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Do not trust Canadians.

Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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cat pc

>>108615110
This is the actual thread not one full of spam and lies.

>>108615276
cute

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>>108615110
>https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/596.21/596.21-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe
New nvidia drivers just dropped. Update now!

So should I wait or buy the 5070ti?

>>108615338
buy asap

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What's up with the 8gb 60/60ti results? Game secretly tweaking settings or pt isn't working or what is happening here?
Digital foundry says the game has issues on 8gb even without pt
>>108615338
70 or 70ti depending on resolution and local pricing

>>108615373
having too little vram can cause games to silently downgrade the textures and foliage which then improves performance since the gpu is doing less work

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What are the implications of this data?

>>108615373
Just another lack of optimization for the RE Engine.
There were separate teams in Capcom working on MH:Wilds, RE9, and Pragmata.
Wilds got the budget to unfuck the performance issues because it's expected to have a longer sustained revenue cycle with MTX and expansion.
Don't expect the same level of performance tuning for this new IP.

>>108615485
But it's only the 2 8gb gpus that stand out as weird.

>>108615373
UMMM HELLOOO WHERE IS THE 9070XT

YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME IT CANNOT TRACE A SINGLE PATH ARE YOU

>>108615338
>>108615373
>>108615367
5070ti & 5080 have nonstop driver issues

>>108615548
that's A lie btw

the truth - the 9070XT cannot even play most modern games at high settings

>>108615532
9070 was built for the games of the past, not the present or future. Hope this clears that up for you.

>>108615110
>GPU
>Budget
B580 is good on a budget but at least in Australia the 9060 XT is an absolute scam for its price. Pay a little more for a 9070 XT and you'll get double the performance, the choice is obvious.

>>108615574
5080 and 5070ti literally dont work on windows or linux today they have broken drivers its not A lie.

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>>108615583
>>108615574
RTX 5XXX is broken asf

>>108615513
Not if you look at the non-raster & console-tier RT results.

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wtf nvidia is so overpowered

>>108615584
Isn't the 9070 still like 60% more expensive than the 9060 even in Australia?

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>build new PC at the start of the rampocalypse
>don't use wifi
>today try to use Bluetooth on PC for <reasons>
>not working
>troubleshoot for an hour
>realize I never connected wifi antennas
>pic related

>>108615276
won't that fill the fans with fur

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>rtx 3060 comeback
>5800x3d comeback
>raptor lake comeback

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>>108615921

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I want a 5080 tier gpu but with 12gb and a price similar to the 70ti

>>108615921
I do wonder who is going to buy these.

>>108615921
Why make new stuff when you can sell them the old stuff?

>>108615986
I reckon you should hop in that time machine and mosey on down to November 2025

>>108616174
If the 5800X3D is reasonable it'll have a lot of buyers. They were selling for like $500+ on ebay.
Of course we all know bots and scalpers are the people that are going to buy them.

>>108615913
nah top is exhaust

>>108615863
The 9070 is questionable too when the 9070 XT is only slightly more expensive but has all the extra cores and shit. The 9070 XT is always getting good deals here, I got mine for the equivalent of 530 USD.

This is a fake troll thread quit posting here it will be deleted eventually anyway the next time the mod looks at the board
Real Thread:
>>108615222
>>108615222
>>108615222

>>108616260
fuck off you filthy spammer stay in your spam general full of the same spam posts being posted over and over again (by you).

Or are you going to spam this thread nonstop now too?

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>>108616260

>>108616260
Jannies aren't deleting threads anymore, you can just be the king of your very own iteration of /pcbg/

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>>108616301
>'I will act like an abortion you if you don't want to be my friend'

>>108616260
Ah, sorry man.
Maybe next time? Honestly, you need to tighten up the OP a little bit, it just seems like a troll, you know?

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Do we like it?

>>108616406
For what purpose?

What even is a nicotroon?

>>108616474
Some retard from Canada who got priced out of the 5070ti and decided he was going to make his life AMD and trying to bait people with faked or recycled tech support type question.

>>108616443
Only way to deal with AMD's CPU thermals.

>>108616483
He's Canadian?
Damn, with how he acts and how poor he seems, I thought he was a SEA monkey.

>>108615456
Nova Lake is cringe until proven to be based, I wouldn't bet on it.

>>108616553
>cringe until proven to be based
Why not the other way around? Most of what they've done recently was based

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>>108616474
NICO MY COUSIN LETS GO /pcbg/ TROLLING

>>108616745
Intel can't even release their new CPUs on time.
Arrow Lake Refresh should've released last holiday season at the latest.
Nova Lake might not matter if a Zen 6 X3D CPU releases first.

>>108616474
Based autist who gives nvidia shills their own medicine. (i.e. being an annoying shit, posting cherry picked benchmarks, making fun of driver problems with made up scenarios, etc.)

>>108616340
>I will fucking PUNISH you this is MY board
god what a fucking faggot. some people would be better off if they just got it over with and killed themselves, this is fucking pathetic

>>108616896
>Zen 6 X3D CPU releases first
>It costs 2x more than the eventually released intel equivalent
What now?

>>108615921
>with a price increase of 400%
>and all stock will be bought by bots and scalpers 2 secs after they go live
nice...

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>>108616745
It's just more amdfag fantards shitting on everything that isn't amd. It's too early to make a call since there isn't pricing or clock speed data out, but Nova isn't looking all that bad from what details are there. Ultra 270K Plus & 250K Plus already got a lot of places that usually shove AMD cpus into every suggestion list and build to admit Intel was pushing out some good options.

