Why are we still developing desktop x86 CPUs
Video games, probably.
>>108634880indians
>we
>>108634880Indeed we should all be running JCU's (Jensen Compute Unit) They're run cooler cause they have a cool leather jacket on.
unless intel and AMD both get their shit together "we" legitimately might not in the near future.
>>108634880AI replaces x86.
Compatibility and inertia
>>108635224Elon, is that you?
>>108634880Non-free software can't be compiled to work on other arch
>>108634880>x86 CPUdo they though? I'm pretty sure all of those were replaced by x86-64 like a decade ago
>>108635927>32 bit in the year GTA6 - 3x86 is short for x86-64.
>>108634880ARM isnt strong enough to play UE5 games and windows doesn’t have good compatibility with ARM
this interview is very funny because jensen says moving away from nvidia and cuda is too hard and too expensive, and when told that anthropic have done it, openai's doing it, and google, amd, and amazon are muscling in on his business, building alternatives, his response is to get flustered and start yellingcuda monopoly is over
>>108636546Compile the binary for arm64 arm chips can be very fast
>>108636555Good luck doing any meaningful work without cuda. What openai/anthropic/google have done is just running the model without cuda, not training the model without cuda.
>>108636568claude and gemini are not trained on nvidia hardware lol
because arm is for fucking cattle that don't own their hardwarearm isn't even good, it's all down to tsmc's nodes being goodappoo can afford to dump money into newest nodes because they make overpriced toys for women and fags and they don't go into anything actually relevant, just data entry machines
>>108634880Are there even Nvidia drivers for ARM windows?Or a hardware platform that can both use ARM CPU and external PCIe cards to begin with?No?>why are people not using a product that doesn't even exist?
>>108636579>We train and run Claude on a diversified range of AI hardware—AWS Trainium, Google TPUs, and NVIDIA GPUs—which means we can match workloads to the chips best suited for them.https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-raises-30-billion-series-g-funding-380-billion-post-money-valuation
>>108634880because x86 is superior? ARM is ass for open source software. It's also shit at driving multiple hardware
>>108636598lmao third on the listdario's going to dump his h100s as soon as he canclaude hasn't trained on nvidia for a whilemythos was not trained on nvidiai'm sorry you're holding nvda, but the CUDA moat only existed because there wasn't enough money to justify building alternatives - that is no longer the case
>>108636597Plenty of arm boards with pcie
>>108636622Sure, two more weeks lol
>>108636668it happened months ago, sister
>>108636629proof?
>>108637009there are arm boards with standard pcie x16 slots too that look like regular pc motherboards
>>108637041those are all soldered cpu trash
>>108634880They're waiting for valve to drag their lazy asses into the future by developing an efficient x86 emulator
On my x86 PC I can install any OS I wnatMeanwhile on my ARM phone I have to use the software it came withARM fuckings sucksCf. the recent Apple Macs that can't even run Windows or Linux
>>108636699why isn't NVDA -90% then?
>>108636597>why are people not using a product that doesn't even exist?Capitalism degraded so much in the West that corporations now expect to be showered with money from customers and investors before they actually make anything.Those CEOs are genuinely mad and confused when it doesn't happen after they announce their next big shit idea.I blame Musk (or who's behind him) - he was the true pioneer of this new hype-driven economic era - Americans realized they can't compete with China in the real world long-term, so they decided to use their experience and soft-power from running Hollywood to compete in the make-believe...
>>108637821meh problem with your line of thinking is so far hype has worked financially
>>108637960It won't work forever.For example: Tesla is already becoming irrelevant.
It literally doesn't fucking matter:https://www.techpowerup.com/340779/amd-claims-arm-isa-doesnt-offer-efficiency-advantage-over-x86https://chipsandcheese.com/p/arm-or-x86-isa-doesnt-matter
>>108634880it's better than ARM at higher power usage, or something.
Would it be possible to make an ARM chip that outperforms the 9800X3D in gaming?
>>108638526Sure. An apple m5 or whatever would probably beat it but it's sold by an asshole company who don't sell it on motherboards with pcie slots and it can't boot linux
>>108638526it would need potent branch prediction, at least 4 wide integer unit, and clock would need to be near 6ghz for all logic and caches >>108638814apple's benchmark scores are all synthetic, their real world ST performance is lower than much older chips sandybridge
>>108637989meanwhile elon is almost worth 1t and growing, nah the banks and everyone agree on pumping forever
>>108634880Because ARM is a gimmick.x86 is eternal.
>>108634880>the x86
>>108634880too much professional and mission critical software runs on it>intel itaniumnext
>>108637745>Meanwhile on my ARM phone I have to use the software it came with>ARM fuckings sucksThat's because phones have hardware with proprietary drivers and are locked down proprietary platforms to begin with.Even if you managed to install a different OS you probably won't be able to use mobile data or the cameras or perhaps even the touch screen.It has nothing to do with ARM.
because amd and intel want to keep their duopoly.
>>108637989Tesla actually makes shit and will continue to make shit.I guess that's worthless tho in this culture that values office workers more than anyone else.
>>108638526both apple m5 and qualcomm snapdragon x2 elite extreme have better single core performance than the 9950X3D