oh no no no no no archsissies not like this
>>108622213what did the project do to break a rule about respect?
>>108622249Arch is bigtech.
>>108622249not accepting pull requests from troons who want to add xwayland shit into xlibre
Noone has ever said why u would use this over wayland
>>108622303for real?
never seen an os crash out the way arch linux has
>>108622314some people just dont like taking cock up the ass, not that you would understand
>>108622331Never allow fags, troons, or femcels access to your organization.
>>108622213>alad wenterAnnnnnnd it's a troon
>>108622436>a ladindeed
>>108622436Is it really or are you just assuming that because you saw a gradient?
>>108622213https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?O=0&K=xlibre
>>108622488nta but if you're the one claiming that's not a troon with that profile picture then you're going to have to provide some substantial evidence backing up your unlikely claim
>>108622320for real
>>108622526sheesh
>>108622523So are you going to answer the question or
>>108622213Gentoo doesn't have this problem.https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xlibre
>>108622213I don't understand the controversy over XLibre. Is it because the lead dev said not to take the clot shot or because corporate ball-garglers can't bear the thought of everyone not standardizing on Wayland?
>>108622558mostly the latter
>>108622488>>108622537>literally a troon flag with a picture of a troon on it from a guy doing troon things>YEAH BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT
>>108622584So no then. Ok
I don't know what xlibre is but maybe I'll start contributing
I hope X11, Xlibre, and Wayland never get any more updates ever again. All three are finished software. Nobody needs anything more.This whole debacle is unabashedly satanic and horrifying. Absolutely treacherous and disgusting.
>>108622314it's just xorg with tiny irrelevant patchesso many features introduced
>>108622213This shouldn't even be a dedicated article it should be a section under the Xorg article
>>108622753Xorg is a specific X11 implementation and is itself a fork of XFree86, why should XLibre be in the same article considering it's another whole separate fork made by different people?
>>108622753I should also probably add I don't know why you're expected to be using XLibre now when X11 just werks and is stable.Meanwhile XLibre having features and patches and code cleanups constantly added to it runs the constant risk of breaking random shit so when I update my X server just stops working properlyIt's still technically in a very early state of development so If I were to use it I would probably wait a few years and see if it becomes stable or matures enough that more mainstream distros package it alongside Xorg.>>108622793Because the Xorg article on the ArchWiki is essentially just the general X11 article as well. And also because of it's early state of development.
>>108622213>Muh code of cuckdomanyone who uses Arch should unironically hang themselves
The Code of Conduct is for users of Arch, not for anyone an Arch user might care to mention.Misapplied use of CoC, and the section he cites even says:>respect [others] and their views, even if you disagree with them. When you do find yourself disagreeing; counter the idea or the argument, rather than engage in ad hominem attacks.Alad didn't counter ideas here.
>>108622213Reminder, the whole thing is because XServer was maintained by Red Hat, which is owned and run by IBM. IBM and Red Hat are full on leftist organization now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrfVIbXKqtgAnd 5 days ago, they settled a smaller suit for DEI practiceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVueCw001AQIBM and Red Hat are still a full on DEI organization.The reason IBM's DEI is relevant here is that Wayland is pushed as a DEI project with DEI devs. They want to kill X completely. So maintainers who want to keep X and update it and run their own updates, are a threat to DEI infiltration within open source
>>108622213I use xlibre on 4 separate pcs running arch
>>108622331elaborate
>>108622558Linux is a corporate-controlled project now and they don't like any opposition to their goals. Mentioning systemd or Wayland in a negative manner in most Linux spaces online will see you branded as a Nazi by an army of useful idiots.
>>108622871>chuds made good thing>non-coding troons demanded to be let in>troons flooded the community with more troons>chuds left>os went to shit>troons danced on its corpse and impotently virtue signaled until arch died
>>108622213shit, I use aurutils by that guy. did he get shadow banned from arch or is he the one doing the banning?
>"It's not enough that everyone should be welcome. The people I'm told to hate must be actively excluded."t.leftoids
>>108622915also rightoids on anything lgbt.it's almost like sitting in the sensible center is the logical choice. But that's just me.
>>108622901he does write code tho
Why switch to Xlibre when xorg still works fine
>>108622933Running xorg is cringe these days.
>>108622951But I want my X server to be stable
>>108622959Pussy
>>108622970Sorry I'm just not gonna use it HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>108622978ok. I actually switched my chromebook to wayland
Besides the drama performance, do the xlibre devs pass the muster on technical grounds? The only "good" thing I've seen shilled about them is that the lead dev is a commit machine, as if making many commits a day somehow equals good code quality (which is usually the opposite).Also, if a jew tool is shilling it, I have no other option but to automatically distrust it and be extremely wary.
>>108622978>Pussy>I'm just not gonna use itwe know, fag
>>108622436>>108622523>>108622584It's a "cyberpunk/vaporwave/whatever" gradient.There is no mention of pronouns on any of his accounts (Keybase, Github, Reddit, Arch Wiki/Forums), none of the people he follows have pronouns or transgender flags, no mention of rust anywhere.
If this isnt the best signal for everyone who isnt an NPC to switch to Xlibre then I dont know what is.
>>108623007Xorg works fine for me so why should I switch>troon archiveHow's Jakarta>>108623003The only real difference right now is TearFree being enabled by default and I think some sort of basic HDR support
>>108623022You shouldnt. NPCs need to remain on Xorg/Waytroon. Dont ruin Xlibre too.
>>108623022>How's Jakartaunfortunately I live in Europe so there's probably more browns around me than if I lived there
>>108623016>best signalWhat? A jew constantly shilling bc le "owning the libs"? MIGA moment.
>>108623043Is the jew in the room with us now?
>>108623031You sound quite upsetI'll switch when it's stable but that probably won't be for a long while
>>108623049Be careful how you talk to your superiors. Your Xorg code of conduct prohibits disrespect.
>>108623049the discussion is getting heated, I recommend slowing down
>>108623076Why? I'm not a contributor. You're triggered by the fact I won't switch to an unstable fork.>>108623084Yup. Totally not samefagging...
>>108623047Hi Lunduke, stay on twatter, where you belong. You're not welcomed here.>t. 4chin
>>108622901>os went to shitThis is the part I am asking you to elaborate on.
>>108623047He is literally in the OP screenshot.
>>108622213
>>108622436>a lad went her
>>108623183based dont let them just get away with it, confront and corner them
>>108623183I kneel
>>108622540>Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg server which describes itself as lots of code cleanups and enhanced functionality. It was forked from Xorg after the Xorg developers claimed the author's many recent contributions suffer from poor quality control and numerous regressions. The enhanced functionality is not described or listed. Gnihihihi
>>108622213Xlibre goes against the code of conduct but Jeremy Bicha raping children doesn't?
wow a badfaith abuse of a COC. how surprising.