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Everyday a 5090 buyer gets scammed

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>>108617335
>costs 2x more
>now?
Imagine speculating on Zen 6 X3D prices in April 2026.

>>108617398
we got pex
6 beeps
invoice the customer

>the xx90 cards increase in price the older they get
wtf?

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>>108617441
>dogshit increase in price the older they get
just like the retro console market

>>108617454
Hey, leave the retro consoles alone...

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>>108615110
>2026
>Still no Monitor that is
>4K
>24"
>240Hz+
>16:10

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>>108617868
>>4K
>>24"


>16:10
This is based though.

>>108617868
its time to move on anon

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>>108617893
4K at 24" (16:10) is nearly 200DPI. At 27" it is 167DPI, at 32" that's 141DPI.
I can still see individual pixels at 200DPI at an arms length so it's technically still not good enough. It's not you, it's literally my freak eyes.
>>16:10
>This is based though.
Yes, you can literally display 2^n DIN sheets on your monitor while losing minimal screen real estate to margins.
Also taller monitor = better monitor for other reasons.

>>108617906
>Tech hasn't even arrived yet
>Time to move o-
pic rel

>>108617391
we just need MOAR CORES

Just finished setting up the AW3425DW, holy shit bros, holy shit...

>>108615986
buy a blackwell 6000

I love my 5090 and OLED.

a 240hz monitor paired with a mouse with a polling rate of 125 is crazy
and by crazy i mean fucking horrible

>>108618483
That's the solution to the current state of hardware, just be rich.

>>108618483
>5090
Not strong enough for path tracing. I'm saving for 6090

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>>108618463
Are you the guy who asked this question? >>108610889
How did you get the display so soon? In store pickup? Grats.

>>108618596
If you buy a new mouse, don't use the ultra-high polling rate option like 8KHz unless reviewers validated their reliability.
It just keeps the CPU needlessly busy.

>>108618693
False. But I too will buy a 6090 as well.

>>108618722
Yessir that's me, thanks! It was shipping, must've gotten lucky with amazon having it on a nearby center.
Will enjoy the hell out of Pragmata on it tomorrow

>>108618956
nuh uh

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>>108615921
>HXL posted a photo of what appears to be a presentation slide showing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D with its specs, alongside a special "AMD AM4 10 Years Anniversary Edition" plaque, and Chinese text indicating it will be available starting Q2 2026.
AM4 NIGGAS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRK!!

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>>108618722
>If you buy a new mouse, don't use the ultra-high polling rate option like 8KHz unless reviewers validated their reliability
that's because you keep buying buggy ass AMD CPUs with cheap asmedia USB controllers
8000 events per second is not a big deal for a modern system

My G502's max is 1000 but I use 500 and I am happy.

>>108618722
>>108619473
Some Windows setups have crazy high CPU Timer Resolution like 15ms. It should be 1ms or 0.5ms.

>>108619761
it doesn't really matter
but if you have 8k available you might as well use it
it's different if you're on wireless, lower polling rate means better battery life
>>108619762
has nothing to do with what i said and windows 11 doesn't have a fixed timer resolution anyway
USB devices like 8k mice or certain sound cards have problems on AMD because they contract asmedia to give them the cheapest possible host controller to put into their CPUs
intel designs their own IP
just like if you use a cheap realtek NIC it will have 20% CPU usage when maxing out the link, while a quality intel NIC won't show increased CPU usage at all

>>108619811
So what you're saying is that we should have never left Intel and that we will one day return to the true faith.

>>108619811
Windows 11 typically defaults to a 15.6ms system timer resolution unless it detects a game or audio but the detection isnt perfect just like the game bar scheduling bullshit.

>>108619811
>has nothing to do with what i said
Yeah because you're retarded.

>>108619833
He's just a retarded Intel user. His 14700k is slower than a 5800X3D in Cyberpunk.

>>108619850
>Cyberpunk
Didn't ask.

>>108619833
or demand higher standards from your fellow gamers
AMD can design good cores, they just love to cheap out on everything else
like chipsets or socket design or power delivery or heat spreaders
>>108619837
there's no global timer resolution on windows 11 at all
and that has nothing to do with USB handling
>>108619850
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/107992484/#107996200

>>108618693
>Not strong enough for path tracing. I'm saving for 6090

And I am correct to assume you do in fact own a 5090, right? I mean, it's not like you are just making wild, false claims about hardware you do not actually have any experience with, is it?

I'm going to sound like a random hyte shill but the Hyte X50 is fucking cool, my PC looks fucking weird/cool and has great temps.

>>108619986
I think it looks like a Fischer Price toy but whatever man, if it has great temps who cares

>>108619991
It does but I like it

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>>108620006
>I like it
All that matters, I'm happy for you.

>>108619138
>that'll be $999 for the special edition, gweilo

>>108620006
I wanted to buy the Phanteks Evolv s2 but I am sure the thermals of it are bad, so I am still using my NZXT H710i, I see no reason in changing it

>>108619896
i watched 2 knowledgeable youtubers talk about this issue in depth (20+ mins videos)

>>108620096
Ah, youtubers definitely are unbiased and definitely never say whatever the fuck they want just to get clickbait views.

>>108620118
>>108620096
What I should have said was:

Unless you own the graphics card, you're just speculating, you have no empirical evidence.

