HOLY BASED
>>108644000So heckin' based of them! But let's ignore Chat Control and age verification
>>108644000Plot twist: the phones eligible to be sold in the EU also have OS-level age verification and mandated government spyware, imports are banned, non-EU compliant smartphones are blocked / flagged etc
>>108644000This is fucking retarded though and will either force fatter phones with smaller battery or will mess with waterproof rating. Almost as idiotic as their new idiotic energy labels that aren't about energy use. Shit, now I remember that EU tards is why I don't get a charger too. A-at least they mandated usb c.
>>108644005Chat control was rejected earlier this year, age verification is still a problem though.
>another Bharat nation engagement threadOh good I nearly went a whole hour without one
>>10864400Not bad but that won't change only 4 years of security updates with custom ROMs being a hassle
>>108644013>or will mess with waterproof ratingThis is a meme that has been repeated for ages, but it's bullshit. Waterproof ratings can be achieved with small screws (like it is in watches) instead of glue.
>>108644013Explain how being required to give a repair manual will cripple your precious billionaire daddy’s business
>>108644000that sounds way too good to be true. there must be a gotcha with this, right?
>>108644020If you hate him so much why don't you start posting news instead so we can share your posts?
>>108644033smaller batteries
>>108644037>anon literally cannot conceive of not making twitter screencap threadsThe fucking state of /g/
Samsung HQ must be furious.
>>108644042I wouldn't mind that if it means we can get aftermarket Si-C batteries from chinkland with 1.5x capacity of the factory battery
The powers that be, despite their faults and the fact that they hate you, realize social media in your pocket was the greatest mistake in human innovation. Maybe people will date, get jobs, and contribute again once every is carrying a dumb phone.
>>108644042This would be a non-issue, because if you don't have to care about preserving the life of your battery you can just charge it to be max every time.
>>108644000>locked (proprietary) bootloader>proprietary firmware, proprietary OS, proprietary apps etc.>proprietary software that slows down all the components like Apple does>locked down limited local storage option, forced cloud storage>replaceable battery, but the phone limits it for "safety"I would rather have fully open source firmware with fully open source OS. I can solder and tinker with battery stuff, but nobody can make open source hardware and software that can connect to the phone network. These days it is illegal to connect open source software to gsm networks so they could start by opening that by creating new laws for it.
>>108644047Get with the times grandpa. Real news are posted on twitter now, not on kiked propaganda websites.
>>108644056They won't need humans soon when they will be able to automate most jobs with advanced robotics and AI. They they can go all in on agenda 2030's 500 million goal
>>108644056Who said people aren't contributing right now? I think the problem is more that we are reacting to a bunch of fake stuff manufactured to create engagement and that's an exercise of foolishness, but that's it
the end result will be apple producing a new "europhone" made of recycled parts harvested from 10 year old US phones and that being their exclusive offering to europoors
>>108644065All that stuff is fine and good, until "Western" (((leaders))) remembered they need enthusiastic and cooperative whites to counter Eastern European, Asian, and Middle Eastern ideas for what 2030 should look like.
>>108644081You had the exact same cope with USB-C.
Amerimutts must be seething
>>108644000sir we already have one active pirat nation advertisement thread over at >>108634649 your compensation will not be deposited because you did not follow the one active thread at a time rule.
>>108644000They will probably switch to something else breaking easily, the question is what
>>108644100Look at the thread, they already are.
>/g/ for over a decade: "BRING BACK REPLACEABLE BATTERIES!!!">EU: "Okay, we're mandating replaceable batteries. >nu-/g/: "NOOOOO MY LIFE IS RUINED!!!"
>>108644028Watches are having much less space for the screw to hold while also being much fatter. Guess we shall see but this might just end up with EU getting inferior phones.
>>108644000Feels like the EU is the only states pushing these laws that benefit us common plebs, thank you EU bros.
>>108644081Yeah, Apple hates money and will threaten to fuck a market that fucking big just because they feel a need to throw a hissy fit.
>>108644033>thicker, floppier phones>less battery>no more waterproof phones>more expensive
>>108644032Nothing wrong with that and totally common sense. It's where tech illiterate people want to mess with bigger design like the user-replaceable batteries is where it gets dangerous.
>>108644000this is old news
>>108644142>>no more waterproof phonesname the last time you needed this feature that wasnt down to you being a fucking retard. i hate this fuckin waterproofing meme shit, here's an idea shitdick dont throw your phone in a fuckin pool and give me back my audio jack and SD card slot.
>>108644152>dude never had a nice fap in the shower
>>108644121Note it's only Americans opposing this and it doesn't effect them.It's just sour grapes.
>>108644081>>108644142Well you see here we still have this thing called competition. If Apple or someone else gets butthurt and ruins their products as some sort of "revenge" we'll simply buy other brands.
>>108644154>unironically watching porn, movies, etc on a fucking phoneDo normgroids really do this?
>>108644142and i forgot. which would piss me off the most>less choicewhile the rest of the world enjoys the cool phones that aren't on the cuck approval list
>>108644152It's to take creep shots at the pool silly.
>>108644146??? tell me you're a gen alpha or zoomie without saying it directly. replaceable batteries are idiot proof. it used to be even simpler than the first few seconds of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ygfdFJJ6g remove the cover, remove battery, insert battery. only goes in one way.
>>108644154you watch porn on a device that has a camera and microphone and is full of backdoors? no wonder you idiots keep getting blackmailed into performing school shootings, assassinations, coups, and betraying your country.
>>108644018We need to kick every country, which voted for chat control, out of EU.
>>108644161gopro on a selfie stick
>>108644125Value is highly subjective, if you think being able to toss your phone into a pool like a retard outweighs the ability to repair it without destroying it then you have fundamentally diffrent priorities to the vast majority of the population and losing money to boot>>108644020also this
Finally I'll be able to walk around with a chink battery instead of a charging cable again
>>108644165Do you think the glownigger on the other end tries to synchronize his orgasms with the retarded niggercattle watching porn on his goyphone?Seems like something they'd do. A bit of a challenge to spice up the shift.
>>108644162Are you gen alpha yourself? It's not about the users but the tech illiterate lawmakers who dictate laws that might have unintentional consequences because they don't understand what they actually try to legislate.Seems very doubtful phones in EU will reach the same standards of thinness, weight, battery life and waterproof rating when they are forced to implement user-replaceable batteries. This looks like the perfect situation for "let the market" handle it, which already decided that people don't give a damn about removeable batteries. People who want that, can still buy phones that have it anyway.
>>108644142>*blocks your path*
>>108644184you keep mentioning thinness, weight, battery life, and waterproof rating and none of those will change. you do not know anything about technology. it's literally going to be the same exact battery with the same exact weight and thinness and battery life with the same exact waterproof rating because it's 2026 and we know how to use gaskets. the only difference is instead of gluing the phone case shut they'll go back to letting the user pull the back cover off without having to heat it with a hot air gun
>>108644174>if you think being able to toss your phone into a pool like a retard outweighs the ability to repair it without destroying it then you have fundamentally diffrent priorities to the vast majority of the populationHuh? Maybe in poor shitholes people care about phone repairs and battery replacements but it never looked like a relevant factor for anyone but activists in the first world. There are phones with replaceable batteries and no waterproofing on the market already, also phones that went all in on repairability like Fairphone, almost nobody buys them though. Forcing every phone to use usb-c made perfect sense since it was basically "lightning but better" with no downsides outside of killing old accessories. This shit is addressing a problem almost nobody has.
