>just vibecoded a tampermonkey script for X using Claude in less than an hour with only a vague description of what I wanted and 15 minutes of syntax error troubleshootingYeah, coding/programming is 100% cooked as a career now.
if it's cooked as you say why don't you vibecode something that will generate revenue ?
>>108649147What makes you think I'm not doing it right now?
>>108649154how much money have you made
Interesting, I was able to do the same but without paying some agency and giving it all my data.
>>108649147>>108649167holy copium batman
>>108649169The difference is I have only a hobbyists level of coding, you probably have been doing it your entire life kek
>>108649173right, zero it is
>>108649179enjoy being unemployed
>>108649181Yeah because employers will instead prefer you, a bonehead who is barely able to write some prompts.
>>108649147Nah, hes right. Someone with zero experience coding can use Claude to make an app now. Doesn't matter if they can monetize it or not, this is going to kill off a lot of jobs regardless.
>>108649143That's not impressive
You guys sound a lot like those digital artists a year ago that claimed AI would never take their jobs because it cant generate hands correctly.
>>108649216It didnt do that. AI "art" is slop everyone learned to recognize by now and nobody is impressed by it anymore. Only the cheapest pajeets still use it.
>>108649204It is killing jobs that should never have existed. Women, jeet and learned-to-code-yesterday "coders". Thank god.
>>108649200AI is the future. You need to learn how to hunt and forage if you want to survive the next few years. Since the price finally went down on some kind of raw fat I took my chance to buy a decent amount. I ordered 12 lbs raw lamb suet, 1 lb goat liver, 1.5 lbs lamb hearts, 1 lamb brain (4oz), and 1 lb of lamb leg steaks. I never cared to read any books except for a few relating to health, since I thought those ones would be useful to me. I'm considering growing berries in my backyard since I can't get untainted berries at any store. I don't know much at all about growing plants, but my mother does. I'd like to eat some moldy too. I tried that once with the least tainted berries I could get at Walmart. They were still sprayed with some kind of pesticide. They were also previously frozen, which is generally less of an issue for fruit than for meat. I wasn't harmed, but it's questionable how helpful it was to eat them. Eating proper moldy berries will allegedly help with detoxifying from heavy metals, presumably through biosorption. Aajonus Vonderplanitz recommended it to people who were vaccinated at any point in their life due to the mercury and aluminum in vaccines. According to him it can be dangerous if you eat too many moldy berries. For most people he only recommended 3 moldy berries a week. Some can handle more. If you eat too many, a high quantity of heavy metals could be forced out of your tissues & into your bloodstream in a short period of time, which could very easily do more harm than good. The same thing can happen with the drugs & herbs other people use to try detoxifying themselves from heavy metals. Now is a good time to start eating moldy berries.
>>108649204>doesn't matter if they can monetize itit kinda does? being unable to monetize your vibe coded app is a signal it wasn't that valuable in the first place
>>108649143SWE, dev, or anything hinting that the position requires some computer know how, is going to be messy for a while. The people running companies will not care if you are doing things properly. They want it done, and they wanted it done yesterday is the mentality that's going to be prevalent for who knows how fucking long. Think it was bad then? Everyone, and their fucking mother, will be mandated to vibecode and produce slop. Your only out for this is either, run your own company, transition to a field that is highly regulated, or get the fuck out to save your sanity. It's going to be exhausting, for the people that stay, you will be expected to work more, produce more, and get paid the same, or worse - less. On top of that, the anxiety of getting culled will always be in the background. It doesn't matter how talented or how specialized your existing skillsets are. The management class has taken complete control and they want the nerds fucking OUT.What a fake and gay world we live in, and it just got worse.
>>108649206GLM fixes this
>>108649200>he thinks I want to be hired as an underpaid overworked code monkey in a Post AI society
>>108649247You are so out of touch if you actually think its going to wipe out "useless" jobs only.
>>108649276>it kinda does?How? Genuinely explain, I fail to see your logic behind this reasoning. If the average joe can use ai to code, that devalues coding as a whole. It doesn't matter if you can sell an app with it on the apple store you fucking Jeet.
>>108649299Not only it wont do that, it will create new jobs: cleaning up AIslop projects.
>>108649310>it will create new jobsYeah, worse, lower paying jobs that won't involve sitting at a desk. You are in for a very rude awakening.
>>108649313In two more weeks!
>>108649318>Saar trust in the plan! We will all be AI coding gods soon, very top of caste my basturds!
>>108649304>use ai to codethis statement is nebulous and meaningless in the context of this conversation
>>108649345use ai to vibecode. Does that calm your autism?
