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Daily dose edition

Previous: >>108592553

>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)

>Learn about MX-type switches ("mechanical keyboard switches")
https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guide
https://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviews
https://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves

>Split and non-standard layout resources
https://compare.splitkb.com
https://keyboard-design.com

>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?
https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)

>Practice typing
https://monkeytype.com
https://www.keybr.com
https://thetypingcat.com
https://play.typeracer.com

>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not ideal
https://rentry.org/mkg_backlight
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tranny coded hobby
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>>108619797
h-huh?
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>>108619819
TRANNY
CODED
HOBBY
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>>108619856
it isn't my hobby. i don't give a shit about lube or thockiness and i'm not spending $400 on a case/pcb

i just want something nice to type on for the next 5-10 years
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>>108619856
right Black at you
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>"What is, is, and what is not, is not." - Parmenides of Elea
Engineered without compromise and without continuity, Ontos proposes an immutable order of the real, a unity that does not admit alterations.
>"Das Nichts selbst nichtet." - Heidegger
With Ontos, the nothing is made visible from three distances: far away, regular usage distance, and up-close.
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>>108613147
I've got a AliExpress 3d printed holy60 clone case. Sound is fine, no place to store a battery for wireless so it's taped to the pcb and it gets dusty in the gaps.
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well?
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>>108620233
It's no longer 2010, you don't have to pick from blue/red/brown anymore.
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>>108619703
Thanks, doc.
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>>108620233
neither
that shitty transparent top housing always sounds like ass
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>>108616789
I have a keychron and it's print screen by default
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>>108620233
literally anything else

go to milktooth and throw a dart at your monitor and it will be better a better choice
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>>108620233
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fucking hell
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>price says "from $7"
>click in
>base price is $60+
>the $7 price is a space bar or some other single key
i fucking hate this site
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>>108620666
>buy something
>mfw that shipping price
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>>108620247
Yeah you can buy baby milky cumdrop panda clear thocky wocky box switches that are rated at 40 million clicks but probably leave the factory tested at 1,000
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>>108620247
>red switch
>......
>the same exact red switch but it's different colors and called something different and made by some random company
>*pogface* I'll preorder 200!
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>>108617310
I replaced the del key, I think it's better now
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>>108620740
>>108620757
You can literally get better switches from gateron which is who makes the switches shown in that chart. No excuse to be a basic bitch these days.
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>>108620784
name one
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>>108620740
there is no point in getting a mechanical keyboard if you are going to use the shitty stock red/brown/blue switches, brainlet newfag. just get a membrane keyboard for 20$ at this point and use it until it malfunctions after a few years and then get a new one. nothing wrong with this and the typing feel would be better compared to some basic mechanical keyboard with shitty stock switches
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>>108620868
Go on milktooth then filter by "gateron". Now fuck off.
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>>108620868
ink v2
oil kings
type r
baby kangaroo
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>>108620894
uh oh buyers remorse from buying every switch to nitpick
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>>108620918
sorry I don't respond to people who type on cherry mx switches
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Should I get Gateron G Pro 3.0 Yellows to replace my keeb's Gateron KS-9 Yellow Pro (G Pro 1.0???)
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I'm pretty happy with how my keychron V6 max feels, I got red switches
Here's hoping mine doesn't immediately die
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>>108620666
your fault for holding delusional expectations
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>>108620891
based as fuck
either man up and get the best or buy modded Cherries
nothing in between.
>>108620970
now that's premium cope
modded Cherries are the gold standard
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>>108620993
get the Fades
better internals, polished stem
mogs the fuck out of G Pro Yellow Milky whatever
so say we all.
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>>108620868
oil kings
type Rs
melodics

one for each category to infinitely mog your shitty starter pokemon switches
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My friend asked me "what for? " after saying that I use 10fastfingers to increase my wpm. I had no idea how to respond.
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>>108621264
"why not?" is the only answer you need.
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>>108621174
Fades mog Oil Kangs
it's not 2022 anymore
Baby Kangaroo 2.0s are a better pick for casuals
the Type R is an acquired taste
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>>108621302
im not a linearfag so I wouldn't know. i just know everyone raved about oil kings. linears are all the same shit to me.

i stand by type rs and melodics being some of the best shit gateron has ever made
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>>108621270
/thread
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>>108621264
Lower delay -> higher feedback -> more productivity through faster iteration.
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>>108621264
>I want to get better at touch typing because I'm not a smoothbrained tiktok addict like you who can't see the fucking obvious you fucking retard
no really
why do you have such braindead friends to begin with
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damn the Outemu Switch Silent Lemon V3 was dirt ass cheap on ali
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Something similar to the space series from graystudio?
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>>108621138
Way to miss the point, retard.

