When did you finally realize Gnome was right all along and outgrew your rebel phase?
>>108624754What's the use case of an apology?
>>108624754Nah. Not interested in the retarded tablet style workflow.The desktop paradigm was perfected 50 years ago, which is why ubuntu (which you probably use otherwise you wouldn't make this retarded thread) has to completely unfuck gnome to make it remotely useable for anyone who's ever sat at a computer.
>>108624754What makes you think rebellion is a metric?
We have this thread three times a day and nobody posts any new bassi content.I was poking around at his old coding livestreams the other day and noticed that he hasn't done one in ages. Maybe he had too much chat patrolling to do and viewership isn't a metric.
>>108624754kys spammer
>>108624815>which is why ubuntu (which you probably use otherwise you wouldn't make this retarded thread)>ubuntuewi don't use anything other than fedora and arch with stock gnome.
>>108624860One time me and my cousin touched wieners.
>>108624823Did you go to his lives to harass him?
>>108624754April Fool's Day was like 2 weeks ago, OP.
>>108624754
>>108625270?
>>108624972who said harassing is a metric?
>>108624754What's the use case of outgrowing my rebel phase?
>>108624754GNOME is one of the best things the linux ecosystem has, but of course the retarded community complains about it. Who cares though, the corporate distros and their customers (the only people who matter) went with GNOME.
>>108624823The linux community is too much for me, and that's just seeing them from the periphery. I cannot imagine the absolute BS Emmanuelle had to deal with. Just imagine the most spiteful toxic brat children who complain at you no matter what you do for them.
Notice how gnomies never post any screenshots of their dumpster fire. They are embarrassed themselves.
>>108627205truke droppedbut valve needs to repent and switch to gnome. if they respect their customers.
>>108624815>The desktop paradigm was perfected 50 years agoWhat desktops were there in 1976? Are you saying the Xerox Alto was perfect?
>>108624754fuck off and kys
GNOME got their own cartoon, damn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9DofskLbN8while KDE just has Konqi porn.
>>108624754>try gnome>not perfect but works>try kde>krash
>>108624754What makes you think realization is a metric?
I use macOS and linuxI noticed that GNOME tries but really fails at being similar to macOS. There are hints of similar behavior within applications like Nautilus and some of its bundled software, even down to the defaults, but it's a really, really cucked version of it. It mimics its inability to create new files from a context menu by default, unzipping files directly rather than having something (like file roller) open up, folders are not arranged by default to be a the top of the list, there's little shitty things that it tries to do that clearly it absorbed from macOS. While fucking up other things like having a practically worthless top panel, not providing an actual alternative to tray icons and having the most minimal (feature wise) file manager I've seen where you can't even save view settings per folder. I find it kind of insulting that people shit so much on Finder when software like Nautilus exists that provides nothing but a fancy UI.
>When did you finally realize Gnome was right all along and outgrew your rebel phase?After my i3-gaps tinkertranny phase and wanted something that Just WorksHowever, shortly after that, I outgrew my Gnome phase and found KDE Plasma 6
>>108624754Wannabe apple
>>108627211He's the reason we didn't have an icon view in the file picker for 30 years. His ego literally set us back decades.
>>108628518>GNOME tries but really fails at being similar to macOSit doesn't>inability to create new files from a context menu by defaultyou can. gnome allows you to setup template files and to create files using those templates from the context menu. drop an empty file.txt in ~/Templates and it will show up in the context menu. or drop a template html file or whatever you need.>unzipping files directly rather than having something (like file roller) open upbecause that's enough 99% of the time. you can always right click and open in an archive manager when needed.>folders are not arranged by default to be a the top of the listmany people prefer them that way. but you can always change it in the settings.>there's little shitty things that it tries to do that clearly it absorbed from macOS.like?>While fucking up other things like having a practically worthless top panelit's used to display indicators like date, time, battery, volume, networking etc... you know, shit that every panel is used for. you can also click on the indicator to open menus and control shit.>not providing an actual alternative to tray iconsusecase for tray icons? they are harmful and should have never existed.>having the most minimal (feature wise) file manager I've seenit's pretty feature complete.>you can't even save view settings per folderthat's a bug not a feature. Gnome devs already replied to this saying that they tested the feature before and found out it was confusing for everyone except for Finder users. so they decided to not have it.Gnome devs aren't trying to copy MacOS.
