with EDA and CAD.

The only just werks distro with first-class KDE Plasma support, and no Snap or Flatpak is Debian, right?
>>
>>108592945
on behalf of all nix users we are not trannies. i bench 325 and use nixos.
arch users are actually trannies though
>>
>>108592899
Would
>>
>>108592899
uoooohhhhhh tranny sexo
>>
>>108592985
Arch.
>>
File: arch kde.png (838 KB, 1080x1246)
838 KB
838 KB PNG
>>108592985
Arch, unironically
t. plasma user for 5+ years
>>
>>108592985
>debian
>first class KDE
no
arch or fedora
>>
>>108593028
>>108593047
Ok, thanks. I'll use Debian.
https://pkgs.org/search/?q=solvespace
https://pkgs.org/search/?q=z88
>>
File: 1725789475765268.png (1.01 MB, 3840x2016)
1.01 MB
1.01 MB PNG
>>108593047
Basado
>>
>>108593073
says the guy who has this shit >>108592985 saved on his computer.
>>
>>108592961
sorry, I meant Ubuntu, not Linux
>>108592981
so why are they hyping it up now? Is it in kernel but optional?
>>
>>108593047
Basado.
Arch is easily the best experience you can get on KDE.
>>
On gentoo, is it possible to use several versions of java at once?
eselect java-vm
sets one single global version. But for example I want to play minecraft with Java 8 while having Java 25 available for other shit
>>
>>108593360
You can probably just reference the full path to wherever the Java binary actually is.
>>
>>108592986
ill believe you
>>
I am installing Gentoo for the first time on my PC that I use for testing. Did I make a good move? I can't do Arch, it's not enough, and already I feel like it's never enough.
>>
>>108592985
>>108593073
If you want krashDE that bad just go with Fedora.
>>
>>108593360
if you're using java to run a java or jar file directly i.e. java "example.java" you could probably add a abstraction to your bashrc (or equivalent) that specifically is the direct link to a different java version as >>108593371 said.

so something like:

function java8() {
(direct path to java 8 executable) $@
}

iirc minecraft has some bs launcher thing. microslop isn't going to let them open it up. i play luanti these days.
>>
>>108592191
cachy
or
arch

i know, this has been asked a billion times. but i am reinstalling arch after two years because i am to lazy to clean my system. considering moving to cachyos because of the hype but not sure because in the past, i was burned by arch derivatives. they come and go while arch sits there like a boulder. worried about long term support. along with cachy specifics bugs and quirks.
>>
>>108593522
Cachy is a lot closer to Arch than derivatives like Manjaro.

Sometimes their performance kernel can break things but you can install the stock Arch kernel or LTS kernel, etc, alongside it if you're worried about that or just want something to fallback on.
>>
>>108592899

may i interrupt you for a moment have you yet heard of avif imageformat
>>
>>108593522
Cachy does have bugs and quirks that are specific to it, because it's not at all like Arch. It's an opinionated system that's set up for you, and it uses far newer packages than Arch does. Manjaro is a disaster though, that one is partial update Arch. CachyOS is, at the very least, not partial updates.
>>
>>108592191
i'm writing a script that uses transmission cli, is there a builtin way to make it blocking?
as in, i want it to finish downloading and hit the ratio target before continuing the script.

for my application i could make a external check or use something like tails to see if its done but i'd really rather have transmission just do that on its own.

reading the docs rn, i don't see any indication of such a functionality so far.
>>
>>108593404
Good move
>>
>>108593671
it's in the settings.json
>script_torrent_done_seeding_filename: String (default = "") Path to script.
>>
I'm sure it's been said before but I wonder whether KDE is shooting themselves in the foot having the animations on by default. I switched over from XFCE and it felt so much less responsive. I know KDE is a little fatter but it's mostly the animations.
>>
>>108593761
i did the opposite move and couldn't be happier with the less bloated, inconsistent and faster system.
>>
>>108593761
Animations are nice if your GPU isn't a potato. You can always turn them off if it can't handle them. There's a setting that basically bypasses the animations completely and makes everything instant.
>>
>>108593797
I agree. I had just been using XFCE for so long (because it is that good).
Maybe I could switch to LXQt without too much trouble.
>>
>>108593704
this isn't what i want, i checked if it did it anyways as a side effect just in case but seems not.

