so frustrated with Wine that I went and baked this
having trouble running a VN, keeps glitching
this is because i'm doing

wine game_folder/game.exe

and not

wine game.exe

doing wine game.exe just werked
why the fuck is Wine like this? shouldn't all paths just work relatively?

Today marks 1 week of switching to Linux for me. I don't know what to do now, everything just works.

>>108628994
now install Arch

>>108628949 it's not the same. The working directory if you run wine game.exe is the game directory, while running wine gamefolder/game.exe makes the working directory be the directory before it which naturally might break any files th3 game loads using relative paths.

>>108628949
write a script
cd "game directory"
export ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE
ANOTHER ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE mangohud wine game.exe
make script executable and use it like a shortcut

>>108629004
what i mean is normal unix program behavior is to work relatively. why is wine not acting the same way?

>>108629011
relative paths are always relative to the current working directory, not the executable location
this is true on both linux and windows at the OS level

>>108629024
Which is why you can run cp file.txt newdir/file.txt , because the working directory is the one your shell has open while cp is in usr/bin

>>108629024
what i mean is, if i run

wine game_folder/game.exe

from the /home/user folder
or if i run

wine game.exe

from the ~/game_folder
shouldn't the same thing happen?

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>>108629003
I already did

>>108629070

programs don’t run “from where the exe is”, they run from the current folder
wine game.exe works because you’re inside the game folder
wine game_folder/game.exe runs it from the parent folder instead

the game loads files like data/file.dat
that path is relative to where you launched it, not where the exe is
so:
in the game folder it finds ./data/file.dat
outside it looks for ./data/file.dat in the wrong place

same exe, different working folder, different result

>>108629093
>programs don’t run “from where the exe is”, they run from the current folder
I know this, anon. I think you misread what I wrote.

I'll say it again as I know this is fucking confusing.

1.
I tried running game.exe from the home folder
ie. /home/anon and the command i ran was

wine gamefolder/game.exe

this ran the game exe but the game came out garbled, fucked up text etc. meaning wine is running the correct exe, but it's just running it in a fucked way.

2.
i then tried cd'ing to the game folder
and then running wine game.exe
this worked perfectly

i only ran wine gamefolder/game.exe because i'm so used to tabbing and autocompleting paths from the home folder (using fish, not sure if this is a cause of why things are fucked, but i doubt it as everything else just werks)
what i'm complaining about is the game coming out garbled, but wine does run the correct exe, it just runs it weirdly.

>>108629146
working directory

>>108629165
you've said that multiple times now but I don't think I'm misunderstanding you. I know what the working directory is, tried to point out that the working directory being different shouldn't matter given I am calling a program to run another program using a relative path to the correct exe which ends up running.
If it's more complex than that, then idk.

>>108629173
the working directory is the path where you evoke wine from

>>108629222
i know, anon.
just for example, if i run cat from the home folder (so the home folder is my working directory) and point it to a file in another folder lets say /home/anon/game/game.txt
and then i try to run cat from that folder and do cat game.txt, i get the same game.txt show in my terminal.

>>108628942
that fuck, how did they make krashes look acceptable?

>>108629453
He removed the borders and added some padding.

do you use bash or zsh? why would I want the latter?

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What's the Linux equivalent to Device Manager, without having to use a terminal? My Bluetooth radio sucks ass and on Windows I always have fix it by power cycling it with Right-click > "Disable device" > Right-click > "Enable device" in Device Manager. The only GUI options I can find for disabling Blueototh just disabling the Bluetooth driver, which doesn't fix the issue because I need to actually cut power to the radio.

I did create a script I can launch from my desktop to power cycle it, but it's also extremely annoying that it asks me for the root password each time to disable a device. I mean, isn't half the stuff in any desktop environment just a limited form of privilege escalation anyway? Something like this really needs to be made possible with one click and no root password.

>>108629934
your best bet is finding a way to run the script without needing to type in your password

I am very used to Quake style terminals from my Mac days but they don't seem to work that well on Linux.
Convince me that there's a better terminal workflow to use.

Why would anyone use GTK when Qt exists???

>>108630372
Xfce is just so pretty, it's hard to abandon in favor of LXQt

>>108629934
I am pretty sure you can set up permissions so that non-root users can mess with your device. I've never done device rules though, so I don't know exactly how you'd do it.

Some help with Dolphin.

I got a microSD permanently stuck in as a media drive, thing is it normally shows up as a removable on the "disk and devices" system tray widget and on Dolphin. I already googled a bit and found to add an udev rule to mark it as non-removable.

And that works except that now it doesnt show anywhere in Dolphin's sidebar, any way to fix that?

>>108630448

KERNEL=="mmcblk0p1",ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1"

This is the udev rule used btw, dunno if it matters.

What distro should I just use if I just want a no-nonsense almost POSIX OS to switch from MacOS? I want to deal with tinkering with the desktop as little as possible, I am not a troon, I don't want to customize anything. I have heard that Debian with Gnome is the best choice for someone like me. Debian is stable and never changes, Gnome dev hate customisation. Seems great. I mostly do graphics programming.

>>108630482
Give fedora a try. You will be stuck with half a year old packages if you go full nuclear and pick debian stable. Fedora also installs less bloat compared to Ubuntu but in my experience it has been stable

>>108630502
Okay. How is the NVIDIA experience on it?

>>108630482
If you like the Mac GUI then get something with Plasma and enable the global menu bar panel. Yeah I know you don't want to customise anything, but that's the only way you're getting a Mac-style global menubar on Linux.

>>108630547
Nvidia experience is poor on all Linux distros, but specially Debian.

Systemd made a shit and now I cant sign mt documents or login with smart card. Thanks a lot fags.

>>108630547
Been using Fedora KDE for 2 months and it has been working mostly fine including games via Proton. I even switched to using native Wayland driver for Proton and have not had any related issues despite it being still considered experimental.

The only thing is a few times when I booted and input my password in the login screen instead of just getting to the desktop right away it took like 30 sec and afterwards booted me out back to login screen after like only using the desktop for like a minute at which point I could no longer login to the desktop at all and had to reboot. Same behavior every time that happened and no clue what caused it (didn't see anything obvious in journalctl) but I strongly suspect Nvidia driver not playing nice with the desktop. But when this happened a reboot or two fixed it. Still, annoying.

might switch from old power hungry 6700k to an amd all in one thing, any ryzen igpu or ryzen versions i should avoid?
was thinking of 5625u.

>>108630962
ai says best apu available right now is AMD Ryzen 7 8700G

>>108630393
I'm a long term XFCE user. I had to use a program recently that I didn't trust so I spun up a headless Debian VM to run it, only to find out it actually required Qt. I installed the LXQt DE and it wasn't bad at all. It was a bit unnerving how similar it was to XFCE but there were a lot of subtle differences. You can choose the layout in the file manager but it completely forgets if you navigate to another directory. There was a default option in preferences though. I think it was the terminal that was alt+left and alt+right for switching tabs. I don't think I figured out what the keys were for switching in Featherpad. I didn't expect a basic text editor to have tabs by default but whatever. Also we're not in the 70s any more and cursor blinking needs to die. I did set the blink timeout in the settings to zero which might have worked but I remember Qt not respecting that setting the last time I used it to any serious extent 5-10 years ago.