>>108628902>you canI said by default. You can also, not by default, achieve that on macOS.>because that's enough 99% of the timeexcept when it fails to open them or they're passworded or are anything basically but a simple archive, or when you need to take out just one file very quickly>many people prefer them that way.This is -only- a default in macOS and Nautilus, and the latter didn't have this as a default for the longest time. It is directly a macOS default planted into GNOME. People who prefer it are macOS users, people who are accustomed to use macOS, or people who have only ever used GNOME 40 onwards and nothing the fuck else in their lives.>like?Have I not provided enough examples? The launchpad? The silly big control center/notification area? The way it handles workspaces?The reason it's not a carbon copy is because they can't handle it.>it's used to display indicators like date, time, battery, volume, networking etc... 70% of it remains unused because tray icons are forbidden, and they couldn't find a better use for the left area of the screen than a fucking workspace indicator and switcher. You could plant tasks or a global menu there but instead it's just a whole bunch of nothing because you cannot do your job, the colors distract and confuse you.>usecase for tray icons? they are harmful and should have never existed.in absence of a taskbar, providing a way to check if an application is running without moving a finger, for instance. In practice a good number of programs have tray area icons and functions.Explain thoroughly how harmful they are and why you have -not- provided a proper replacement yet.>they tested the feature before and found out it was confusing for everyone except for Finder usersThat would be a patent lie considering it's a feature in most file managers and some even enable it by default (like Windows Explorer, which is something most PC users still use). The only ones confused here are GNOME devs.
>>108628826His takes are usually correct, so I’d need to know the reasoning for it. He has no patience for retards, as seen here.
>>108629008>I said by default.that's a default behavior. there is 0 reasons to give you a built in template for text files. you are in control of your templates.>or are anything basically but a simple archivewhich is what you are dealing with 99% of the time as i said>It is directly a macOS default planted into GNOME.no proof. gnome devs don't copy a pattern unless it's tested and proves convenient for most users. when a feature that was only intuitive for macos users was tested and proved confusing for others they removed it. as i mentioned.>Have I not provided enough examplesinvalid ones>The launchpadfullscreen launchers aren't a macos thing. many operating systems have them. Gnome has a vision of working both on mobile phones and desktops. so a fullscreen launcher works well for that.>The silly big control center/notification area? that looks nothing like MacOS>The way it handles workspaces?lol, it's nothing like macos. macos workspaces are completely and utterly useless. Gnome blows it out of the water. only someone who hasn't used both and just going off vibes would say that.>and they couldn't find a better use for the left areawhy would they? text is horizontal. they need to allocate horizontal space to display it. that's a panel. it doesn't matter if there is space left. there is nothing you can do about it. filling it with something not needed just for the sake of filling it is stupid.>You could plant tasks or a global menugnome doesn't have a taskbar and global menus are a bad thing.>In practice a good number of programs have tray area icons and functions.yeah, and that's a bad thing. and a good desktop doesn't support outdated bad patterns.besides the fact that tray icons were a total hack on linux. before the background apps xdg portal. which is the only reasonable solution.>that would be a liehttps://discourse.gnome.org/t/feature-request-set-view-display-per-folder-more-view-option-in-file-chooser-picker/21872/4
>>108629069Is this… the man himself?
>>108628478that was awesome!