>>108619138
This is just an appetizer for when they launch the 7800x3d am4 edition in Q4 2026

How do I actually tell which of a build's fans are making the most noise when they ramp up? Bunch of other sounds in my house and a neighbor's AC unit can make it hard to tell sometimes. Specifically more of the humming type of noise since at least I know a pulsing whine that I hear is coming from the GPU specifically, so the rest of the sounds have to be others.

In a fishtank, which combination helps to feed the GPU more cold air and throw out the used hot air?
>more power to bottom fans (120 x 3)
>more power to side fans (140 x 2)
>more power to rear fan (120 x 1)
>more power to top AIO (120 x 3)
I keep that rear fan at 50% minimum and it only goes up to 70% or so even at CPU 100C, the idea being to encourage more positive pressure and also to not steal air away from the AIO when the CPU is hot. I really wish this MSI motherboard of mine had a temperature average option rather than tieing fan speed to CPU temp only.

>>108620255
I usually just set all of the fans to a low frequency (like 25%) then go through each one at a time maxing them out to identify which group I'm tweaking, then tuning them down until your find just the right % to have it run at before it gets obnoxiously loud

Case fans aren't really meant to cool your system in a conventional method so much as they're just there to move the heat out, so really any case fan curves should be flat at the highest frequency before they become audibly annoying level to you. CPU temp spikes too unpredictably to let your case fans fluctuate based on it causing a lot of random ramp ups an unwanted fan noise all because you opened firefox or something is updating in the background
I've found having your cpu/aio coolers function the same up until the cpu hits 75/80c then ramping them up to 100% works well
So like my desk area is very quiet usually so my noctua case fans are all constantly running at 42% no matter what the cpu temp is
My aio's fans are running at a constant 45% until the cpu hits 75c, then it slowly ramps up to 100% at >= 80c

Another thing to keep in mind is if you've got a lot of case fans, having them run at the same frequency can cause some humming, so I'd try to slight vary up the frequencies

>>108620255
>In a fishtank
You'd probably have to increase the bottom intake fan RPMs.
Spend some time adjusting the fan curve & RPMs in the BIOS or other fan monitoring tool to isolate the noisiest set.
Find the fan RPM to noise sweet spot first before you experiment with fan curves (ex: set horizontally straight fan curve while testing noise tolerable RPMs).
The fans don't need to run near maximum RPM until the processor temp is around 80°C.

>>108620367
My case and AIOs were around the 35-45 in the 45C to 70C 1st temp range, I just recently tuned the bottom up to 45-55 so that they sit there by default because I notice my GPU's a little bit warm on more demanding games while the CPU is barely feeling anything.

And by "little bit warm" I mean I took it down from 67-69C to 66-68 with that tweak, at the cost of making the hum noticeable on idle desktop usage rather than near silent.

>>108619986
It's so feminine looking though

>>108620776
nigga programming socks originated on this board half these dudes probably posting with chastity cages on they pp

>CPU: i5-12400F
>MOBO: MSI Pro H610M-S or Asus Prime H610M-CS D4
>RAM: White Label Chink Garbage: 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200Mhz, CL19
>SSD: White Label Chink Garbage: 512GB, M.2 2280, PCIe, NVMe, Read 3100MB/s, Write 1200MB/s
>GPU: White Label Chink Garbage: GTX 1660 Super, 6GB
>PSU: White Label Chink Garbage: Darkflash AT650, 650w, 80 Plus Bronze, Active PFC
Any second opinions here? I'm planning to finish ordering today.
This one for ~$860, or ~$980 with XFX Radeon RX 6650 XT Speedster Swft210, or ~$1010 with Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 Gaming OC 8GB.
There are some other lower end options like 2060S and 2070 too, but they probably aren't that cost effective.
(Prices are after currency conversion from my shithole.)

>>108621124
get a b760 motherboard instead for ram tuning and a 12600k at least and I'd take the 6650xt radeon if you can, but I think the cpu upgrades are more important long term

>>108621124
Having access to DLSS is precisely why those other options cost the way they do, but you didn't post the local prices for those.

retarded question, maybe, what should stop me from just gaming on a 4K 120hz TV that is actually good in size ("40+) that is probably cheaper than a "27 or so 4k monitor?

>>108621173
your wallet

>>108621173
The fact that you will now have to do it with a TV rather than a monitor. If you have the space for it, is all.

>>108621212
im building a pc and my desk is basically at the side of my current TV (old 1080 sharp aquos "40 lcd), I've always just hooked up a HDMI across to my laptop and either watched animu there or sometimes play stuff I like to play with a controller instead of a keyboard,
So I was wondering if I should just do the same, but I Ignore modern technicalities that might fuck my experience, mind you im currently in a nearly 15 year old laptop and I also plan to replace my TV anyway, and I do play in consoles still so what my current laptop hand handle is very limited obviously, but I know it will obviously behave somewhat different
SO I was wondering if I should get both 4k tv and a monitor, OR just invest in a bigger than average monitor, I do like big screens, specially for single player games, and movies, and Im aiming for a more 1440p experience in gaming but the option is great to have
here's what I got so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yBhg3

>>108621252
budget ultrawide monitor for esports games + a 4k tv for single player games

>>108621173
Neck

>>108621173
Input lag

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ready your wallets, get the founders edition before the scalpers, get yours before the price hike

The way things are going with hardware make gta6 running on switch2 more and more likely.

