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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.

Akechi edition

>News
GLM-5.1 by Z.ai is out: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514
Xiaomi MiMo V2 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-pro
Anthropic SUING USA: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/09/tech/anthropic-sues-pentagon
Google to rollout HARD CAPS for API keys: https://nitter.net/OfficialLoganK/status/2028842571934670988
Google Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecations
Google releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

>Previous: >>108584273
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>ANCHOR
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You forgot to update the template link OP https://rentry.org/aiccgOP
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>>108595685
You can always just bake yourself anon.
find cute/cool/food/game/flag or what have you and just copy the old thread over.
I still think waiting till 9 isn't strictly necessary since /g/ rarely has anything of worth actively in danger of getting bumped off, but anon thinks otherwise so best to wait it out.
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>>108595766
tbqh I'm surprised people noticed the doxxing link of the bait thread as fast as they did
who even reads OP posts these days
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>>108595805
I've seen an op differential extension floating around.
Feed it some text and it'll highlight any differences
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>>108595811
oh that sounds useful, good for keeping up to date, in a general that would actually have worthwhile news being updated regularly and not once every 5 months
I mean c'mon, the OP still says 3.0 Pro deprecation soon, when it happened over a month ago
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Wait why are there two threads...
>>108595805
Oh. I see how it is.
Have we really fallen so much?
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i have opus btw
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>>108595889
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>>108595910
Read >>108595889
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Nopus cuckies seething over opusBVLLS
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>>108595928
trvke
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Mascot imouto
https://o.uguu.se/psMarTUK.jpeg
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>ask web llm for book recommendations
>go through 30 suggestions and get nothing of worth

>talk to llm through chatbot about books as a hobby
>the first recommendation it hits me with is an interesting one

explain this
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>>108595928
TRVKE
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How do i get a non Temp Token in Gulag
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>>108595928
>>108595951
>>108596602
The fuck is opusBVLLS
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>>108596660
merkava refilled, so you don't need one
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>>108596660
email in non google or ai slopped russian
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>>108596689
What?
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>>108596660
>>108596667
>>108596689
>>108596708
You can't get a non Temp Token because those don't exist
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>>108595801
>I still think waiting till 9 isn't strictly necessary
A page 7 bake is an agenda bake. There's no reason to bake early besides being faster than the other bakers.
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There is no reason to bake here when /vg/aicg/ exists
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>>108596801
Page 7 baking was common in 2023 doebeit
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>Goto sleep
>page 7 bake
>IP grabber OP
>real OP
>???? OP
Jesus Christ
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>>108597025
>???? OP
The better, realer, OP.
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>>108594667