>>108644198What makes you so sure of it? Gaskets aren't a new thing and yet phone with replaceable batteries were always compromised in one of the categories.
>>108644184I can literally open my Samsung and replace the battery because the glue holding the back plate on loosened. It's just a matter of making it intentionally openable and either designing a suitable seal or having the option to glue the back on. It's not unbelievably complex.The cost will have to be paid somehow though, so expect higher prices.
>>108644000>here's your 450g (1 lb) iPhone 19 with user replaceable battery!>that will be €3800 + 40% VAT please!
>>108644203here's your (you)
The usb-c rule was received well and made EU more popular. This is in fact another version of populism.next: mandate the 3.5mm headphone jack
>>108644198>it's literally going to be the same exact battery with the same exact weightthey'll have to provide a warranty on that batteryso, no, it will have to be childproof with its own packaging and connectors and will have to work with whatever faults the phone picked up over 5 years
>>108644018That was because 1 member rejected it. Now EU is changing the rule so that it just needs majority. Mass censorshipMass surveillanceMass trackingThe leftist communist government is censoring, surveying and tracking so that the citizens cant oppose their agenda to import mass migrants and replace the voting population to stay in power. Canada's population grew 36% since 2000. From 30 million people to 41 million. Without migration, thats ~3 child per woman. Canada's natural child per woman is 1.5. Well below the 2.1 needed just to keep the same population. So what you have is voting population displaced. What you have is a 36% voting population that want to vote for leftist base to replace the natural government of the original citizens.Same with Europe, Europe had ~500K muslims in year 2000. Now there are 50 million. Spain's communist gov just legalized 500K illegals. Same is happening in California and New York and other states where population is being displaced by illegals and the leftist gov giving illegals the incentives to stay in power
>>108644203shhhhhhh little zoomieyour world is about to changeit will be scary
>>108644234you're so stupid it's unbelievable. nothing you just typed is true. do you just come on the internet and lie for fun or something?
>>108644048why? they will just make slightly more expensive phones with a replaceable battery and sell those.
>>108644238>Now there are 50 million.Did I miss Turkey joining?
>>108644233in their own in-house opinion polling? lmao
>>108644238>That was because 1 member rejected it.Stopped reading there. That's not true. You're either uninformed or spreading lies.
>bigger batteries!>no waterproofone of the few benefits of capitalism is that competition forces players to get inventive and create a better product. If Apple starts shipping bricks because of this law, some Chinese will see it as a chance, and actually make it happen, one way or another
>>108644233why mandate adding an old interface like 3.5mm headphone jack? just make all headphones use a usb c plug. literally 3 wires when the usb c 3.2 standard has 16 wires.
>>108644267Those pins are used for other things.
>>108644159>not watching porn on a phonecant really understand why i would ever do thisi havent watched porn off a phone since like 2008
>richfags buys a new iPhone every year>basically subsidizing phones for the rest of us>this is now verboten and those of us who already keep their phone and don't produce a mountain of e-waste are punished with higher prices
>>1086442673.5 jack is simple and reliable not sure why you would want to overcomplicate it with USB C. Thing is most normalfags have no use for wired headphones so mandating it is kinda stupid.
>>108644000lmfao, do you think this will be EU only? Just like the Nintendo Switch 2, instead of of making the replaceable battery global, only the EU will get it. WHY?If I was apple/samsung/google etc and the EU forced me to create my phones with user replaceable batteries, I'd make this change global... or is it worth to create 2 phones, because the non replacable battery products generate much more profit? I don't get it.
>all that mutt golem cope Music in my ears.
>>108644238>Europe had ~500K muslims in year 2000There were more turkroaches in germany alone at that point in time.
>>108644272they don't have to be... it's a simple conversion that is proven to exist and work otherwise usb-c to 3.5mm adapters with no circuitry wouldn't exist.
>>108644048They used to have replaceable batteries. They know how to do them right.It's Apple and other amerimutt companies who will be furious.>>108644156It actually does affect them (in a good way), ever heard of the Brussels effect?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect
>>108644000NOKIA COMEBACK I'm already up 192% from buying them when covid hit, but now it'll go even higher!
>>108644363here they call it getting high on your own farts
>>108644000The subtle manipulation of perception by spamming Ursula's face next to positive news. She's still a corrupt talmudist piece of shit.
>>108644013Galaxy S5 Active, Galaxy Xcover Pro 2020, Galaxy Xcover6 Pro 2022. Alots of Japanese galapagos symbian phones prior to iPhone release. Don't be a retard.
>>108644000
>>108644013no, you don't get a charger because it saves the company money. you still pay the same price or more than when chargers were included.
>>108644000Rare EU WNow make me an iPhone 5S with an Edge to Edge display, headphone jack and replaceable battery. No need to carry around battery banks either, can just slot the new battery in.
>>108644413>Galaxy S5 ActiveSeems to prove the point right. Compare it vs normal S5: 145.3 x 73.4 x 8.9 mm vs 142 x 72.5 x 8.1 mm 170.1 g vs 145 gAnd that was with older and much easier to reach IP67 rating.
>>108644018>Chat control was rejected earlier this yearAnd in true EU fashion, they will try again next year until they get the result they want. Democracy at work!
>>108644000>sustainable>brings in millions of niggers per yearAll performative.
>>108644000Unfortunately you'll still need to buy new hardware to keep up with software bloat
>>108644456>whataboutism copeFuck off, bootlicker.
>>108644000Debunked by Vishal
>>108644481he's right though, this will do nothing except reduce the choices the european consumer (a black man) has.
>>108644013>and will either force fatter phones with smaller battery or will mess with waterproof ratingYou are either retarded or underage, the Samsung Galaxy S5 was both thin and water resistant, and that had a removable battery.
>>108644184>standards of thinness, weight, battery life and waterproof ratingNOBODY FUCKING CARES YOU RETARD GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING REPLACEBALE BATTERY AND MY HEADPHONE JACK I HATE YOU FUCKING JEWS
>>108644184battery life doesn't even matter if you can just hot swap it. add a tiny onboard battery that lasts like one hour or 20 minutes so it can stay powered on while you swap from dead to full.
Can wait to order a hotswap back shell for my phone and carry a separate battery all the time.
>>108644598hotswapping from my kimestu no yaiba shell to my hello kitty one is so kino
>>108644000>make battery easy to replace>sell phone with a shit battery that needs to be replaced every 8 months>sell "official replacement batteries" for $89 a pop (add a 1 in front if you're Apple)>"A lithium-ion battery cell for a smartphone generally costs the manufacturer between $2 to $4 to produce">???>Profit
It's too good to be true
>>108644203No, removable battery has been a popular demand ever since it stopped being mainstream. But manufacturers found it more compelling to follow whatever Apple was doing
>>108644635Because it is.What this law aims to do is make it more difficult for competitors to enter the market ensuring a strict monopoly of the big corpos.Replacable batteries are just one small clause, but of course it's all the media focuses on.
>>108644626they can't stop me from adding an 18650 battery holder mod
>>108644000now do something about disposable vapes
>>108644655They can't stop you now either
>>108644626ok but the current plan is >make a $1600 device with a $5 battery >make that $5 battery go bad in 400 charge cycles ( 2 years)>because the battery is bad, the user has to buy another $1600 device.