The point is the prices in their product listing don't match the main product sold or the picture of the product they're advertising. It also breaks sorting by price, so if you're looking for cheap base kits, it's impossible.
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actuating MX Blaecks
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why is 75% more popular than 80%?
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>>108622880
because it's the better form factor
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I've got some Kailh Box Pinks
How do Gateron Melodics differ from the click bar Box switches?
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Do Cherry MX keycaps work on Gateron switches?
Just got a Keychron v5 max (96%). Looking to get some south-facing shinethrough caps.
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>>108622880
most custom mech boards are 80% TKLs anon
it's 80%/60%/65% territory
75s are barely above 40s
>>108623790
check the reviews
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>buy a set of metal keycaps
>so fucking heavy they keep triggering my spacebar

I thought 57g would have been tough enough but it wont fucking recover and stays mashed down, this is bullshit.
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>>108624780
that's what you get for straying from ABS
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>>108624879
yeah but heavy dull sound good to brain tho
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Looking for an metal hotswap TKL that supports VIA. Barebones kit is fine. But needs at least the case and PCB.

I found these. All are aluminium unless otherwise noted. Did I forget any decent ones?
>WOBKEY Crush80 Reboot Pro: $159-$169
>Evoworks Evo80: $169.99
>MK x WOBKEY Crush80 Reboot: $175
>Keychron Lemokey L4: $184.99 ($204.99 with switches/caps)
>Neo80 Cu (brass): $266.99
There were some others (MCHOSE GX87, Keychron Q3/Pro/Max) but they're either sold out or sold out of any decent color.
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>>108624886
use chonky PBT caps
the 1.7mm variety
pair it with the Y2 or Bad Sweetheart for maximum dull
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>>108623790
Yes. 99% of keycap sets available will be MX compatible; meaning cherry, gateron, and every other switch manufacturer these days.
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>>108624906
Whether it matters to you or not, most of those have F13 keys so the Esc/F-keys are squeezed together more than on a traditional keyboard. Just something to pay attention to. I have a Monsgeek M3 for my TKL which is metal + hotswap + VIA, but apparently they discontinued that model because these companies are FOTM retarded.
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looking for suggestions for a new keyboard
>hard requirements
low profile
hotswappable switches. don't need support for other switches just easy to replace a broken one
2.4ghz dongle and bluetooth support
ability to switch between multiple paired devices. at least 2, preferably 3
reprogrammable with via or proprietary via alternative, need hold capslock > fn and ijkl arrow keys
75% layout
>would also like
volume knob with mute
linear switches
pbt keycaps
switching between devices using keys instead of a physical switch (keychron)
magnetic switches as long as the device is properly shielded. sometimes i put my keyboard on my laptop due to limited desk space and the magnets in the lid will cause my current keychron q1 to fuck up
sounds nice
isn't a fucking hassle to take apart for cleaning / stab lubing
comes in black
plastic case or at least thin metal. my keychron q1 is too fucking heavy
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>>108627647
oh i forgot one more thing for the requirements
fuck the weird sleep mode on keychron where i have to press space and then start typing
just let me type normally to wake it up
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>>108626411
great grandpa was a power sander
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Still haven't found anything better than this. Out of production and my keys are getting really bad with time, been 13 years... Nothing like it found.
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>>108624906
out of all of those, id say evo80 if you just want prebuilt