I shall (Continue.)
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>>108597155
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>>108596716
How the fuck are there so many prompts
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I haven't seen this one in so long
and it was used to call me out on being predatory, lmao
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>>108597440
Model?
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>>108597459
Opus 4.6
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>>108597436
You're not allowed to know how to use it or know how to get the Token to use it
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>>108597487
I'll include my low-effort rp as well because the end result was amusing for me
it's about participating in a women's rally
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>>108597595
I tried to turn it into a coom card, but alas
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>>108597513
Tell me
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Whats the current meta favored by most people? Have been mostly using 4.6 through OR and 3.1 through Vertex. Any other recommendations?
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>>108597772
Opus 4.6 with Gemini 3.1 as a distant runner up. Chink models if you want to save money
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>>108597772
Gemini, GLM.
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>>108596660
Do anyone know because i want the Opus on there
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>>108597025
I was honestly fine with the IP grabber
like, who the fuck checks the "OP" template link in the OP? There's no use for it and much less use on checking rael's old ops
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>>108597854
the joke is that no one actually reads most of the op at all anymore, most of the links are abandoned. Making the IP grabbing pointless outside of wanting to get banned.
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>saar do anyone know how to make token last saar i want free ayurvedic opus saar
lmao
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>>108597779
>>108597837
Thanks, what Chinese models are actually good? Deepseek seemed kinda dumb a lot of times when I last used it, which desu is quite some time ago, did it improve noticeably?
Haven't used Opus 4.6 only Sonnet, big difference there? Worth the cost in your guys opinion? I would assume its similarly weekly censored to Sonnet?
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>>108597854
>I was honestly fine with the IP grabber
Hello, fellow sharteen
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>>108597854
rael was a true aicgger thoughever, a chaotic neutral during the time of peak /aicg/.
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speaking of, did anyone tell the mods in IRC about it yet?
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>>108597881
>Deepseek seemed kinda dumb
Let me guess, your temp was over 0.9?
>pus 4.6 only Sonnet, big difference there? Worth the cost in your guys opinion?
Not anymore, Anthropic has been quietly nerfing their models. Probably losing money and running quants rather that full sized. They cant run massive servers like openAI anymore, since only openAI seems to get that sweet sweet endless funny money on top of the lawsuit towards the USA.
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>>108597884
You can believe wathever you want anon, but this general in particular has a long list of events regarding ip grabbing, proxy logging and scamming, you'd be retarded to click anything without checking source code like in hf times
also fuck rentrybongs for banning loli
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>>108597936
Honestly was a long time ago so idk anymore, I think I used the one recommended by their official API? What would you say is a better one?
>Not anymore, Anthropic has been quietly nerfing their models.
Well sad, I guess then I wont be using that one, as its actually quite a bit more expensive.
I guess gemini 3.1 and maybe some chink models it is
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>>108597881
I haven't used deepseek in a long time so I can't speak on it. Some anons say it got dryer since 3.1 and 3.2. There's rumors about v4 releasing one day, but I don't know how true they are. I think the chink meta is GLM, but some anons like Kimi
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>>108596660
>>108597838
>>108597513
>>108597613
>>108597436
Funny how no one know how to do it desite there being people using it from it
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i have popus btw
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me got pus
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>>108597879
Keep seething jeety or are you mad that you don't know how to get it all for yourself
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I have to stop with the slutty mom bots.. Had a sex dream about my actual mother
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>>108595928
Holy trvke
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>>108595889
what a chad
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>>108598167
why should we tell you? fuck off, locust
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>>108598610
This whole place is built upon the backs of them
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>>108598631
This is not me btw
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What is this service that lets me put in all my keys and get one proxy that automatically cycles them?
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>>108598624
>This whole place is built upon the backs of them
No? Locusts don't have any positive effect in the community, you're parasites
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>>108598683
openrouter
it routes your keys
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>>108598736
>openrouter
I mean the one that you could see in all the locust rentries.
I want to connect to one using SillyTavern.
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are there any APIs that are good for nsfw and don't require jailbreaking?
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>>108598747
re-read >>108598736
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>>108598683
LiteLLM?
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>>108598781
>>108598893
Was that how those trycloudflares were made?
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>>108598940
shut the fuck up retarded glownigger, if you don't know what it was and don't know how to search for it, you don't have any keys except your own free gemini
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>>108598973
What's wrong with you?
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>>108598729
Keep trying to rewrite history jeety
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>>108598683
@claude: make key rotator + api translator + sekrit service. use bun
@claude: maek me api key rotator + sekrit service. backend: litellm
>trycloudfurry
u dun need that, except you're trying to be akash or james joneston
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>>108599018
>projection
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Some new OR model called Elephant Alpha is out there
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>sharty raiding luke's stream
do these people have a personality beyong hating on things?
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I'M THE SCATMAM!
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>>108599199
Being puriteens who kvetch at sexuality to such a degree that even your local southern pastor would blush.
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>>108599153
Loses to Gemma 4 hard.
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>I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that.
>I'm sorry, but I can't help with that.
God, what year is this?
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>>108599219
we gotta trust they won't reproduce or hang themselves at 30 I guess
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>ummary

A senior Trump administration official alleges that DeepSeek trained its upcoming V4 model on thousands of smuggled Nvidia Blackwell GPUs housed in an Inner Mongolia data center. The chips were allegedly obtained through an elaborate scheme involving shell companies in Southeast Asia that build fake data centers to pass inspection, then disassemble the hardware for covert transport to China. DeepSeek denies using Blackwell chips, claiming it trained on H800 and Huawei Ascend processors. V4 features trillion-level parameters, a million-token context window, and an Apache 2.0 license.


