How much do you really need to spend on a motherboard?
>>108626259No more than $200.
The one i'm looking at goes used for $600 and retailed for $1000. it's one of those big dick behemoth 7 slot PCIE server motherboards.pic related, this motherboard fucks. ASUS makes the best boards.
Just use the one that comes with your Apple computer
>>108626428You mean the one with 8gb of soldered ram?
>>108626259Buy the cheapest one from a reputable brand that has all the ports you need
>>108626259Depends on your use case.
>>108626259>How much do you really need to spend on a motherboardWhat will you be using that the rig for? Will it be generating you returns or help you expand your skillset? I mean the looks of that mono alone are probably worth it but as an adult you just have to try to be somewhat reasonable and ask the hard questions.
not that much, just about i/o really. i got the cheapest am5 board with x8/x8 bifurcation for dual gpu use
>>108626259That depends on you anon. For something like a gaming board, the only real features that matter are bios flashback, a digit postcode readout, and maybe the ammount of m.2 slots. Other than that it's all about aesthetics really. Hedt and boards for server applications have some nuance, but gamers are struggling to cope with that fact that there's no real use for having more than one 16xpcie slot, two ram slots, and two or three m.2 slots. That's all you need for a desktop now days.
>>108626259depends what you want out of your computeryou can't overclock on the cheaper boards
>>108626423>ASUS makes the best boards.AHAHAHAHAHAHAFaggot.
>>108629263>but gamersMany gamers buy ITX boards checkmate faggot. Have your head shoved too far up your own arse. Remove it.
>>108629299asus has the best bios
>>108629307The point is brand loyalty is retarded. Nothing prevents Asus putting out a shit board which has happened a few times.
>>108629322>a few timessounds like they have a good track record. why would i buy anything else unless the board was confirmed shit?
>>108629307I really don't get whenever people say this shit.Cumulative time spent in a BIOS is a few minutes at most for the entire time you own the board.I've had every board vendor at this point and I never gained and real preference.
>>108629307i prefer msi, their try it memory feature is nice
>>108629303Gamers are constantly complaining that mobo companies are getting rid of their pcie slots which they never provide a usecase for. Anyways this goes for anyone using a consoomer platform. If you need and can shell out for lots of nvme storage, then you should probably get an hedt platform instead.
>>108629329Ironically when they've only released a handful of HEDT boards you got a good chance of getting fucked by Asus. They have the lion's share of complaints and outright dead boards for their high end boards like the WRX80 Sage or ROG Dominus Extreme.It's honestly enough to make me think Asus just despises this category of boards to not build them right
>>108629385The use cases are 10g+ networking, even more NVMe, capture card or even an HBA>inb4 they don't NEED X and Y
>>108629408You don't need it. And if you do then you should invest in an hedt platform. Like I said. You can get 10gig m.2 cards, or just get a motherboard with 10gig.
>>108626423>pic related, this motherboard fucks. ASUS makes the best boards.Lol no, I have ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WiFi II at work with Threadripper 3995WX. This shit freezes at full load even on latest BIOS, and it's not due to thermals (which you can't even monitor under Windows). Their BMC module also can't be disabled due to BIOS bug, so it always creates virtual screen that sometimes takes precedence over physical monitor, and since winshit only draws login manager on a single monitor you have to type your password blindly looking at black screen.You clearly have no idea what are you talking about. If it were my money I would rather buy mobo from more reputable brand like Supermicro.
I paid the same for my itx asus board as the 9700x cpu which is kinda nuts, mobos used to be cheaper I feel
>>108629445You don't need an HEDT platform for that shit tho.Just a somewhat sane layoutIt is interesting that for all the excesses of desktop boards that PCIe is the thing with "no use case"
>>108629595If you want to repourpose consumer desktop hardware for a server usecase then sure, having better pcie expansion would be nice. What are you going to plug in? Networking? Ok 99% of modern atx boards have enough slots for a gpu and a <100gig nic. Hba? Stop putting harddrives in your desktop. Even then you can still fit one. Nvme storage? You can easily have 16 - 24TB on a modern board with m.2. If you NEED more then you would probably benefit from an hedt platform with it's more robust pcie and memory bandwidth. The price of the hedt platform over a consumer platform is also not going to be as noticable when you're spending thousands on nvme storage.
>>108626259me? nothing, i have one (two actually) already
>>108626259Just buy the cheapest board that has a good enough vrm for the cpus you plan to use and the io you requirepay a little extra if you prefer a specific brand
>>108626259$200-250 should be enough to get a good board of the highest chipset and decent VRMFor the latest gen the MSI Tomahawk seems to fit the bill for most people.
>>108626259Spend as much as you can on a motherboard without paying for shit you don't need. Don't bother with anything under $150. The motherboard is the part in your computer with the most components, each one of those components is a chance for the manufacturer to cheap out. This makes it the weakest link in your PC that can bring the whole thing down. Even the IO panel, and its reliability, has a huge impact on the quality of your PC experience. Now, if you want to maximize performance per dollar you go with the cheapest motherboard since it has the least impact. If you are building for reliability and the best experience you never cheap out on the motherboard. A good motherboard can be the ideal foundation, letting you cheap out on other components that you can update later if necessary. While a good motherboard is crucial, more money doesn't translate to better quality. Manufacturers market motherboards the same way cases are marketed where it's all about appealing to gamer aesthetics. It ends up being all about everything except component quality and money gets you nothing other than fancy LEDs. Your best resource ends up being customer reviews to know if a specific model won the design lottery or if it's a dud. The motherboard 99% of us get to buy are cheap abominations even when you're paying hundreds of dollars. It would probably cost a minimum of $500 for a company to make a quality motherboard but there is no market for it when consumers want to spend every dollar possible on the CPU and GPU. It's a sad state of affairs where the most important component gets the fewest resources.tldr: No less than $150 but no more than $350. It's all about finding the model with the fewest duds.
>>108629448>SupermicroUhh...
>>108629448I'm on linux not winbloows. i'm also looking at the Incel version and not AMsneeD.
>>108626259Crazy how motherboards suddenly went past $100 for the flagship tier ever since PCIE 4.0 was introduced. It's fucking absurd how nobody talks about how much they hiked the prices for motherboards.
>>108629385>which they never provide a usecase for.more sata portsmore usb portssound cardnetwork cardcapture cardupgrading your rear i/o with any desired expansion cardaccelerator cards of other types than just video cards or sound cards
>>108631037it was bone easy to run a quad core haswellit's a lot more difficult to run a 16 core zen let alone an intel housefire
ive never paid more than about $80 for a new board. people fall for overpriced shit
>>108626259Good rule of them is It should cost as much as the CPU does
>>108631037It is partly because boards require 6-8 layer PCBs for DDR4, PCIe 4.0 and beyond. The most of the mark-up is because motherboards show how much v/tard whales were forking for silly gayming GPU SKUs and figured to jump the bandwagon. Gayimng-themed motherboard start commanding north of $299. A tier that use to only be reversed for workstation-tier hardware (ECC, dual socket, HEDT-tier CPUs etc)
>>108626428What's a computer?
>>108631185A miserable pile of DIMMs!
>>108631163I paid the same for my current motherboard 5 years ago but it is PCIe 3.0. Otherwise has all the connectivity and features I need. I doubt I'd ever find one (new) at that price again, sadly.
>>108626259€247
>>108631185The motherboard is the computer.
>>108626259$200