>>108644000EU would be such a good place to live without all those browns.
>>108644666You can already replace batteries, it just takes an ifixit kit
>>108644673not easily. you have to soften the glue, remove the case without breaking the screen and sometimes remove the screen itself, sometimes desolder the battery because they're assholes, etc etc. that's literally the whole point of this bill, to make it easier to replace the batteries. not to make it possible in the first place, just to make it easier.
>>108644350Bending the spec is always possible. But is it standardized?
>>108644000why don't Euros just buy this piece of shit if they want removable batteries? you have a choice, no one is forcing you to buy an iphone.
China and america should just stop selling any tech in EU.
>>108644671Don't live in Londonistan, Paris, Berlin, Stockholm? Live in some small city in Slovakia or some shit. Unfortunately thirdies are going to destroy everything sooner or later so who cares
>>108644152>give me back my audio jack and SD card slot.nta these have nothing to do with water/dust resistance, id much rather have a glued slab thats resistance to water and dust it works better than screws/gaskets, samsung used to do an active line of devices which were water proof with replaceable batteries and water still crept past the gaskets. repalcing a battery on a phone once it goes and isnt even difficult ive done it a bunch of times, only retards call batteries non repalceable
>>108644681Okay true.But initially my argument was, if they're going to lose money because of this bill, they'll recoup it with planned obsolescence in batteries instead.
>>108644481>bootlickerThe irony.
>>108644644If people gave a fuck about it, it'd never become a trend to remove them. Gotta step out of your circlejerk and observe how normal people use their phone.
if there's a demand for phones with removable batteries, why hasn't samsung or iphone come up with one and utterly destroy the competition?
>>108644000Burgers will be instinctively mad at this.
>>108644739Because the demand just isn't there, making it all the more curious who pushed this bullshit.
>>108644706>just stop selling tech to the only place in the world that builds the devices that allow you to build your techFucking genius over here.
>>108644749yes who? is this something euro consumers are really concerned about?
>>108644713I live in Poland, we're still poor as fuck compared to the west and I'm already seeing jeets and nigs in my town.
>>108644000All these euro bints need is for someone to fuck some sense into them. Her, Kallas, whoever else is acting retardedly on the regular.
>>108644761At least I don't know anyone who cares about it, but europe has lots of open sores and muh freedoms activists/autists who probably didn't get enough backlash and it was just waved through. Reminds me a bit of "Apple has to let others have their app stores" fuckery that did basically nothing positive and allowed them enough leeway to cuck everyone making a 3rd party store anyway.
>>108644011With snide comments like that, I wonder how many people on /g/ actually know what Snowden leaked.And then they laugh at petty things like OS age verification, when they themselves have a 20MB file at the NSA that’s currently being linked via Palantir in one of the many US data centers to every piece of information that exists.No matter what the EU does, it’s a long way to the US dystopia.
>>108644450they are replaceable. you can do it yourself with tools or you can take it to a service center. does this legislation even affect apple?
>>108644013I love looking at reddit and seeing how many brainlet takes are shared between there and here. https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1sqnwtv/the_eu_is_fucking_goated_for_this/>nooo muh battery life>noooo muh waterproof>noooooo muh more expensive>noooooooo muh thicker phonessame recycled shit, waste of bytes.
>>108644792it's less activists, nobody in the EU needs to care about what people want, and more idle bureaucrats seeking to expand their plush office even more
>>108644739moron commentapple MAKES the demand. they don't give a singular flying fuck what the users want, because they have a captive market. and because of that captive market they don't need to sell replacement parts. soldered ram. soldered storage. soldered batteries. glued screens. no oem replacement parts. no third party replacement parts. serial numbers digitally verified.
>>108644813>Well, that means I can start using my phone for like 20 years.Did this retard not know that he already could replace the battery on 99% of phones without too many issues or just buy ones meant for it?If EU wanted to do something about e-waste, they should've introduced this for devices when it's often literally impossible like headphones/earbuds.
>twitter post>some guy in India4chan isnt even a karma farm I don't get it, so these retards get banned from reddit or something?
>>108644734that already exists in the current phones though. batteries only last x cycles, capacity goes down, phone operating system slows down to compensate, user buys new phone instead of replacing battery.
Flagship phones will likely be able to bypass the mandate.There is one carveout most people are ignoring.If your phone meets IP67 rating AND the battery lasts for at least 1000 full cycles with 80% battery life remaining, it doesn't need to be user-replaceable.Which means the S26 Ultra, which has IP68, and 1200 battery cycle rating (100-80%) already meets the EU's 2027 mandate.The "good" news is midrange phones can't budget for the more expensive battery chemistries required to hit the higher cycle ratings, so they'll still move to removable batteries again.
>>108644000But only in the EU, right? They still get to pump their chest in North America whilst shouting "USA! USA!! USA!!!" all the while ripping you off and giving you a worse battery and no spare user-replacable parts.
>>108644828they post screenshots containing their twitter handle on 4chan and reddit so people find them on twitter and view their tweet and then they get money from elon musk.
>>108644822Apple is like 30% of the market in the EU, and companies like Fairphone actively went against it with all the shit people supposedly want like 3.5 jack, microsd cards and what else. Only cd drive is missing.>serial numbers digitally verifiedTHIS would be something worth addressing not ignorant bureaucrats fucking with the market.
>>108644836This actually makes sense. If the phone has to be completely fused off and sealed to get that rating (and it probably does, otherwise it'll leak like crazy) then they need an exemption for that.
>>108644836Oh lol, so it's basically nothing burger for anyone but poorfags and not as bad as it looked. Though bet midrange phones will become way more expensive because of this shit or will drop out of the market generally.
>>108644853Yeah, no one wants to fuck with mechanical gaskets and seals on a $1200+ flagship.Samsung has already confirmed the S27 Ultra will be targeting ~1500-1600 battery cycles, which is well beyond the 1000 cycle limit set by the EU to require a user replaceable battery.And for those wondering, the iPhone is similar, all the most recent iphones would also pass the 2027 mandate.iPhone 15/16/17 I believe, all hit the EU's 1000 cycle metric.
>>108644844apple 40%samsung 30%gutter oil companies make up the rest
>>108644839this guy in particular has been hyper rampant about it. why do people keep replying, its a retarded "news" item
>>108644822why do you think iphone makes the demand for sealed backs?
>>108644857Midrange phones are already dying thanks to the RAM shortages. I have a Pixel 7a which is probably considered mid-range and Google keeps sending me emails about the new one which has a worse camera, no Wifi 7 and essentially nothing worth updating for except for the CPU and better battery, everything else is an exercise in cost-cutting.
>>108644857Pretty much, all this will effectively do is increase the floor price for smartphones from $150-200 to $250-400 for anything worth actually buying.
>>108644763>Poland>I'm already seeing jeets and nigs in my town.Yeah that just confirms that it's over
>>108644906that's what happens when you raise your population up to 1.4 billion with a B. you get to super spread your citizens all over the globe. indias population is equivalent to 36 times polands.
>>108644897Yup, that honestly seems like the only likely end result.Flagships will be mostly unaffected; lower and midrange options will go up by $150-300+. People will still churn through their phones in 2-5 years because it's a smartphone, not a car or a house. Thanks EU regulators.