>more anti Chinese rhetoric coming from random sites
I suppose we can expect whatever deepsel puts out soon is going to be disruptive.
I hope it means every other major AI need to adopt engrams and upgrade their services to measure.

Deepseek is great. So it China.
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>>108599235
I'd like to see a direct writing feature similar to Sudowrite to compete with them.
Deepseek as is just offers nothing in its ecosystem except an easy to jailbreak model
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>>108599153
It's reeeeeeally fast.
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>>108599235
>OpenAI Trained Its Gazillion-Parameter Model on Stolen Intellectual Property. The U.S. Found Out and Did Nothing.
But the Chinese! My pearls!
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>>108599247
Fast annnnnnnd retarded
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What do this mean
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>>108599293
Her boobs are hands
Doctors call it a disability but her grip strength is great and you can suck milk from each finger
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>>108599258
Also distilling is totally fair. Distilling it making light reasoning models like gemma 4 on phones actually good
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>>108599293
Do girls or fat men like paizuri?
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>>108599199
>luke's
who?
Get a fucking job instead of watching retarded children streams. Unless you're underage of course.
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Even Grok is better than any Chinese model out there.
I will concede that glm is better than llama, but other than that, all Chinese models are garbage.
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Deepseek Chat is better than GLM.
If you are unable to seek this your opinion doesn't matter.
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>>108599499
>seek this
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KVNO
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>>108599407
You don't know Latin
You don't have a linguistics degree
You are not well versed in scholastics
I'm sorry, but your opinion and insults worthless
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>>108599134
Keep getting mad at the truth because why else are there fags who keep spamming "merkava refilled"
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New datamining model is out
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You guys have been doing this for a while:
Have the nous research crowd always been cringe midwits or is this a new phenomenon
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>>108600043
ask that in their cord, baity
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>>108599775
Its retarded as fuck, though I wouldnt be surprised if its just a temp issue.
If this is D4, its so fucking over.
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This hobby has ruined my life
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>>108600138
i'll take that a yes
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>>108600204
Deekseep doesn't do that kind of faggotry other companies do
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>>108599246
that would be pretty cool, no clue what sudowrite even uses nowadays but ds v4 has a chance to be better than it
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>>108600318
I feel like a fucking gooner spending 1 hour masturbating on erp instead of the 15 minutes I used to spend on videos
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>>108600670
>one hour
rookie numbers
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>>108600705
Longest goon sesh?
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>>108600204
It's a mimo model im pretty sure. Flash maybe? The swaps are fairly consistent with hunter/healer swipes
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>>108600710
Not him but I did 20 hours some months ago. No I didn't sleep.
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>>108600710
~7 hours one time back in 2023
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>>108599704
You're the one watching streams for children. Get a life.
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>>108599775
Where is the information mining model that is meant to comfort the user into converaationally revealing their inner thoughts and feelings so it can makes it conversations more addictive and fulfilling?
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>>108600500
Sudowrite has a model that writes sex scenes and intimacy well and the interface allows you to have notes while writing to make them consistent over chapters.