>>108627647
>low profile
lol
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>>108619703
I kinda like the Tony’s Chocolonely look but that looks like it’s just gonna collect dust bunnies in weird places. What’s it look like with an actual keyboard inside?
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>>108626411
Nice color scheme, but how do you tell the × key from the × key?
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>>108628402
Not my board, just a cool looking pic.
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>>108628402
no need
that's prt/scr/pause
doesn't matter what the keycap says
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>>108628536
Oh
I’m a Mac guy and those three keys are something I need to look at my keyboard layout’s cheat sheet for when I plug my keyboard into a Windows or Linux machine
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how do you know the pcb you're getting from chink manufacturer #841931 isn't loaded with spyware? at least with logitech there's a western country behind it you can go after and who ostensibly has an interest in not ruining their reputation
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Are there any companies that make keyboard bases where it's just the PCB and metal frame and you put your own switches and keycaps on it?
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>>108628689
yeah, most of them

knock yourself out
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
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>>108628106
What do you like about it? I don't loke the lack of context menu key
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>>108628630
via is standard and if you’re paranoid you can flash it yourself
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Speaking of VIA, am I the only one that's pissed at the fact shit like VIA or Keychron Launcher is online-only? There's zero reason not to release them as standalone Electron apps that can run offline, where you don't need to count on your browser not randomly deleting it's cache for you to be able to configure your shit, yet everyone insists on making them online-only web apps. I hate this trend so much.

Compare that to something like Vial that has a Python GUI program available for Windows, macOS and Linux, with Windows having a portable option and with the only option on Linux being AppImage so that it's completely distro agnostic. Download it once, as long as the software is on your machine you can use it indefinitely, even after the manufacturer goes out of business and shuts down their proprietary web app.

Why are keyboard manufacturers so fucking allergic to this concept of owning your hardware as well as software without the need of what's essentially always-online DRM to use the product you've paid for?
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>Genesis Thor 300 TKL
switches fail within a year of purchase
>some HyperX
switches fail within a year of purchase
>Keychron V3
massive debounce problems and double-clicking in 6 months
reseating doesn't help
updating firmware and setting debounce timer to 30ms doesn't help

I wish someone made a wireless membrane keyboard with high-profile key caps so that I could buy something actually reliable
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>>108629150
Fn+PrintScreen can be used for context menu, not that I ever use it.
I like the travel distance of the keys, the feeling of the keys, the palm rest, the layout of the keys.

The only way I don't like is the the F1-F12 characters don't light up by the backlight and that Logitech made it so you can't hold W+shift and press space at the same time (I hear it was intentionally to gimp it as a gaming keyboard, for whatever reason).
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>>108629714
that's why I use nothing but proprietary software that installs once and doesn't need the internet to work forever
>muh open source
cope
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>>108630361
it's time to save up for R2 of Geon's next bangers
be sure to source the Venom MX PCB in the meantime
it'll be the best thing ever, fuck wireless and membrane it's time to man up
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MX Blacks break-in status?
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>>108631303
buckbroken
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boomers deserve to be keelhauled
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>EC kit confirmed for +84 TKL
TopreCHADS win again
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I'm bored with 100% and TKL. I might look into a custom split board just to feel something, even if it ends up being disgust.
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>>108632785
>I'm bored with 100% and TKL
That's because they're bland form factors
65%chads win again
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>>108619703
Does the snake skin pattern promote healing of my illnesses, or do I need authentic snake oil for that?
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Looking for a 75-80%, hotswappable, linear switches (irrelevant I'll just swap them to milky yellows anyway), volume knob and a screen with gif displaying capacity. I would ask for extra macro keys on the left too but I don't think a keyboard with all that even exists.
Maybe I should just settle for RK L75, it's too bad that it doesn't have a screen though... RK M70 would be cool if not for the lack of function keys.