Overall LXQt was a good experience. Hope you enjoyed my blog, click here to unsubscribe.

>>108631125
>You can choose the layout in the file manager but it completely forgets if you navigate to another directory
Isn't it per-folder layouts like in Windows?

Hello fglt's.
I have a question about parts changes in a GNU/Linux desktops. Current DT has a fried mobo (& PSU). Debian is the OS in the SSD. Can I swap the mobo and still use the SSD as is?
(I have some other hardware options but I will regulate myself to 1 question at time)

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>>108631125
> Full DE install, instead of just grabbing QT libs
> Non recursive settings, "forgets"
> Can't check keybindings on term GUI
> Never seen a text editor with tabs

Did I subscribe to fake reviews ?

>>108631106
The ai is stupid. Today Google Gemini told me a date in 2025 is in the future.
The 8700g is a laptop cpu from 4 years ago.

>>108621165
Thanks. So how much space do heavy programs like matlab, mathematica, a C environment take on linux or do they go as user data as well?

>>108631265
>Can I swap the mobo and still use the SSD as is?
Generally yeah, if the boot mode matches the old one

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>>108631341
it says desktop

>>108631106
not looking for fast, looking for good support.
no weird wayland glitches with the vega 7 and such.

>>108631389
I have Granite Ridge APU, works fine.. why would any recent AMD graphics solution work poorly on Linux? Are there such graphics chips?

>>108631363
Ok. And crap. The fried mobo is Legacy BIOS and the replacement is early UEFI BIOS. Is that difference a problem (can I address that by making some changes in the UEFI?)

>>108631407
not sure, it's been decades since i've bought amd. making sure not to get something which would be infamous for being bad on linux.

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post piece of shit softwares

>>108631448
Why is it bad?
I use this to play W101.
What should I use instead of bottles if a better alternative exists?

>>108631444
You have to enable CSM. CSM is dogshit though. (So is BIOS)

>>108631465
I mean what's the point of changing if it works for you?

>>108631465
couldn't get cracked RE9 to get to the main menu before it crashed no matter what but adding the game to steam worked perfectly fine using GE proton 10

>>108631505
>I mean what's the point of changing if it works for you?
Mostly because I am wondering if there are better software that do a better job.
>>108631556
>but adding the game to steam worked perfectly fine using GE proton 10
I feel retarded but are there programs that allow for software/games that don't use Steam that are retard proof?

There's some software I want to use like cracked Adobe products.

>>108631649
They managed to figure out the creative suite installer very recently and I think the necessary changes were merged upstream
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Adobe-Photoshop-2025-Wine-Patch
https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests/10025

>>108631448
Works on my machine. It's the best and least bullshit WINE frontend.

>>108631494
Enable CSM, thanks.
>CSM, BIOS dogshit
I have 5 GNU/Linux machines, only 1 has UEFI. I am accustomed to BIOS. UEFI is mysterious to me.

>>108630372
Unless things have changed the only two languages you could use to write a program with qt was c++ and python while gtk had more programming languages available.

>>108630448
Most file managers usually won't add non-removable drives to the sidebar.
I think theres a mount option you can use to make your filemanager still show it on the sidebar.

>>108631125
The lxqt file manager pcmanfm is pretty underwhelming compared to thunar.

>>108629173
>>108629146
that guy replying to you is a bit retarded. yes, the same thing should happen. its a bug with wine
if where you ran a command from determined how it worked in any way, you would hear people and developers talk about this extensively. it would mean youd need to put binaries and scripts all over your system for them work as intended

>>108631465
>What should I use instead of bottles if a better alternative exists?
Lutris is usually the other wine gui frontend people use. Don't really know if its supposed to be better or worse than bottles though.

>>108631444
There's a few ways you can do it but the easiest would be to boot a live environment and try make a small 100mb fat32 partition and install the efi version of grub to it.

is there a single distro I can use (I play videogames) that won't implode soon-ish?(so no debian based, no bazzite, not nixos, no arch based)

>>108632291
Fedora. Apparently Ultramarine is Fedora with some setup preapplied

>>108632291
I am considering going the gentoo route. Apparently cachyos has gentoo instructions on how to apply patches to the kernel + gentoo now offers v3 binaries so you can even just download them if you are dealing with something mastodontic that would take forever to compile

>>108632349
oh wow ok, might do that I guess

>>108631933
I will remember your words when I install. At the moment, I have no idea what you are saying. The last (only) UEFI install I did, I made 2 changes (Legacy BIOS ON, Quick-start OFF) and it installed no problem, has worked for 4 years.

Will Nvidia issues on Linux be fixed if I keep waiting?

>>108632597
I mean it looks like they are working on it

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How do I get projectM working with VLC? I'm on Debian and I've installed vlc and

libprojectm3

but it's still not showing up in the visualizers.

>>108631733
I'm not talking about how comfortable they are to use or anything like that. Lots of shit is disabled if you don't use UEFI. Such as Resizable BAR.

>>108631911
thanks anon but the way you worded that is a bit unclear.
if the same thing should happen and it's a bug with wine that it doesn't, that's good enough for now. I might just report it.

>>108631649
not retarded but it's not really well covered here about options to play windows games mainly I think because there has been so much happening that the dust hasn't quite settled
wine 11.7 by itself is very good, should just werk in most cases
I haven't tried installing steam yet
proton is open source but again, haven't bothered to build my own because wine just werks for what I need

>>108632291
Bazzite = Fedora. It will never "implode".

How do I make .desktop files for launching appimages? Is there an automated way? Can I just place the file somewhere and have wofi pick it up automatically?

Why won't linux print commands in a script after nodejs is activated? Am I missing a command?

>be fedora 43
>always wondered why no wine updates, my wine is permanently stuck at wine-staging 11
>https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/Fedora
>sudo dnf config-manager addrepo --from-repofile=https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/fedora/43/winehq.repo
Find out the latest version is wine-staging 11.7.
How fucking wonderful indeed.
I wonder what else is utterly fucked on Fedora because of their default repositories are apparently shit.

>>108632789
And then this
> - package winehq-staging-1:11.0.rc2-1.1.x86_64 from WineHQ conflicts with wine-common provided by wine-common-11.0-2.fc43.noarch from updates
I don't have wine-common for fuck sake.

Anyone here have experience installing debian on openwrt?
>>108632789
I moved to debian. Fedora is too fat on memory. Debian saves at least 3-4gb ram at idle. Also Fedora's media codecs are AIDS to get working properly, and still don't work right "when they should." Debian just werked.