>>108644238>shit that only takes place in my /pol/brainunsubscribe
>>108644948What the fuck are niggers even doing on their phones for them to be replaced all the time? I member my 2016 SE lasting exactly 5 years before I got it replaced, then I gave it to my mom who still could comfortably use it for 2 years with the same old and tiny battery. By the time it reached her, it was just a 1 day battery life but doesn't seem that bad after all the years.
>>108644737>If people gave a fuck about it, it'd never become a trend to remove them
>>108644966Turns out people don't like laggy shit with a scuffed up screen and camera lenses.Sure if you baby a phone it'll be fine in 5+ years, but you're retarded if you expect the average person to treat their smart phones like that.In 5 years your average normie will have dropped their phone a dozen+ times and keeps it plugged in for hours/days at a time killing the battery life because they're lazy retards who don't know or care to learn how to take care of their electronics, they'll just buy a new one when they feel like it.
>>108644836/threadit's nothing for anyone who buys flagships.
>>108644966FOMO
>>108644000> Smartphones will become double as big and heavy againDanke Zensursula!
>>108645007But like, it's not like there was even anything truly new for ages aside of the whole foldable meme which doesn't seem to popular either. Feels cameras got good enough for all situations in like 2020 or 2021 so unless someone is overly autistic about that… I just don't get it yo.
>>108644238We need America's help again to restore freedom in Europe!Down with the Empire of Evil EUSSR!
Euros whine about Apple making design choices for themThen they go wild for even more restrictive design brands like Nothing that are made by Steve Jobs and the Soup Nazis love child on coke
>>108644267headphone jacks can be DIY'd(((USB-C))) standard forbids DIY cables because of all the smart bullshit it mandates
>>108644673not in judeomerica, there you get sued into bankruptcy for violating (((terms of use)))
>>108645038>kremlin servant talks shit about an organization they are trying to destroyWowe.
>>108645006> anyone who buys flagships.The status symbols of the NPC.> the device monitoring me was more expensive than yours
>>108644836wtf? so its like they're trying to kill the (China exclusive) Si-C battery before it has a chance to take off
>>108645083a flagship phone is an insignificant cost to most people, it's not a status symbol anymore
It's baffling how many people are spinning this as negative.
>>108644000I like this news, but this is also old news and buy a fucking ad.
I'll take it, but it's a weird thing to be concerned about. Even before smartphones I've never heard of anyone changing their battery. Call me when they force manufacturers to let users pick their OS and root their phones.
>>108645122Si-C isn't chinese exclusive really, i mean it's exclusive in that they're the only ones shipping phones with Si-C TODAY, but it's not exclusive in that no one else CAN do it, they just haven't yet.Samsung is supposedly targeting the S27 Ultra to use Silicon-Carbon Nanocomposite anodes. The iPhone 18 Pro is similarly speculated to use Si-C as well.
>>108644238>leftist communist government is censoring, surveying and trackingBut enough about the current US gov, keep sucking dicks for palantir and israel faggot
>>108644000Starting in 2027, Europe won't have smartphones.
>>108645281palantir is actually pretty based though, check their manifesto. they even want mandatory military service instead of only people who sign up. (unless you're rich or famous or related to someone who is either, of course)https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2045574398573453312
>>108644838most smartphone makers won't keep two separate production lines because they wouldn't make maximum profit so they're switching globally back to replaceable batteries. they were outjewed pretty much>>108644896android itself peaked in 2014 before all the locking down and gay design language trends started slowly enshittifying the entire ecosystem. they became big thanks to enthusiasts and they didn't need us anymore. roughly half of new phones now ship with permalocked bootloaders and no headphone jack>>108644906euros are still in time to retake their countries but it involves violence and they're still afraid of being called racists. fortunately global black fatigue is slowly moving them towards the ignition point already and the number of incidents has been on the rise. most politically correct viewpoints are now pushed by out of touch millennials and are effectively political inertia
>>108645295Nah see >>108644836Half of this thread is just retards who haven't actually looked at the law.
>>108645333Nope >>108644836Most higher end smartphones of the last several years already meet the requirements (IP67 + 1000 cycle life to 80%)
>>108645304I wish I was able to consume lead on the same level as you retards. It must be nice to live life like that
>>108644626Tard can't even read. The regulation is forcing replaceable and long lasting batteries.
>>108644005>But let's ignore Chat Control and age verificationBut enough about America
>>108645334the one exempt class of device is the one where the battery is so reliable it becomes a non-problem so i don't see why be so anal with it. 99% of the world will benefit from this, nowadays a modern midranger can do everything you need comfortably unless you're a pubg obsessed pajeet that just NEEDS a flagship. and for muttericans making an iphone with a battery that doesn't suck would be a nightmare for goypple
>>108645352Technically it's forcing replaceable OR long lasting batteries.Not both.
>>108645281Rightwing US gov is using Palantir to track the 20-30 million illegals in the US and terrorists abroad. Leftwing US gov has and was using something else to track US citizens and arrest US citizens and kill US citizens home and abroad by labeling them terrorists. One tracks legitimate threats for external forces, the role of the any nation state government. Another tracks US citizens so they can import in millions of illegals and make them a voting base for the communist to take root.This is the marxist playbook allover the western world and thats how the leftist govs stays in power in EU and in Canada.
>>108645377either is an improvement over the status quo, and the removable ones can be gasketed and screwed to IP67
>>108645407Ehh, the status quo was already heading there.Si-C batteries were always going to happen, these regulations might've forced it slightly faster for non-chinese companies, but Samsung and Apple were never going to sit on their asses while Honor, Oppo, and Xiaomi start putting 7000mAh+ Si-C batteries in their flagships while they're still doing 5000mAh.It was only a matter of time. And Si-C comes with increased cycle count as one of its primary benefits outside of power density, so yeah, the cycle increase was always going to happen regardless of EU regulations.
>>108645402>leftist government in EUNigger, what? The biggest party in EU is a right-wing alliance and most countries are ruled by right-wingers aside of Slovakia and now Bulgaria.
>>108645356It's both. Buckle up, or flee to Madagascar.
>>108645489>The biggest party in EU is a right-wing allianceMeanwhile the EU is a communist state copying and going after the Soviet Russian model more and more.If the right wing is so powerful in EU, how come they're not in power? How come only irrelevant eastern european countries are rejecting the Sovietization of Europe?
>>108645514Do you at least get paid to be this stupid?
>>108645514>communist stateDoes it force nationalization of industries?
>>108644013Moron
>>108644000>the cheapest phone for the EU market is now at 700€ with 2GB RAM and 64GB SSD
>>108645402>Leftwing US gov has and was using something else to track US citizens and arrest US citizens and kill US citizens home and abroad by labeling them terrorists.uhhh anon I don't know if you've been paying attention to the news but.. alex pretti was an american citizens on american soil with his constitutionally afforded firearm in his waistband (which was removed from his before being executed) while protecting another americans constitutional rights.
>>108645347right on kek
>>108644203>DURR ONLY POOR PEOPLE WANT REPAIRS! NOT ME BRO I'M SOOOO RICH I BUY A NEW PHONE EVERY TIME I NEED TO MAKE A CALL!People want replaceable batteries so much that the EU feels the need to try and force manufacturers to actually do it on their behalf.You aren't fooling anyone here, most people would prefer a device they can fucking replace the battery in especially as batteries generally aren't eternal and die before most other components do. Plus they can expand and wreck the phone with no way to replace it, so you just have to accept the phone is finished by random chance instead of just being able to plug a new one in. Waterproof ratings are a bad way to force anti-repair norms into products, you can make a phone reasonably waterproof while making it repairable too.