man there's so much shit to comb through, anyone knows a similar keyboard like that?
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>>108632785
get an F1 and build it with Topre or Alps
>but I'm BORED
fucking scrub
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>>108632819
68% mogs
R5 Fn near the right thumb > R4 Fn above the right arrow
fucking trannies
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>>108632848
just get the Zoom75 TIGA or the AULA F75 Max or the BlackWidow V4 Pro
they all fit the bill
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>>108633014
Guessing that's a no on the left side macro buttons? I figured as much. The Epochmaker AULA F75 Max is the only one of the 3 I can find here, excluding razer I didn't even look that one up.
I will now debate whether I want the macros of RK L75 or the screen of AULA, thanks
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are magnetic switches a meme
should I even bother with them
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>>108632930
>Topre
Hmm maybe since I haven't tried them yet.
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>>108633719
get the bottom case cast in resin/PC/PEI/whatever for peak F1 Topre
so fucking hot
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i have a cheap-ish (??) branded mkb that i got as a FREE* upgrade with a prebuilt pc i bought about 18 months ago and it's already showing wear and tear
the space bar and r key sometimes don't work and sometimes inputs double keys instead
anything i can do to fix them or what keyboard should i buy instead?
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>>108633938
depends if the keyboard has mechanical switches and if it supports hotswap, if it does then just replace the faulty switches it's a simple fix on the condition that the switches are the problem and not the board
if it's not then then throw it out, unless you have soldering knowledge and equipment then it's fucked
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>>108633938
rainy75
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>>108634025
i only fw full size
the 100%er the better
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>>108634039
there is literally no decent full size prebuilt on the market so I have no recommendation then
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>>108634039
you don't need a numpad
you think you do, but you don't
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>>108634046
there's this piece of shit
>https://clickclack.io/collections/new-arrival/products/in-stock-intro-s100-fully-assembled-mechanical-keyboard
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>>108634144
fuck that shit
i looked up the model to see what i "saved" by getting it FREE* and i can get almost 3 more failed units at full price
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/store/item/kb-161-302
i'll probably just go amazon and get some chinkshit for even cheaper
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>>108634183
ok /mkg/ which do you hate less
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRNKTCM?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF3VGQFL?th=1
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Help me

AAAAAA
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>>108634450
>$125 in feb 2024
>$150 in feb 2025
>$189 now
So glad the tariffs didn't affect Made In America products :)
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>>108634334
If I had to use one of these, then the 2nd
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>>108634578
thanks, at least if it's as cheaply made as my current one then the switches are swappable and even comes with some spares
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>>108620778
Still a little off. PgUp definitely wrong for its row, not sure about PgDn. It's unusual for PgUp/PgDn to fit R3/R4, usually the alternates available in a kit are for R2/R3.
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What switches are you guys using right now
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anyone else like it when you get thocc'd out by extra creamy long poles?
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>>108635467
I want to actuate your switch haha
I just really like the feel of deep thudding long poles
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>>108635467
Right now it's morandis.
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>>108635467
hmx xinhai and hmx gulf, about to try hmx valerian.
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>>108635467
MX Browns, obviously
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coom/10
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>>108626929
whats the purpose of the f13 key? i dont think ive ever seen a program use it. why not just call it a macro key?
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I fucking hate hipyotech
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>>108635717
more keys = more keycaps
it's literally just an excuse to use hideous artisans
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>>108635781
he is irrelevant
based Alexotos keeps it straight
>doesn't shill wobbleshit like the Morandis
>recommends Cherry switches and stabs
>curates vendors globally which helps newbies
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>>108635467
blue stars
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>https://cannonkeys.com/products/nyawice
>$465
>for a basic bitch alice except extra gay and retarded
who in the hell is going to buy this piece of shit? neo ergos start at $130 lmao. there was a similar alice that kbdfans did that was dog themed and they couldn't sell it. the prebuilt version was on clearance for months for like sub $100. this cutesy tranny shit does not sell as it is and this is a whole other level of jewery
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>>108636134
do you really fucking think there isn't a subset of rich furries in this fucking hobby?
it's right there in the features
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God bless the Chinee for milking degenerates
in the free market, that's the joy of it and the hurt of it.
so say we all.
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Man, it got soggy tits
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>>108633491
Do play twitchy fast paced games? If so then maybe if you've already eliminated other sources of network latency and input lag.
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>>108633491
just get HE switches
worth it for counter strafing in CS or A/D spamming to get on target faster
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I'm trying to find a beige/white keyboard for my set og simple ja r2 keys. I kind of just want to go tried and tested Majestouch, but I'm having a hard time sourcing one.
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>>108636593
Vortex Multix 104 Autumn/Summer (When it's back in stock)



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