>>108632813
Fedora can be cleaned up as much as any system, by default it has beefy error log reporting services active and lots of other stuff because it's normie distro.
It's just a matter of reconfiguring that shit. When I boot up my system memory usage is less than 1GB.
But god do I hate dnf because to this day I don't simply understand how to use it. Now I don't have winetricks because it conflicts with the wine-staging so I guess I just need to keep using the old wine version instead. I don't know.

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>>108629934
I'm not a Linux user but I've heard of HardInfo beforte. IDK if that's something you're looking for

>>108632291
>debian
good but pozzed and going to get age verification AIDS
>fedora
supposed to be good but bloated, media codecs don't work
>arch
I've never had a stable experience with it
Gentoo and BSD seem like the future.

>>108632830
That makes a lot of sense due to the enterprise focus. I always blame software or package incompatibilites on the distro. Several times I ran into software packaged only for debian (and didn't want to build from source)

>>108629934
To my knowledge Linux doesn't have anything like that. Upload it on github and maybe make a gui?

>>108632908
I've been eyeing other distros but so far haven't felt like tinkering. I'm waiting for the new Almalinux to see what it is like, but if I migrate there I'm sure it has its own set of issues because it is not based on cutting edge versions.

>>108632908
>Gentoo and BSD seem like the future
for me it's chimera linux

>https://github.com/ilya-zlobintsev/LACT
New Linux GPU control application, supports everything. Haven't tried it but it is a welcome addition if it's not complete dogshit.

>script won't continue because the first command is to open terminal
>add & at the end of the open terminal command to run the second command
>it never does it
Okay, I think I need to cave and watch the 20 hour long youtube scripting tutorial

>>108632766
Can't you just open your menu/launcher and add entries there? In most DEs those usually make .desktop files.

>>108633156
>LACT
>new

>>108633203
>watch the 20 hour long youtube scripting tutorial
Or just ask Claude, Gemini or Grok and save yourself 19.9 hours?

>>108633397
>Or just ask Claude, Gemini or Grok and save yourself 19.9 hours?
I asked Gemini and it told me to do the & thing that didn't work

>>108633203
>remove open terminal command
>execute the script from inside a terminal
Alternativelly:
>$YOURTERMINAL -e [your command here]

>>108632597
You'll have to upgrade to the new card for the fix and then it'll have 3 new issues they'll never fix.

>>108633439
Ideally I want to just double click it on the desktop and go without having to left click and select
>>$YOURTERMINAL -e [your command here]
This actually worked but the other two commands don't input themselves once nodejs opens.

>>108633439
>>108633502
Ideally, you'll want to save the script into a file and use
>$YOURTERMINAL -e [your script here]
Otherwise you're gonna blow up the syntax, as it is confined to whatever is valid for the -e flag.

>>108633502
If you're trying to run commands with node --eval, might have to put them in a seperate script, as well.

>>108633566
>>108633595
So the pipeline would be:
>script 1 to open terminal to nodejs and to open script 2
>script 2 to run the commands in nodejs
Why can't I have it all in 1 script? The next line is literally a const [library] = require('") if all the script does is blindly execute it should just plop the const in there and it should work right? Or do I have to put "node" at the front of it?

>>108633612
You might be able to run naked JS with node --eval, but running scripts, or even sufficiently complicated one-liners from a flag to another command can blow up the command. You just separate stuff out into files if the syntax blows up.

>>108629453
Tela icon theme and probably the Klassy theme

>>108633612
So, if running 'terminal -e [node --eval command]' from inside a terminal returns a syntax error, you put 'node --eval [command]' into a file. If that returns a syntax error, you put 'command' into another file, at which point you can put 'node --eval' back by 'terminal -e' and point it to the file with the js in it.

can i install kde into mint?

>>108634599
You can but it won't feel great.

>>108634599
debian doesn't have a kde maintainer, the version in the repos is 4 years out of date

>>108634632
>>108634642
then should i just switch to fedora? i got into linux with mint but it's starting to feel limited when i look at other distros people use

>>108634676
Yeah, Fedora KDE will feel way better if you feel Mint is limitedm, even more so with the KDE variant being official now. Just remember to enable the rpmfusion repos for non-free binaries.

>>108634676
I have never used Fedora, I cannot say whether it's good or bad

after 10 years as a casual user of Linux Mint mostly for DVR video capture, I came across a major gotcha with USB drives, 'eject' does not sync before eject, and sync can take minutes or even indefinite time to happen automatically, so files on ejected drive can be 0 size and unrecoverable, I checked all my USB drives, exFAT and NTFS and they all have 100s of zero size files. Grok says this is a known issue.

the other gotcha is Linux allowing illegal filenames that aren't Windows legal like '/' and some other characters

>>108634785
>the other gotcha is Linux allowing illegal filenames that aren't Windows legal
Because ntfs and the NT kernel don't care about win32 permitted file names either. You can set windows_names at mount time to force win32 compliant names.
>like '/'
No it doesn't. There are Unicode characters that look like / though.

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>>108634785
I thought ejecting only worked with optical drives.
>>108634676
Just install Arch.
>>108634642
Wasn't Mint Ubuntu?

>>108629146
What you are asking for is for wine to change working directory to the parent directory of the first argument, by default. That isn’t going to happen because it’d break passing in relative paths as an argument to the wrapped exe. ‘wine ~/lame-1.2.3/lame.exe test.wav’ would fail because test.wav isn’t in the lame-1.2.3 folder.
This behavior is standard - and you can see that in your own examples. When you run ‘wine gamefolder/game.exe’ your shell does not presume you want to change your pwd to the binpath of wine (/usr/bin).
As for why the game runs but with garbled text - I would assume the game is attempting to load libraries using relative paths, failing, but not exiting because the symbols are resolved using (unknowingly incompatible) wine system libraries. Alternatively, it could be for lack of a font, or configuration, or other resources that are loaded with relative paths.
In any case, nobody runs games on windows by opening command prompt and writing out a relative path from C:\Users\User. It’s practically always a shortcut (which specifies a cwd), or in explorer.exe (which can only use the directory the binary is in).

Is it normal that Artix is such a show when doing a full system upgrade?

Never had this issue with Arch, which supposedly is infamous for upgrade issues. Suspend and wake-up stopped working and nothing seemed to help, custom sleep scripts, Zen, Normal or LTS kernel.

>>108635699
>shitshow

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Bought this piece of shit on a $60 impulse buy. Finally gave up and admitted I need to install linux on it so it's usable. What was the recommended distro for this pos?

What are good tools for inspecting differences between filesystem snapshots? I've been using kdiff3 for a long time, but it's a bit too heavily oriented towards text sometimes. And it's a pain to open non-text files from it.

>>108628942
Are they finally making KDE look good now?

>>108635715
I have a chromebook with similar hardware, slightly older. I have run Mint and Arch on it but any distro will work.

I still dont really know any meaningful differences between wayland and x11
I know they're protocols for displaying visual information. I know wayland is the newer one thats better in practice but that x11 has legacy support and infrastructure in place for it.
Like some people can identify problems related to them. I feel like I barely understand what they are.

