How can Euro grads compete when an Indian grad does the same job for €41k to €45K?
most IT jobs pay that much as entry level. Switzerland is a exception. Germany as well if you live in the big cities. You aren't getting US wages here. 70k with a bachelor is impossible.
Is that worth it? am really asking an honest question here, is that worth it?>I only slept 5-6 hours daily for 3+ yearsProbably didn't have any social life or hobbies, merely slaved away to be the goodest of goys.Meanwhile, Joe six-pack is doing the bare minimum pretending to work, just to get 80% of that same paycheck home and actually live his life.The whole thing crumbles like a house of cards when you ask yourself questions like these desu.
>>108608400A fresh grad wont get much more than 45k besides really expensive cities or maybe northern countries, can only speak about germany but anything north of 50k is highish for a new grad>>108608502Fresh sure, after a few years no
Well I'm getting that amount after slacking off for years and while posting on x on my main screen and watching a video on my second screen. So there's that....
>>108608400we won't and it doesn't matter because what happened in usa is going to happen in euro and van der leyen already announced (or is that the fggot german ?) that there will be a new wage of immigration, for blabla the system of retirement or whatever bullshit they come wth, mostly indians but i'm pretty sure they gonna sneak some niggers in it.also in spain latinos are replacing spanish. at least there's latinas so i guess it's a better immigration kek. I wonder what could look like an europe of Latino-Negro-Arabo-Whatevero
>>108608510i honestly doubt the "uhh i spent 15 hours a day programming" has really much merit to it, both as an actual claim and the usefulness of it. basically anything you learn by autodidactism can only be so useful compared to doing a 6 month internship and having a senior programmer correct your retardation dailymethinks its just him showing off his hustle because everything is all about face and tooting your own horn and yada yada. the managerial class does buy that shit hook line and sinker though>Meanwhile, Joe six-pack is doing the bare minimum pretending to work, just to get 80% of that same paycheck home and actually live his life.to be fair joe six-pack in china isn't going to be working at all, or they'll be tacked onto their some family business as an extra hand. the guy in the OP definitely lucked out big time, even getting a real job is huge in thirdieland since unemployment is like 50-70%
>>108608400By being smarter and by doing the job for even less than that. I was getting 30K on my first job in Shitaly.
>>108608644>to be fair joe six-pack in chinai meant india wtf moot why did you change the words as they moved from my brain to my keyboard??
>>108608529>Fresh sure, after a few years nothats why I wrote entry level. Also 55k is quite normal for a bachelor in Germany in a city but rent alone will be 1k and you only get like 3k net.
>>108608644He is definitely overhyping the amount of studying he did. No one can do that for more than a few months without burning out.
>>108608727>>108608529>>108608502OP here. Made a mistake. He earns 33k to 36k euros before tax.
>>108608727His github to check I'd he's lying.https://github.com/Aditya1404Sal
This exact thread was earlier deleted by jannies, why?Indian anon here btw from the previous thread.
>>108608400Test
>>108608400Jokes on you, 40-45k€ is already the average wage fir an engineer in Yurop.
Russian anon here. How mouch people earn in Europe after taxes? Mine salary is about $60,000 after tax.
>>108610049>Jokes on you, 40-45k€ is already the average wage fir an engineer in Yurop.for a junior, yes>t. german
>>108608400They cannot. Indians will win because they are willing to work harder for less. It is just basic economics. If you don't like it try to compete.
>>108610049with vacations retirements, healthcare included ?
Fucking hate that these third world street shitters have access to our economy. It's not so much the problem they're often shit coders but if they work for a slave wage that drives salaries down for us skilled native devs. That's on top of pressure from other factors such as AI wreaking havoc currently.I make like €50K a year here (NL) as a software dev which is about the average income across the whole population, despite being in some top 1% by education level and skillset.
>>108608400>16 hours of programming daily [...] for 3 years>idk graphs or treesI don't compete with "people" like this
>>108611832Health care? I haven't come across a job that reimburses those costs (although they're "low" in Europe).
>>108608400I met some euro grads, they don't like minimum wage jobs
>>108608400Europe is socialist as fuck. Only a few tiny countries, such as Switzerland, Luxembourg or Liechtenstein, remain capitalist.In socialist shitholes such as Spain, people already make the same as pajeets, and we're only declining harder.
>>108608400They compete by not having that god awful Indian work culture.Half of all Indians favor finding the laziest way to look like they're getting things done. Sometimes if you're lucky some work gets done by accident in this effort.
