pacman doesn't need 2 commands
>not checking the updoots with apt list -u
>>108596593>apt list -uwhat do you do after?
yaylmaoing @ ur life
debian is just patching one package helper on top of the other,>dpkg>apt>apt-get>apt-fastand on top of all those you also have shit like>apt-cache>apt-mark>others I am forgettingobviously not ideal, fragmented to fuck.it is utmost retarded and feels ducktaped and yucky.arch only has pacman, it is fast with easy to remember options
>>108596629this but with yay aliased to paru
Completely gay commands. All I want is an automatic message saying "you have to update because there's a vulnerability" or "because your Firefox 60 will stop supporting the latest crookedflare requirements", everything else doesn't matter and doesn't need an update and especially an upgrade. OS versions is turbogayness, I don't want new OS versions.
>>108596652based
>>108596629>yayI only use corporate backed programs.
>>108596652Mint does this
Literally never do it. I just don't do it. I checked the update manager the other day and it said 7gb of updates to be installed and I said no, literally just don't do it, and I closed the update manager. Any time I install a package it tells me to update first and I just don't do it. Who cares? Why would I? Your shit isn't that up to date either what did you fuckin time travel? you need future updates from after your program was released? Don't tell me to update. So I just don't. Literally never update. I hear about security issues, they came with version whatever update. Well lucky I didn't update then isn't it. And people say to me, but what about security? Aren't you worried about security? Literally isn't even real. Never ever ever update.
>>108596652>i need to be notified reeeee FEED MEhow old are you? id be bothered if i got updoot notification anywhere in MY os.>>108596936>update managerbloat.>>108596629*gets raped by the aur malware*
>>108596556winget upgrade --all
>>108597021how fast is that?
>>108597045my pc just exploded
sudo pacman -Syuyes I weigh 250 pounds, what of it?
>>108597021winget is largely niggerware that is unscriptable without the WingetClient PowerShell module. scoop is based and clean and designed from day 1 to be scriptable.
sudo pacman -SyuYes, I weigh 104 lbs, what of it.
>>108596556alias ud='sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo yt-dlp -U && remove && clean && thumbs && exit'
sudo pkg upgrade -yyes i'm fucking old, deal with it
sudo slackpkg update
>>108596636>easy to remember optionsOh yeah such as>pacman -S to shear a program>pacman -Runs to run a program>pacman -U to update the system
>>108597942>shearI meant search, sorry sars
>>108597012>aur malwareif you're too dumb to read a PKGBUILD and yet still choose to use the AUR, you deserve it
>>108596556sudo apt install nala..sudo nala upgrade
>>108598040I don't understand whatever the fuck code there is in a package build. There are weird symbols and numbers and letters. Never had an issue with the aur
>>108597950at least it is one command that does everything.not some Frankenstein monstrosity >that is also slow and clunky
>>108598323>that is also slow and clunkyenough of pacman archfag, this is an apt chad thread.
>>108598130sudo anal upgrade
>>108596556This stupid shit have been one command.>B-but you can just alias-I have to ssh into multiple servers at work.
>>108596652You're using the wrong OS for that. Everything is tightly couples and if one new version of a program needs an upgrade to one library, every other program that also depends on that library also needs to upgrade. If you don't want that, either use macOS, Windows or NixOS. Normal loonix distros are forever cursed with this dumbassery. It's getting better for GUI applications with Flatpaks (or Snaps if you must) but for the rest of the system, shit sucks.
>>108598997thats why linux desktop will never be mainstream. using commands should be optional
>>108599052It is on desktop. Every non autistic distro comes with GUI updaters now. They even update flatpaks and snaps. Well, sometimes. Some of them only update some of them which is very intuitive and well designed (TM) But on servers, it's rather annoying.
I haven't updated since 2016. Updates are the devil. I am a child of God.
>>108596617apt-mark hold docker*
>>108597021winget is the slowest piece of shit "package manager" I've had the misfortune of using
>>108597048It fetches installers, it's not running a complex conflict resolver. Chad just runs that without caring.
yt-dlp -U
zypper dup allow no vendorchange
>>108599023Windows and MacOS are worse, they force shit upon and without giving nearly as much freedom as linuxes/bsd, can't stand them. What I really would prefer is a functional capability-enabled OS without Unix POSIX baggage. But we can't have it, because Linux is just good enough and we've got tons of software and drivers for it which cannot possibly be ported/rewritten in any reasonable time for a new OS.
>>108599238What you want then is as atomic desktop. Fedora Silverblue / whatever they call the KDE variant.
>>108596636>it is utmost retarded and feels ducktaped and yucky.linux
>>108599118thats normal if its downloading .exe file. and it just works and doesn't tell you its about to install or remove lib-xaeza or py213213-lib.
>>108596556sudo zypper dup -y && sudo flatpak upgrade -y>> inb4 forced yes - fuck u I'm going in no johnny
>>108599900the linux goy commands
>>108596636Arch also has some disparate commands in pacman-contrib and its command line flags take some getting used to compared to "update and upgraze plz kthx". I agree that it's essentially better though.
>>108599072I'm still traumatized by a GUI package manager not working in Ubuntu 10 years ago, so I just keep using the command line out of habit.The only thing worse than not having GUI is having GUI that doesn't work.
For me, it's >sudo dnf --refresh distro-sync
>>108599941I just love it when you can't install software because "unattended-updates" holds the lock on dpkg, doing updates in the background you never asked for. You better not kill it your system will never boot again.
>>108599956Removing unattended-upgrades is the first thing I do on distros that have it.Nope. Not dealing with that shit. My system will update when I tell it to.
>>108599023normal loonix distros can use standalone nix too
>>108599023nta but thoughts on GoboLinux?
>>108599968It's an incredibly shitty idea. People complain about Windows doing random updates while you shut down your computer, I get that, but Ubanbo just doing system updates whenever it wants, while you work, and blocking functionality on your computer while it does is somehow perfectly okay with everyone?
>>108600196It's ok when Linux does it because Linux is FREE and respects your freedoms. Windows does not do this because Microsoft is an evil corporation that wants to install spyware on my PC which is not user respecting and violates my right to privacy.
>>108600196it's not okay which is why literally everyone shits on ubuntu now, tardo
emaint -a sync && emerge -avuDN @world
>retards criticize apt for "being more than a single command">they'd rather use flagsjfc, you people are really stupid>>108596652you don't need to use apt or apt-get directly... your DE most likely has its own package manager.>>108598040>what is a supply chain attack?lmao @ arch retards.