>>108635839
Xorg was designed in the 80s for a time where computers weren't powerful enough to do actual graphics (yes, really, it's that old) so there was this client/server idea that you'd have a big iron server somewhere doing all of the rendering and your computer locally would just be a dumb display.

Over time more and more hacks were added to make it more usable for modern graphics needs, but fundamentally the design is still wrong and completely broken with lots of issues with it.

Wayland is a modern display server without all of that baggage. It is not client/server, has no unnecessary round-trips and only does what it needs to (most desktop specific stuff is left up to extensions of the protocol, the core Wayland is really minimal)

>>108635839
Wayland has/can:
>No screen tearing
>Mix refresh rates between monitors
>Lower input lag
>Much more security (open binaries can't see others unless you say so.)
>Binaries not being able to technically keylog
>Much better fractional scaling
>XWayland works well for what X11 binaries you still use
>NVIDIA drivers are getting better and better with it, especially on KDE

>>108635856
There is no need to make up issues like screen tearing and input lag. If you want to sell someone on wayland ask them to compare scrolling in firefox.

>>108635874
>make up issues like screen tearing
When I switched to linux, one of the first things I had to do was to figure out how to fix this terrible screen tearing I had. Granted, wasn't exatly hard, but still an annoyance. Dunno about the input lag, never noticed it.

Anyone has experience with proton vpn?
Do you get a config so you can do things like running it in a network namespace, or is it a use-our-app kind of deal?

>>108635893
they enabled TearFree by default now

>>108635910
who's they? X11?

>>108635907
It's one of the best VPNs out there IMO. You can either use their frontend GUI or directly use configs.

>>108635916
>directly use configs.
sounds good.
Kinda sucks I'm forced to use it, but well, it's either that or eating shit.

I'm considering getting a framework 12 - would touch screen & drawing etc work on hyprland or would i be better off going with gnome ?

>>108628942
Trying to pick a distro. Is there anything out there that has a two-phased rolling release, with something like a nightly version, and a 'more stable' version that's only like a week or two behind that only pulls forward bug fixes for critical issues and vulnerabilities?

Also good if it doesn't use systemd, or wayland. xlibre looks like a good alternative. I want to avoid machine ID, Age ID, and immature protocols(especially as GNOME and redhat are holding it back).

I don't mind occasionally having to work a bit to get things initially set up, but I don't want to have to /constantly/ be recompiling software to get security fixes and other updates.

I tend to lean towards arch-like designs but don't like it's governance. Artix seems somewhat interesting.

Debian bases are a bit slow to get updates, and I don't have much faith in debian not dying long term given their elections. .deb packages are nice though.

I don't like how closely associated with redhat fedora is. I also just generally hate how RPMs work. Seems lots of things are centralizing around flatpacks though?

I've used Manjaro in the past, but didn't like all the weird issues they tend to have, and the drama in running it.

Also, can anyone recommend a floating window manager other than GNOME and KDE that is feature rich? Currently I've mostly used KDE as I like it technically, but have been a bit bummed with some of their non-technical decisions.

>>108635931
first realize that choosing distros based off on ideology and whether something might or might not happen is fucking retarded
then install artix since you're already thinking about it, or any of the other non systemd ones like devuan or void/nix if you can look over the tranny thing everyone schizos out about
also use xfce if you want the next best thing besides kde, mate or budgie if you want something else, lxqt if your computer is dogshit and/or you don't want to use gtk based desktops

>>108635715
It will run anything, seriously.

>>108634676
Yes. Although you should use Aurora or Ultramarine instead of regular Fedora. Fedora has quirks which make those two more ideal just like Debian has quirks which make Ubuntu and Mint better options for most people.

>>108635715
Pretty much any distro will work on this, it's not that bad.

>>108635893
Screen tearing has been fixed by default on the popular DEs and distros running X11 for a long time now.

>>108635930
It depends on what you intend to do with the touch screen. For simple touch to click/drag stuff most DEs are fine so I assume hyprland would be fine too. But any more complex touch screen usage is not really good on any DE and Hyprland being keyboard-centric would probably make it worse.

>>108635973
Look, I used to say the same stuff, then the unity game engine came and screwed me, and set me back years as I can't trust them as a platform provider anymore, so I'm a bit more selective about what I decide to run and install on these days

>>108635994
>Screen tearing has been fixed by default on the popular DEs and distros running X11 for a long time now.
Using a compositor is not a fix

>>108635994
>on the popular DEs
aka I'd still have to fix it myself, gotcha.

>>108636006
You can run raw uncomposited openbox and have no tearing without configuring or fixing anything now

>>108636025
really? how do they do that?

>>108635994
>But any more complex touch screen usage is not really good on any DE

I was planning on doing drawing, and I saw that someone had already made a video on this for framework 12 with ubuntu (assuming gnome) and it looked quite good. I was just wondering if gnome had better support than others since it looks like it was sort of designed for touch at times

https://youtu.be/yltN-WbIXD4

>>108636030
Probably using the modesetting driver

>>108636030
>>108636034
The tearfree flag is enabled by default in xlibre

>>108636005
>Using a compositor is not a fix
What do you think Wayland does? Just because it integrated compositing behavior into it's display server doesn't mean it's not effectively using a compositor. X11 was built with "muh UNIX philosophy" in mind where you were meant to be able to swap the most minuscule parts for alternative options, so a compositor not being included makes sense.

>>108636006
>use DIY software
>complain about having to DIY

it's kind of funny that all of linus' daughters somehow inherited his middle-aged hairline in their 20s

>>108636050
Yes I do use a compositor when I use wayland but believe me it's not by choice. I have not heard of a valid use case for compositing whatever that means.

>>108636050
>claim it's fixed by default
>it isn't actually fixed
I'm not complaining about having to fix it, I'm complaining about some anon here claiming I don't have to do it.

>>108636076
it is fixed in xlibre, it is not fixed in xorg because it was abandoned by the developers

>>108636091
Replacing the XServer is way farer from default than any fix I'd have to do.

>>108636076
Nobody claimed (you) don't have to do it. The claim was it's fixed in the software 99% of people use. You being a special snowflake is an exception, not a rule.

>>108636127
Well I'd recommend using wayland anyway. Xlibre is worth keeping around for legacy applications and niche use cases.

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It just works

>>108636543
When are you going to stop parroting this retarded phrase? Perhaps go back to tiktok and try to find something else, zoomer faggot.

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I found this random screenshot, is this GTK on windows? And what is the theme? It looks beautiful. I think I've seen it before. Is it possible to make modern linux look like this or is this something we list with GTK2?

>>108636638
I like the font, it's soothing

>>108636638
It's like how there's plenty of Qt programs on Windows as well. It's just a GUI framework.

>>108636638
Clearlooks

I'm about to install slackware on my new puter is there anything I should know

>>108636736
That it's going to be very old school/manual compared to basically any other recent distro. So make sure to read up on how it all works.