i dont want it to run a script when its done, its being called from a script and i want it to prevent the script from continuing until after its done.

as things sit instead of downloading the files, doing what it needs to do with them, then moving to download the next set of files, its just opening up hundreds of transmission-cli instances and giving me errors on other parts of the scripts because, you know, the files it was expecting weren't there.

for the moment i have it just checking to see if the correct number of files are there and none have the .part extension before moving on but i'd really like for transmission-cli to just run in the foreground preventing any further input. you know, like the description implies is should behave.
>>
>>108593833
>There's a setting that basically bypasses the animations completely and makes everything instant.
I did, but animations objectively take up time as well. It looks weird having the animations on really fast, so off is the most responsive setting.
>>
>>108593865
A lot of people find it jarring for things to just snap in instantly. It can look stiff and cause nausea in some people, etc.
>>
>>108593877
Setting it to the slowest speed is really funny.
>what can I get youuuu?
>Firefox
>okaaaay
>>
>>108593860
you're doing it wrong. that's all there is to it. why don't you give a long 3 paragraph explanation of what you want to a llm and it will tell you how youre going about it wrong.
>>
>>108593835
i never got to understand why rat users are so passionate about that thing before, but now i do, its really amazing, very modular.
>>
>>108592985
>first-class KDE Plasma support
Fedora
> and no Snap or Flatpak
You don't have to use those on Fedora.
>>
>>108594057
Exactly, only criticism I have of ratchan is that she looks very ugly default
>>
>>108594138
NTA but I have pretty much the same attitude, and Flatpak is nowhere near as bad as Snap.
It's kind of wild the amount of fumbling that took place with Ubuntu, I would have recommended them without blinking a decade ago. Mint unfucks most of it but still.
>>
>>108593113
ryo has been fedora property for some time now, get over it man.
>>
>>108594165
yes, i think the reason i didn't adopt it sooner was the ugliness of its default. another negative point i can think of is that it's very mouse centric (of course it is, haha), but that can be easily overcome/mediate by setting up shortcuts everywhere. i regret not using it sooner, its simplicity makes me happy.
>>
>>108593833
What's a potato in this context? 2000s Intel GMA?
>>108592821
>sshfs
>i don't quite trust it enough to use it over the internet without security patches
Why? Extra info on patches?
>>108592722
>ive seen some systems install kernel updates through apt
Never seen them do anything other than that. What other mechanisms are there?
>>
>>108592648
because being a fag is trendy now. Get with the times.

>>108592632
>Any good tiling WMs for xfce that's similar to Windows?
...

>>108592275
I mean you are telling us that you used arch already so yeah if you didn't had a stroke with it then just dive in. It will do anything you throw at it as long as you know how to not make it spontaneously combust.
>>
>>108592821
>smb is a bit faster but only unencrypted iirc
It's faster because it's a real network filesystem with kernel acceleration instead of FUSE like sshfs. Decrypting at wire speed is nothing for most CPUs.
>>
INSTALL Dragora & Hyperbola
>>
>>108593761
set it low or turn it off if you like opening stuff instantly, KDE also have some useless background services on by default iirc, trimming them down get me to about 1.8gb ram usage on idle
>>
>>108594199
hmm nyo
>>
>>108592191
>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
The fact you have to make emphasis on this shows the problem with Linux. I've never seen this toxicity in any other community.