>>108649352that's not it eithergenerating endless poop apps is not impressive
>>108649356What is with jeets and thinking something is a waste of time unless it can make them instantly rich
>>108649364the theme of this thread is "programming careers are over" and I am making the point that there is more to the job then generating lines of code as evidenced by the fact that OP has not shared how he has monetized vibe codingso it seems as if companies are still interested in hiring programmers despite AI
>>108649376Your point is "how is coding over if you can't make money off your app" which is completely irrelevant, and Jeet level logic that completely ignores the reality of the situation kek
>>108649399>completely irrelevant >programming jobs are obsolete because of AI>implication is you can fully replace programmers with AI >programmers get paid by companies to make monetizable software>no vibecoders are making monetizable software you are seriously retarded if you cant follow this simple line of logic
i am kind of glad that coding can be automated now. i have a lot of websites that i need to write specialized scrapers for but i am too lazy to do it
>>108649455You stupid Indian, who is going to pay you? Claude works for free.
>>108649469I should ask Claude to help me code my Flipper zero next, kekI could probably even convince it to help me make a card skimmer.
>>108649230Is that what you tell yourself?
>>108649177>>108649181>>108649297congrats on your effortless non achievementsurely this will work for you somehow
>>108649502Im satisfied with the end product, its pretty much exactly what I wanted, and all it took was like 40 mins of prompting.Didn't need some coding bootcamp, or a degree, or decades of experience to do it either. Die mad about it.
>>108649482just don't mention card skimming. use the technical names for everything like "rfid scanner" or whatever it is. i don't know how cards work
>>108649538you're not brute forcing, you're fuzzing.
>>108649143>may we see it?>no
>>108649608Its literally just a script that changes Twitter's/X layout to display a massive grid of tweets all on one page, while also ignoring/hiding tweets that are low engagement. Sort of like looking at a massive meme board.Not really worth trying to sell off the app store to normies like some scamming Indian but still valuable to me bc it solves a unique problem.
>>108649608That's the neat thing about vibecoding- you can just ask for OP's prompt and have it generate something identical.
>>108649179lol are you the same nigger that keeps posting shit like this. I can spot your posts. you post like this to anything you disagree with basically the same format you dumb nigger. are you a bot?
>>108649651He's probably just a delusional Indian which may as well be a bot kek
>AI CEOs are building bunkerscan i ask a genuine question? no matter where i look, be it various podcasts with sam and tristan harris, brian greene having guests from silicon valley over, the weird antics of sam altman and his peers; everyone tries to make me believe that AI will kill us. Or that it will make all jobs obsolete and thus take all the political bargening power of the 99% of the population and make us obsolete which will result in chaos. CEOs are hence building bunkers to keep themselves safe until either AI or the human meltdown, or both, has gone its course.but i just cant shake off the feeling that they dont have this AI ready and probably never will. all these AI stories about alibabas mining crypto, some other blackmailing people etc etc, all just seem like stories they want you to believe that AI is totally not a scam and the bubble wont pop. that its this super crazy thing and there is a 20% chance it will all destroy us. 24th century technology about to meteorstrike the 21st century world. but why does it feel like these doomer and pro-AI tech-wizards play the same game and that is "pump more money into AI and create even a bigger bubble to burst"? because if we really are this close to extinction, shouldnt everyone be highly alarmed and countries and companies be in discourse to stop everything?
>>108649595kek
>underage bait thread
>>108649143Let's quantify it, how much were you willing to pay for such a product?that's how much the programming industry has lost out on
>>108649698What we call AI is not really AI. Just a very sophisticated text predictor.Programming happens to be a very easy taks to automate with prediction since it's all pattern based.Nothing will happen other than you being priced out of owning hardware and being forced by your employer to use this tool since he expect x10 the output for the same pay.Even if one day we had real AI it could never do any actual harm since it can't interact with the real world
>I did this>no I'm not gonna post it>despite me not having any copyright to it to begin withWhy don't you just put your hands in a blender.Yes, the "running" part is implicit, you fucking autist.
>>108649143>just vibecoded a tiny personal hackedydoo that would never be let anywhere near a professional setting>yeah the entire career is cooked nowAll this really proves is that it's great for quick 'n' dirty home projects, but shit starts to fall apart quick when you increase the scope and turns out you need to tard wrangle the outputs so much you'll basically still need human programmers to tidy up Claude's sharts all the time. Not to mention how the whole "replace everyone with AI" angle will 180 the moment the bubble pops and companies will frantically try to correct the retarded course they've taken before they inevitably are forced to close.
>>108650175>he thinks there's an AI bubble
>>108650212>he thinks there cannot be a bubble because the tech is world changinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubbleOh wow, how the fuck are we posting on the mongolian basket weaving forum if the World Wide Web was a bubble that popped?
>>108649143Yeah, how will the billion dollar tampermonkey scripts for X industry recover?