>>108622127
Doubt this, Rockstar is too far into the development stage to change everything to work with the Switch 2.

>>108622127
And why is that exactly?

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best looking build ive saved.

>>108622572
All the customers have ancient hardware and upgrading costs too much. ->might as well target switch 2

>>108622572
Not that guy, but the Switch 2 owners are a growth opportunity for game devs & publishers.
Prohibitively expensive memory and storage costs are going to hurt next gen PlayStation & Xbox sales.
People are already fed up with the increased cost of new games.

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Pragmata status? Nvidia exclusive just like resident evil 9?

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Can i just make a fake receipt for proof of purchase on a rma claim for a cpu?

>>108622848
im all for nvidia superiority (at this moment) but vendor locked features sets a really bad precedent for the future of pc gaymen

>>108622895
Just ask the store you bought it from to help you. I don't think your plan is going to work out.

>>108622927
I bought it from a guy on leddit.

>>108621173
if its anything but OLED then TVs have insane input lag

>>108622898
They said pragmata path tracing was supposed to be usable on amd before release. Maybe it's still coming to both games but there were just major bugs they couldn't fix in time?
People on older patches in re9 were able to mod in ray regeneration to use with pt weren't they? I feel like I vaguely remember hearing about that

>>108622938
Ask him or I guess just start sending out emails to see if you can get an rma regardless. I've actually never had to return a processor, not sure how that processes goes.

>>108622848
Those 1%s are really quite nice. Once again East Asians prove that the problem stems from W*st*rn developers.

>>108622898
If AMD doesn't put the hardware on their cards to run certain features, what do you expect the developers to do? Just not use it in the sense of fairness?

>>108622848
But why is the 4090 getting MOGGED by the 5080 with no FG and 2x FG?

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>Just tried to play Crimson Desert on my 5060
>Have to play with shitty medium settings due to 8GB of VRAM and both high and ultra caused me to spill over just barely
>DLSS looks weird and like shit compared to FSR 4.1 that I saw on benchmarking videos
Already refunded the game out of shame and regret. I can't believe I chose this junk over a launch day $350 MSRP 9060 XT 16GB since I live near a Micro Center just because it was GeForce. I've always bought 60 series cards and was coming from 1060 and I had no idea how much of a scam Nvidia's low end has become. Every new game I've tried to play it's been a mediocre experience at best. This GPU is the most I've ever regretted a purchase in my whole life.

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>108623063

If I'm exclusively going to be using it in a moderately dark, light-controlled room, is there really any reason to go with WOLED over QD-OLED?

Why doesnt ventoy work in old computers? is it lack of UEFI support or somethign else?

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>>108623063
>PCIe 5.0 x8

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>>108621173
>>108621252
LG C6 48"
or
LG C6H 77-83"
or
LG G6 48"(eu only most likely) / 55"-83"
or
Samsung S95H (NA) S99H (EU) 55-77"
or
S90H EU only if 55-77" are QDOLED - status unsure

these are the only tvs worth buying
these are your TV options for 2026

monitors will be dim compared to full blown TVs

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>>108623125
>is there really any reason to go with WOLED over QD-OLED?
If you're a maximum brightness bro and if the WOLED monitor is DisplayHDR True Black 500 rated vs. a TB400 QD-OLED monitor.
But that higher WOLED brightness ends up diluting non-white colors (R, G, & B subpixels can't get as bright as the dedicated Whites).

>>108623125
WOLED is a meme. Go QDOLED. Any decent electronic store lets you browse their panels and you can see the difference in person. WOLED looks last gen to QD.

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>>108623125
qdoled tv > tandem woled tv > qdoled monitor > woled monitor

woled has worse uniformity, colors, but muh blacks

Are the 5090 prices going down anytime soon? I bought one when it was still 2k+ and i'm hesitating if I should sell it for 3K or keep it but i'm afraid of getting fucked if the prices go down

>>108623723
>sell it for 3K
they're worth 4k now

>>108623723
I don't think it'll get any cheaper at this rate. Even without economic and political instability, Nvidia is making a killing selling workstation Blackwell GPUs for inferencing causing them to deprioritize the production of 5090s and inflating it's price

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>>108623125
make your choice

>>108623732
For new by official retailers yes, but i'm selling in the secondhand market (even though it's new sealed and I have the invoiced), so if I put it at 4K nobody is buying

>>108623736
Aren't they guarranteed to go down once 6090 and 6000 series get released? I'm just unsure when exactly they're going to release it

>>108623740
put it up for sale for 4k, eventually the price is going to get there because they are not making new ones

>>108623740
>but i'm selling in the secondhand market
It does not matter at all. Well maybe a little. Seriously at the bare minimum you'd get $3500.

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>>108623478
>actually wanting HDR
maybe if you're a streamer using the pc with a spotlight burning your retinas constantly, or like Dr Disrespect gaming with literal giant sunglasses on, sure. Makes sense for them.

Myself? i play in a black room, hdr is awful.

>>108623752
>>Aren't they guarranteed to go down once 6090 and 6000 series get released?
lol no the 4090 went up in price too. The only time it was cheap was like the literal week before the 5090 launched and retards on facebook were selling theirs for $1k so they could try and buy one of the 58 5090s available at launch.