I don't care about the 1000 perks and quirks of Linux, the community is the most asinine community ever and I don't want to have anything to do with it, and there are thousands of people that think like me too.
>>
>>108596165
It's more being a thread on 4chan than representative of the whole community but I'm not going to bother arguing with someone desperate to retain market share.
>>
>>108593539
it is alright for animations (only because gif is so bad and old) but it takes forever to encode, so kinda of impractical. i would never use that as a sole image format.
>>
>>108593761
I had the exact same experience. Turning animations off made everything feel good again. I don't get the point of deliberately waiting for stuff to happen.
>>
Dolphin takes way too long to search for files even though I have baloo indexing turned on, and searching for said file using the start menu works perfectly. Anyone know of a fix? It's like dolphin alone isn't using baloo even though it has access to that data.
>>
>>108593761
Animations, shadows and opacity are there by default because 95%+ of people don't use potato computers which can't handle them. But it's true that the defaults should be different based on your hardware. However, this is the responsibility of the distribution, not the desktop environment. It's the distro that is providing you with it's own default config files.
>>
>>108596512
This is beside the point he was making, animations feel like dogshit regardless of PC specs because they add a sluggish delay to everything. You can't have an animation without slowing your desktop down because you need a bunch of frames to display the animation while you only need 1 frame to do stuff like maximize a window if you don't use animations.
>>
>>108596491
does it still corrupt files?
i remember the hell that i was when using dolphin, it used to corrupt my files on higher counts and wtf was that buggy, unreliable and hard coded notification on my task bar? it krashed all the time, ridiculous.
>>
>>108596532
>they add a sluggish delay to everything
But people LOVE that sluggish delay.
>>
>>108596491
>>108596535
Found a fix for my situation, I was searching for contents not filenames (and I've turned content indexing off).
As for whether it corrupts files, I have no idea. I've configured it a bit to limit what places it searches and how it indexes them and it's been working well so far.
>>
File: 1771943843474540.png (839 KB, 1280x692)
839 KB
839 KB PNG
>Buy a new monitor
>Discover DSC is sorta kinda broken on the nvidia driver
All of my issues with Linux stem back to this one company, it's impressive
>>
How hacky is Devuan? Is it viable as a daily driver?
>>
File: cyberdeck.jpg (42 KB, 736x491)
42 KB
42 KB JPG
Installing Arch - does it matter what bootloader I choose? Should I use GRUB, or is there something even simpler to configure I can use?
>>
>>108596719
I typically use the systemd one because it's fairly minimal, grub is good if you wanna customize shit more.
>>
>>108596698
expect half assed work across the board, specially if you dont pick sysv.
>>
>>108596736
Debian it is I guess
>>
>>108596719
It doesn't really matter. Most either go with GRUB or systemd-boot.
>>
>>108596719
grub is the standard bootloader used by almost everyone
>>
>>108596719
it doesn't (usually) matter. I would just choose GRUB and forget about it.
>>
>>108596743
always has been. careful there tho, for a first experience debian could be potentially a pain, avoid if you want it with kde.
>>
File: CONFIG_EFI_STUB.png (29 KB, 554x454)
29 KB
29 KB PNG
>>108596719
Absolute simplest is to boot EFI stubs. Although that's not relevant to Arch or any distro in general and requires neckbearding. And it's not very convenient as you want a backup kernel and that backup has to exist as a separate EFI boot entry.
But just saying.
>>
>>108596767
not anymore. sysemd-boot is now king. grub is headed to the graveyard.
>>108596922
oh yeah, that totally looks like the simplest option. thanks.
>>
File: Orvieto-municipio.jpg (1.29 MB, 3264x2448)
1.29 MB
1.29 MB JPG
grub is comfy and just werks.
>>
>>108596491
>baloo indexing
Sounds like those malware browser add-ons of the past. Why do you need this nonsense..
>>
>>108596973
It's a part of kde, and works ok sometimes. It's an area that needs improvement though.
>>
>>108596951
>sysemd-boot is now king
It's hardly the "king" if it's still not used by the majority of users. Maybe it will be more widely used in 5 years.
>>
>>108596967
What genders are those?
>>
>>108597002
grub has been handed off to maintenance mode where it will die. distros are already stripping features from grub and pushing systemd-boot. grubs days are over.
>>
>>108597001