>>108645530that's the funniest part, these retards do it for free thinking their overlords give a shit about them
>>108645352>The regulation is forcing replaceable and long lasting batteries.>long lasting batteriesSo what's this magical "long lasting" specification exactly then? >average eu talking-head: uh company, what's a long lsating battery?>company: Exactly 1 year!>average eu talking-head: I see... BATTERIES MUST LAST AT LEAST 1 YEAR NAO!
>>108644013i've used cellphones since 2003 and i have never once gotten more than a few raindrops on one. while i'd agree there is a time and place for waterproof phones (diving, boating, etc), most people don't actually need one. capacitive touchscreens don't even work when wet
>>108645595See >>108644836The regulation has a carve out that 99% of flagship smartphones will be taking.The battery must last for 1000 cycles or more, and still have 80% (or more) battery life, while also being IP67+ rated.And Samsung are supposedly targeting 1500-1600 cycle life on the S27 Ultra.
>>108645347straight to ad hominem instead of discussing the topic. predictable response.
>>108645567Constitutional right to bear fire arm and get into a fight with federal agents eh? Constitutional right to stalk federal officers over multiple weeks, vandalizing the cars of the federal agents and obstruction of justice as the federal agents were removing illegal aliens invading the country.>>108645532France and Germany have nationalized the energy sector and the automotive industry and the railway industry, the insurance industry, the ISP backbone, and the banking industries. Same with other European countries. EU's defense industry is also government stake owned.Communism with EU characteristics.
Why won't they make ads replaceable?
not just smartphones, all non-embedded electronic devices including laptopsthis is the sole reason for the macbook neo having a modular battery
>>108645625you typed a lot of words to avoid saying that the right wing government used palantir to track and kill american citizens
>>108645620>companies will just only sell their fagship phones to the eu market now>no other action needed
>>108644154i have. you really can't whack one off without porn being right in front of you?
>>108645635Yeah pretty much.Which will likely force the EU to add in carveouts for ultra-budget devices that don't meet the battery regulation standards, but are cheap enough it doesn't matter. But in the short term, yes. This will kill budget and mid-range options in the EU.
>>108645624There is no point in discussing anything with someone who lives in their own reality. I cannot even claim you're arguing something in bad faith when your so far off the deep end that you literally and unironically believe the propaganda.
>>108645632Right wing gov didnt use Palintir to track and kill the violent criminal. The violent criminal stalked the federal agents multiple times in multiple events with multiple altercations recorded. In the last scenario, when the criminal tried to obstruct justice by getting into an altercation with federal officer while armed with a gun, he faced justice. The darwin award was given to him post humously.
>>108645625>Communism with EU characteristics.Economic nationalism.
>>108645304gee, i wonder why a company specializing in medical equipment wants the country to have more active soldiers out and about. makes you wonder, huh?
>>108645664haha amazing, you did it a second time! You likely haven't even read the tweet. you could have chosen any single point out of 22 and discussed it, instead you went straight to attacking me again. as I said before, predictable.
>months long battery life>so heavy can be used as a weaponI would love something like this.
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>>108645685Look into Ulefone, gweilo.
>>108645680Economic communism doesn't pay.But EU isn't just copying economic nationalism, EU is also copying the cultural communism of the Soviet
>>108645683There is no need to be upset. You'll receive new marching orders soon and forget all about this futile effort
>>108645708Android and Linux is garbage.
>>108645715>>108645680>Economic nationalismCommunism*
>>108645722haha you did it a third time! you're actually inferior to an instance of gpt-4chan because at least I could prompt that with any of the 22 points from palantir and it would respond instead of simply sitting here with the logical fallacies over and over.
>>108645742Communism doesn't have free market.
>>108645625>France and Germany have nationalized the energy sector and the automotive industry and the railway industry, the insurance industry, the ISP backbone, and the banking industries. Same with other European countries. EU's defense industry is also government stake owned.
>>108644005NO NO NO YOU CAN'T POINT OUT BAD THINGS YUROPOORS DO NOT HERE REEEE
>Xhe's still going
>>108645695>>108645769here's your (you) schizo-anon
>>108645715>graphUSA can print as much money as it wants being the world reserve currency in large part due to the petrodollar.Paying someone $100 to eat some dog shit on the ground and then that guy giving back the $100 adds $200 to GDP if it was a recorded business transaction.
>>108644455That's extremely likely how your government works too. Nothing stops the executive branch from just making minute changes and pushing a law reform to the parliament vote again and again aside from a vote of no confidence towards the whole executive branch itself.
>>108644000Excellent idea by the EU.
>>108644005This>>108644018No it wasn't rejected for good, they will keep bringing it up and twisting it until it passes, and you know it.
>>108645783Average America has 2X spending money than Average european. Europe's experiment into communism has led to this. Average America are 2X richer than Europeans. Average American can own and drive a car from kids in school to grannies. The richness of the country is apparent. American prosperity doesnt just come from our dollar being the world currency, it comes from our industrial base. Our manufacturing capability, our innovation, our technology, and our military. You're using an American website, with an American internet, typing in American language, from an American computer/phone or maybe Chinese one if you're European and cant afford American products. European economic decline was a choice your elites made, and now you're living in the hell hole. The rape capital of western society dur to mass migration
>>108645822>our>our>our>ourI somewhat doubt you're from the US judging by your abysmal post.
>>108645822average american HAS to own and drive a car regardless of the cost to them because there is no other way to get around and everything is designed around car ownership and debt slavery
>>108645822American prosperity comes from dodging the demographic crisis that has plagued european economies for over a decade. They did this by allowing tens of millions of undocumented brown slave workforce to cross the southern border for decades. While European countries started copying the american playbook in the mid 2010s and taking in millions of browns, MENA subhumans are simply worse biomass than mesoamerican mystery meat.
>>108645859EU elites created the demographic crisis. The death cult is the marxist agenda. Its part of the native population replacement agenda to sow discord, then seize power by importing tens of millions of population to key areas of political power and then getting into power. This strategy is replicated all over the western world by the marxists. Canada's 36% population came EXCLUSIVELY from mass migration agenda over the last decade or so. Europe's mass migration policy was designed specifically to seize political power.
>>108645857I live in Europe and it takes at least 3-4 times more time to get somewhere with public transit (while having to stand cramped between people in a bus and hoping a hobo that just shit and pissed himself doesn't get on the bus) than with a car.Upper classes can afford cars, lower classes often just have to use them even if they can't really afford them. Buying a car is very expensive, you have to pay a lot of bullshit taxes, and there's gas, which is also a lot more expensive than in America.
>>108645656even my ultra cheap snoy fits the glove, what phone is not ip67 in 2026?As for the capacity, they can simply move the full/empty percentage from 0-100% to 10-90%, doubling the charge cycles. Result would be all EU phones having slightly less usable capacity.People creaming themself over this are from the same tree as the xi cocksuckers.