>>108622213>use wayland, it's modern and more secure>global menu stops working>global menu protocol was proposed 5 years ago, still not merged>discord screenshare stops working>gpu recorder stops working>obs studio stops working>forced vsync in overwatch (what the fuck)>cursor refresh is synced to frame rate (what the fuck)>hardware cursor is broken and extra input lag was introduced to make dragging windows "frame perfect" (windows has xorg behavior when moving the cursor and wayland behavior when dragging windows, gayland MOGGED)>you can no longer bypass libinput to use evdev directly>mfw moving the mouse feels like dragging my raw hard cock across a rough concrete wall>mfw gaming feels like fucking dogshit in wayland>mfw retarded casual shitters suck too hard at video games to notice it>mfw I have to dual boot windows because kde breaks xorg>mfw my use case is wrong>mfw I get called a nazi for using the software that supports my incredible niche use case of not sucking fucking ass at overwatch
>>108623278Contribute to it.
>>108623146Talking about the things that actually happened would destroy Turdcucke (who alsomade this thread)'s narrative. Just remain outraged and watch m-his videos.
>>108623278I love that kind of emotionless, clinical, technical roasting of obvious bullshit.
>>108622922If you sit on the "sensible center" too long you'll get overrun by lunatics of either side, and if you attempt to oust them for being lunatics you end up becoming one of them. Being on the "sensible center" is a coward's ideology.
>>108623338What else do you have in common with troons?
>>108623371>i like eating sugar>did you know troons also like sugar?>*audible gasp*
>>108622213Repeat after me. Chud forks never prosper.
>>108622352>sees computers and thinks of dickholy freudian slip
>>108623352Nah, that's just what frustrated schizos say when they fail to convert you to their brand of zealotry. Mocking sane positions makes you feel better about your own degenerate nature.
>>108622719> TearFree> Tiny irrelevant patchesSure anon, sure.
>>108623293most of this just sounds like a you issue. i play overwatch on hyprland, 480hz, direct scanout, amd anti-lag spoofed to nvidia reflex. outperforms x11 for me. do you have a nvidia gpu or something?
>>108623408wayland never had this problem btw
>>108623387Linux exists because of Chuds.Non-Chuds are the refugees currently fleeing the non-Chud Windows.Everything good in this world is because of Chuds.
>>108623457yeah but Wayland has a million other problems, that's not saying much
>>108623457Wayland still cant run apps remotely.inb4>hurr durr use caseIf you cant think of one consider cleaning streets.
>>108623457"wayland could never" is a terrible way to go about anything, wayland literally could never a lot of things
>>108623461No, Linux exists because of non-chuds. Chuds are fleeing to Windows, while non-chuds are producing good software.
>>1086234842/10Needs more effort.
>>108623183>I will not explain the situation because even I am aware that I am the problem and have no reasonable basis. Jesus christ.
>>108623387Linus himself said that commits per week is a terrible way to measure the quality of the code
>>108623293Wayland doesn't care about the user case, if KDE didn't didn't write the glue for copy & paste, no Wayland DE would have it!> Fringe use case = common usage> Security mumbo = we simply won't write the code> Future = IBM/rhel is pulling strings
>>108623512>implying troons and jeets care about quality of codeWhy do you think they use AI and jeetware?
>>108622213Can't wait for the 30 minute long lunduke video about this.
>>108623477>run apps remotelyIt's a nice feature, but it's all people ever seem to bring up against Wayland these days. Is that all there is left?
>>108623488I wasn't baiting, I was pointing out how little meaning there is behind those words.
>>108623559Yeah why do you need a shittier version of something that already exists?
>>108623597/g/ loves lunduke schizotard
>>108622314X11 still has use cases for hardware and XLibre is just better X11, even supports HDR. The thing that Wayland didn't support until very recently (and even then, shittily). XLibre is the direction Wayland should have gone in but its maintainers are GNOBS with their heads shoved up their asses like Ebussy. Patently ignoring and deleting well-used features to focus on Wayland's original function as a kiosk display server. None of the problems that exist in wayland are a problem in xlibre and xwayland is a hack wayland uses to be remotely usable on desktop PCs.
>>108622719>HDR>tiny irrelevantSo irrelevant Wayland didn't have it for 10 years LMAO kys>>108622799The wiki article had migration instructions and instructions for enabling the new features of XLibre that make it better than Wayland like tear-free and HDR. Lock the article because you're an angry tranny, sure, don't delete all the valuable information outright so no one can look it up because your dilator found a dry socket.
>>108623597Holy fucking schizo dipshit, do you have a list of these threads and stalk /g/ just to re-post it again and againI hope you actually work for GNOME and aren't doing it for free.
>>108623569I like Hyprland more than the X11 WMs I used. Running apps remotely with just the display server is nice, but it doesn't beat out how much I prefer Hyprland to other WMs.Is there anything else X11 has that I should factor in too?
>>108623452
Diversity is our strength. You can use both xlibre and wayland for different things you want to do on your computer.
>>108623187i noticed that too. i seriously wonder if what we consider reality is really just a simulation
>>108622922>also rightoids on anything lgbt.You're an idiot. Most people don't give a shit if you want to suck cocks and eat cum. The problem is you don't stop at sucking cocks and eating cum. You want to wave flags around about how much you love sucking cocks and eating cum. You want cock sucking cum eating parades. You want everyone who is grossed out about your cuck sucking cum eating habits to be persecuted. And when you get called out on this cum sucking cock eating behavior of yours, you resort to false equalities.
>>108622436>alad wenter>chopped off his wienter god's silliest battles, funniest clowns, etc
>>108623782>>108623601
>>108623782Ok but we dont give a fuck about Landuke. He didnt create XLibre.
>>108622213It's still on the wiki
>>108623814okay but /g/ loves lunduke
>>108623814Stop trying to tie some journo nobody to XLibre. Nobody is buying your tricks.
>>108623726I'm convinced we live in a simulation. and I'm trans btw but keep troon shit away from tech for fuck sake
>>108622314SimpleScreenRecorder
Why are some schizos obsessed with some noname irrelevant journo wannabe?
why does the poltard refuse to admit this is a lunduke board?
>>108622558It's because he said he does not support CoCs or DEI and that aligns him with the trumptards. So now every tranny and leftist wants to cancel and remove him in any way they can>>108622889>>108622835>>108623387>>108622922Funniest part: If they had just let him have his temper tantrum on the freedesktop.org's wiki pages way back in the day and make his fork in peace, nobody would know about XLibre. The knowledge of XLibre stems directly from freedesktop.org's attempts to slander, destroy, delete, and remove him from any and all projects associated with GNOME or RedHat. He's banned on github, he's banned on freedesktop.org, he's banned on literally every corporate wiki including the X11 wiki, Ubuntu wiki, and mentioning XLibre on Ubuntu or Debian's mailing list is an instant ban. Youtube, when googling X11, now displays videos discussing the XLibre controversy over configuring X11 or even XWayland. This is why I know the attempts to blacklist XLibre came from a corporate command instead of being grassroots: no individual outrage campaign would fall for the Streisand effect this hard. This is 100% a corporate mandate from above trying to move the needle a little bit ending in a huge overreaction which popularized their enemy. Corporations cannot help themselves and RedHat as well as Freedesktop.org are part of the largest corporation in open source. There is no "sensible center" to letting corporations walk all over you.