Do not expect the 5090 to ever sell for less than its MSRP

>>108623779
>Do not expect the 5090 to ever sell for less than its MSRP
Yeah I mean it's higher than MSRP right now and i'm just scared it goes back to MSRP too early
I have some doubt about people really spending 4K on a 5090, idk if people would really buy it at this pricepoint

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>>108623799
>>I have some doubt about people really spending 4K on a 5090
you do?
people that buy a 5090 don't care how much they cost
you'll see just list it
which 5090 is it

>>108623752
Maybe temporarily

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>>108623737

>>108623799
>I have some doubt about people really spending 4K on a 5090

They put it on Klarna and dont pay the bill

>>108621131
>>108621144
Couldn't respond earlier. Upgraded some parts slightly, including a better motherboard, so for local prices it's looking like this:
>1660S -> ~$883
>2060S -> ~978
>2070 -> ~$950
>RX6650XT -> ~$1010
>RX7600 -> ~$1036

>>108623772
>Myself? i play in a black room, hdr is awful.
are you actually retarded???? if content is overly bright then its not HDR lmaoooo

>>108624215
RTX 2070, RDNA 1/2/3 with 8gb is full on nigger hell

>>108623752
6090 will have 48gb of vram, cost $2999 MSRP, and be about 30% faster

you could buy a 24gb 6080 for $1499 and it will perform around the 5090, or if youre too poor the 6070ti 16gb for $999 should have you satisfied

>>108624290
>tells him to take a slower card because of brandwhoring
yikes

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>>108624274
It's a poorfag cope. Even /g/'s resident CRT & Plasma TV schizo took the OLED monitor pill. It's over.

>>108624307
That's not brandwhoring that's just the truth
2070 and 2060 super are the only cards on that list actually still usable today

>>108624353
kill yourself nigger

>>108624368
You're a fucking tard. I actually have at least one of every gpu on his list available to me and know for a fact the 6650xt and 7600 fucking sucked ass on release, and to this day continue to just suck ass even harder. Even just from a raw performance view ~10% isn't worth the $60-80 if you're poor as shit in some third world hell hole.

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>>108624353
You're biased.
>2070 and 2060 super are
Weaker than the 6650 XT & RX 7600, they're about as performant as a regular RX 6600 @ native performance.
You'd have a point if the guy had an option to buy the 2070 Super at similar prices.
>But DLSS
That's a decision he'd have to make. DLSS would have to consistently provide over 20% performance improvement to justify getting the 2070.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2070.c3252

To this third worlder >>108624215 I'd avoid the RX 7600. RDNA3 having buggy chips isn't a meme.

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tandem woled looks real fucking bad ngl

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>>108624318
I WILL buy a S99H 77" tv and I WILL be happy

ah yeah
>buggy hardware
>hiding behind randomized filenames
i see posting is restored by now

>>108624420
>I'd avoid the RX 7600. RDNA3 having buggy chips isn't a meme.
yes it is???

t. 7800xt since launch with no issues

When will the new 5800x3d be available?

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>>108624514
You didn't play test every single game.
Meanwhile, there are plenty of RX 7000 card owners having to go through their humiliation rituals of down clocking their RX 7000's GPU boost frequency to stop the display drivers from crashing.
That is one of the most commonly shared resolution btw.

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weekend starting hot
three new kills

ah yes, the spokesman of amdfags that uses blue and green hardware

New Preview Update Bitchez
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/04/17/releasing-windows-11-builds-26100-8313-and-26200-8313-to-the-release-preview-channel/

>>108624587
AMD and ASRock decided it's better to provide replacement chips and boards while keeping the failure points a secret.

>>108624587
Are they ever going to like fix the issue or at least admit something?

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what thermals would I get

>>108625467
Idles of 40, highs of 90.

>>108625467
Don't buy be quiet air coolers for AMD CPUs if you're prioritizing price/performance.
The coldplate design favors Intel IHS, it's not worth the money for Ryzen CPUs.
They addressed this weakness with their new AIOs.
https://youtu.be/ltNDbgDDLPs?t=805

>>108625543
AMD's IHS generally leaves a lot to be desired, desu.

>>108625593
IHS?

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>>108625623
Integrated Heat Spreader.
These companies are used to the time Intel CPUs were more popular.
People at Thermalright did very well with their designs.

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>>108625525
Ok, I'd like cooler than that. What can I do to keep temps under load closer to 70? I want lowest temps, it's OK if it gets hot

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>>108625623
Block of metal that goes atop the die to spread the heat over a larger surface area so it can transfer to the cooler.

AMD's IHSs are pretty shit, but never bad enough to be a problem, just worse than they should be.
Derbauher offers various AM5 CPUs with the lid removed, and they're significantly cooler.

>>108625661
You might have to undervolt the CPU or at least set stricter thermal limits (80°C max in the BIOS).
Thermalright Phantom Spirit is the better value cooler, but their fans aren't as nice as the ones included in be Quiet coolers.
AIOs are more popular in DIY, there are not many good alternatives to those air coolers.
You could just go full retard and buy the Noctua D15 G2 if you need an air cooler (and if your case/motherboard can fit that thing).

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>>108625661
I have a 420mm Silent Loop 3 on my 9800X3D.
Idle is about 45c, and if I run furmark's CPU Burner, it gets up to 83 after the fan curve ramps up and the thermals stabilise.
Normal gaming experience has it around 60-70, depending on the game. (But I do run my fans nice and quiet.)