>>108644238>Europe had ~500K muslims in year 2000.Cool story, bro.Albania (Albanians ofc, tho a sizable % are non-religious)Kosovo (Albanians)Bosnia/Herzegovina (mostly the Bosniaks)North Macedonia (mostly the Albanians)Montenegro (sizable Bosniak & Albanian minorities)Northern Cyprus (Turks)Istanbul & the rest of East Thrace (Turks)
>>108645822>Average America has 2X spending money than Average european.ESL typing aside, the "average" american has way less spending power than the average european. You need to remember the "average" american factors in the wealth of the billionaires which control more of the USD than EU billionaries control of the euro.
>>108645896>there's a global marxist conspiracy to make women not have reproductive sexA classic, really. Can't be any other common denominator that all these countries share, instead its a shadow cabal using subliminal messaging to stop me from having sex.
>>108645900>Buying a car is very expensive
>>108645918>Russia not mentioned despite having the largest muslim population after Turkey
EU is a grifting civilization. .
>>108644000define "user-replaceable"
>>108645946And then the rest of the world copies EU regulations. Weird how that works innit?
>>108645946>why aren't you a corpo slave? we don't do that in AMERICA
>>108644013current flagship phones already comply with the regulation, retard.
>>108645960We're getting age verification everywhere because EU and UK faggots couldn't keep their mouths shut.The EU comes up with something retarded, the UK (and Australia), being a literal dictatorship, passes it as a law immediately, showing the rest of the world that it can be done, so they're free to do it too.
>>108645960>the rest of the world copies EU regulationsFunny how the marxists think they invented USB. USB is created by American companies and standardized by American companies. American makers, American standardization, all through voluntary and economic fitness. EU gov is the world's largest grifter. That produces nothing of value and takes credit for American innovation and American standards.
>>108645908That will work in the short term, in the longer term the EU is potentially looking at penalties for companies who do that too aggressively.
>>108645946How does Apple innovate? They're the last to bring features that are widely available from Samsung or Chicom phones. Hell even Samsung is late to bring things like high density batteries, optical zoom, creaseless foldables, etc.?
>>108645979They created the smartphone industry which the world now runs on.
>>108645984Blackberry created the smartphone industry, they pioneered the server system, infastructure and the interface the only thing Apple did was add an onscreen keyboard to all of that.
>>108645963>people create something>they get paid >some others want to buy it>they pay for it>all voluntary>all consenting adultsSLAVERY!!!!
>>108645994okay chud>>108645999marxist gov cant help themselves if they're not grifting in the middle grifting, threatning and stealing while people do voluntary exchanges with one another
what's the point of replaceable batteries when the phone will be outdated before the battery dies
>>108645999You are actively campaigning for less consumer rights ITT for the benefit of corporations and for the loss of you, the consumer. You are a slave.
>>108644000>If a battery can do 1000 cycles and remain above 80% capacity it is exemptThe EU and writing loopholes so big you could drive a truck through them. Name a more iconic combination.
>>108645946>America innovates>Apple
>>108646036>>America innovates>>AppleHe means the first phone. But let's be real afterwards there wasn't much innovation happening.
>>108645977ngl im impressed that a Von der leyen fuck up law has an inch of thought put behind it.In the end all these metric are Meaningless for the mass market, Apple can get the worst rating by abusing all the tricks and still own the Market>efficiency class considers weightplain retarded
>>108646006The perception of doing good is more important than actually doing good.>>108646009>>108646006People dont benefit from replaceable batteries because the whole thing is just a grift. Modern battery chemistry for phones last longer than phone lifetime themselves as their performance become more and more outdated with latest and greatest technology comes along. The natural voluntary competitive market force has forced all the phone makers to give more and more battery bank, better and faster charging cycles, longer lasting batteries, and so on. Your phones can now last whole days without charging again because competitive market forces drive technological improvement. In other words, iphone batteries can last for probably a decade or so on normal usage. Half a decade if you drain it completely each day. The grift of the gov is to convince you that they're doing something useful, when they;re not. They're a roadblock in the natural competitive market.
>>108646009>mayor of NYC imposes 10% taxes on second homes >idiots living in sheds on Alabama are infuriated I will never understand why Amerifats worships billionaires, like what do they have to gain protecting them from getting taxed?
>>108646059i made this point yesterday and got called a shillthat regulation is 10 years too late to make an impact
>>108646054
>>108646073American males are marked at birth as slaves. From this perspective it's not remotely surprising that they grovel in front of their employers, their government, their billionaires and gleefully start another sandpit war for Israel. Their employers, their government, their billionaires all just happen to be jewish.
>>10864607910 years ago, the battery technology wasn't there, the phone industry was evolving rapidly at the pace of technological breakthrough. And they were at the limits of human engineering themselves. The companies making the phones aren't sitting on alien technology skimping out because of jewish money reasons that marxists grifters would like people to think. All regulation does is impose technological limits that is rapidly evolving.
>>108646080>silicon-carbon phonei think the ai just had a stroke
>>108646098No it didn't, have you been living under a rock?
>>108646097socs also were a lot less efficient. Batteries were small and abused for the spec sheet. Charging control didnt exist, propably wasnt even understood.For me "Battery" stopped being an issue with my first 4000mA phone
>>108646052>He means the first phone.Iphone 1 wasn't innovative other than the marketing push. It was early though, granted. All-touchscreen phones were already out, capacitive was not a apple invention and becoming standard over resistive anyway. And iphone1 was lacking major features that "dumb" phones already had like native apps, 3g, video recording and editing, etc etc.Btw im a iphone 17 pro max orange user.>>108646023>>If a battery can do 1000 cycles and remain above 80% capacity it is exemptWell shit. So it's basically nothing. They will lower the max charge (if that's even needed) so it lasts "1000 cycles". what a shame.>>108646059>People dont benefit from replaceable batteries because the whole thing is just a grift. Modern battery chemistry for phones last longer than phone lifetime themselvesNo, only low end phones with slow processors. And they are not bad phones now for any reason other than software bloat from updates (including app updates that do the same thing as before)> Your phones can now last whole days without charging again because competitive market forces drive technological improvement. In other words, iphone batteries can last for probably a decade or so on normal usage.It can't. All phones are still geared towards one day of medium usage. And batteries despite their cycle ratings and phones "battery health percentage".Iphone 13 and 14 are now at the age that their batteries are giving up, people replace them just because of that and not majorly for features or being slow.
>>108646073>>idiots living in sheds on AlabamaRicher than Europeans. Seems like they know a thing about property rights
>>108646097And europeans worshiping grifter government for tech regulation is just that. They cannot produce innovation, they cannot replicate any innovation. All thats left is a grand sense of self-importance, the grift of regulatory power from a civilization that is on a path towards total collapse from mass migration policy and communist economic policies that have destroyed the wealth and prosperity of the continent. The demagogue wants you to believe the reason EU blocks are in decline is because lack of regulations in technology, in business and in speech.
>>108646144>All phones are still geared towards one day of medium usagedefine medium usagei browse on my snoy for at least 3 hours a day with ~30% battery drain
>>108646073They got brainwashed into thinking that they are just some hardworking away from being rich themselves. (while every non millionaire is much closer to being homeless)
ITT
>>108646189Why do Americans hate governments that do not respect private property rights? Or personal income? Or personal wealth?I wonder why? Maybe when you grow up and get a job, you might understand why you hate the gov taking away your money
>>108646189Income tax was supposed to be targetted towards the wealthy only at first and temporary measure. Then it became permeant and everyone was taxed. "The rich" just means anyone who is successful.