>>108636638
alright if it's just rtfming it should be fine

oops wrong quote

>>108636641
Yes I agree, very cosy

>>108636710
That's it, thanks!

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sometimes when i start computer on my wallpaper is replaced by default wallpaper
anyway to fix this?

>>108636638
GTK is just a toolkit to make a gui program, its cross-platform compatible with any OS.
>>108636641
Isnt that just the windows system font?

>>108632291
Fedora Atomics

>>108633203
Read the one in the OP, it's pretty good

>CTRL+F gaming/gamer/games in babies first
>1 result
Right, either give me an actual recommendation for what would be best for playing Grand Strategy or I'm sticking with Windows.

why is the default for cachyOS to just block fucking everything through ufw
I spent a good few days trying to figure out why I couldn't connect anything through my local network to 3 different things running on it

>>108637244
If the grand strategy game you wanna play is on Steam you can just use GE-Proton to play it like usual these days, or use umu-launcher to run a game from loose files.

>>108637265
Yeah, but you need one of 50 billion versions of freeware autism to run that crap, which one?

>>108637285
No? You just need the latest GE-Proton if playing through Steam.

>>108637285
nta but there are literally only 2 Protons, both owned by steam, one used through the SteamOS Client and umu-launcher which is Proton without the client, because Steam is based.

>>108636633
>Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>108637309
You can remind him every thread but that doesn't stop him from being abrasive for literally no reason, 99% of what he posts is bait anyway.

>>108637303
>No
Okay so I can just install GE-Proton on windows then.

>>108637308
Not what I'm asking. What OS is best. Because you have 50 billion of these god damn things.

>>108637320
>Not what I'm asking. What OS is best. Because you have 50 billion of these god damn things.
What's your usecase?
>What?
What is the primary thing that your going to use your computer for?
If your new to Linux completely I recommend Mint for its polish and it being very similar to Windows.

>>108637264
It just werks™

Maybe on a laptop this makes sense, if you are sometimes connected to networks you don't really trust. But them's the breaks when you let someone else configure your system.

>>108637335
I stated that at the beginning. Games. Gaming. I'm beginning to see why so many people check out of trying to install this crap if none of the autists that advocate it can answer "What the hell do I install if I want to play map games".

>>108637264
>CachyOS
>based on Arch
>Arch
>A community renowned for being schizo
IT IS A MYSTERY!!!

>>108637355
Use Bazzite. It's ezpz.

>>108637244
Install Steam for Steam games, install Bottles for non-Steam games, install ProtonPlus if you want to try running games with the latest ProtonGE versions. That's it.

>>108637355
>I stated that at the beginning. Games. Gaming.
Oh sorry, I just came into the thread and I didn't read your posts before.
>I'm beginning to see why so many people check out of trying to install this crap if none of the autists that advocate it can answer "What the hell do I install if I want to play map games".
1) Not friendly
2) Can you not read? I recommended you a distro or are you so new to this you don't know that Mint is a distribution?

>>108637355
>>108637244
https://bazzite.gg/

>>108628942
I don't know if any of you Anon's remember me asking about Unity not tracking the mouse in Wine 11? I later asked how to apply a patch to Wine only to find out I had to compile it myself. Well I switched from Wine Stable to Wine Dev (Wine 11.7) and it fixed it.
>What was the problem?
Apparently Unity changed a variable pointer, so instead of using something like "Mouse_Pointer" they changed it to "WM_MouseTrack" or something and so Wine couldn't translate efficiently, they fixed it as of Wine 11.7 so just switch to Dev and wait for Wine 12 sometime next year to go back to stable, I have had any problems so far though.

>>108637363
>>108637374
Yeah, that's one recommendation. What are the alternatives? Why should I use it over something more general like whatever mint is? For example, if I go over to the emu general on vg, they list a bunch of emulators and the pros and cons etc, here it just says "it's gaming focused", okay, so what is not good at, for example is installing a browser going to take half a day because it's not "focused" on it? Because this is going to take half a day to get running I can already tell.

>>108637370
1. Don't reply to chains with advice/questions unless you've double checked the chain.
2. I come to this site specifically so I don't have to talk like I'm in some corporate setting which is what "friendly" boils down to these days.
3. Yes I am new. No I don't know anything about Linux aside from what one autist advocated on /v/, and I'm sick of the goddamn reminders to update from windows 10.

>>108637446
go to the website distrosea.com, you can try different distros in your web browser. you probably want "cachyOS" with "kde", it's the most popular on steam

>>108637446
>here it just says "it's gaming focused", okay, so what is not good at, for example is installing a browser going to take half a day because it's not "focused" on it?
No.

>>108637396
There is like 0 reason to go with wine stable

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What do you use to browser subreddits?
I just realized reddit killed the old TUI application.

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>>108637446
>1. Don't reply to chains with advice/questions unless you've double checked the chain.
>2. I come to this site specifically so I don't have to talk like I'm in some corporate setting which is what "friendly" boils down to these days.
>3. Yes I am new. No I don't know anything about Linux aside from what one autist advocated on /v/, and I'm sick of the goddamn reminders to update from windows 10.
This all rings hollow because you came in here and didn't read the OP and went through Babby's First Linux, so follow your own advice and do pic rel

>>108637244
Just install fedora and make sure to set up rpmfusion.
I saw some random windows baby youtuber do that and it just werked for them so itll probably do the same for you.

>>108637446
The other one usually used for gaming these days is Arch with KDE, which you can get easier and more automatically via CachyOS. The OS for the Steam Deck is an atomic fork of Arch with KDE as its desktop mode for example.

>>108637481
Old Reddit with RES.

>>108637479
No one told me and I've never had a problem with any stable Wines, usually its the programs its trying to interface with doing dumb shit.

>>108637481
Redlib but its not TUI

>>108637446
>Why should I use it over something more general like whatever mint is?
Mint uses an outdated kernel, drivers, libraries and desktop environments. Meaning there's a higher chance of things not working well on it. On average you'll constantly be a year behind Bazzite. So if you see "game X is now playable on Linux!" there's a small chance this won't apply to Mint until a year or two after the fact unless you go out of your way to tinker with it. It's almost like still using Windows 10 which was last updated in 2024.
Bazzite also uses a "gaming optimized Linux kernel" which is maintained by Open Gaming Collective. In some cases this alone means better performance.

>>108637492
>>108637500
Both of these are just webUI, with nothing focused on "pleasure"

>>108637503
He wants to play map painters and Paradox isn't cranking those out at such a high rate that he needs to be cutting edge, which btw, will also break all the time as well.

>>108637503
Steam uses its own shit anyway, your distro like doesn't matter.

>>108637522
Do you think a lot of people will switch to SteamOS if they ever make it public? I'm interested to see people's reactions to it if it ever does go open source.