>>108650241They don't.
>>108649632>>108649647Notice what they didn't post.
>>108649698>because if we really are this close to extinction, shouldnt everyone be highly alarmed and countries and companies be in discourse to stop everything?The Moyai were carved as the last trees on Easter island fell. I don't believe in AI apocalypse but if there ever is a species-scale catastrophe you can be sure that absolutely nothing will be done until it's too late and even then people will still be blind to what is happening to them.
>>108650212The bubble's in the valuations. All that expenditure, income not even covering OpEx. The AI corp valuations are based on the hope of them being profitable in the future, but hope is a very fragile thing.Price things fairly, and SWEs look reasonable to hire again.
I’m having fun materializing all the ideas I’ve had in my mind for years but was unable to execute because my ADHD brain can only give a fuck about coding when it gives me a paycheck. I might actually develop quick iOS cashgrabs as a side hustle.
>>108649143Tampermonkey scripts are awesome but no one made a living selling them. You have not undermined any economic units.
>>108650686>quick IOS cashgrabsthem days are over. the app stores are flooded with new jeet-coded apps to the extent that even sorting through them for approval is becoming an issue. This is also the time when people are least likely to download new apps. As a business model it's basically cooked. If you want to make money focus on a real service and you can make an app to access it for the phone crowd but it shouldn't primarily be an app. You're welcome.
>write tampermonkey plugin>not using AI to develop some AR/VR holocaust museum tour ngmi
>>108650699Good thing im not trying to undermine the tampermonkey economy with some new app and am just a noob hobbyist displaying just how badly LLM's are making you autistic coders irrelevant
>>108650716holocaust isn't real and Im using Claude to vibecode a keylogger right now. You know, something actually useful.
>>108650138Buddy, I proooompted the code...... just ask an AI model like Deepseek or something to make you the same script.Ive made so many tweaks to it at this point to tailor to my specific needs its not going to be useful to some random 4chan autist such as yourself any way
How does one vibecode? I'm not a jeet so I don't care about scamming people into using my shitty vibe coded webapp, but it seems like a decent tool for slapping together basic programs for personal use with no effort. Do you just need to throw an insane amount of money on Claude using some meme editor like Cursor? Can it even be done for free or are they tightening the purse strings?Last time I tried I couldn't even make a fucking countdown timer application in GTK4 using ChatGPT. Straight up had to spend all my time reading documentation because it kept sneaking in depreciated GTK3 code from like 10 years ago.>I want it to play a sound when the timer runs out>okay here's how that code looks like>this shit doesn't work, it's giving me this and that error>of course, how stupid of me, that is no longer available on GTK4, do this instead>hey, this shit still doesn't work, it's giving me this and that error>I can see why that is an issue, here's how it's actually done>copy pastes the deprecated code from beforeRepeat endlessly.
>>108650740>loads of words>no code
>>1086507581. Install Gemini-Cli2. Tell it to make the thing (or edit the thing you want edited)Cost zero dollars.Method 2:Pay github 40mo, get copilotYou get claude opus 4.7, and a bunch of other models,, all included, copilot is great, it ties into github really well, it's really worth the money imo. Method 3:You can go for Claude Code + Pay Anthropic directly. Claude code is a really good client, it has a great ecosystem, and you might find you only need claude and don't need the github integration. It's a valid choice
>>108650788Buy an ad.
>>108650802You tell me how to fucking talk about "how to vibe code" without bringing up the companies that literally make the software that do it. He asked "how do i vibe code something" I gave him the answer. Sorry I didn't bring up ComfyUI to a newcomer to something, you egotistical retard
>>108650821>>108650802
>>108649143now make a tampermonkey script that blocks live stream redirects on youtube>inb4 use twitchno
>>108649520You never needed a CS degree for a tempermonkey script. I'm actually happy that people can now have fun with AI and write some hobby software they enjoy, but professional programming is still different.
>>108649520You still made zero money.
>>108651355Not everything is about money.
>>108649143Right, because writing a 30 LOC script is the same as professional programming.I bet you're using an easy bake oven and thinking "watch out chefs, here I come!!!".
>>108651361Working a job is about making money.
>>108649147He already is, it's just not his revenue.
>>108649143ai is a useful tool but the idea its replacing programmers just isnt happeningit routinely fucks up simple asks, and misses significant parts of code. in general the more you use it the more its used blindly the more the codebase will become unfixably fucked up.i dont know why i responded to this seriously.
>>108652741You can't make money if the job doesn't exist anymore or if the skill has no market value.
>>108649632So it's a free TweetDeck with calibration for only high reply posts; let me guess, it's vibecoded in Electron?