>>108622558it's the latter ofcjust like how (((they))) always attack devuan and artix for rejecting systemd
>>108623842He gives attention to small issues in open source that the "BIG TECHTUBERS" (People who are smaller in size and scope than Loonduke) ignore purposefully to avoid not getting on RedHat's naughty list.People like Brodie Robertson are absolute shills who make their careers off fencesitting and occasionally throwing shit at the ideological enemies of big tech. If it were a Brodie video, the redhat jeet wouldn't have any problems with it, despite the fact Brodie is way smaller than loonduke.
>>108623477>consider cleaning streets.xhe is too busy shitting on them
>>108623559>all that's left Hotkeys FullscreenScreen tearing In fact most of the problems that were supposed to be fixed with Portals aren't fixed because POrtals were an awful hack job to attempt to solve a problem that didn't need fixing.This all stems from the "Kiosks first" mentality of Wayland. How SteamOS got Wayland native desktop is a miracle that I'm sure is built on the backs of thousands of hacks because you cannot use most hardware to seamlessly bind actions or hotkeys to the desktop in Wayland. Of course LITERALLY every single time this has been brought up for 15 years you get this pube-faced motherfucker screeching in his ebubblebassi voice "NEHRRR USE CASE?" because kiosks and ATMs don't have hotkeys or remote view so a normal desktop shouldn't either. Remote view gets brought up on Linux likely because most of us are sysadmins and we use more than one system in the cloud so it's more useful to us than gaming hardware keybinds.
>>108622213oh shit, the troons are fucking users with their CoCs again
>>108623710true, you can run a very minimalistic gayland compositor under XLibre to run waydroid so you can play chinese gacha
>>108623893>Hotkeys >Fullscreen>Screen tearingThey all work perfectly fine on Hyprland. Not had one single problem with any of that. Hotkeys are very simple to configure and use.I don't like GNOME's philosophy either, but I haven't been keeping up with how well GNOME implements Wayland. Last time I saw their DE it looked awful, but that's not specific to Wayland.
>>108623936the gacha game I play is on Steam so I don't have that issue
>>108623953>(((steam)))I'd rather kms than cuck to (((valve))), killer of KDE
>>108623980I played it on mobile before the Steam release but pyroxenes are cheaper on Steam by like 35% and I like saving money
>>108623992>laughs in f2p
>>108623937>They all work perfectly fine on Hyprland.Highly hardware specific. That's why people still use X11 and why XLibre is a needed project. Wayland and yes, Hyprland, are not one-size-fits-all solutions and most of Wayland, GNOME, and freedesktop's ills fall on the same developers for the same reasons: All of these projects are managed by a few large companies and they have an obvious disdain for its users.Hyprland is great and I do use it, but I would not assume that my use case is everyone else's, that's the GNOME developers jobs.
>>108623937I used hyprland for a few months at the end of last year. If I switched my monitor input to a different computer everything not using xwayland would crash. Also, the only DE on wayland that supports fractional scaling well is KDE. Everything else uses an algorithm that looks like absolute shit. I put time and effort into switching to hyprland, and after a few months I had to give up.
>>108623997>f2pno thanks
>>108622213https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2294792Thread discussing this just got deleted, it should be obvious now that this is never getting fixed nor are they going to give a reason why it's not allowed other than vague references to the about page of Xlibre As a bit of catch-up for anyone late to this: This Alad "fellow" has been talking on his wiki's talk page about this and has basically justified the whole thing with references to XLibre's "About us" page. Pic relatedSo far, he has not mentioned anything anywhere about what on the 'About us' page he finds distasteful or worthy of deletion. Just references to it and Arch Linux's "Reputation". Reminder: arch linux's wiki also provides detailed instructions on pirating and emulating video games, and no changes have been made to that for years (nor should there be). There was a thread discussing it, now deleted without reason. There's also a talk page asking for third party arbitration, expect this to get shot down since it's clear this is another command from above. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ArchWiki_talk:Requests#Request_for_arbitration_regarding_Xlibre_page_deleted_for_political_reasons
>>108623278>The enhanced functionality is not described or listed.it works for me.
>>108624037Since I'm sure this will be misrepresented by the shills: If you want to know the kind of "Angry chud language" the page had before its deletion, here's a snapshot of it: https://web.archive.org/web/20260417133903/https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2294792Entirely people being civil and attempting to pretend Alad is acting in good faith. Thread deleted anyway. Also several of these users are now banned without reason.
>>108624068Also here's the talk page for Alad. Every attempt to discuss it with Alad or get clarification gets closed/deleted.https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/User_talk:Alad
>>108623620>HDRxlibre doesn't support hdr yet.Why do you lie?
>>108622314It has improvements that would never make it to Xorg because Xorg is maintained (gatekept) by DEI trannies.
>>108624075https://github.com/orgs/X11Libre/discussions/251Read to the bottom. X11HDR is in beta right now.
>>108623293yeah the latency on just moving the cursor is very very noticeable. im getting used to it though. at the moment, its either i deal with wayland or i go back to windows 10, and im not going back to windows. its a shame
>>108624100Why not use XLibre
>>108624106i dont have faith in it long termjust feels like kicking the can down the road
>>108624125Okay, but define "long-term", It'll be stable for at least 3-4 years. If you're having problems now, and wayland hasn't fixed it (this is common for wayland), wouldn't it make sense to be on xlibre for the next few years until maybe this is fixed? Otherwise you're going back to WinAIDS because you have the sniffles now.This "It doesn't work right this instant so I'm going back to making deals with the literal devil" problem is why Microsoft gets away with murder.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ArchWiki:Maintenance_TeamThey're not even considered an active wiki maintainer.
>>108624153They're an admin. Which is basically "We're the boss fuck you", they didn't even log in for upwards of a month beforehand before they just did this.If you want my opinion: They're the fall guy. There are commands coming from up above and they're using this little wiki admin who doesn't interact with the page anyway as the face of it. The actual actors get to hide in the shadows and find other ways to manipulate the project. Start archiving the wiki, now. It's XLibre today but it could be Grub2 once systemd-boot gets attestation, TPM, and verified ID support.
I fucking hate waypists so much it's unreal.>>108622314It actually works.>>108623782We can judge an idea based on its merit instead of how much we dislike the person saying it, this is just a really obvious and lame way to stop people from thinking about things.
>>108622213May as well call it the Code of Cuckduct at this point.
xlibre really got under their skin it seems. good to know.
>>108624183Everyone called this when CoCs started getting pushed everywhere, even the GNOME founders said that this was just a way to remove people who got under their skin.