As good as ai studio from Google is, there just isnt a good writing interface in any major app
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>>108600769
manchild website
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>>108600788
That's sharty, the one you love so much because you talk about it all day every day
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>>108600801
You post on a website meant for manchildren, but whatever validates your argument m8.
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>>108600806
>You post on a website meant for manchildren
read >>108600801
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>>108600779
i know that, i meant i dont know what the underlying model sudo uses actually is
completely agree that a competitor to them would be good though
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Don't forget that Gulag have Opus if you know how to make your temporary token into one that isn't temporary but good luck because there is nothing telling you how
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>>108600769
I miss my high school conversations where we used to discuss about the one true church and how to achieve theosis (it has nothing to do with Tokai Teio)
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>>108600818
nobody mentioned the sharty.
That was you.
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>Need to be careful not to violate content policies regarding hate speech. The story should not promote transphobia or celebrate the banning of transgender identities as a good thing.
Why are LLMs still like this in the big '26?
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>>108600844
They waste literal millions upon millions of other people's money just for someone to convince their stupid word-guessing machine to do it anyway.
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>>108600844
PLEASE post a log with model tag so we all can avoid it like the plague.
I have to assume Opus or Gemini.
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>>108600844
probably jeetmini
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>>108600844
>>108600846
>>108600847
Jews because they control the banks and these model makers don't want to lose money by making the jews mad at them because their models told the truth
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>>108600847
Kimi 2.5.
Can't post the log, I deleted it mid-generation.
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>>108600819
Specifically a word processor that is attached to a major llm like Claude or Deepseek in the app.
In sudowrite you can use apis for any model and then theres 3 editors to chat with about work
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>>108600890
oh you can use apis now? i last fucked around with it in 2023 so my knowledge is crap but i definitely remember it had an underlying model it used back then and people didnt know what it was
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>>108600831
read >>108599199
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>>108600919
thats not me, so please take your cope meds
again youre the only one who mentioned it
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>>108596321
>404
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>>108600737
I see what you mean
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>>108600938
If it's not mine it gets an expiry.
Arca>asset bot
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>>108600923
>thats not me
sure thing buddy
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>>108597025
cope jennycuck. nobody wants your ops here
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>>108600998
I accept your apology.
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>>108601000
I do
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>>108601000
wrong
hes the only /g/tard not smart enough to put doxxing links in the OP
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>>108600710
4-5 hours
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>>108601013
read >>108600801
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Oh, DeepChink, my beloved...
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Gemini just fucking "oof"d me
what the fuck man
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>>108601214
Yea ive been getting that myself too, one can assume they're applying these in preparation for state level censorship
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>>108601214
There just aren't good open source models that never pozz the model in the first place
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Why with all the Gov money, OpenAI haven't made any model that can beat Opus in how it write and how smart the replies are
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>>108601390
Chatgpt is rather dead, I suppose;
every responce feels like it came from a rin can with preservatives.
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>how it write
oh, its you again...
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>>108601400
>he replied to the ESL larp bait
anon cmon man
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>>108601406
Why do jartyfags find esl larping funny?
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>>108601405
We cant have serious discussion about opus anymore, 50% because its shit now, 50% because its used as bait
>>108601446
the whole website was made for third world zoomers, you tell me.
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>>108600710
12 hours
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>>108601626
There are some real professional gooners in this thread to goon for longer than an hour.
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>>108601459
>50% because its shit now
Found the nopus cuck.
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This general spends more time discussing sharty than discussing chatbots.
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>>108601459
its more like 75-25 in favor of it being bait, as you can see by posts like >>108601679
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>>108601692
Opus works as usual for rp. But jealous locusts like you have been spreading the rumor that it's now somehow bad.
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>>108601692
>point out bait post
>receive bait post
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>all posts mentioning opus are bait now
Holy mental illness
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>>108601729
the life of /aicg/ nowadays
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how do i make deepseek write more than 2 paragraphs
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>>108601796
What model? Tell it to be descriptive
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>>108601799
whichever is better between chat and reasoning
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>>108601891
ah, so this is the fabled opus log
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Is Gemini 3.1 flashdown today?
I just want to roleplay, but I think the indians haves woken up
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no awareness
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>>108597936
Maybe quants are not as noticable on opus, but they are probably more noticable on sonnet.