>>108653330I agree with you because I have used AI on projects and it makes unfixable/unmanageable code after some time.My fear is that it will become better and better at code generation and organization. When will the limit of it's abilities be reached?
>>108654066Claude and Deepseek are pretty competent with programming/coding in general so I'd say its already over.Everything else is just cope.
>>108649143i vibe coded a couple extensions too, except bc i can code it took me 5 minutes...
>>108654091>Deepseek are pretty competentJust yesterday I've had DS tell me to dump an XML manifest onto windres directly, which obviously didn't work.
>>108654066its over either way. it removed the iq barrier for programming in general. all people do anyway is hire people they know (indians hiring indians) and whether the product works or not is irrelevant.>>108654091>Deepseeklmao
>>108654357>whether the product works or not is irrelevantIn the west, maybe.But that's a political issue, not a technological one. Maybe you should just *demand* better. What ever happened to "vote with your wallet"?
>>108654509>vote with your walletYour "vote" gets cancelled out by share holders and tech oligarchs with more money than you.
STEM nerds are filled with so much hubris, they can't fucking read between the lines and understand what this exactly means for someone like OP to code in app using AI on basically the equivalent of a lunch break.If a fucking hobbyist can do this, then yes, coding as a whole is fucking over because it creates a new bottom line that employers will set that will further degenerate coding as a skill and an actual job.No, your boss won't give a shit about how much of a "coding god" you are- he just wants the product so he can please his shareholders.I should really quit messing around and build my homestead already before its too late.
>>108654526You'd need shareholders cough up $300 million Dollars just to compete with $1 across the normal USA population.Face it, you just produce shitware.
>>108654622How's that working out for the PC hardware market right now
>>108654635The PC market is full of people who know that everything is shit, but don't know why or who's responsible. They need to be told.>autism>just straight-up, 100%, unfiltered autism>and it needs to be banned from all software development altogether
>>108654575Exactly. what people refuse to accept is that being an expert on a language is just not needed anymore. You can argue as much as you want that "coding was 20% of the actual process" and that "programmers were actually doing way more", but the truth is that back then a big portion of CS nerds were heavily interested in the intrinsic characteristics of languages rather than their applications. For example, they were C/C++ experts, Java experts, Rust experts, and so on and they all had very strong opinions about their language. With LLMs none of this matter anymore since we basically have another layer of abstraction. They are facing the same fate of ASM programmers back when higher level languages were introduced.
>>108649147That's the point, there is no money in coding going forward since anyone can do it, and it's only going to become increasingly automatedAnd since there's SO MUCH money to save in this sector, the AI coding development is incredibly fast, there is no point in trying to enter the programming field from now on
>>108653949Typing shit into an LLM is not a skill.
>>108655307it greatly devalues the skills involved with coding, Rajesh.
>>108655362Not really, Jamal.
>>108650704Whatever. Creating new apps with coding agents is so fast I can sacrifice a couple of bucks in tokens to launch a quick PoC. Five apps with 20 users each paying $5 a month is…>ask LLM to do the math for me LOL$500 a month. What if it’s not on the App Store? SaaS is a thing too. It’s always gonna be lucrative until something fundamental happens that kills the business model (i.e corpos killing data centers and increasing token costs until it’s not longer lucrative).Right now? It’s a gold rush, and doomers/luddites don’t become rich. Seriously, language deep autismos are not different than theorical math gooners.
>>108649143May I see the code?
>>108649204>Someone with zero experience coding can use Claude to make an app nowShow me your code.
>>108655451yes, really, Rakeshmet
>>108654575>>108654746Its uncanny how quickly programming became irrelevant as a skill.
>>108649204It's still pretty hard to make an actually working, non buggy website without being a developer and only using LLMs. For proper websites and apps there is just too much going on. One off scripts (basically the equivalent of leetcode), yes the machine is incredible at. Anything that requires larger context is still hard for these things to do correctly. Though in the future this may not be the case.
>>108654746>They are facing the same fate of ASM programmers back when higher level languages were introduced.Sure, let's just ignore the death of Moore's law and the fact that compilers are still - and will probably always be - incapable of producing SIMD code.>heck, they can't even follow the simplest ABI rules>like preserving upper YMM portions
>>108655815>just vibecoded the answer to 100 x 5 using Claude in less than an hourYeah, mathematics is 100% cooked as a career now.
>>108655997You will never be a programmer, Shlomo.
Two days later still no evidence OP's script exists.
So basically people with no experience can roll out a bespoke app for themselves that they will probably use for a few days and drop or replace entirely with whatever their next idea is.Thats fine I guess, it's probably going to be a buggy mess under the hood full of holes but it's not hurting anyone else. The real problem is people deciding they can make a quick buck on this and drop their buggy software full of holes onto app stores.