>>108623937>>108623559>>108622314Oh right and I forgot what is the most annoying feature >No universal clipboards STILL >Wayland's solution was upwards of 6 clipboards at a time>When a process closes, 3 of them are at risk of clearing outright >freedesktop's solution to this was to remove one of the clipboards (the middle click)Literal most retarded devs of all time.
>>108624106inevitably some transgender batman will hack xlibre and wipe your pc for using nazi softwareor at least that's the fear
>>108624228>freedesktop's solution to this was to remove one of the clipboards (the middle click)Good riddance
>>108624259Yeah let's have 5 clipboards instead of 6 (that clipboard was the ONLY ONE that carried between processes btw all the other ones get fucked when the process terminates) that'll show those retards trying to use our kiosk display server
>>108624091>unofficial forkyea may as well not exist, not even sure if it's actual hdr, if the display isn't put into hdr mode then it isn't.
>>108624370>yea may as well not existXLibre is an unofficial fork of X11 just like how X11 is an unofficial fork of XFree86. 'Official' is fucking meaningless when it comes to forks or open source because this is not a popularity contest. Your disingenuous ass knows this.
>>108624370>not even sure if it's actual hdr,It is and you can go test this if you cared
>>108624417It is quite literally and exclusively one giant popularity contest. The term 'official' has no meaning. Let the best fork win.
>>108624427If it can't put the display in hdr mode dynamically i don't care.
>no syndromed>no pulseaudio>no pipewire>no avahi>no networkmanager>no elogind>no udisks>no gvfs>no gaylandI fucking hate all this shit. One day, I will be free. And no, I won't take my meds. I feel great.
>>108624610Come home, schizo
>>108624037>>108624068>>108624074never thought I'd say this but Arch Linux seems like it's actually part of the corpo infiltration of FOSS, un-fucking-believable.
>>108622314so u can keep using ur window manager
>>108624003>Highly hardware specific.Have you had trouble with NVIDIA? My laptop is one of thoes Intel iGPU NVIDIA dGPU Optimus ones, and that's worked OK. (I thought I would use the NVIDIA render with Gamescope, which is meant to work pretty well, but I actually haven't gotten round to playing any games on this particular machine in however many years it's been.)That's fair enough for people who have poor hardware compatibility that maybe for some people it doesn't work great because of their hardware, but I think some of these X11 fans go a bit too far the other way and say therefore it's no good for anyone.I'm not against people using X11 or XLibre. If that's what's best for them, that's great they have that. I just find it confusing when I see people make these broad blanket statements about Wayland features that are working without any issues for me.>>108624008Do you mean you unplug, for example, the HDMI cord from your computer, and plug it into a different machine, and the non-XWayland programs on your second screen die? (In essence, when you unplug a HDMI). I might be missing the point there. I did have an issue for a little while where certain apps (specifically chromium, running on the Wayland Ozone platform) would sometimes die when dragging them from one screen to another but that seems to have gone away.Can't comment on the fractional scaling. I think I use 2.0 and it works fine. Sorry to hear you've had problems with other scales. I do seem to recall Hyprland saying they weren't supported, so that makes sense.>>108624228I use cliphist and that has been serving me pretty well. Works how I would expect it to. I still have the past however many hundreds copies I've made available even though the processes they came from have long since closed. I didn't like middle click paste in the first place though so that one was no great loss for me. Wouldn't be surprised if you could using binds to make it paste on middle click again like you want.
>>108624739One wiki admin deletes one page and the entire distro is lost. Really sad stuff. :(
>>108624697BSD will soon become compromised as well. You have to make your own OS from scratch and make sure nobody else but you can ever use it.
>"Make X great again!" Isn't a political statement LOLOLOL you chuds deny reality more than any transgender person ever has or will. stay mad, queens!
>>108624151Sorry cucks I'm white and I feel like having software that looks good and performs well without tearing and jittering. I like my monitors to be treated as separate! KrashDE it is for me!
>>108624811oh look another disingenuous shillhere's what actually happened without you omitting crucial details:one wiki admin deletes the documentation to a software for no real reason other than "muh coc", didn't link any statements or proof the coc was violated in any way and then the discussion around it is silenced with no explanation either.this btw comes after one of the devs contacted a r/archlinux mod to have threads about a rumor that arch will add age verification deleted>:(whatever you say shill
>>108624697I seriously consider it. I'm sick and tired of fighting with Linux, feels like Windows at this point.
>>108624811admins shitting things up over extremely petty reasons is usually not a good sign
>>108624919>I seriously consider it. I'm sick and tired of fighting with Linux, feels like Windows at this point.>>108624697>Come home, schizovery basedOpenBSD is least pozzed, but not good for fast GUI. But good to try it.
>>108624857>>"Make X great again!" Isn't a political statement >LOLOLOL you chuds deny reality more than any transgender person ever has or will. stay mad, queens!everyone can contribute there - all good
>discussion about Jews hiking up prices for every computer part is off topic>a /pol/tard Jew shill post is on topicAnd trannies, despite being an insignificant % of the world population, wonder why the world hates them!
>>108622540nigger
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/dcv/latest/adminguide/managing-sessions-intro.html imagine not using xdcv for your remote work
>>108624965based
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE, look at this Xlibre nonsense on the Gentoo wiki and tell me the entire display server world hasn't completely lost its goddamn mind!Xorg — the battle-hardened, network-transparent, actually-works-for-actual-users X11 server that's been carrying Linux on its back for decades — is getting slow-walked into the grave by a bunch of Red Hat corporate fanboys and Wayland zealots who decided that if they just stop merging patches and call everything "maintenance mode," people will magically forget how much X11 still kicks ass for real workflows.And what do we get as the heroic savior? Xlibre. Some lone wolf forks it because upstream called his patches "poor quality with regressions" (shocker), then he rage-quits and declares the whole Xorg project infested with "toxic elements" and "BigTech moles" deliberately sabotaging it to push their precious Wayland monopoly. Classic "embrace, extend, extinguish" they scream, while shipping a fork in "early stages" with ABI breaks, live ebuild warnings, and a GitHub README that reads like a conspiracy manifesto.Congratulations, you've turned the display server drama into even more drama. Instead of fixing Xorg properly, we now have two barely-maintained X11 implementations: the original that's being deliberately neglected, and the angry fork that's "lots of code cleanups and enhanced functionality" (whatever the hell that means — they sure as shit don't list any of it).Meanwhile, Wayland sits there like the smug, over-engineered hipster it is: "Oh nooo, screen sharing is broken, global hotkeys are a nightmare, my compositor crashed again, but at least it's secure and modern!" Yeah, secure like a toddler's fort made of popsicle sticks. Every time someone points out that real users still need actual X11 features that Wayland treats as "legacy problems," the response is "just use XWayland bro" while they quietly break XWayland too.