I would disable all that nonsense. Haven't tried kde in a while but last time I did it, I did not like it at all. It's way too baroque for what it is supposed to be.
>>
>>108597040
I find it useful. But I do get what you mean with kde being "too baroque", but I prefer that over what's going on with gnome.
>>
>>108597040
the final nail on kde's coffin for me was the burger menu crap, i knew it was over from there.
>>
>>108597046
Yeah, this is why I settled up with a plain window manager and just using rofi if I need a quick launcher.
This has its usage issues too.
>>
Was gonna install sway as my WM, but found out that it doesn't support bitmap fonts? What's a good lightweight tiling WM that allows bitmap fonts
>>
>>108597363
If the bitmap font you want has a .otb version then it should work fine. You could also use the tool fonttosfnt to convert .pcf or .bdf bitmap fonts into .otb.
>>
>>108597363
sorry anon, bitmap fonts are so outdated. be a good wayland user and find something newer.
>>
>>108592644
Drivers are usually either part of the kernel package or from one of the firmware packages
>>
>>108592767
Its been half-abandoned for a few years now the dev asked for new maintainers awhile ago.
>>
>>108597039
>grub has been handed off to maintenance mode
Because there's nothing left to add. It already supports several disk formats it probably shouldn't.
>distros are already pushing systemd-boot
Sure there are but I can't name any. Fedora and Ubuntu barely support it.
>>
File: channels4_profile.jpg (27 KB, 176x176)
27 KB
27 KB JPG
>>108592191
Get grifters out of FOSS. Youtube is at the end of life, but there are many still trying to make a living off of a trashy means learned through books and reddit threads. These people should be called out.
>>
>>108596951
Grub is the only bootloader that can unlock luks2 formatted partitions and lets you have no kernels or any files aside from the grub efi binary itself unencrypted on the ESP while everything else can be encrypted including /boot
>>
>>108596719
Do you actually want or need to configure your bootloader? If not, then any works. Grub is what most distros use.
>>108597754
You could just embed an initramfs in the kernel EFISTUB and do the same thing without Grub and with better maintained cryptsetup.
>>
>>108597798
>You could just embed an initramfs in the kernel EFISTUB and do the same thing without Grub and with better maintained cryptsetup.
You cant embed btrfs snapshots in the kernel efistub on the ESP.
>>
>>108597754
you can also store everything on a ZFS root pool with native encryption, snapshots, automatic boot env detection (no EFI entries), the ESP on a USB key
>>
Is there anything like FanControl (https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases) for Linux?
I know I can just let the motherboard do it, but I find the mother board is way too cautious in its fan control, and also doesn't let me average temps for the CPU and GPU to set the case fan speeds, for example.
>>
>>108597892
either use hardware controls or go completely fanless. trying to wrangle the bios/os into letting you control fans is a waste of time.
>>
>>108597906
>use hardware controls
What do you mean by that?
>go completely fanless
Not an option for me. Would certainly be nice for those who are able to do that.
>trying to wrangle the bios/os into letting you control fans is a waste of time
Looks like lm-sensors' fancontrol, and also CoolerControl, can do it, so I don't think that's the issue. I'm just looking for a neat way to make more calculations based on the sensor readings before I set the fan speeds. Not sure which programs offer that, if any.
>>
>>108597892
Is this something like LACT or CoolerControl?
https://flathub.org/en/apps/io.github.ilya_zlobintsev.LACT
https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol
>>
>>108597886
ZFS native encryption isn't as good as LUKS. Even FreeBSD uses their own encryption over ZFS native encryption with their installer.
ZFS also has issues dealing with linux swapfiles
>>
>>108597940
fair enough. i don't use encryption or swapfiles so i'll take your word on that.
>>
>>108597926
>I'm just looking for a neat way to make more calculations based on the sensor readings
bash. Unfortunately nobody writes stuff like FanControl for Linux because anyone who starts looking sees they can do everything they want with a <300 line script and loses interest.
>>
>>108597839
You don't need to. The initramfs can mount the root of the drive and display some fancy menu to pick which snapshot if you really wanted something like that.
>>
>>108597976
>nobody writes stuff like FanControl for Linux
>meanwhile >>108597937
>>
>>108597937
CoolerControl looks like what I am after. I saw it and assumed it was GUI only, but now I see their docs have a section for headless servers (my use case) so that's good. Thanks.
