>nobody is going to buy these! - /g/https://9to5mac.com/2026/04/16/macbook-neo-sells-out-for-april-as-demand-for-apples-affordable-laptop-outpaces-supply/It's time to admit you were wrong, /g/People wanted a cheaper Macbook, even if you don't like the specs.
>>108621535They should go back 2 more generations with the chip, give it 6gb of ram, call it the Nu MacBook and sell it for $399 (599 euros outside of the US), I want normies to have increasingly worse hardware so that my computer will remain state of the art for as long as possible
>>108621535With the price of everything going up, it's hardly a surprise.Also, what was /g/ wrong about? It's not like this was stupidly overpriced like Vision Pro. There's a lot of people this would be handy laptop for.
coolstill waiting for a newer version with backlit keys
>>108621535I'm more surprised they didn't prepare for a massive demand.It's basically the chromebook killer, and a whole generation of kids will now be captured in the apple ecosystem.
>>108621754you want my iphone chip huh, no its staying in my pocket asshole
>>108621766no wonder ms is panicking and for the first time actually seems to give a shit about windows again
>>108621535>nobody is going to buy these!Only the retards among us thought this. This was always clearly going to do numbers with educational facilities, university students and poor people who bought the dog shit non-pro macbooks in the past.
>>108621781>Only the retards among us thought this.well they were very lewd if they were just a minority
>>108621809>well they were very lewd if they were just a minorityI assume you mean loud, but yes they are. This place is disproportionately retarded and out of touch with reality.
>>108621821yeah sorry meant loud
>>108621781>>108621809Most of the complaints about the Neo are from spiritual (or actual ones idk) children who believe mommy is going to buy them a Macbook but now are only going to get the actual identifiable poverty model rather than the more ambiguous M models where they can lie and gloat about specs.
>>108621754Just get a refurb air, it's cheaper and has backlit keys.
>>108622044It's the cheapest an apple laptop with actual macOS will ever be, so I don't get the whining. It does what a student would want to do with it.It even looks good and it forces other manufacturers to rethink their whole lineups.I don't plan to buy it but I'm happy for the increased competition and that this replaces the abomination that was chromebook.
>>108621535>It's time to admit you were wrong, /g/Wait, wasn't everyone saying this will sell like hotcakes? Didn't Microslop shit their pants when Apple released this? It's an objectively great product for a lot of users. I don't like FagOS but I don't remember anyone here denying that this is Apple pissing on Microsofts Consumer Hardware Corpse.
>>108622084For the younger generation it's never about if it's a good laptop. Just how it's perceived.The Neo will run great for just about anything but it is clear your parents bought you a Neo which signals they just can't throw away $1200+ to get busted or stolen.
Wow, an affordable laptop that heems anything running Windows is selling out? Stop the presses! Apple was right about one thing at least:If you're going to have nonfree garbage in your platform, at least for the nonfree cuck devs on a neverending upgrade treadmill so they maintain their shit software and you don't get pigeonholed into supporting dogshit like M$
>>108621535>apple made a $600 chromebook.>retards are gobbling it up.explain this to me. Is there really nothing more to it than the logo? is the screen at least good?
It chips away ever so slightly at Apple's prestige but it's a good thing for students and people who want a cheap Apple computer to manage all their iDevices left. Releasing something like this when Microsoft is absolutely shitting the bed with Windows was a good play too
>>108621535I considered buying it but no VM support and 8GB RAM.Got a second hand ThinkPad instead.
Not sure why /g/ isn't talking about the supply chain issue here, it's interesting whether you like the laptop or not.The plan was to use their leftover binned A18 Pro SOCs. The neo is selling a lot better than they expected and now they aren't going to have enough chips. Their options are>restart A18 productionprobably not possible, all the fabs are completely booked. Even if it was possible it might not make financial sense>rush to market a new model using the A19 Pronot sure if this can be done quickly enough or if the A19 cost is low enough (slightly different TSMC process and it has an extra 4GB of memory). might be confusing for customers.>raise prices to reduce demandthere's little point in this machine unless it stays well clear of Air pricingThey might be fucked. Will be interesting to see what they do.
>>108622656Wouldn't it have made more sense to buy a MacBook Air instead? Still cheap, but much more powerful than the Neo.