>>108624956I agree, it's definitely not good, and it should been handled on the talk page as a page merge request with X11. People just get so dramatic about stuff that hasn't even fully played out yet is my issue.The only other Arch involved person we've seen anything from here is Seth, who has disagreed on the deletion for the CoC reason given, but is fine with letting it stand because the page didn't have any config information over the information for X11. It wasn't a long standing page with useful stuff on it or anything.Arch on the whole is pretty good at keeping things non-political, better than most any other distro, so it's annoying when some tiny thing happens because of one unilateral decision by a wiki admin, and people act like "it's so over" because of one volunteer retard.
>>108625024Thanks jeetpt
>>108625029damage control: the post
>>108625029>People just get so dramatic about stuff that hasn't even fully played out yet is my issue.>[skipped 8113 lines]>Arch on the whole is pretty good at keeping things non-political, better than most any other distro, soI'm glad for you man. Or sorry that this happened.
>>108623278Honestly, it's beyond tiresome seeing this cycle repeat itself over and over. First it's XLibre is evil Nazi. Stomp it out nowThen its "Let's all chuckle and snort at the same thing and pretend like its the first time you heard it every single time. Just like my heckin daily show!"If XLibre gets bigger it'll be "This is a threat to our Linux Democracy. We have to deplatform it"Do you ever get tired of repeating the same canned responses and behaviors? Also your Reddit snark is no different than "owning the libs" and you are significantly worse about being a "culture war" retard than even the most knuckle dragging rightoid.
>>108625029I'm so sorry to hear that, reddit-kun
>>108624739>>108622331>>108622254Arch is clearly compromised. This much is obvious.So what are the options now? Artix is based on Arch. Gentoo is solid but rather impractical on lower end machines. Void might an alternative but I feel they're only a "good" alternative now because they're way too underground.
>>108624857Is that really the reason you libtards are so upset by XLibre? The Make X Great Again line? Jesus you are some of the most mentally I'll people in the world. You do know that Make _ Great Again has become more or less a common slogan that can be used in a lot of varying ways. You can even use it in a neg-MAGA way without bring fully ironic. Boomers were right about TDS.
>>108625024Mods remove the OpenBSD image from this post.
>>108623035>be heterosexual game>make nigger faggots seethebased buruaka
>>108625198Void has a lot of potential. It just has too many trannies and libtards in control, but it's ripe for a Chud invasion. Easy to set up alternative repos and void-packages are more decentralized than the AUR.
>>108625198>Gentoo>impractical on lower end machinesnigger what
>>108625113>>108625135>>108625194No responses made across these three posts.
>>108625222it really do be like that
>>108625277>be dishonest shill>bitch & moan about getting ridiculedmany such cases
>>108625290Which part do you think is dishonest?
>>108625200>It's not political>Make x great againAhh yes because the creator that clearly supports millions of things that Orange Man does isn't making a political statement here. The gnome screenshot too, nooo! It's not political! Cope more faggot. You're convincing no one that isn't a maggot.>Hating one of the worst and most divisive political people of our time alive is derangedKill yourself, unironically.
>>108625370>Ahh yes because the creator that clearly <makes inference from a paraphrased slogan>Kill yourself, unironically.
>>108625277>make post omitting the details of what happened>downplay everything with "oh the wiki page didn't actually have anything important" and "it's just one rogue admin but here's this other admin who agrees actually!">people dismiss you for the obvious damage controlling shill that you are>then you pretend you're "le serious"you have some nerve to ask for a serious reply despite knowing that if this was the Arch forum we wouldn't even be having a discussion because it would get deleted immediatelyall one rogue admin btw
>>108622213Reminder that the Linux Foundation is compromised and in league with the United Nations and Anthropic.
>>108625249Oh, sure, let me just compile chrome on my raspberry pi real quick.
>>108625379Tired of winning yet, chud? Counting or not counting gang violence? For the record, it shouldn't have been removed from the arch wiki. But I'm so happy it's making chuds like you mad.
>>108625198>Arch is clearly compromised. >Gentoo as an alternative>too underground>when Gentoo has been taken over by ChromeOS devs for almost a decade nowLinux is clearly compromised. That doesn't mean "go back to windows", though:https://cy-x.net/topic/linux-as-a-whole-is-compromised/601Cherry on top: The internet is clearly compromisedhttps://cy-x.net/topic/master-thread-on-the-2015-2022-closure-of-the-internet/837 (pages 1-2)pic very related
ANOTHER WIN AGAINST THE NAZIS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>108625416CrApple is far worse than even microslop, so what now?
>>108625382You guys aren't actually saying anything. You're just calling me a shill and saying I'm downplaying it without anything to back that up. Why is it a bigger deal than I think? You should make a point rather than just asserting stuff and hoping people won't ask you for anything to back it up.
>>108625416good readthanks, Anon
>>108623726God just has a sense of humor. People become namesakes if figure it out. I am the supplanting light, dwelling in the fortress.
>>108624965I don't care if the GUI is fast or not, I don't want niggerish garbage on my system.
>>108625540if they don't*
>>108625540Though, it's probably more that demons are cruel.
based archemists (not to be confused with full metal alchemist, a manga and an anime).
>>108625508>erm I ackchuhally need an explanation as for why randomly deleting xlibres documentation and silencing all discussion about it is le badwhat's next you plebbitor, gonna ask me to back it up with a source?actually here's one:https://www.theknotsmanual.com/knots/hangmans-knot-noose/you dumb fucking shill
>>108625613>I don't need my points to make sense because... I just don't, OK?How can anyone even start to engage with you? Pointless posts.
>>108625613>Randomly deletedFrom xlibres cuck page:>Right after journalists first began covering the planned fork Xlibre, on June 6th 2025, Redhat employees started a purge on the Xlibre founder's GitLab account on freedesktop.org: deleted the git repo, tickets, merge requests, etc, and so fired the shot that the whole world heard.This "purge" was a long time coming and was frankly DESERVED. Unnecessary ABI breakages, leaving end users w broken graphics, and his schizophrenic anti vax bullshit. Enrico Weigelt deserves all he has coming to him and more. He's more "woke" in the stupid trans way than any actual trans person.>XlibreMay eventually become a good project if he can stop being schizophrenic for a couple years. Doubt it, though. The handling of his removal was obviously horrific though. Why in the fuck these retards waited so long to remove this retard is beyond me. His gay ass CoC shouldn't have the Trump dog whistle and gnome screenshot in it. Simple as, moving forward.Oh and I hope (You) and all the chuds, and Enrico Weigelt kill yourselves. The world WILL be better if you all perish.
>>108625772I've been running Xlibre on Gentoo without any issues for months. Have you tried killing yourself?
>>108625772>>Right after journalists first began covering the planned fork Xlibre, on June 6th 2025, Redhat employees started a purge on the Xlibre founder's GitLab account on freedesktop.org: deleted the git repo, tickets, merge requests, etc, and so fired the shot that the whole world heard.>"when redhat says jump, arch should say how high! when redhat pettily purges their maintainer, arch should do the same thing!">vax statements from 5 fucking years agoyou know the crazy part about all of this you stupid retard?you've actually given more of a reason than the person who deleted the page did. which is exactly the problem, hence why I said "randomly".now go get your tardwrangler to explain to you what hypocrisy is because your post is fucking full of it.