>>108597976
>bash
It did cross my mind, but I thought I would see if anyone had done it better so I don't reinvent the wheel for the dozenth time.
>>
>>108598005
Those are halfass and only properly support a handful of devices. Every time I start fucking with GUI fan control on Linux I always end up back at pcp and scripts.
>>
>>108598025
>Those are halfass
How do you mean?
>>
Did anyone else notice that Luke Smith is about to stream? I predict the usual pseudery.
>>
how long do (You) expect CachyOS to stick around?
>>
>>108598150
Just checked and it looks like Void is still kicking. I expect it can keep on in some state like many of these niche distros do.
>>
>>108598150
Even if chachy devs were to abandon the project, I'm pretty sure many of their contributions would keep being forked. Since it's basically Arch + a few scripts I'm sure there'd be either another distro replacing it or a meta-package to turn your arch install into a cachy-like.
>>
>>108598150
Unless something causes the project to collapse then it'll probably be around for years. Whether it'll stay this popular is less likely.
>>
>>108598150
I use Cachy mainly because of the package optimization and I suspect that the same applies for at least 80% of its userbase. If Arch added them upstream I would probably switch back.
But then again EndeavourOS is literally just some dotfiles and an installer and it's still fairly popular so Cachy will probably stay popular even if package optimizations are upstreamed.
>>
>>108598150
It's Arch with a tweaked kernel focused on desktop snappiness. You can use the CachyOS version of the kernel on a normal Arch install as well, so it's not like something is truly lost if CachyOS disappeared one day.
>>
>>108598150
Seems like it might be decently solid. As opposed to something like bazzite which I expect to flatline within the next few years.
>>
>>108598278
I mean you'd lose that kernel.
>>
>>108598285
It's not like the tweaks they make to it are top secret or something.
>>
>>108598150
i give two more weeks for this flavour of month trash
>>
>>108598470
This is what people said about Linux Mint 15 years ago.
>>
File: 1238577130153.png (274 KB, 500x369)
274 KB
274 KB PNG
Almost time for Fedora44.
>>
>>108598642
have fun uploading your linux ID and date of birth!
>>
>>108598654
Source for this being added in 44?
>>
>>108598070
Go use FanControl and come back.
>>
File: luke.png (657 KB, 1322x797)
657 KB
657 KB PNG
>>108598088
We're so fucking back.
>>
>>108598666
Turns out Lunduke viewers are always wrong.
>>
>>108598666
the source is your fingerprints from the keyboard will be used as verification satan
>>
>>108598694
we? you're the only one with a crush on this dude.
>>
> man marriage
No manual entry for marriage
> info marriage
info: No menu item 'marriage' in node '(dir)Top'
> apropos marriage
marriage: nothing appropriate.
> man wife
No manual entry for wife
> info wife
-- Macro: int WIFEXITED (int STATUS)
Preliminary: | MT-Safe | AS-Safe | AC-Safe | *Note POSIX Safety
Concepts::.
This macro returns a nonzero value if the child process terminated
> apropos wife
wife: nothing appropriate.
>>
is it preferable to do snapshots in the OS layer i.e. with atomic updates or at the filesystem layer?
has anyone really even gamed this out properly?
>>
>>108598694
When was the last time he ever made an interesting linux related video?
>>
>>108599406
there is nothing to "game" here. atomic/transactional updates eliminate the need of system snapshots and neither of the two is a replacement for remote backups.
>>
>>108599430
Why would a religious Youtuber make Linux videos?
>>
>>108598685
The Windows one or the lm-sensors one? I've already used the Windows FanControl. Works well. I haven't used CoolerControl obviously, which is why I'm asking what you think is wrong with it.
>>
>>108599117
>WIFEXITED
>This macro returns a nonzero value if the child process terminated
SHE TOOK THE FUCKING KIDS MAN
>>
>>108599531
Try it and find out.
>>
>>108599406
backup to external storage > filesystem snapshots > atomic updates
Atomic updates only protect OS files, and not against all cause failure. Plus large user facing maintenance burden. Snapshots have high performance overhead but basically work unless you have bad hardware or a bad kernel that eats the filesystem.
>>
>>108599561
OK, I will. What a weird conversation.
>>
my panel constantly crashes on linux fedora, I kept updating for two weeks, deleted the panel and went back to the default one, but it keeps crashing... any ideas?
>>
>>108599522
Do religious youtubers use arch with dwm on their librebooted thinkpad?
>>
I've recently had two instances of my Fedora KDE screen "resetting graphics" while playing Darktide on my PC.