Regardless of the set-up, you're always going to see spikes unless you run your fans consistently at max, which obviously nobody does. It's just how things are with AM5. The bottleneck seems to be the IHS as others have said. But, fixing that is pretty sketchy, expensive and just generally not worth it.

>>108625736
Thanks. Perhaps I'll go with liquid cooling if that's what it takes to stay out of the 90s. I'm spoiled, my only build is my i5-7600K from 2017, which literally never goes above 70 with my CRYORIG H7. I really like keeping things cool.

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Does m.2 PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 make a difference if I'm just gaming?

>>108625856
No.
But I wouldn't buy a new PCIe 3.0 NVMe unless it's extremely cheap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl8wXT8F3W4

>>108625856
https://www.techspot.com/article/3023-ssd-gaming-comparison-load-times/

Buy pcie4 anyways though unless you find some crazy deal somewhere

>>108625856
they hardly make 3.0 drives anymore they're mostly 4.0. the 4.0 drive will run more efficient.

why the fuck does 5080 not have 24gb vram...

>>108625834
CPUs aren't rly designed to leave performance on the table like that anymore. Similar to GPUs, they now keep applying various turbos until they reach a certain temperature.
You can modify some of this behavior in BIOS, like the maximum temperature.

>>108626036
I don't even know why they advertise base clock anymore because it 99% of the time it will do boost clock.

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how long are the jannies going to let this tranny infect this board?

>>108626026
for market segmentation.

>>108626082
boost clock is usually not achieved on all cores or for prolonged periods.

>>108625661
they're designed to park at 90, you'd have to limit it in BIOS if you wanted it to run cooler. this isn't the tech of the early 2000's.

What could be causing my windows explorer to lag? cpu/ram issues, or dust accumulation? I don't have any applications open, but it's kinda laggy when I browse my folders and files.

>>108626492
does this happen after cold boots? sometimes drivers fail to initialize, or your hardware is too cold.

>>108626504
I don't ever turn my pc off, I just put it to sleep. This started happening a few days ago, so I guess I'll try using system restore and see if it works.

I'm starting to realize that it was a bad idea to upgrade to windows 11 when I only have 16gb of ddr4...

>>108626504
Restarting fixed this shit.
Maybe I should shut down my pc every now and then...

>>108626828
>Restarting fixed this shit.
That's like 90% of random tech issues

>>108626871
lesson learned

>>108626026
Because it's selling just fine without the extra VRAM; it's always about the bottom line.

>>108626828
TURN IT OFF AND ON AGAIN
LEARN THIS LESSON OLD YOUNG MAN

>>108626828
That's the pain of not having ECC ram

You guys think the memory shortage is going to cuck the amount of ram the next generation of GPUs get, or are they just going to make them really expensive?

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>>108627203
>or are they just going to make them really expensive?

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>>108626438
Maoam niggas utterly broke the general mfs

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>>108615110
>TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut
Why no MX-7

>>108627291
>Maoam niggas
what does that even mean

>>108627292
MX-7 is newer than the last time the OP was updated.
OP hasn't been updated because each time it is that Nico faggot keeps deleting it all and using his AMD template.

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>>108627306
Maoam, nigga.

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>>108627308
>>108627323

>>108627292
Guess it should be
I used a version from October or November and then spent like 20 seconds making quick edits.
Needs a total rework in general

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>>108627306
You don't like Maoam?

>>108627313
>>108627354
I've never heard of this candy that sounds like islander nonsense. Would a maoam nigga be more like swedish fish niggers or a now-and-later nigger?

>>108627203
>cuck the amount of ram the next generation of GPUs get, or are they just going to make them really expensive
They'll do both if possible. Corporations are not our friends.

>>108627203
both, and they'll use the new nvidia tech as an excuse

>>108627648
How will AMD do that?

>>108626026
Have you not heard about the RAM shortage
And do you really think Nvidia didn't know it was coming

>>108627660
They'll just price their cards $100-$200 below nvidia's

>>108626026
The same reason the 3080 didn't have 20gb as planned

>>108627203
there are 2 options.
1. next generation is DOA because consoles are significantly increasing their RAM.
2. next generation is competitive because they increase RAM to match the consoles.
(you still don't need more than 8GB at the moment, or for 1080p going forward, and it will last for a long time still because any developer making a game worth playing will target all the poorfags with 8GB 60 class GPUs)

>>108627661
nobody knew it was coming, it was never real, it was a bunch of retards panic buying because OpenAI made a fake deal for "60% of the world's RAM" which was never going to happen, and hasn't happened.

>>108615548
Lie
I have my 5070 ti for 6 months now, not a single crash or issue so far

>>108616260
Check op amd shilling intel smearing - skip next post calling other brands schizos scroll more-
Amd better
Amd this
Amd that
Close thread without contributing or reading further

>>108621173
Gigantic input lag

>>108627203
8GB (on AMD/Intel) is unironically enough now if you use Linux.