>>108622558Linux distros were the first to jump onto the age verification thing, might as well admit that linux is just more mossad dogshit
>>108625923Maybe I can use BeOS or AmigaOS in the meantime
>>108625029You make it clear-------- arch linux is for niggers and parasitized tranny kike worshipers
>>108625923meanwhile my distro openly said they'll never ask for any information, be it age or anything else. comfy
>>108625923Gnu Hurd team (one guy) would never accept that.
>>108623183so they literally have no reason for removing it? they can't even cite any coc violation?
>>108625277>No responses made across these three posts.when Arch linux admin of wiki already deletes articles based on his political opinions, shit is already pretty far gone.If they undo it and kick the retarded admin then sure. Will they? Remeber to (you) us if they do! (they won't)
>>108624228I dunno man I ctrl+c and ctrl+v and have never once had clipboard issues. It seems like your issue is that the keybind changed.
>>108624065Don't shoot the messenger. This is actually a very good and impartial wiki article as a wiki should be. They don't take sides just say it like it is.Yes, it could very well work for you. It doesn't claim otherwise.
how long till they remove the aur package.
>>108626251They probably won't because they don't really care that much about the AUR.They still have packages like:https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/unshitted-systemdThis is going to break some retards system sooner or later.
>>108623893>"Kiosks first" mentality of Waylandelaborate
I fucking think retards clinging to X11 are open source programmers that refuse to switch. I also still use X11 because those same faggots won't upgrade the program I use. So i ended up paying some niggers who are making the upgrades on the same sort of program but its taking them fucking forever so here I remain on X11.
>>108623893>This all stems from the "Kiosks first" mentality of Wayland. How SteamOS got Wayland native desktop is a miracle that I'm sure is built on the backs of thousands of hacks because you cannot use most hardware to seamlessly bind actions or hotkeys to the desktop in Wayland.It is because all of your "Wayland" issues are GNOME issues.Steam uses KDE Plasma which has no such issues.
If you're using Linux in 2026 you're a useful idiot retard.
>>108626286I'm just an average user who likes his software to work. I know literally nothing about programming
>>108626311What's the alternative?>Bloat maxing Windows 11? No>Buy a Mac? No>Chop your dick off and use FreeBSD? No
>>108626286What a weird non-sensical post.God damn this board sucks ass.
>>108623016I’m lazy so I’ll wait for mint to change to xlibre (it’s the “fuck israel” distro so that will happen, right?)
Why are trannies so eager to follow government censorship?
>>108626317>What's the alternative?>>Bloat maxing Windows 11? No>>Buy a Mac? No>>Chop your dick off and use FreeBSD? No1) OpenBSD2) Microkernels. Perhaps Genode/SeL4. Or Nova (microhypervisor). And inside it run the good parts of Linux, BSDs (drivers), and run any software, and VMs.It's very experimental, but is the future.As usual the unix way of modularity is the right way.
>>108623477vpn, rdp and gtk also has broadway.
>>108626317>What's the alternative?Stop using computers. Go innawoods.
>>108626325Yeah, no.I have a shit Core2Duo laptop I'm not using anymore though so maybe I'll try it there. I don't expect great things but OpenBSD can probably run on hardware that ancient, right? Some microkernel bullshit probably can too.
>>108622213extremely basedmay all Chuds seethe in piss
>>108626323you can probably install it right now, there's no way nobody made an apt package for it
>>108622213I only stay on Arch because they are not political, if I can't see Xlibre page on Arch Wiki in coming weeks I’m switching to some other distro.
>>108626338It will almost certainly break their entire OS when they upgrade to the next version of Mint. Don't do that, they're right to wait.
Who has ever gone to a wiki for information and thought "man, I hope I don't see anything disrespectful?" Who asked for this?
>>108626220They'll probably just add a note to Xorg or something. What's happened so far is it's been added as a note to General recommendations#Display server. That seems like a good place for it, and probably how this will settle.
>>108626362It's grandstanding. Leftoids love to do it. It's literally all they do, actually.
>>108626281Way;and was originally meant for kiosks, but it hasn't been that way for a long time now.What that guy probably means is that GNOME is "kiosk-like" (really it's tablet-like, which is also bad, but not quite as bad).He seems to have mixed up GNOME's implementation of Wayland with Wayland as a whole.
>>108626362if the wiki started calling me a retard I'd get a good chuckle out of it
>>108625831Your unemployed anecdotes don't matter, faggot.>>1086258610 research was done in that post bud just read you fucking waste of oxygen
>>108626378You think anyone here cares? If you don't immediately switch from Xorg to Xlibre without question you are simply grouped in with wayland trannies
>>108626343has clement ever said anything about xlibre? i doubt he would actually add it in
>>108626417Don't think so. Mint itself is slowly progressing towards a stable Wayland experience though, albeit it at an extremely glacial pace to the point that even a one man project could do more than them.I don't know what Mint actually does apart from collect donations.
>>108624153>>108624172>they
God I think that people should be economically and socially equal but leftist are just so fucking infuriating and toxic. The right might have the wrong ideas but at least they don't cancel everyone who doesn't agree with them
>>108626434No one says he anymore for singular they
>>108626444>singular theydoesn't exist
>>108626440They have the correct ideas as well. Post-modernism is a cultural disease, nothing more. Look around you at what it's created.
>>108626343Yeah thought so, I’ll wait then.>>108626432It’s a nice middle ground between bleeding edge stuff and debian. It has pretty regular security updates, and the lack of DE updates is a blessing because updates always mean something is going to change
>>108626459>doesn't existBro fucking Chaucer used singular they
>>108626444Singular they? You mean “it”Troons are “it”s, it’s true
>>108626479he drank a gallon of wine a day. i wouldn't consider him to be trustworthy in grammar
>>108626486No "it" is the singular form for inanimate objects"They" is the singular form for animate objects>>108626493So did Shakespeare, and the king james bible uses it sometimes too
>>108626459It does exist.I hate trannies as much as the next man (male) and they will never be a woman. Libshits and SJW are retarded for trying to implement some newspeak but so are retards that don't understand their own language.
>>108626506then what purpose does "he"/"she" serve if everything can be satisfied by "they"?
>>108626519>then what purpose does "he"/"she" serve if everything can be satisfied by "they"?It's just leftovers from the complex gendered system of Old English. English used to be like other European languages where every noun had a gender male, female or neuter. but now it's basically gone outside of living beings that are male or femalesingular they is specifically for when you don't know if the person is male or female or about a hypothetical person who's gender can be either male or female. It got co-opted by leftists to use it for their non binary bullshit only recently.