>>108629069>there is 0 reasons to give you a built in template for text filesIt does not matter, that is not a default. That's the point here.>which is what you are dealing with 99% of the time as i saidNo, most archived files are not simple zip files. There's a mix of different formats everywhere these days.>invalid onesSays you.>fullscreen launchers aren't a macos thing. many operating systems have them.it's been a feature on macOS/OSX for longer and GNOME's launcher is the closest thing to it. It's obviously unlike Windows fullscreen launchers. It's not like Android's either.>macos workspaces are completely and utterly useless.You have dynamic workspaces the same, you can create them by maximizing applications. You can drag application windows into different workspaces (and create workspaces as well with those). What is it that you cannot do with macOS workspaces specifically? You can't drag applications from your Launchpad into new workspaces, is that it? Can you side by side split windows fullscreen without any bars or borders showing up on a new workspace on GNOME? I'm curious as to how doable is that.>there is nothing you can do about it. filling it with something not needed just for the sake of filling it is stupid.Or, or you could fill it with something useful, but no. There's nothing that can be done about that, apparently. >gnome doesn't have a taskbar and global menus are a bad thing.Great observation that the feature that could be implemented isn't implemented. Global menus bad ok, great argument there too.>yeah, and that's a bad thing. and a good desktop doesn't support outdated bad patterns.thing bad, because... bad >https://discourse.gnome.org/t/feature-request-set-view-display-per-folder-more-view-option-in-file-chooser-picker/21872/4>We testedOk can I see the fucking papers ebussy? Can I actually check how many people specifically participated in this little test that supposedly confuses so many people?
>>108629126The quality of life RMS is accustomed to is living in a University office btw, a Red Hate Corporate Shill should not be throwing shade.
>>108629177>No, most archived files are not simple zip files. There's a mix of different formats everywhere these days.nautilus can open pretty much every archive format.>it's been a feature on macOS/OSX for longer and GNOME's launcher is the closest thing to it. It's obviously unlike Windows fullscreen launchers. It's not like Android's either.it's more like android than macros. but it's a copy of neither. and you have nothing to prove it was inspired by macos.>workspacesmacos doesn't have workspaces. macos workspaces are static. gnome has dynamic workspaces. they are created as you fill them. and deleted as you stop using them. you never have to add or delete a workspace. also you don't create workspaces by maximizing applications.you have to use gnome to actually understand the difference. i have used both. and it's not nearly as similar as you might think.>Can you side by side split windows fullscreen without any bars or borders showing ugnome doesn't have any borders or bars. it uses client side decorations and headerbars, which are a part of the app itself.>or you could fill it with something useful,like? there is nothing useful that can be added there. global menus are a gimmick.>thing bad, because... badusecase for app running in the background when i deliberately click the X button which is understood to mean "close the program"?>Ok can I see the fucking papers ebussycontact him on matrix
>>108629243>doesn't have workspacesdynamic workspaces*
>>108624823Use case for streaming?
i don't like C++ or X11. i understand that we ''''need'''' to use legacy/shit technologies sometimes. also, i believe GUI programs on your computer don't all have to look the same. hell: there are even programmers who make GUI applications in Java + Swing, and think that's remotely acceptable.however, the question i've been asking for decades is:why not Tcl/Tk?
>>108624754windows solved GUI over 30 years ago. shove your form up your ass, OP.
>>108629294>why not Tcl/Tk?Seriously? Because it's a horrid mess
>>108624754Why does ebussy have a beard and no moustache? Is he a muslim?
>>108629371you know too much boy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6oZthDtpbg
>>108629371Bassi is an Italian surname, so he's White (and doesn't look mixed either), and he lives in a first-world, Western country. Most likely either atheist or Christian judging from that. The reason why he has a beard but no mustache is simple, he prefers that look. People shave certain parts of their face but not others to achieve a certain look.
Gnome looks like shit, and using a foot as their logo keeps me and many others far away from it. Clearly just someones fetish disguised as a passion project turned into popular DE because distros need to appease the lowest IQ users.
>>108629294>there are even programmers who make GUI applications in Java + Swing, and think that's remotely acceptableThanks for acknowledging my existence. Swing is really good still, and can look modern if you're not a complete midwit. Nothing wrong with Java or Swing. Tcl/Tk is gay.