>>108637528
Fools, all of them. But fools do exist

>>108637503
>bazzite
Please do not use this, it's so easy to break that distro, you'll need to tinker a lot to fix most of the errors. I'd recommend opensuse tumbleweed due to its latest packages & kernel + if it somehow breaks you can easily fix it by booting into a previous snapshot, basically an automatic backup.

>>108637466
See, now why the hell isn't there an expanded description of what that is in the babies first page? I saw that and wrote it off as pretty much just a list of all of them. Thank you.

>>108637477
I'm going to hold you to that anon.

>>108637483
>You didn't read
I did, and I still had questions which is why I asked. Not my fault your new user guide ain't that great.
>le chart
I've never liked these and I refuse to use them. And hell, even in it it recommends 3 seperate ones if I'm just looking for a windows like (which I'm not necessarily, I just want to play map games without it blow up my CPU).
And seeing how that bazz one isnt even listed, it tells me no one has updated it in a while.

>>108637490
k

>>108637492
>Reddit
Righttt that explains a lot.

>>108637503
Thank you anon.

>>108637510
>They'll break all the time anyway
So why should I use linux then?

>>108637548
Anon do you actually want to use Linux or are you just bad faith arguing for funsies

>>108637548
>So why should I use linux then?
I'm actively telling you not to because you are obviously going to just ruin the threads, stay on Windows.

>>108637563
I'm trying to decide whether it's worth spending half the day reinstalling everything on my computer for an OS I don't have any information on aside from "it's better than windows" because I'm sick of windows being enshittified.

>>108637548
>And seeing how that bazz one isnt even listed, it tells me no one has updated it in a while.
Bazzite is relatively new as far as distributions go, its basically the PopOS of this year/generation.

>>108637503
Alternatively mint (and debian stable in general) might break less or work better due to having older versions of packages that don't have whatever potential breaking features that the newer versions have

>>108634785

feel you anon but with after FAT32 or FAT16 file operation is done said problem does not have effect

>>108637580
Boot up a virtual machine or put ventoy on a USB and make a USB Distro and test drive Linux for a while then, just keep in mind your performance is gonna suck unless you have a separate harddrive to install the Distro to tour.

>>108637510
>cutting edge
>breaking all the time
The mental illness Debian retards have inflicted upon the Linux users is insane. No, anon, you're wrong. Just because something is updated in a timely manner intended by the developer doesn't mean it's unstable or breaking. If anything the opposite is usually true. Not getting bug fixes for 2 years is a lot less stable and secure than downloading updates on day/week 1.
We're talking about the latest stable releases, not "master", "dev" or "testing" software releases. Neither Fedora nor Bazzite are pushing out experimental/testing software aside from Bazzite's "Gaming Mode" version which is only intended for handhelds.

>>108637522
Your distro definitely matters. That's where your drivers are at, that's where mesa is.

>>108637528
SteamOS is already public. You can install it on pretty much any modern AMD GPU/APU.

Also:
Don't listen to this moron >>108637547. I'm maintaining 4 Bazzite systems for 3 years now and have several friends and family members also using Bazzite. Nothing ever broke for any of us across a variety of hardware. If you managed to "break" something then you're fucking around with the OS without knowing what you're doing and you'll break any distro much faster than you'll break Bazzite.
>OpenSuse
Sure, bro. Recommend him a distro that's even less popular among gamers than Debian is.

>>108637547
Somehow there's been two famous YT ecelebs that both ran bazzite and also ran into bazzite breaking on them.

>>108637582
>the PopOS of this year/generation.
Unstable crap that gets broken in a youtube video watched by millions of people?

>>108637586
You can achieve the same by just not updating your OS every week. At least with non-LTS distros you have the option to update to apply any bugfixes. With Mint and Debian you're potentially stuck on broken software for 2 years.

>>108637589
>SteamOS is already public. You can install it on pretty much any modern AMD GPU/APU.
The only one I was aware was out is the beta for the mobile gpu architecture (I forget what its called)

>>108637599
Linux loves Pop and I've honestly never used it cause I prefer older distros because I'm a boomer.

>>108637600
Yeah thats true. At least debian-based stuff is better at handling partial upgrades if you only want to upgrade certain packages compared to something like arch. Not sure how good fedora is at handling partial upgrades.

>>108637602
>for the mobile gpu architecture (I forget what its called)
ARM64
>>108637610 (Me)
>Linux
I meant Linux

>>108637613
>I meant Linux
FUCK, I mean Linus, ffs I need more caffeine

>>108637569
>Hey, what should I use to game?
>Don't install it
>Okay
>le 1% market share

>>108637582
>It's very new
Oh okay

>PopOS
Why would I know what that is?

>>108637588
If the performance sucks, how I supposed to tell which distro will be better for gaming?

>>108637589
If that's true I guess I'll look into OSes that aren't LTS, but I also don't like the idea of being nagged once a week to upgrade.

>>108637589
There's been at least two big name youtube channels that tried bazzite and had it break on them.

>>108637619
Yes its called gatekeeping, you should be very aware of that by now.
>1%
its actually 5% now but Linux also isn't a corporation so that literally means nothing to me.
>>108637619
>how I supposed to tell which distro will be better for gaming?
Well, do you have an extra hard drive laying around to try them out? Have you even done research to see if your hardware is supported by whatever distro you choose (It most likely will be but you should always double check just in case)

>>108637621
Fedora/Arch might notify you to upgrade but they're not going to force it on you.

>>108637589
>Sure, bro. Recommend him a distro that's even less popular among gamers than Debian is.
Visit this page, pretty please. https://metrics.opensuse.org/d/osrt_access/osrt-access?orgId=1&from=now-5y&to=now&timezone=browser&var-frequency=month&var-product=tumbleweed
About gaming, I can install steam within a single click or through the terminal by typing "sudo zypper install steam"
openSUSE is good for gaming and I say this as an openSUSE user myself.

>>108637645
>gatekeeping in a friendly thread

>>108637645
>Gatekeeping
Then rename the thread.

>I don't care about market share
You should since devs are more likely to give a shit about Linux if it's not just a rounding error compared to Mac/Windows, which will likely be the case if they keep up with the enshittification.
>Extra hard drive
No.
>Have you done research
No. Why do you think I'm here?

>to see if your hardware is supported by whatever distro you choose
Why would I need to keep that in mind? Are you telling me it matters what type of CPU/GPU I have?
>It most likely will
Mate, if it's AMD, NVIDIA or Intel is it going to work?
>Yes
Then it would be the exact same as if you have that advice for windows.

>>108637591
>>108637636
And somehow Bazzite is used by over 5% of Linux Steam users who are mostly lazy gamers who would not want to spend days fixing their PC and would prefer things to just work so they can play games uninterrupted.
If Bazzite was really this unstable there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of people using it. But the user graph is just going up and people/gamers are overwhelmingly happy with it compared to other distros.

Also one of the 2 e-celebs ignored the warning which stated nVidia GPUs are unsupported in the game mode version. He was not experiencing the distro being "broken", he was experiencing a separate variant of the distro not being compatible with the hardware he was using. And this e-celeb breaks every single distro he tries, including Ubuntu and Kubuntu, so he's not a reliable source of information.