What is causing this? How can I find the cause and fix it and prevent this from happening?
And most importantly. How do I know if it is a hardware problem?
>>
>>108599965
Probably just a driver fuckup. Check journalctl output for anything GPU related, try different drivers and Steamplay versions, or whatever you're using for wine. Check protondb for any notes about crashing.
>>
I removed every "cdn77.cachyos.org" from every mirrorlist imaginable in paru cause it was giving me "HTTP/2 stream 1 reset by server (error 0x1 PROTOCOL_ERROR)" in a lot of packages, yet paru still defaults to this crap. What mirrorlist does it use? How do I stop paru from using this crap?
>>
Which Distro is for me if
>aside from Firefox/Thunderbird, none of my applications need online
>no Steam installed, just pirate/emulate a lot of old/new games instead
>don't want to update constantly, only if there's the occasional security patch
>works with modern Nvidia laptop drivers
Last part is why I've been on 11 IoT LTSC for a year
>>
>>108598470
>flavour of month
But anon... this flavor is at least half a year old by now...
>>
>>108600493
Nobara.

It's based on Fedora, which is quite easy to run, isn't bleeding edge and has great user base(makes easier to fix something specific/asking help).

You can install Lutris/Heroic Games Launcher for pirated games, no need for steam.

You won't need to update it as often for being based on Fedora, unlike Cachy that is based on Arch and it will break if you don't keep it updated.

Nobara has a package with Nvidia drivers, making it easier to install.
>>
>>108600493
Debian, Ubuntu lts (with all offline tools at the install), Mint, Fedora, Aurora/Bluefin, etc etc.
>>
>>108600055
>Probably just a driver fuckup
If it is a driver fuckup then what do I do to fix?
I updated my Fedora KDE edition and a few minutes ago while playing W101 via Bottles I got the reset again.
Did someone at Red Hat mess something up?
>Check journalctl output for anything GPU related
Tried that a few hours ago. Didn't get any red text warnings if that was supposed to happen from another thread I was asking in.