I think people are misunderstanding the purpose of the Neo, it’s almost entirely made out of unsold stock. The reason it’s so easy to disassemble is because basically every part aside from the chassis is from a different product. The main board is from unsold iPhone 16 pros, the keyboard is from unsold magic keyboards (hence the lack of a backlight), and the screens are just 13 inch MacBook screens. The touchpad may or may not have been made for the Neo but considering it’s just a normal touchpad and not the Force Touch they’ve been using for years now they probably just got a deal on them. I say all of this but I don’t think this is a bad thing at all. Taking what would otherwise be ewaste and using it for something useful is great, but the Neo wasn’t ever intended to be a Chromebook killer or a mainstay laptop. Think of it like iPhone 5c, they had unsold stock so they made a quick and easy budget model since even budget Apple crap is still better than a lot of chinesium on the market.
everyone said this would happenit's actually insane Apple made only like 5 million of them anyone could have told them they are going to sell 20 million of these easy
>>108622726>The neo is selling a lot better than they expectedI really cannot see how Apple thought they weren't going to sell so many of these they better hope they have enough when the next college year starts
>>108622794/g/ what would be a better choice?
>>108622794Anyone who really needs that extra power will just buy a prothe neo is like $500 and does everything that people who can only $500 on a laptop need
>>108622913Yeah but what if you need more power but don't want to spend $2k? Then $1k (sometimes $800) for the base Air makes perfect sense.
>>108621535I don't recall thathowever I've heard a thousand times that apple drones will buy dogshit if it has an apple logo on it, does that ring any bells?
They need to keep 8GB the minimum for as long as possible to force Electron app devs to optimize their shit.
I want to buy a macbook pro maybe 14 inch m5. Is the matte screen worth it? How much ram is necessary? I want to use it for music development and other stuff too once I figure out what I can run on it
>>108623260Buy 16 inch better cooling your cpu won't throttle so easily.24-36gb for basic multitasking48+ if you want real multitasking16gb version if you don't make money off your music.
>>108622257>t. freetard that can't afford it
>>108621535There's a world of difference between wanting to buy them and actually being able to buy them.Either Apple increases prices or prices will skyrocket on Ebay first.
macs have:>soldered SSD/RAM/WLANdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 yearsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chipdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replacedoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen timesdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)doesnt exist on 99% of PCs>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcamdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flightsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware acceleratorsdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keysdoesnt exist on 99% of PCs>keyboards with 63.5% failure rateunheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any goodthis list goes on foreverthere's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter booksthey are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
>artificial scarcity
I bought a Mac Mini M4 instead, concerned about performance, and honestly? I was kind of right.Performance wise is nothing to be hopeful about. The only things I found impressive about this little fucker are:-Latest thunderbolt, it's actually reading my external NVMe SSD at higher speeds than the fucking internal storage (but I had to buy a pricey dock for it)-I don't know about adobe apps but so far, Affinity V3 is considerably faster than on my main Windows machine, it feels fucking smooth-Parallels actually runs Windows quite wellThe rest I'm not all that impressed with. Small lags here, small lags there. Not when opening applications but when I'm using them. Browsing specially, outside of Safari, every other browser feels more sluggish. Not just firefox (which is actually a default configuration problem, layout.frame_rate set to -1 makes it much laggier than if you set a fixed framerate) but also practically any chromium based browser as well. I'm willing to bet it's more of a GPU thing than anything else. I can't actually imagine having to deal with a Neo myself. The animations seem to be hardcoded to be shit at high refresh rates as well. I understand this even less. 60hz = snappy animations, but of course, it's 60hz. 120hz = smooth motion sure, but then switching desktops is a sloooow process.
>>108622911Air > Neo
>$600>Chromebook killerYou have no idea how poor the average Chromebook user is.
>>108622911It comes down to whether you'll use the extra power or not. If you will, then yeah, the Air is just better, if you won't, then paying extra for power you won't use because "high number better" is just dumb, stick to the Neo
>>108621535If I was poor, this would be the Laptop I'd buy.>B-but you can buy a cheap 16 GB Windows-Irrelevant. Do you have any idea how SHIT cheap Windows Laptops are? They don't sleep, they warm your bag and drain in 3 hours. When they're on, the battery drains in like 2 hours.>B-but that Intel test where it ran at minimal brightness in super power saving mode and achieved 20 hours of video playback-don't insult yourself. You're not stupid enough to fall for that.Add to that the neverending driver issues and the retarded OEM shitware you have to run to adjust things like the power profile that take 5GB of memory just running in the background and what upside is there to the thing you bought?Is it the shitty not-even-windows-precision-trackpad-compatible trackpad that emulates a mouse wheel when it scrolls? I fucking hate that Apple is the only company that makes decent laptops. This is even more true in the cheap segment now.
>>108621566This won't play out the way you want it to. All that will do is normalize cloud gaming and running more SaaS and fewer and fewer programs for real workstation will be released because that's not where the money is since everyone is running a shitty terminal whose only purpose is to open a web browser.
>>108622391I don't think it hurts Apple's prestige at all as long as their laptops continue to be the best on the market. If they start cutting corners from here, it'll be a different story.