So you're left with 1 e-celeb experiencing some failure, which means absolutely nothing compared to dozens of e-celebs who are praising Bazzite and even primarily using it as their distro on general PCs and gaming devices.

>>108637621
You can turn off update notifications on any distro.

>>108637669
Gotta keep the unfriendly out!
>>108637680
>Then rename the thread.
SWOOSH!!!

Is there any particular reason to upgrade to Ghostty/Kitty/Alacritty from the default Konsole?

>>108637680
>You should since devs are more likely to give a shit about Linux if it's not just a rounding error compared to Mac/Windows, which will likely be the case if they keep up with the enshittification.
That's what the community is for, why do you think it has been growing so rapidly? Doesn't help that there are companies like Steam who are helping push that along as well but even if we were still at 1% we would still be able to game, just in a more limited capacity.

>>108637699
>keep the unfriendly out
Then why haven't you left?

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>>108637667
Your graph means nothing. We're discussing distributions used by gamers. OpenSUSE is not even a blip on the radar.
https://boilingsteam.com/cachy-os-is-now-the-most-popular-distro-on-proton-db/

>>108637713
Kitty and Alacritty are gpu accelerated and have more customization.
Never used ghostty.
If you're happy with konsole then there's no real reason you need to switch unless you want to try something different.

>>108637713
I would use foot instead because it's really fast if you just need a terminal.

>>108637723
What's the source of this graph may I ask?

>>108637783
steam hw survey

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>>108637783

>>108637718
That's not a very friendly question to ask

>>108637790
You too as well >>108637791
It's right there, protonDB data.

>>108637810
I mean, he's not that far off. Steam hw survey and ProtonDB data have historically been very similar. The only difference is that Steam hw survey shows only 8 distros, half of which are just different versions of the same distro. So you can never be sure about the exact numbers and you can never see anything but the 3-5 most popular options. ProtonDB neatly groups distro versions (including different DE options) into single entries.

I have an RTX 4070. is it worth switching to Linux, or is novidio support still not there? primary use case is gaming. I was thinking Arch to try to run my own variation of SteamOS. I like my 'eck.

>>108637897
You'd be able to use that card on Linux fine. Just use KDE as your desktop, something Arch-based like CachyOS and install the nvidia-open driver package.

>>108637897
>nVidia
>gaming on Linux
Your RTX 4070 will perform on Linux like an RTX 4060 or RTX 3070 would on Windows. If performance matters to you then don't even bother.

>>108637923
that's what I feared. maybe I'll buy RDNA 5, but really I just want an APU for a mini-PC that consumes <90W. maybe Zen 6 will have what I want.
saw this video when searching and it shows a noticeable decrease in performance, especially noticeable at higher resolutions, across the board. https://youtu.be/fqIjUddUSo0

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https://0xacab.org/optout/plagueos
Can I trust this? If not, could I configure another distro in a similar way to this thing? Intriguing

>>108638034
>old kernel and stuff
Yeah don't trust this.

>>108637966
All AMD has to do is make a Zen6 APU thats stronger than PS5s graphics and it will sell like hotcakes.

>>108638074
next-gen is interesting because of the xbox using off-the-shelf parts, and Sony finally told AMD to give a shit about ray tracing and helped them fix their upscaler.

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>>108638084
I think AMD will be the winners of next gen. As far as I know they're the only IHV confirmed to be getting DirectX13. I'm sure Nvidia and Intel and Snapdragon will support it too but who knows when and the support will probably look like early Vulkan where AMD is ahead of the pack.

Fucking KDE Plasma just keeps breaking more and more shit with every update. I'm so sick of this shit.

>>108638146
It doesn't matter how cool or great AMD (and back in the days, ATI) was, they never won against Nvidia. They won't win next time either.
And games just isn't decisive these days, it's all about the compute for AI (or the next hot shit after it)

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>>108638068
Alright, thanks. Know anything that comes close to it?

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>>108638146
>ML upscaling
>ML multi frame generation
I guess I'm never buying anything after my ps5. Hack when btw, hw keys are out already.

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KDE Linux is shaping up very nicely. Actually impressive how far ahead they are of other distros tech wise. Still not production ready but it's hard to find reasons to not use it on your next build.

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>>108638228
ATI/AMD is the one who invented unified shaders. Its why the PS3 got completely embarrassed by 360, ignoring the whole CELL bullshit, PS3 was just a last gen Nvidia. They wished they had next gen graphics like webm related. They wouldn't catch up until DX10 era.

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>>108638158
Linux modularity makes it very easy to break these big DEs. Gnome had the same problem last year.

>>108638034
You can just look through the files and copy the relevant stuff over to another distro.
Aside from that old kernel package in the repo the rest of it just seems to be scripts and configs.

>>108638280
And yet, they didn't get the big marketshares.
I honestly dunno why

As gaben going hard on pushing arm and snapdragon x2 ist sucks ass, i have a simple question - how is a state of linux arm in practice now?

>>108638279
What advanced features does it have?

>>108638309
True, could just install Void (it's based off of it), and manually do the hardening or whatnot. Never really did that though, I'm more of a casual GNU/Linux nerd.

>>108638330
Being able to install your own OS on your PC was a lucky mistake that won't repeat itself with ARM

>>108638332
It one ups the other immutable distros by having a completely original container solution, Kapsule. Generally containers are supposed to be disposable but that doesn't work well on a desktop, Kapsule solves this problem. They're so confident in this they don't even provide a package manager for the OS. Then there are smaller things like actually making use of SystemD. They don't even use GRUB which basically all other distros use.

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>>108638034
It hasn't been updated in a long time. Why trust something like that in the first place if you're so concerned with security?

I'm new to using Void, but it's not that difficult to get setup, though I haven't hardened it.

>>108638358
Ooohh right I forgot about KDE linux (even though ironically I have it installed on my laptop), I thought you were talking about KDE itself. Yeah KDE linux might be cool too, I like that they're using arch packages as the base.

does Linux have good ultrawide monitor support?

>>108638383
Ye

>>108638330
linux on arm is fine software wise, the problem is getting linux to boot on the hardware

>>108638346
You can totally install your own OS on your own ARM device

>>108638441
not on the vast majority of them

>>108638449
Yeah, you need to think before the purchase.

>>108638279
>Actually impressive how far ahead they are of other distros tech wise
It's just a less capable version of Kionite/Aurora from what I can see.