I might ask this stuff a bit more later on.
Guess the honeymoon with Fedora KDE is over for me and the proper glitches are coming in.
>>
>>108600747
what did you upgrade? kde was among the newer stuff? it could be a new fuck up from them that is breaking your stuff, also is bottles gnome? why youre using that on kde man.
>>
>>108600747
Try booting the previous kernel and see if that fixes it.
>>
>>108592191
I am at my wits end here. Audio keeps skipping/crackling while running games. I cannot figure out what is causing it. I'm still kinda new to linux. Running Arch with KDE Plasma.
Happens on any port with any audio device
Seems to only happen while running any steam games
I've tried adjusting the quantum in the pipewire config. Games seem to just set whatever quantum they want anyway.
System is set to performance.
Any suggestions?
>>
>>108596491
I just use another search utility (fsearch). File manager search has always been an endless source of issues.
>>
Do you over clock your CPU?
How do you go about it? Is vidrel achievable with Linux software or is it best to to the tuning in Linux then switch back to main drive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2nlI84S0E
>>
File: file.gif (689 KB, 240x180)
689 KB
689 KB GIF
>>108596491
https://ss64.com/bash/find.html
Use the Terminal and the "find" bash command
I have this alias (a function actually because alias cannot use variables) in my .bashrc file for fast search on the go:
zfind0() { find / -type f -iname "*$1*" 2> /dev/null ; }
# To search foo bar files in root:
zfind0 "foo bar"
>picture unrelated
>>
>>108598694
When did this guys followers get infested with "trad" zoomers and groypers? Was it from the ortho LARP?
>>
File: 1734916978548.gif (296 KB, 220x221)
296 KB
296 KB GIF
>>108600930
arch bros.. our OS is a joke after all...
>>
>>108600930
idk i only ever use gnome and never touch audio settings. works fine for me.
>>
File: os-picker.png (349 KB, 1559x1107)
349 KB
349 KB PNG
>>108596922
LILO+BIOS is simpler than EFI stub. MBR/DOS is simpler than GPT, anyway. You can even bypass it entirely and do a superfloppy setup with LILO.
>>
>use system wine instead of proton
>free up 25% disk space
holy bloat
>>
How good is Almalinux? I've been pondering the idea of using it because Debian doesn't inspire me trust with the last year's drama regarding KDE Dev that quit. I've heard EPEL's builds are well maintained cause they're the same people behind Fedora, which is fine but I don't want to use it because my PC has random regressions with every other Kernel version bump.
>>
>>108601702
what happened to the kde dev? the kde experience on deb has been subpar.
>>
>>108596698
'Hacky' 0%
'Know what the you're doing cause you're not stupid' 100%
'IYKYK' 1000%
>>
>>108601702
Not as good as Rocky. RHEL desktop is kind of a pain in general because you have to use external repos for so much stuff, and not just EPEL.
>my PC has random regressions with every other Kernel version bump
Just boot the last kernel retard. Change management is a lot easier to learn than working around chronically out of date software and endless 3rd party repos.
>>
>>108601702
AlmaLinux exists (like Rocky Linux) to give the people that miss old CentOS the ability to return to a basically binary accurate recreation that's also free. So unless you're putting either on a server rack then you aren't really suppose to use either as a desktop OS.
>>
>>108601392
Guess so but legacy BIOS and boot sectors SUCK. Only if they made the size arbitrary so it could fit like whole kernels. Or a whole GRUB lmao.
>>108601047
>How do you go about it?
From the UEFI/BIOS obviously.
>>108600493
>don't want to update constantly, only if there's the occasional security patch
So, you don't want a system that offers you new stuff?
Only update when there's a security fix in the mix of those updates, nobody's forcing you to update constantly if you don't feel like it.
>>108597754
SecureBooting with signed kernel+initramfs blob would obviously cover the same functionality. Nobody does this in the real world but just saying you can do all that full disk encryption stuff without the use of bootloaders.
>>
which distro for someone who only wants to game and not be bothered by anything else? I hear both good and bad things about bazzite
>>
>>108601928
Bazzite is basically like SteamOS but it uses Fedora Atomic as a base instead of a forked atomic version of Arch.
>>
>>108601928
Doesn't make a difference. I find arch easiest to use, others prefer linux mint. I have not used fedora or immutable distros so I cannot comment on that.
>>
>>108601939
>Bazzite
Good luck when your OSTree breaks.
Why you fags keep recommending these edgy and clique distros.
Immutability is a plague, and CachyOS will keep smoking every other distro because of that.
>>
>>108601952
>i use cachyos btw
>>
>>108601928
Any distro can play games. Your hardware may favor one over the other.
>bazzite
Avoid meme distros. New users should pick one of Arch, Fedora, or Ubuntu and just make it work. There's nothing you need to do any of those 3 can't handle. Trying to avoid the learning curve sets you up for worse failure later.
>>
File: 1762571870973588.png (270 KB, 620x675)
270 KB
270 KB PNG
>>108601963
Hell yeah
>>
>>108601939
so it's a good thing for my usage?

