Can somebody explain to me why nobody makes a router with 10Gb RJ45 LAN ports? It's either 10Gb SFP or 2.5Gb RJ45. Is there some technical reason why this isn't possible? Hasn't 10Gb ethernet been a standard for like 15 years now?
Because 10Gb is expensive and requires a lot of processing power. These routers and switches exist but they are made for business. No consumer is going to drop $1000+ for basic networking equipment.
>>108632211Why would a 10Gb RJ45 port require more processing power than a 10Gb SFP port?
>>108631986>nobodyWhat is Ubiquiti?
>>108631986its easier to lose zero customers who refuse to use sfp (you can buy an sfp cable and dont have to use optical or media converters you know) than have them as customers and have to answer tech support requests from people trying to use shit cables and getting shit throughputs etc.if they can sell you a converter to use a cat cable why wouldn't they put an sfp port in? they should cut out every other customer who wants to connect optical backhaul or whatever shit. no they make it more flexible and you say thank you.
>>108632377Cat6e gets you 100 meters range. Nobody needs more than that.
>>108631986Real answer: 10gb is fiber territory so having a 10gb ethernet port costs more (have to pay for the phy) while also being less flexible.They do exist though, usually seen in high end isp cpe. Mine has 2 10Gb ports.
>>108631986There are dozens coming from china, servethehome has tested and validated a bunch of them
>>108632211What a stupid post
>>108631986both of my wifi routers have 2x10gbe rj45... and they were originally issued by an isp. adtran makes some as well. they're not hard to find.
>>108632325Copper takes a lot more power to drive than photons through glass
>>108633768You know you can get 10Gb RJ45 ports on SFP modules, right?
>>108631986https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-cloud-gateways/collections/cloud-gateway-fiber/products/ucg-fiber
>>108631986One of the most discussed devices on openwrt is an ISP provided router with 2x 10Gb RJ45 ports.More are coming but the requisite for a 10gb router seems to be high end Wifi 7 support. Pure router devices with no wifi and 10g RJ45 ports where always a weird thing for "prosumers" (hate that term)>>10863384210g RJ45 copper SFP modules have always been a hack. They were never meant to exist. The first ones grossly go over the 600ma SFP+ limit. It's possible to kill ports.It's not exactly right to say it takes more processing power but the PHYs themselves aren't efficient, not until recently.
Because those things get hot as fuck and melt. Just get SFP+ fiber modules and don't be such a whiny little bitch.
>>108634093>but the PHYs themselves aren't efficient, not until recently.Yes, that is more the point.Frankly, RJ45 should just be abandoned as an interface and just use SFP+ instead. If you want copper you can get DAC anyway.
>>108634186>>108634348This tiny computer is entirely passively cooled and has a 10gbe port. Why can Apple do it but router manufacturers can't?
>>108634371>is entirely passively cooledlol.
>>108631986Because almost no one has 10gbe, your isp is almost definitely not 10gbe and adding 10gbe ports would severely cut into their margins
>>108631986>Can somebody explain to me why nobody makes a router with 10Gb RJ45 LAN ports?My guess is that a proper 10Gb all-to-all switch is expensive, needs a lot of power and makes a lot of heat, and not many people need it yet. And those who need it can buy a separate 10Gb switch. I'm preparing to upgrade to 7Gb fiber, my network would be like:>7Gb fiber -10gb wan port> NETGEAR Nighthawk Tri-Band WiFi 7 Router (RS700S) -10gb lan port> TP-Link TL-SX105 -10gb ports> computers
>>108632341$1,000+ for the build.Thank you for reiterating >>108632211 's point:>No consumer is going to drop $1000+ for basic networking equipment.Only the autists of /g/ are going to give a fuck about port speed. Everyone else either 1) uses Wi-Fi like a typical normie (because they don't need the hardwire unless Fighting Games or something like that) or 2) hardwires but doesn't give a fuck about LAN speed when they're hamstrung by ISP speed a majority of the time.
10GbE RJ45 is far less efficient and power hungry than SFP
>>108631986You can push 2.5GbE over coax, why doesn't every router come with a bunch of coax connectors anon?
>>108634708>$1,000+Looks like it's $279 to mehttps://store.ui.com/us/en/category/cloud-gateways-compact/collections/cloud-gateway-fiber/products/ucg-fiber>ree SFPGet filtered, idiot. It's got one 10GbE RJ45 for if you actually have a 10GbE WAN connection. Plug a direct SFP+ cable into a $150 switch if you have a home 10GbE network. I can only saturate 10GbE if I'm writing directly to NVMe or guzzling shit to multiple clients off multiple arrays on my file server. 2.5/5GbE on everything else is more than enough.If you actually need more than that and are insisting on copper, pay the idiot tax.
>>10863198610GbE copper is expensive and inefficient. Requires a lot of power, generates a ton of heat, will result in a high price tag where you'll then complain it's too expensive, and by the end of the day you won't have a use for the "bigger number better" which seems to be your sole motivation.Let's start with the fact that you want a 10GbE router. Is your Internet connection more than 1Gbps/2.5Gbps? No? Then why would you want a 10GbE router? If you have a genuine use case for 10GbE in your home network, so that for example you have a 1GB/s file system access over Ethernet, why won't you get a 10GbE managed switch, separate things with VLAN's if needed, then hook that up to a 1GbE router when your Internet connection is less than 1Gbps?Do you even understand basic networking concepts like that OP? Or do you want to consoom bigger number better?
>>108636739I have a 10Gb home connection
>>108634348>>108636739>>108635154>>108634611The RTL8127 NICs and recent Realtek PHYs are pushing under 2W a port.Once the price comes down there is going to be little reason to fuck with optics/modules unless you already bought equipment or really want faster than 10G.
Because motherboard and pc manufacturers have been greedy and lazy, so 1gbps is still the standard, with 2.5gbps only now becoming popular in the high end. Because of this, the production is small-scale and enterprise focused, thus expensive.
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