>>108627203
next gen, both for cpus and gpus, is literally compromised, it's going to suck, there's no way around it, zen 6, 60 series, rdna5, will all be far more expensive than they are worth it, it's going to be the easiest skip generation ever, meanwhile zen 7, 70 series and rdna6 look great for many different reasons

>>108628453
>He's going to wait into the 2030s

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Can i get some help with my gaming PC build? Im from australia and my budget is about $5k AUD
I want to keep the build as WHITE as possible. I may upgrade to a 5090 down the road any suggestions for downgrades

>>108628877
>9950X3D
Don't get this. Either get the 9950X3D2 or the 9800X3D/9850X3D.
9950's extra cores make no difference in gaming. The X3D2 has dual cache, but there's almost certainly no improvement in gaming over the 9800X3D/9850X3D.
So, save money, get a 9800X3D, unless you're specifically doing workstation stuff that will benefit from the extra cores.
>Ryujinn III
Yeah the cooler works, but you're spending about $200 on the ROG Tax for no reason. I don't know any white CPU AIOs out there, but there's some, for sure. I think the Lian Li Galahad comes in white and probably scores better and is cheaper than the Ryujin.
>Ripjaws
RAM situation sucks, but they're good. Nice balance of latency and transfer rate. If you consider other options 6000/CL36 is a nice spot. 6400/CL32 is better, but there's not a lot in it and it's a big price jump.
>990 EVO
Ehhh. It's not really a gen 5 drive. It's a "Hybrid". If you want an actual gen 5 get a Crucial T705, or an SN8100. But, in reality a gen 4 is more than enough for literally everyone, so just save yourself a bit of money and get a gen 4. But it's a similar situation to RAM where shit is all priced weird right now.
>Antec C5
Kinda weird choice. I guess you're doing an oreo build given it's black. The Flux is nicer and comes with more fans. But the C5 isn't bad. If you really want the fishtank look, you really want the Hyte Y70 rather than the knock-offs. The Y70 comes in "Panda" which is where the inside is black, but the casing is white, and that'd probably suit the build better.
>Strix PSU
ROG Tax strikes again. PSUs are weird in that the actual unit itself is made by like 3 companies and then everyone puts their own box on it and charges a certain percentage more. I'd really just go for the original PSU maker like seasonic or whoever rather than ASUS's rebadging. 1000W is overkill for your build as is, but is fine for a 5090.

>>108628877
>>108629028
Also to address the elephant in the room.
>9070XT
Ehh... It's pretty hotly debated which is better between this and the 5070Ti. But, I think it's a very odd choice to go with a 9950X3D if you're only going to have a 9070XT. You'd be much better off cheaping in other areas to get a 5080, or even 5090.

GPU will make the biggest difference in gaming. So, it should be where you make no compromises compared to the rest of your system.

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>>108629036
thanks for your suggestion, i've updated the build now. I chose ROG initially because It was the only brand i knew.

such an obvious shill, kys

>>108629036
>9950X3D
that's not a gaming choice but a hybrid build, the extra cores don't achieve anything for gaming, they're only useful for productivity tasks. totally fine to pair that with any gpu

>>108629179
>Paying 60% more for 20% more performance and the same amount of VRAM
I suspect this may be a shill samefagging but if this is real please don't do this holy shit. Even if you want more performance in just a year or less when the next generations come out you'll almost be able to buy a card faster than the 5080 with more VRAM for way less than that.

>>108629238
>in just a year or less
Thats not going to happen. Two years minimal and the price may be shocking. There is no indication things will be more affordable.

>>108629253
RDNA 5 is already leaked multiple times to be mid 2027, nvidia might be late and could be at the end of the year or early 2028 CES

>>108629308
Only 5 percent of buyers care about AMD. I do hope they make something amazing, but it will take a three generation leap overnight in features and double the current performance for me to even consider them, which isn't likely.

>>108629308
>RDNA 5 is already leaked multiple times to be inferior to Nvidia's generation that year, like always
More news at 11

>>108629308
There's no way they'll risk releasing before Nvidia and getting the rug pulled from under them by Nvidia offering competitive price/perf from fully knowing amd's lineup ahead of time

>>108629308
It doesn't matter at this point because literally nobody cares about amd. I can see intel being more successful than them over the next decade especially on the tech front since intel has consistently had better tech and features in their gpu compared to amd which are lacking features that intel had since the first arc card launched. Digital foundry talked about this in their recent direct with regards to some ray tracing features. Amd won't support them till rdna 5 while intel arc has had these features for years, and nvidia has too of course.

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is this the ultimate midrange build
can't decide on a mobo though, what's the bare minimum here
gpu is going to be purchased used btw

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>>108628268

>>108630428
Personally would go for ryzen over intel because even though you can upgrade to 13 and 14 series on the same motherboard, you'll be holding them back with ddr4 so it's kind of a half assed upgrade when/if you do eventually make that upgrade. Even though ddr5 is expensive as fuck I'd still buy it just because it will last a long time and if you go with like a ryzen 7500f you can eventually upgrade to a 10800x3d or something and you wont need to change your ram to get the best out of it.

If you end up getting a 3080 ti make sure to undervolt the fuck out of it. Losing 5 fps but lowering your wattage by 100w is worth it. Also why do you need 10 fans for a matx case?

>>108628268
I have it for a year now. Testing new games almost every day and still waiting for those rumored crashes. Could it be a skill issue?
Same with AsRock mobos. I knew how not to fry my CPU (leave PBO Scalar at 1). Redditors are retards.

>>108626026
Because I told you so and that it wouldn't be faster than the 4090 long before the 5080 was released, you wishful thinkers, as usual, wouldn't believe me. Then I told you that there would never be a super with more VRAM, pointing out the 4080 'super', also to no avail. You guys have no sense of realism, you are childish minds.