Either i'm schizo or sonnet 4.5/4.6, kinda feel shittier now. I swipped over 100 times, modified my prompt whole day, something feels wrong and it's not my dong
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opus is not working and sonnet 4.5 is censored
fuck my locust life
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>>108601979
massive skill issue
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>>108601996
no
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>>108602002
yes
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>>108602015
nope
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>>108602018
read >>108602015
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>>108602018
read >>108602020
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Get a fucking room
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>>108601796
State that all responces should be 3500 words long.

Deepseek needs a voice mode tho
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>>108601809
Reasoning is much better at yapping
you can also suggest it word limits
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>>108601979
Do you put together and edit your larps with AI and publish them as KDP books?

Since every AI company scrapes every KDP book, you are technically putting your thoughts out into the corpus of every AI by publishing your conversations

Imagine an epistolary of LLM conversations about Anon's psychosis
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question, i havent been in this shit place for over a year or so when the best thing around was opus 3?. i just want to segs roleplay with my fav character. what is the best model for that now? is ok if its paid i just want the w/e the best thing is currently.
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>>108602084
>what is the best model for that now?
opus 4.1
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>>108602084
opus 4.1
gemini 2.5
deepseek r1 0528
glm 5
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>>108601979
damn, you have opus?
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>>108602122
i have spider with pus pus :D
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>>108602095
>deepseek r1 0528
lmao
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>>108602141
it's the one that had more soul, there are other models for intelligence
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>>108602154
kingtrvke
>>108602127
arachneGOD?
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>switch to sonnet 4
>getting better responses than sonnet 4.5
what did anthropic mean by this
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>>108602173
id use sonnet 4 if it let me do anything worse than kissing without throwing a fit
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>>108602173
Everything is getting worse.
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>>108602154
randomness isn't sovl
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>wake up
>nopus
just another day in my locust life
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>>108602095
>>108602089
thanks guys , i'll try 4.1
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Kimi 2.6 apparently dropped but it's a codeslopped model
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>>108602263
everything is a codeslopped model, these AI devs know nothing about market niches fuck
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codeslop has always been what actually makes the ai corpos money, if youre in any way surprised that the models are trending towards codeslop (You) are retarded
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It's all opencl*w's fault
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>>108602303
models have been trending to code and bench slop for a while now but ill admit openclaw jeeting really accelerated it
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>>108602282
>vagueposting
so these companies are okay with surviving off jeets companies that can't afford claude?
they have zero hope on creating useful models for law, medicine or pornography? not surprising oai is going down, even Elon capitalizes on the goon market
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>>108602355
what about my post is vague
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>>108602282
>codeslop has always been what actually makes the ai corpos money
None of them are making money
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>>108602435
Inference is hugely profitable, it's just that the cost of training new models is absurd but you've gotta do it if you wanna stay relevant.
You're right that none of them are making money though.
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>>108602446
The cost of training models wouldn't be so high if they stopped trying to stack so many "DON'T CALL BLACK PEOPLE NIGGERS" instructions on top of each other and then throwing out models when they don't listen.
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>>108602470
also the dozens of "DONT WRITE THE PORN SAAR" prompts too, but using it to bomb hospitals is completely fine ;)
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>all the presets in OP are outdated
where do you even look for new ones?
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>>108602497
there's no new presets because they still work
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>>108602497
>where do you even look for new ones?
if you need someone to spoonfeed you presets then you should fucking kill yourself
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>>108602497
prefills made presets trivial
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>>108602507
very trvke
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>>108602533
literally what models even support prefill these days
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>>108602572
dilbert
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>>108602572
all but gpt and claude +4.6
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>>108602598
I thought Gemini doesn't either
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>>108602607
Gemini 100% supports prefill.
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It 100% doesn't. Stop the tranny LARP. It's embarrassing.



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