>>108623278>>108623338most of it was true when Xlibre first forked, but its totally false that they don't list enhanced functionality, THe Xnamespace extension was advertised from the beginning, and was never accepted by Xorg.
>>108623293I feel your pain. I got xorg back on my Fedora KDE install. Turn off compositor when gayming and even my dual monitor setup is smooth as butter.
>>108622213Another day, another round of loonix drama. I'll stick with Windows and BSD, thanks.
>>108626781>let me throw in bsd on this post so i can fit in
>>108626506imagine caring about troon pronoun bable
>>108626907I threw in BSD for two reasons. I use FreeBSD for my home server, and I know that just the mere mention of it upsets you more than anything else.If I state that I use Windows, perhaps you'll be under the (incorrect) position that I know of no other OS. Yet putting BSD there is very painful for you, because you absolutely know I had the option to install linux, and just didn't. It was rejected at the side of the road, like the nasty old troon whore that it is. Save me your melty, I probably won't even read it.
>>108626923Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.singular they in the KJV
>>108626955>KJVbible thumper babble is even worse than troon bable
>>108626923I'd be surprised if you actively used singular he in casual conversation because outside of formal texts and schools no one used singular he.Singular he is artificial and only began being forced after the 18th century. singular they has been used in some capacity since Middle English.
>>108623007>>108623035>>108623953>>108623992>>108625286Looking good Sensei
>>108626964Geoffrey Chaucer, The Canterbury Tales, The Pardoner's Prologue>"And whoso fyndeth hym out of swich blame,>They wol come up and offre on Goddes name,>And I assoille hem by the auctoritee..."Here we see singular they alongside the native english plural form hem, unrelated to modern singular he but preserved in "'em"Shakespeare, The Comedy of Errors, Act 4 Scene 3>There's not a man I meet but doth salute me>As if I were their well-acquainted friend...Hamlet, Act 3 Scene 4>Tis meet that some more audience than a mother,>Since nature makes them partial, should o'erhear >The speech...
>>108626506>No "it" is the singular form for inanimate objects>"They" is the singular form for animate objectsA child is "it", you fucking troon. Don't make up random shit. This is all just fantasy in your head.
>>108626542Again completely wrong.The singular "they", that you may see in old (but not too old) texts, is a hoborific form, it is like the German " Sie".And that was only used for a temporary time because english aristocrats wantes to have something to elevate themselves from the plebs, it got overused, and swiftly died again.You are just making shit up in your head.
>>108627032>A child is "it"I don't know about you, but I don't know of anyone who calls children by the "it" pronoun other than occasionally infants.>you fucking troon. Don't make up random shit. This is all just fantasy in your head.I'm no troon but keep crying you spastic nigger
>>108627053>other than occasionally infantsso you know someFact is that its not for inanimate objects. You are simply wrong.
>>108627050Singular they came into use because of Norse influence replacing native hem.Singular he was a later innovation pushed by grammatical texts in the early modern period.>hoborificI assume you mean honorific here, I don't know what part of your arse you pulled this out of but there's basically nothing I can find regarding this usage>>108627063Do you think some people casually making exceptions to a rule means the rule is wrong
>>1086264070 braincells have been used in this post, get your tardwrangler already this is just embarassing
>>108627070>because of Norse influenceAs i said, because they wanted a honorific form like those languages have.This is a completely different usecase from what troons claim.It's also the same reason why the second person singular (you) is the same as the second person plural (you).Back in the day "thou" was the second person singular, then aristocrats started adressing each other with the plural, to copycat honorific forms that other languages have, it got overused and it won, now "thou" isn't a thing anymore.The fact is that you are wrong. Its made up shot.If you want to go back to actual english, you shouldn't replace genders with plurals, you should do the opposite and promote thou again, because splitting singular from plural makes lots of sense.Think about how idiots use "you'all" to make sure that its understood that it's a plural.In any way, you are wrong.You use troon language and then make up something to justify that.
>>108627050>The singular "they", that you may see in old (but not too old) texts, is a hoborific form, it is like the German " Sie".Perhaps you might be mistaking it with the T-V distinction for the 2nd person pronoun?
>>108626321ive been posting here since 06 you worthless sack of shit. just leave never come back. fucking kill yourself!
>>108627113I want to know where you got the idea though that they was a honourific usageI can't find anything regarding this and there is primary sources showing usage of singular they was constant for hundreds of years and that it never naturally fell out of useIf it was truly honourific then it would have come from Old French which was the prestige languageOld Norse influence came from the north of England and slowly projected southward, the noblemen of the time spoke French and so honourific usages would have come from FrenchThe T-V distinction is french influence of the usage of second person pronouns (French has a distinction vous vs tu like how English developed
>>108626986what you on about troon, you literally use he all the time: hey anon what's up with your american buddy? oh I met up with him yesterday, he got wasted.
>>108627166Yeah because it can be gathered from context that the gender is maleSingular they is used in contexts where the gender is not clear.You are being disingenuous and assuming I'm talking about the forced lgbt shit that co-opted the term.
>>108626440at least they don't cancel everyone who doesn't agree with them...lol
>>108627173>because it can be gathered from context that the gender is maleyes usually when you talk about someone you know their gender if it's not some weirdo troon so you use he/she. I've seen anyone use they in a conversation outside of referring to a group of people.
>>108627150I even got you an example and explained to you how english lost the second person plural.How many languages do you know that do not have a second person plural? It's only english, right? Maybe some African tribe somewhere?The languages with honorific forms still additionally kept their second person plurals.Only English lost it, to my knowledge... but does that mean that the very idea of a honorific form wasnt imported? Of course not.They copied something and it resulted in something unique (and very fucking dumb).Trannies promote retarded trash.Everybody experienced the consequences of the lost "thou" at some point. When you didnt know whether the "you" is you as a person or as a group.And trannies want to expand this unique retardation by making third person plural indistinguishable from third person singulars.It is dumb. It is made up. And all the arguments for it are plain wrong."It" is the correct pronoun if you want to be of undecipherable gender. "It" is not for inanimate objects, that is made up.>muh shakespearWas some dude writing children stories. Romio and Juliette isn't that grand masterpiece Anglos make it out to be. English doesn't have any great literature, because of its rapebaby status. It's a crippled language.German and Russian literature is on a completely different level. There is no english equivalent to Goethe. And english-only-language speakers don't know what they miss out on, because they can't even think in a language with a proper vocabulatory.
>>108627173>Singular they is used in contexts where the gender is not clear.That would be "it", which makes it clear that it is singular. No confusion possible.If you use "they", which only a tiny fringe group does, you don't know whether it is plural or singular and have to get this from the context, which doesn't always exist.And what then? Will we then use "they'll' for the plural like some do "you'll"? Would this be a preferable outcome? What is the endgame here?
okay:>someone left their umbrella outside of the office, could you find out who they are and call them to pick it up>if anybody knew about that secret, they'd be disgustednot okay:>this is my roommate Lexy, they are very kind and I like to play video games with them>the HR person called me and they told me it was pride month and so I had to put up the decorations for them.
