It's not at all evident (to me) from looking at pic related which tab is active, and I've more than once clicked on the wrong one.I can't remember any tab UI where I've made that mistake.And does ANYONE actually like these flat UIs? Why can't we have bevels, gradients, and textures like we used to?And can anyone make the case for GNOME's flat UI not being uninspired, ugly, and unergonomic?
>>108602311I'm a pixel artist and is it possible to make my own global theme on linux?
>>108602316Yes.
>>108602316nah it's a waste of time just use emacs or terminal for everything
>>108602311To compare, look at pic related Firefox.They also went all-in on flat UIs, but they still give the active tab a subtle bevel and shadow for the sake of usability.What's insane is that Gnome and other desktops all use GPU hardware acceleration.They've never had less detail, ornamentation, and special effects, yet they've also never had beefier graphics compute to pull it off.
>>108602316you'll be mostly styling toolkits. it can be done, but gnome/gtk put a lot of effort on making sure everything is accessible, i.e making sure you can bump the font size and the ui stays responsive.also you'll have fun fighting every updates.
>>108602311>It's not at all evidentThis pic related is better, because the close tab control in the first pic related does give some indication, but when you select the second tab as in this pic related, because Nautilus expands every open tabs until the entire row is filled, the close control is all the way towards the right edge of the window.By contrast, with Firefox, If you only have a few tabs open, it won't expand them, and instead keep them bunched towards the top left corner. (where most people's attention is drawn).
>>108602386Can someone look at that pic related and honestly tell me that it's not user-hostile?How did multiple people in the GNOME Foundation see that and conclude>yep, looks good. let's ship(Probably after double-checking to make sure it can't be themed.)
>>108602386It's funny that this wouldn't be as much of a problem on a small touch screen device rather than a widescreen, because the tabs wouldn't expand so much, so it seems like it's yet another example of GNOME being optimized for tablets/phone touch devices--but no one uses GNOME on those devices.Ten years on, and they're still optimizing for devices GNOME has almost zero presence on.
>>108602311>"high"lighted tab>is darkerkek @ gnometard design
>>108602311You can't drag and drop archive file. It defaults to MacOS behavior of unzipping exactly where the archive file is located.You can normally drag and drop an image into 4chan image selector on other DE and Windows. This doesn't work on GNOME
same for me. GNOME has a horrible UI and UX
>>108602311>flat UIsThe interface looks so light and simple, that if Win95 worked on the 486DX, this will work toACKWait... that's not progress, it's a constant regression.
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It's not just flat UI. Someone at some point decided that tabs as buttons is perfectly fine. I suspect this decision was made because it's much simpler to implement UIs that way and put tabs anywhere without a second thought for how they should relate to the content they're related - and then everyone was like "yeah, why not. who cares". But all of this made UIs ugly and sometimes, like in this case, unusable. Tabs should not be buttons, she should be tabs, bordering the content and with the active tab being part of the viewport where that content resides.
>>108602316yes just do it for KDE Plasma
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>>108602735>headerbarinto the trash it goes
>>108602311>>108604844thunar mogs
>>108604844I've gotten so used to this that I sometimes forget how fucked it is.Usually I just choose "Open in Console" and then>touch whatever.txtBut what is actually the intended workflow here?For a change, I actually, jut now, tried "Open with" and chose gedit, and it opened with a red error bar:>Could Not Open File>Error opening file '....': Is a directorySo apparently they seriously expect normies to use the shell to create files from file browser?
>>108605777(checked)I'm more of a fan of PCManFM-Qt
>>108602311Yes you are retarded. This is also the way tabs work in bowsers and in irl phyisical tabs
>>108607159>irl phyisical tabsWhat the fuck am I reading
>>108604844I agree with gnome for this case alonewhen you create a file from right click, it's most likely just an empty file, and what's the point of empty file?if you want to create an image file you use image editorwant to create binary file? you use compilerwant to create video file? you use video editormaking empty file has no use case
>>108607166>he doesn't know "files" and "tabs" are a metaphor for real-life physical objects with the same namezoomer moment
>>108607419tabs in computer do not necessarily have anything to do with files
>>108607458oh no no no
>>108607458>>108607166holy shit
>>108607498>>108607505tabs in real life have to do with files or documentsthat's the difference
>>108607159>This is also the way tabs work in bowsersSee>>108602362It's objectively NOT how they work.Firefox puts a bevel/shadow around the active tab, and it doesn't automatically expand tabs, so if you only have a few open, they're grouped towards the top-left of the screen, where your eye is drawn, and you can quickly scan all open tabs, even if you have a half-dozen open.GNOME is clearly optimizing for mobile, wasting tons of screen real estate, despite the fact that no one uses it on mobile.
>>108607407Empty files are used to open then directly instead of:>open the editor>save as>select the path>write the file name>click in save5 steps compared to:>create file>write the file name>do an open with
>>108602311>using Gnome>2026Why would you willingly suffer like this?
>>108602311unc...
>>108602311>have multiple tabs>only one has a control button visible>the same tab looks different than the others>go on 4chan>post autistic crashoutthat said, the design looks horrible but your criticism is just plain stupid. maybe you'd be happier using a fisherprice level OS.
>>108607649you seem to want an "open editor in this directory" feature
>>108602311What an unusable eyesore.
>>108607669See this pic related: >>108602386It's much less obvious when the second tab is selected instead of the first, because the "close" control is now all the way at the right edge of the window.
>>108604844I’m pretty sure you just have to place a blank file in the templates folder. You can right click and create whatever you want.
>>108607640>GNOME is clearly optimizing for mobile, wasting tons of screen real estate, despite the fact that no one uses it on mobile.I think gn*me was intended for tiny surface tablets and other types of notebooks/netbooks
>>108607852Oh, brother. GNOME is just a logical evolution of the GNUstep paradigm.
>>108607781my brother in christ, your eyeballs have muscles to move your field of view wherever you want. your decision to not make use of that feature is a level of autism I have not seen before on this vietnamese shadowpuppet forum. seek help.
>>108602316on gtk is super easy.
>>108605777check'd. it could make use of a better search tab, but its over the competition.