>>108638330
ARM is just shit overall. There's no standardization like there is in x86. The architecture is designed around letting the OEM and SoC vendors completely lock down everything since ARM is primarily an architecture for appliances, not general computers. Drivers are almost exclusively made for 1 OS (mostly Android), so Linux support mainly relies on unofficial volunteer-made drivers and bootloaders (drivers made for Android generally don't work on regular Linux distros). The unofficial Linux support for most ARM GPUs is significantly worse than the nVidia FOSS drivers. The way hardware components are supported almost exclusively relies on proprietary blobs and proprietary firmware which is not allowed to be redistributed, so installing an arbitrary distro is not viable because making a distro which ships with proprietary firmware and blobs is either illegal or in a legal gray area in many parts of the world. So even if you manage to boot into a Linux distro on an ARM device, there's no guarantee that you'll have working WiFi, cameras, microphones, USB controllers, etc. There's basically only one or two SoC manufacturers which actually make Linux drivers for their hardware (and they don't even have Linux drivers for all their CPUs).
The other issue is the fact OEMs have the power to never give you access to the bootloader. With x86 you at least have BIOS and UEFI on every single x86 device. On ARM, you're generally fucked. Especially if you're outside of the EU since at least in the EU there's a requirement for devices (or at least phones) sold there to have unlockable bootloaders.
Imagine if you buy a computer but it has a BIOS password which is never disclosed to you and you cannot remove it.

Maybe the situation will improve in 5-10 years once ARM replaces x86 on most people's computers.

Is there a good guide on getting Timeshift running with Fedora (Btrfs)? I installed the defaults, made sure I was using Btrfs, but the Btrfs function in Timeshift won't work, says its not set up properly.

>>108638474
Timeshift with Btrfs only works if you've used Ubuntu's retarded partitioning scheme. With Fedora's defaults, just use btrfs-assistant.

>>108638383
Yup, been running 3440x1440p for years now with no issue.

>>108638417
>>108638346
>>108638467
So right now if you want arm pc you stuck on mac or windows.
And i assume the linux one will be gaben with his new box or steamdeck2.

>>108638467
>It's just a less capable version of Kionite/Aurora from what I can see.
So far yes because it's not really usable yet, but they're very ambitious. I agree that Fedora Atomic is the only usable immutable distro. I thought Fedora Atomic was ambitious, and they are, but somehow the KDE guys are innovating even more.

>>108638496
you can buy special computers with arm cpus. you cant really put linux on most android, windows, apple devices but there are arm pcs that are actually functional

>>108638365
Was just curious, sorry. I'll see for myself if there's any good hardening guides

>>108638496
>So right now if you want arm pc you stuck on mac or windows
Not true. You can install Asahi Linux on some ARM Macs, and a Raspberry Pi 5 is honestly a decent desktop daily driver.

>>108638496
You have better chance with Linux than with motherfucking Windows. And Apple/Macs are their own world, always have been,unrelated to Arm.

>>108638496
the Steam Frame (VR headset) is going to run ARM.

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>>108638511
No need to be sorry. I don't know much, but I really think there's something to be said for going to the original source. Void is fun. Try it out.

>>108638467
>there's no guarantee that you'll have working WiFi, cameras, microphones, USB controllers, etc.
The same goes for X86 actually. But you never worried about your USB not working there, because USB is such a boring standard and it's in the motherfucking kernel anyway.
The difference isn't with the drivers, the differene is that Bios/UEFI probes your hardware for you and tells the kernel where to find it. On Arm however, the kernel is often expected to know where to find it via the devicetree.

>60 fps locked game
>frametime is a flatline between 16.6~16.7ms with near instantaneous inputs
I'll never shitpost about loonix again

>>108638616
tell me more

Just installed ZorinOS on a different hard rive to my usual Win10. Now I'm getting greeted with the GNU GRUB "Minimal BASH-like line..." black screen. I'm not a retard but I can't find out what I actually have to do now.

>>108638629
It's for computer repair technicians. Basically your bootloader is broken. Did you unplug your Windows drive when installing ZorinOS? It's something that you have to do. You just have to look up how to use it, rare to find people who can tell of the top of their head how to use it. A simple solution to just get it to boot is to use SuperGRUB

>>108638629
unplug your windows drive
boot the installer again
in the live desktop mode see if a program called "boot-repair" is installed
if it isn't you can install it if you have internet access

>>108635758
>>108635975
>>108635994
I should have included that it will be my first linux install on a personal machine. I've used linux before at university.

>>108638629
What were you doing during the installation? Give us more info please. My guess is that you've got a faulty installation medium, did you check the zorin iso checksum?

>>108638496
If you want a high-end device, yes. Consumer ARM Linux devices are mostly older and/or weaker phones, a handful of weak laptops (ie PineBook), handheld gaming devices (ie some Anbernic, Retroid and AYN models), or things like the RaspberryPi and a few other SBPCs.
Aside from the gaming handhelds, most of these are as weak as a 2000-2010-era PC. AYN Thor, AYN Odin 2 and Retroid Pocket 6 just recently got ROCKNIX support and they have pretty decent SoCs. But still, I don't think there's any "generic" distro you could install on them and have things just work, at least not yet. I'm not sure if there's any PCs or laptops with the same SoC, but if there are it's possible they'll get Linux support soon.
TUXEDO is working on the Elite 14 but there's no confirmed release date. And they've been working on it for 2 years so by the time it comes out it will probably already be much weaker than Windows and Apple devices.

>>108638513
Asahi is barely functional even on the M1/M2 macs. Half the shit doesn't work. Even if you could buy an M1 mac for $300 it would still be a waste of money if you want to put Asahi on it. You're far better off buying some $300 x86 Thinkpad where everything other than the fingerprint sensor works.

>>108638599
>On Arm however, the kernel is often expected to know where to find it via the devicetree.
Yeah, that's basically what I meant by a lack of standards. Everything is device-specific. The closest thing we have is ARM's SystemReady certification which is essentially their version of UEFI, but it's basically only implemented in server hardware and I think the RaspberryPi devices.

>>108638681
Install Fedora KDE Plasma edition or Mint Xfce.

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>>108638624
>VRR on, MangoHud mailbox vsync with 60 fps cap (early for method), proton_enable_wayland=1
tested with Sekiro on GNOME 50, I think it'll work the same on KDE or other DEs as well. Never got it to run this fluid on Windows with Adrenalin and RTSS, 120+ fps games are likely to be even better. I'm so fucking happy rn you have no idea anon.

>>108638656
>Did you unplug your Windows drive when installing ZorinOS?
>>108638686
>What were you doing during the installation?
I just followed the instructions from their site, which never mentioned unplugging?>>108638672
>unplug your windows drive
>boot the installer again
>in the live desktop mode see if a program called "boot-repair" is installed
>if it isn't you can install it if you have internet access
Cheers I'll give this a go tomorrow when I can be arsed.

>>108638703
>Everything is device-specific.
You just need to know your device is upstreamed in the kernel and your pretty much golden.

>>108628942
dolphin deez nuts

anyone have a link to unifi protect x86 .deb installer? Seems like the file is lost media.

>>108638330
Arm booting and drivers/firmware is more complicated than x86. Even the raspberry pi which is probably the most linux compatible arm hardware is still a mess when it comes to using any distro that isn't upstream raspbian.

>>108638365
Most of that repo is just scripts and configs so it doesnt really matter if its updated if it still works.