>>108646155Tech regulation in the EU is one of the few good things about it. We all hate on the EU usually but with a few things like USB-C or GDPR, they helped us all including you. Now iphones have USB-C globally and you can usually do a GDPR request globally, too. They might save you from games being taken away from you, too.We do all hate the EU in general and they do impose a lot of stupid shit on our countries but because they control a globally important economic region and are somewhat commies and not lobbied as much by corpos they sometimes fall to these common sense arguments. You're welcome.>mass migration policyNot a EU thing, that's enabled by country governments.>>108646159Heavy usage would be like gaming while recording video (heck live streaming is enough) or some such that would drain a samsung or iphone in less than 8 hours, medium I'd say is normie usage, 1h of videos in the morning, 6-8h of SoT at work for various, 2h of gaming, more video, video calls and texting for another 4 hours... All on high brightness. And then needs to be at least 30% left for those days that they go out.
>>108644000GIGABASED
>>108645489If party supports mass migration and troon rights it's right-wing only by name. In many European countries you have parties like that, neither right nor left wing, instead they are corrupt and money oriented entities.
>>108646215>>108646243Did your taxes go down under Trump? Because people making 100s of millions of dollars to billions of dollars saw significant tax breaks. Based on my filing my taxes are still the same, in fact it went up due to the tariffs. Let's step back and just look at the overall quality of life in the EU nations as opposed to the US. Germans are expected to live 5 years longer than US citizens despite higher rates of drinking and smoking. Germans are also more satisfied with their quality of life as well with mandatory month ofvacations, national holidays and new 4 day work weeks. Is this the freedom you wanted? 6 days off in a year and 2 weeks of vacation if your employer happens to like you?
>>108646305Trump has more tax than before due to massive inflation by printing the money. Everything cost more as a result. Thats the same normal gameplay for government now. The least nefarious way to tax is through printing of money. The most nefarious is to target individuals for perceived status differences.
>>108646326>Trump has more tax than before due to massive inflationNo, he is talking about actual tax as percentage paid.> The least nefarious way to tax is through printing of money.no, it's the most nefarious, as your friends that get to spend first, and raise prices, aren't affected much. Printing of money is good when spent on infra though since it's not very inflationary and helps everyone.Where as inflation only hits the bottom ~90% that cant negotiate their wages up to keep in line, and worst for bottom 80% (ish) that don't have major assets that also go up with inflation.> The most nefarious is to target individuals for perceived status differences.Mostly nonsense statement, assume you mean billionaires?
>>108646373I have no idea what he's saying, good on you for being able to communicate with third worlders.
>>108646373>relative inequality chartWeaponized envy. Thats not real wealth. Thats relative wealth. Someone else having more doesnt mean you have less. The economy isnt zero sum game, otherwise we'd still be all be cavemen. US wealthy growing is just part of the whole pie being lifted. Everyone and their granny has a smartphone in their hand, everyone's connected, everyones' got car, everyone can order delivery from the internet, have access to infinite knowledge base of the entire world, communicate with anyone, go anywhere in the world, etc. The real wealth has skyrocketed for everyone. Wealth of goods/services and the well being.
>>108644000So this is the final year global standard smartphones will be available in EU-Europe?Only phones fitted with anal prongs to ID users will be available, I guess?
>>108646394We have bots on 4chan now?
>>108646428Thats your final answer? Reddit marxists gets the rope
>>108646437Not gonna bother replying to your word salad. Unless you're on the board for Apple/Samshit/etc. this law shouldn't affect you one bit. In fact it might actually benefit you if you plan to keep your devices for longer.
>>108646452I im not one to entertain grifters and call out the worship of grifters. Aint part of the grifting tribe.
>>108646381lol nice counterargument. Good on your for licking boots while your empire becomes an economic zone where people working hard can never make it and inheriting assets is the only way.>>108646394>Thats not real wealth. Thats relative wealth. Someone else having more doesnt mean you have less.People do have less in real terms, like gold... Or anything real, like gasoline, steak or lumber.>smartphone in their hand, everyone's connected>have access to infinite knowledge base of the entire world, communicate with anyone, Internet slop, the one thing that got radically cheaper and more accessible in the last 30 years, to distract you.>everyones' got carNope, 22% less registered cars in the US since 2008. People can't afford it anymore despite growing population.> everyone can order delivery from the internetFunny cause it's been fueled by paying stupid people bellow minimum wage through apps that make a loss on each order. Now that the apps are trying to make a profit it's too expensive for most people, americans are leaving and it's mostly illegal immigrants doing identity theft left.
>>108644000There has to be some evil intent behind it
>>108646459>gasoline>steal>lumbersure, some things go up and down due to various reasons, particular geopolitical instability like war and going hard against marxist governments
>>108646459You're free to give up the internet and computer you have. The luxury you enjoy, which you believe only the rich can enjoy and fuck off from here.
Most Americans here unironically have EU derangement syndrome. Sad to see.
>>108646487Americans are retarded. They're tribal and felt everything boils down to left v right. I'm paying more for electricity every year while using less because I need to subsidize Google/X/etc. AI. I live in a DNC run state, so its obviously not a left right issue. The people defending billionaires based solely on the dream of maybe one day they will become part of the billionaire class will learn soon enough. And don't even get me started on Israel...We are funding their universal healthcare with our taxdollars. My paycheck gets a thousand dollars deducted a month for healthcare.
>>108646487>>108646559You're on American website. Using American technology. Your sense of entitlement is the issue. America isnt the problem, you are. Your grifting government is the problem
>>108646559>We are funding their universal healthcare with our taxdollars.Maybe indirectly and even then the amount is minimal. Israel-bucks isn't why your healthcare is fucked and seeing how many industries depend on it being fucked now, it's doubtful shit can even be fixed without leading to a massive crisis when all the middle men would become unemployed.
>>108646569>Your grifting governmentSaid the American. Holy fuck the irony.
>>108646590American made, American technology, American innovation, American way of life.
>>108646569>Using American technologyThe World Wide Web was invented at CERN (the European Organization for Nuclear Research) near Genevakek
>>108646581The solution is a combination of both what Trump initially ran on as well as what Sanders proposed for Universal healthcare>actually force big Pharma to compete>the same companies like Lily can sell something like Lantus in Germany for $40 a bottle and still make $20 per bottle>the same Lantus is $500 a bottle here in the US>force them to give us the EU pricesIt would remove a ton of middlemen but that would need to happen to begin to fix everything that's wrong with this country. We should be sacrificing the white collar jobs over the blue collar ones. >>108646590You're probably replying to an indian troll anon...
>>108646487Brussels has a Europeans derangement syndrome.They quite consistently make politics against the citizens of EU nations.
>>108645960lmao
>>108646603>American made, American technology, American innovation, American way of life.My desktop processor was made on a Dutch machine by ASML, whose country is a member of the EU. And the World Wide Web was invented in Switzerland at the European National Center for Nuclear Research.
>>108646622Meh, pharma companies aren't even the big jews (and your insane prices kinda subsidize the rest of the world, so if they were forced to lower them, stuff would get more expensive everywhere) but the big, biiiig parasites are the insurance companies, and way too many workers are involved in the scam – so to fix the health care system would be "I'll make hundreds of thousands of people unemployed" which isn't a great campaign promise.
>>108646616The mutts pronounce it Nucular
>>108646622>We should be sacrificing the white collar jobs over the blue collar onesI'm sorry to disappoint you, but biopharmaceutical engineers and scientists are also white collar workers.