>>108622213>protest fork from nocoders that nobody's actually taking seriously and keeps promising features that are always 2 weeks away>lead dev already got banned on several forums for being obnoxious but keeps shilling here non-stop>but hey they apparently hate fags and trannies even if they have a tranny screenfetch on their main repo>almost 300 replies this place has become so fucking retarded it's actually unbelievable>inb4 hurr durr redhat trooneat shit and learn to make some actual fucking software you drooling retards
>>108627401>protest fork from nocoders >literally thousands of PRs since launching and marked improvements to X11 Where do you retards come from?
>>108627401>Have silly misunderstanding between an operand>Have autistic retard who can't read it either way hounding you foreverAt least you proved the general IQ of the dipshits who are frothing at the mouth over xlibre.
>>108622436>basedtchlandtf wrong with germany? they either have hitler or troons, nothing in between.
>>108626479"They" is generally only used if the person is a mystery, it's not intended for use casually. Which is why using it breaks a lot of grammar rules. "He/She runs" vs "They runs" for instance.
>>108623766>kill faggots>none of this problems occurThe problem with modern western societies is they are too soft to do what needs to be done.
>>108627654hey, i know /g/ is a popular place for ESLs to hang out, but it's "they run" regardless of whether it's singular or plural
>>108623283Are you the samefag seething about bicha in every thread? Because I think I was with you in that old thread when we discovered he was a sister rapist as the first result of his name on google.
>>108623818>>108622213Update: lil cunt now wants to make the broken Xlibre references (That he broke btw) redirect to the generic Display Server page. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/General_recommendations#Display_serverThis would be like googling 'Ford Bronco' and the only article you're allowed to click from that reference is the 'Car' disambiguation. Not even he understands what the fuck to do. His first plan was to dump everyone onto the Xorg page and the Xorg page maintainers said "No, fuck you, this is Xorg, that is Xlibre" and now he's coping with this shit. He's literally proving that he didn't have a plan with this. He just woke up one morning and chose to be a cunt. This asshole is an admin on the wiki btw.
>>108627705*admin on the wiki that wasn't contributing for months before thisfixed
>>108627705btw he already erased and deleted the former XLibre page permanently. He doesn't have a snapshot anymore, and the direction goes straight to the general display server page https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xlibre
>>108627762>I mean, sure? It would just be another page at this point. Though for it to make sense as a standalone page, it should have some content. Besides the installation instructions (already in the AUR comment as pointed out above), there was only a mention about TearFree being enabled by default on some chipsets. -- Alad (He's also changing his story about why he deleted it. You can go to his talk page and now see that he's walking back his reasoning for deleting the page. From "MUH COC" to now "Well there was nothing to lose anyway there wasn't any content there :^)" This doesn't sound like the sound of winning. It sounds like someone trying to backstep now that they've finally got pushback for once in their lives. This means the pressure is probably working and he's finally conceding points to let the page come back.
>>108623852what do RH and others win by making a protocol the norm? It took almost 15 years for wayland to become serious, it's just some devs working on it, while their shills defend their behavior, and others attack it. No conspiracy here, just Foss retardation in its finest form.People hated X way before redhat became a thing, You can read the unix hater handbook for that. People want a better solution, so they made wayland, but they failed, and they wanted to force their bad solution into every one, and foss being foss they attracted mostly troons and retards. The same with rust.
>>108627779>>108627705Sauce: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Talk:XorgIt's actually pretty funny, all the Xorg page maintainers are totally out of the loop and are thinking that's a retarded reason to delete a page as well, but he doesn't have the seniority to just go nuke all of them like he nuked everyone defending XLibre.
>>108622213Ok?They still cannot stop people from installing it and them still trying to push back so pathetically means that fear XLibre.
>>108627787>what do RH and others win by making a protocol the norm? Vendor lock-in. RH's whole business model is selling tech support. You cannot do this on a model that doesn't allow DRM. Wayland's entire focus when it was founded was to be used on Kiosks and other locked-down business machines. It was never meant for general desktop replacement in its infancy. That was added later when they realized that if they made a locked down display server with DRM included, then they essentially have the market cornered. It's the same logic behind why everyone blitzed to implement SystemD in every corporate-aligned distro. With a generic init system + associated software, they effectively had vendor lock-in that few people would be able to change without breaking everything. SysVInit's primary advantage since the 90's was that it was VERY flexible. You could have init scripts on completely different media from / and it would work just fine, you could hot-swap init scripts to make different configurations per-startup. You could have multiple init systems running in parallel, all at once, and it didn't care. But if you did this, you wouldn't need Canonical or Red Hat tech support. You could set a system up a thousand different ways, and they would just have to deal with it. Hence, sabotage of the open source and free software movement to force everyone to adopt a standard, that they control of course.
>>108627798>They still cannot stop people from installing it No, but if they take it off the wiki and shove it into a little corner most newbies will completely overlook like here >>108627762 then most people will not ever see it or understand why they should use that over Xorg. It's effectively shadowbanning the project from the largest source of Arch knowledge on the internet. And Arch is still the most installed version of Arch Linux, the other flavors don't even come close. That's why all of this is a retarded precedent and is so fucking stupid, they could do the same with ANY project. Just find some problematic shitlord and there goes your visibility to 90% of the Linux community. EVERYONE uses the Arch wiki, it's the definitive guide to everything Linux, the Debian wiki is an embarrassment by comparison.
>>108624873>whiteAbsolutely case sensitive to what you are.
>>108625772>vaxxie who still sucks big pharma's cock 5 years after the fact now is sucking big tech's cock
>>108626378>What's happened so far is it's been added as a note to General recommendations#Display server. That seems like a good place for it, and probably how this will settle.That's a fucking terrible place for it. Not only does it not answer anything about what an Xlibre is (You think anyone who is trying to install a display server will know what that is?) it also doesn't cover any of the use cases or AUR problemsRetarded spiteful little faggot option all around
>>108627876two more weeks nigger
My sides.
Congratulations commies you slid the thread arguing about pronouns
>>108624610B A S E DASED
>>108624965is vivaldi available on bsd yet? I'm not switching browsers.
>>108625198Devuan still werks :)>>108625370have you not seen the X is trans screenshot on the same github page? XLibre is making fun of all culture warriors at the same time.
Troons are the ones writing the code, their dominion on Linux is legitimate. Not happy with their decisions? Write your own code and manage your own distro. They are right to fight back against antitroons.
>>108622488gaslighting with redditor logic won't work on anyone but redditors
>>108626323Jesus this board is retarded.The number one XLibre shill is pro Jewish
>>108627702answer his question
>>108627932the usual tacticsif they can't silence you they just shit everything up as much as possible
>>108627792>even xlibres competition calls this decision retardedKEK
>>108622213this made me switch to gentoo (binary)
>>108628640>binaryFag