>>108630501
yeah, ddr5 could be more futureproof, but the end cost is massively higher here
that spare money is what's going to allow my budget to get that 3080ti, so may as well stay at ddr4
intel vs ryzen really depends on mobo, still searching models, 12600kf seems to trade blows with 5800x/5900x, but it's currently cheaper than even 5700x here
>Also why do you need 10 fans for a matx case?
been reading that the best airflow fan configuration for this case should be something like
>3 intake bottom, 2 exhaust top (top front/mid), 1 intake top (rear), 1 intake rear, side exhaust
cheapening out by getting the base p12 (shouldn't really need more than their maximum ~1800 rpm, hopefully?), so may as well go full retard

>>108624540
Two more weeks would be a safe guess.

>>108624300
> 6090 will have 48gb of vram, cost $2999 MSRP, and be about 30% faster
3k would be worth double the VRAM of my 4090 and 60% more raw performance.
In reality I won't ever get my hands on one for under €4,500 or even €5,000 here.

>>108623737
I choose NOLED.

>>108630653
P12s are high pressure fans. You don't need a lot of them to have good airflow even in cases with restricted airflow. The 5 pack is more than enough for 3 intakes and 2 exhausts. You'd be fine with even one less intake or exhaust. Tell chatgpt the fans you have, their configuration, and your case and it'll give you a fan curve for the pressure you require and noise levels.

>>108623478
Why even care about the display tech as long as you still get a tiny 27"? That's peasant class display size nowadays.
32", 34", 40" are required for 4k or 5k2k to make any sense.

>>108623046
It isn't though.

>>108622573
Prolly worst performance. Why not just build mockups if it doesn't matter anyway?

>>108630762
thanks for the insight, might stick with a single 5-pack then

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>>108631168
I only use shit tier laptops so I might get one in the future, right now my i5-1235u does the job tho
this will compete with whatever replaces mendocino on AMD side, we don't know yet what it'll be

pragmata status?

>>108631829
>a single

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I'm not sure if this is the right thread, but my 2018 deathadder is about to kick the bucket.
What mouse do I get now?
I barely play on my pc, if anything it's maybe civ 5. I mostly use my pc to do work, such as blender.

>>108632200
Another deathadder

>>108632296
S-should I? It'd be my third. Their lifetime seems to be about 7 years before they start crapping themselves into double-clicking on every other click.

I have a corsair harpoon that's made it about a decade now

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>>108630428
I give up
good lga1700 motherboards does not exist in this piece of shit country anymore
updated picrel is going to end up more expensive than a 12600k build would have been, and this motherboard may even be overkill
but this is meant to last a few years anyway, might even skip all the way to am6's eol
going to start purchasing the obvious parts right now, still open to suggestions though

>>108632955
Just get a h610 board, you dont need a z690 or b660 for a 12600kf

>>108632955
Just use a cheaper lga 1700 board

>>108631879
No Radeon support for PT

is seagate actually reliable (in terms of external HDDs)? im partial to WD since my current 3TD is 11 years old but seagate is cheap

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>>108632999
>>108633109
are you guys sure? been reading the other way around, that I should avoid h610 or b760 because they have terrible vrm, enough to experience actually noticeable throttling with a 12600kf
>GIGABYTE B760M D3HP DDR4
this seems to be the only viable option that has a modicum of vrm/thermal solution, yet still looks so inferior compared to the ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS
everything else are either worse or ddr5
or I am just babbling bullshit

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>>108631879
At least Radeon doesn't crash in Wuthering Waves like Nvidia

>>108633513
Oh nah. I was crashing and getting shitty FPS in that game with my 9070XT.
Completely fixed when I upgraded to a 5060Ti.

>>108632200
corsair ironclaw, its slightly bigger than a deathadder, more comfortable to use, and the driver for it is less obnoxious and annoying to deal with than the Razer malware. Corsair have a one-size-fits-all driver for all its pc-hardware.

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>>108633563
Why you lie? Nvidia pretty much crash nonstop in UE4 games. AMD doesn't have this problem.

>>108630739
>In reality I won't ever get my hands on one for under €4,500 or even €5,000 here.
This. I expect a bunch of 5090s to come onto the market at around that time though. The 5090s will still be priced at 4,000$ american though.

How exactly is nvidia supposed to launch a product with a lower msrp than what they're previous product is selling for with a straight face?

The 60 series will be the biggest paper launch we've seen yet.

>>108633508
Maybe go a little bit higher than whatever that is but you don't necessarily need a z690/z790 board for an i5.
Also you never said where you were but if you're in the United States and you're having to buy the ram (vs reusing old ddr4) just go ddr5. Pricing is too close to be worth fucking around, and that way you could just get a nice second hand z690 board for $40-$80 and side step the whole vrm issue

>>108633714
I'm not lying.
Upgrading to a 5060Ti from a 9070XT fixed all the weird little issues I was having and increased the FPS I was getting.

>>108633779
>Swapping to a gpu that's like 60% faster increased my performance
wow, amazing stuff

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>108633563
>108633779
Post proof you ever owned a 9070 xt and proof that you now have a 5060 ti. You won't because you're a lying little nvidijeet nigger shitposting FUD garbage. The reality is it's nvidia that has bizarre stuttering issues on various Unreal Engine games.
Kill yourself

>>108633796
I dunno if the 5060Ti is 60% faster than the 9070XT, but it's definitely a better and more stable card.

>>108633779
>>108633796
wait I read that wrong, you're just trolling nico troon, I see now