>>108601944
easiest to use in what regard? I'm a noob when it comes to that kind of thing. I need something that just works
>>
>>108601975
Well it's made to play games first and foremost.
>>
>>108601928
Bazzite was good then ruined by tranny drama bullshit, pure Arch just werks but setting things up nicely takes time and you can make mistakes along the way. If you don't care about anything other than gayming just use CachyOS ig.
>>
File: 1758410380919982.png (885 KB, 1920x1080)
885 KB
885 KB PNG
>>108601952
>>108601963
>I use Gentoo and CachyOS on the immutable KDE Linux btw

Distrobox makes every distro argument irrelevant (apart from the kernel).
>>
>>108601392
nothing is simpler than efi stub
>>108602011
pretty sure one of cachy's main "differences" is the kernel. does it matter? no. but they make it a difference.
>>
>>108602057
Also the v3 and v4 packages which do make a difference. If any KDE developer lurks 4chan I'd love to see them support Glibc hwcaps in the future for some packages like Mesa, etc. Don't have to do it for everything like CachyOS but for certain system packages it shouldn't bloat the base system too much or result in too much added build system time, etc.

Other distros like OpenSUSE and Fedora, etc, already do this for some stuff I think.
>>
>>108601983
>>108602008
> setting things up nicely takes time and you can make mistakes along the way
I'll definitely make mistakes
is there any other difference between bazzite and cachyos? aside from fedora and arch, and one being immutable
>>
>>108601721
He got metoo'd over some anisine bullshit, he described the experience as annoying in general
https://www.preining.info/blog/2023/03/end-of-support-and-updates-to-the-kde-plasma-debian-builds/
>>108601765
I run most of my shit as Flatpaks or compile the couple of odd CLIs myself anyways, nothing keeps me over to any particular distro other than hardware support.
>>
File: 1638611479114.png (93 KB, 775x1024)
93 KB
93 KB PNG
I have an aversion to the AUR, yet some programs I want to install without using flatpaks are on there. I'm just about to use Debian Sid instead.
>>
>>108602086
>aside from fedora and arch, and one being immutable
you pretty much cover it, any QoL features that are baked in by default on Bazzite like MangoHud (FPS cap, driver-level VSync with VRR) can just be installed and used normally on both pure Arch and CachyOS.
>>
>>108602242
That's great. I too have been thinking of going with Debian Testing/Sid. I've read that it really isn't prone to breaking as one would think. Better go with Debian than rely on Ubuntu.
>>
>>108600930
I was having a similar issue in GTA IV, I tried modifying the quantum too and it didn't help, deleted the config files and the popping stopped (kept PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 just in case but it seems to work fine without it now)
>also arch btw
>>
Forgot to add sometimes it's just the hardware that fucks it up, I have an old i3 laptop that just refuses to run certain games without weird crackling, tried pipewire, pulse, arch, debian, nothing works
>>
File: 1765402495737031.png (6 KB, 367x166)
6 KB
6 KB PNG
Is this the power of Rust?
(rustdesk on linux)
>>
>>108597892
https://linux.die.net/man/8/fancontrol
>>
File: 1763261958151575.png (33 KB, 294x436)
33 KB
33 KB PNG
>>108602518
Works on my machineā„¢



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.