>>108621535>>nobody is going to buy these! - /g/Link to archive posts that said this
>>108623011If you though about power even once the neo was never on the table. You were always choosing between the pro and the air.
I would rather buy the Air but only if it runs Linux someday.
>>108621535How do I run Linux on it?
>>108622391The prestige is in the marketing and is ultimately illusory. The Neo existing doesn't really affect Isaiah in the Design Department who needs a new Pro every year to write emails with. Similarly, the 5C and SE didn't impact the other iPhone models.
>>108621780i want ms to fucking collapse. fuck them and their jeetcode shit. fuck them very much.
>>108621766The corpo world's delusion is so thick Apple didn't even realize how much their competitors' user base hated the competitors' own product.Hopefully Apple learns from this and keeps jeets out.
>>108622726>>108622847all of this just tells me that apple is a competently run tech company and it throws microsoft into sharp relief. now i'm wondering what they'll pull out of their hat next. they have huge cash reserves to play with and just keep making money. this is great because the tech market is aids right now. interesting to watch apple really throw their weight around.
>>108621566>increasingly worse hardware8 hour batterycpu cores faster than anything intel or amd haveactually feels like a premium device and not recycled plastic slop
The new MacBook Neo has shown me how efficient and effective ARM architecture is for a mobile laptop.I really want a Snapdragon now.
>>108621535For fuck sake I wish apple would just buy an advert, it can't cost any more than you're paying pajeets to make these threads.
>>108626799It's not efficient It's just using newer silicon
>>108626912so you're saying new silicon works better? ok, you've convinced me to not buy that secondhand thinkpad i was looking at. now i too am a macfag.
>>108626974Yes, arm isn't innately better, it's just newer
>>108625617>How do I run Linux on it?time will tell
>>108621535all jeets
>>108621754learn to type
>>108625617>How do I run Linux on it?There won't be a troonix to install soon enough.
>>108626799>>108627397When the M1 came out, it was drastically faster than any x86 laptop you could buy while also having better battery life. Many people got the impression that this was mainly due to the use of ARM. x86 offerings have caught up to some degree since then, and some of the power efficiency was down to things like using in-package memory instead of separate modules.
>>108629311literally an N95 from a decade ago destroys your currynigger silicon and all the benchmarks it cheats in with hardware accelerators
>>108629199not on pants on head retarded staggered layout
>>108621535I don't think anybody expected it not to be a success.I still don't like apple.
>>108624895Linux runs just fine on M1 and M2 Silicon. Check out the Asahi Project.
>>108626799>I really want a Snapdragon now.me too but it's not ready yetneeds 2 or 3 more gens
It just proves how bad the economy is when everyone is clamoring around the cheapest option available.
>>108630407>Linux runs just fine on M1 and M2 Silicon.It runs but it's not "just fine" yet. There are issues that have yet to be resolved. It will be years before Linux runs "just fine" on M1, M2, etc.
Haven't been here in years, /g/ still seethes at anything Apple?
I have a 16-inch M5 Macbook Pro and just got one for the hell of it. To be honest never liked iPads because they aren't real computers, but the Macbook Neo is so compelling as something to take along while visiting family and such to check something quick.
>>108632242Yes of course. Its insecurity.
>>108622656>no VM supportit has virtual memoryI wouldn’t want to run normal-sized virtual *machines* on it with only 8 GB of RAM, of course
>>108632265>I have a 16-inch M5 Macbook Pro and just got one for the hell of it.weird
>>108629231THANKYOUBASEDAPPLE
>>108623851>>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)>>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replaceThese are not true on the macbook neo.>>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)I don't believe this is true for the neo's panel.>>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 yearsThe M1 macs released 4 years and 5 months ago, and there doesn't seem to be a groundswell of complaints about dead SSDs.Please update your copypasta to reflect these changes.
>>108635307it’s weird to me too but I suppose a teeny lightweight computer that doesn’t have all your crap on it can be light and refreshingI’m the very happy owner of a beloved 16″ M1 and I’ve been wondering if I could use a fuck-around-and-find-out Mac but the answer’s always been “probably not”If I’m gonna spend money on a new laptop, it’ll be an M5 Pro that does 1000 nits of brightness so I can read stuff on it outside in the sunlight without running Vivid
>>108635565>if i pretend it doesnt happen then it didntbrain dead iNiggers dont complain when their heap of currynigger shit sharts the streetthey just go to the crapple store and bend over and take it up the ass againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuv4TIjk-I
>>108621535literally nobody said these wouldn't sell. they're apple products. they could sell you shit on a stick and you'd eat it up because of the branding.
>>108635896>literally nobody said these wouldn't sell.stop lying. people said only schools would buy them and not the general public and you know it.
>>108636539sorry i can't hear you through the shit on a stick you have in your mouth