>>108646487Is that why your gov is trying to replace your native population with African mass migration huh
>>108646474>sure, some things go up and down due to various reasonsNo, this is not "some things". This is key for any economy, gold is prime recession resistant store of value, gas is major input into almost everything (including driving), lumber is key to building your house. Not like brick construction is any cheaper. Steak is the cost of high quality food (Not corn sirup chem slop).> particular geopolitical instability like war and going hard against marxist governmentsIrrelevant. Im talking about real inflation here.>>108646484>The luxury you enjoy, which you believe only the rich can enjoy and fuck off from here.I just told you it's distraction cheap slop. It's the opposite of luxury. The elites give their kids loads of organic grass fed steak, massive amounts of petrol-transport, tons of gold reserves and jewlry, huge homes costing millions in lumber (and other construction materials), but they don't let them sit on ipads and use the internet.
>>108646656https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/gold
>>108644125Watches have a backplate that is sealed airtight with an inset gasket. The screws that hold the backplate securely in place go into a part of the housing that is strictly phsically separate and sealed off from the open internal housing of the watch. Such gasket constructs are good for up to 10bar - approx 100 meters depth. Which is far beyond anything a glue-sealed smartphone can achieve - which tops out at something like a 4m pool depth before water already starts seeping in.The reality is that phone manufacturers don't want to do it, because the glue is a cheap excuse against making phones that have easily replaceable and repairable parts - i.e. it eats into their bottomline, because every phone repaired cheaply by a third party is an expensive new phone not sold. And the gaskets require high quality rubber, which is an expensive part. (okay- 'expensive' being literally cents on the dollar, but at scale it adds up.)
yeah as if this child eating power hungry technocrat in the OP is responsible for bringing back replacable batteriesretards
Marxist worship of government is hilarious
>>108644000>be europoor (unironically)>have a median salary of $1,500 per month after taxes (a quarter of the American median salary LOL)European Union is literally a third-worlder region on par with Latin America, just a little bit safer.
>>108646685Watches have also a tiny and round surface, while the device itself is relatively fat. Pulling it off with a yuge and thin rectangle would probably require tons of tiny titanium screws that would also cost space, aside of the materials and manufacturing premium.
>>108644455They'd have to try a lot harder though, because an amendment was made to the existing legislation which basically states E2E encryption may not be tampered with, and there can be no legal pressure on platform holders to offer ways to circumvent it.
>>108646704Yes. Even poor Latin Americans, who have COMPLETE visa-free travel to the EU, a common language, the right to easily obtain EU citizenship, and the right to free education in EU countries, prefer to come to the US illegally or apply for a complicated visa than to emigrate to visa-free EU countries. LOL.
>>108646704median is a retarded metric thothe average italian get an absolute dogshit wage but this is not reflected in that map
>>108646694Not more hilarious than the constant palatable butthurt >First to cry about other nations monopolising markets whilst also maintaining a complete monopoly on advanced lithography machines.
>>108644154you really can't do it without submerging your phone?
>>108646708To be able to unseat and slide out a battery, and slide in a replacement, you wouldn't need to remove the full back panel. You'd just need a small hatch. Removal of the entire backplate would only be a necessity if you don't design a proper way of slot-loading the battery and instead rely on the old-school way of 'lifting it.'
>>108646733>Even poor Latin Americans, who have COMPLETE visa-free travel to the EUThey're still usually rejected at entry. You know we can do that right? And plane tickets cost more than a jackal to US.>a common languageSpain and portugal only where they will give them jack shit> the right to easily obtain EU citizenship, and the right to free education in EU countriesNope.>>108646704That's with tax and social fees included, and US amedian that year was 3400. How much is $3400/mo when paying for healthcare and giving birth and taking 5 weeks paid vacation per year?No doubt top 10% earn more in the US and it's very worth it for them. But for most people, the north-west EU is at least on par.
>>108644000Worthless if batteries aren't also required to follow certain standards, otherwise the manufacturers will provide shit so overpriced that no one will buy.
>>108646704Median weekly income *before* taxes is ~1200 USD in the US, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics.US Census estimates annual income before taxes at ~51,500 USD, which makes for ~4290 USD monthly before taxes.I make over that amount monthly in EUR before taxes, and I have a very unassuming job in software engineering.Keep in mind that refugees without legal status are counted as population but are in practically all EU member states not allowed to work. Therefore, they put a big dampener on the median income because all of them are effectively at a zero income.
>>108646704>a quarter of the American median salary LOLEver taken an economics class, retard ? These numbers are not adjusted for price parity and they carefully exclude the value of received public services like free healthcare.
>>108646846>No doubt top 10% earn more in the US and it's very worth it for them. But for most people, the north-west EU is at least on par.Emphasis on the 'at least.' If you start factoring in other things like the general cost of living, I'd say nw-EU is just strictly better altogether than the US.
>>108646890>Keep in mind that refugees without legal status are counted as population but are in practically all EU member states not allowed to workSource of that bullshit ? You don't know the graphic's source, nor the methodology they used (if any). These numbers are probably made up by an LLM for all we know. So stop talking out of your ass.
>>108646846>They're still usually rejected at entry.Proofs? I don't see any.>NopeYes, they have this at least in Spain (with any ancestors) and Italy (only with italian ancestors).
everyday i bless god for being born in western europe. we enjoy the technology engineered by usa and manufactured by asia while doing nothing all day everyday.
>>108646920>Emphasis on the 'at least.'Yeah. For what's "minimum wage" in the US, EUW workers are "comfortable". Especially considering US usually needs car + fuel to get to work while EUW often doesn't.>>108646941>Proofs?No south americans in EU despite better benefits than US. Plane ticket 3x the cost of smuggling to US. Less illegal work available.>Yes, they have this at least in Spain (with any ancestors) and Italy (only with italian ancestors).Mexicans can fast-track Spain citizenship with many requirements, most importantly legal residency for 2 years which 99.9% of mexicans can't get.
>Trump imposes tariffs>we start paying tariffs >Trump supreme court says tariffs is unconstitutional >businesses can get a refund for all of the tariffs they charged us>pocket the differencehttps://abc7.com/post/trump-tariff-business-refunds-businesses-can-claim-starting-monday-tariffs-declared-unconstitutional-supreme-court/18925045/Some 3rd world poo is gonna say this is somehow winning.
>>108646636Thanks for your perspective HIVan.
>>108647227Welp, classic outright corruption. This is just welfare for corpos, no way any of them are going to refund consumers "out of the goodness of their hearts".
>>108647319Not everyone opposing your glorified Democratic Party dependents in Europe is a Putin dick sucker, mate.They allowed the flood of MENAs with #refugeeswelcome to sweep across EU-Europe.They ruined the EU energy sector with their "Green New Deal", that is nothing but an industrial suicide mission.They forced a fucking ineffective vaccine on the people, that had intentionally undisclosed side-effects.They are going to protect their democracy. Don't dare to suggest it wasn't theirs to keep, if you want to see another day.Putin needs to be stopped. Unfortunately the same applies in a less drastic version to the parties ruling Brussels.
>>108647978>yoooooooo what about the stuff that only happens in my /pol/ poo brain?
>>108644267okay, now do charging while listening
>>108645038so wait. is his angle that soviet union was "le good"? in which case, lmao. or is it european union is "le bad"? in which case, cope and seethe
