This really is the final pill, and for a lot of you, it’s the toughest pill to swallow. You will dismiss this, you may even be angry about it, but whether it’s now or later you will ultimately accept it.Take the Microsoft pill today.
Sure but I'm still not installing 11.And 10 only just works because I tinkertrannied it. So basically no different from Linux, just slightly easier.
>>108649883If you have the capability to tinkertranny, you’re going to tinkertranny even on an iPad. What becomes a lot easier is running anything you want without having to worry about platform support. Eleven isn’t half as bad as you hear, but it’s going to significantly improve in the near future.
>>108649847Wake me up when they fix the shitty web UI, give back themes, and let people to disable updates and let people to make local accounts
>>108649910You can make local accounts today. What’s with this ‘disable updates’ though? What alternative system are you using that you never update? I notice even on Fedora, I have updates to perform every 2-3 days. With Windows it’s once a month, and security updates whenever needed (no reason to ignore these).
>>108649847Winhance makes the experience very bearable since I can take out the ass part of 11
>>108649847>crashes
>>108649847No it don't, If it did i would be using it.I don't give a shit for politics or open source or "security" or any of this trash.I just want an OS that works for me 100% of the time and don't keep wasting my SSD with fucking endless downloads and scans i didn't asked for.
>>108649847How do I get rid of the kernel-level spyware on Windows? How can I get a single widget toolkit for my desktop environment? How do I check my battery health without using CMD? How can I use less than a gigabyte of RAM after a cold boot? How do I avoid updates breaking stuff constantly?Oh, that's all impossible? Then Windows 11 doesn't just work.
>>108649907>>108649883yup, its pretty much this>if youre not willing to tinkertrannyjust pick windows>if youre willing to tinkertrannyjust pick windowsall you need is dism and powershell
>>108649980but enough about kde
>>108650071Post beef.
>>108650079ok
>>108650003>How do I get rid of the kernel-level spyware on WindowsBy not willingly installing kernel-level spyware in your machine.>How can I get a single widget toolkit for my desktop environment?You can't do that on Linux either without crippling yourself.>How do I check my battery health without using CMD?Usecase? And how do you do that on Linux? How often do you check "battery health"? >use less than a gigabyte of RAM after a cold bootUsecase? What's the fucking point of those retarded arbitrary metrics? You care about fucking cold boot ram usage but not how your notebook lasts 1/3 less time on linux?>How do I avoid updates breaking stuff constantly?You can disable automatic updates if you want, stop treating it as a rolling distro. You can have all updates other than security ones disabled. Or cripple defender and the update services to the point they don't work anymore. That way you can update manually whenever you want.>Why do people never talk about how simple it is to make windows obey youMost people that tinker with Windows are employed, unlike Linux users, unfortunately I am not.
>>108650084so this is the power of linux...
>>108650084Is that Plasma from 2020?
>>108650120don't know, don't care
>>108650127>don't know, don't careYeah you wouldn't know because you use LDXE LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>108650071The problem KDE has is unlike GNOME they don't have anyone to tell them NO (or should I say GNO), they just expand and expand and it becomes too difficult to maintain with the volunteer team.
>>108650136>using linuxI wouldn't even touch it with a ten foot stickWebms aren't mine
>>108650090>By not willingly installing kernel-level spyware in your machine.But the Windows kernel IS the kernel-level spyware.>You can't do that on Linux either without crippling yourself.What? Every Linux DE is built around a single toolkit.>Usecase? And how do you do that on Linux? How often do you check "battery health"?Finding out whether your low battery lives are the result of your battery degrading over time, or Windows becoming more bloated over time. On KDE Plasma you just click on the battery icon in your systray and it shows you your battery health, along with the current charge.I don't know why you put "battery health" in quotes as if it's not a self-evident or even commonly used term.>Usecase? What's the fucking point of those retarded arbitrary metrics? You care about fucking cold boot ram usage but not how your notebook lasts 1/3 less time on linux?Years of Microsoft's planned obsolescence brought my laptop to the point where it was getting less than an hour of battery life, and that was a device I ONLY used for uni work with MS Office; I never installed games on it, never went on porn sites with it, never installed random programs, and I rarely even used it outside of class. Suddenly, after not using it for half a year (I had graduated), Windows decided to use 2/3 of my RAM and drain my battery flat in under an hour. I thought my battery itself was dying when the issue was actually Windows. Microsoft probably hides the battery health from the GUI precisely so that you don't know your battery is fine, precisely so that you think your laptop is dying, in order to make you buy a new Windows 11 machine.>You can disable automatic updates if you wantThe issue isn't so much whether the updates are automatic, but the fact that I can't inherently trust the updates in the first place. I shouldn't be expected to research whether the vibecoding jeets at Microsoft borked this update; if I get an update notification, I should be able to trust it.
>>108649847>Windows>it's tough>to swallow>you will accept itMost accurate Winshitter thread ever.
>>108649907I realized marketing is just what companies want you to hear before I hit double digit age in years what is taking you this long? theres room enough up here for us allyou dont have to keep pretending companies value users anymore those days are long over, they started rebranding you to consumer a long time ago
>>108649847>>108650003>context menusfor me it was seeing a LOADING icon in the fucking NOTEPAD context menu. that was the single fucking straw for me that broke my ass. those assholes are so god damn ridiculous. what the ACTUAL FUCK are you downloading to the NOTEPAD MENU EVERY GOD DAMN TIME I RIGHT CLICK? its more joke than operating system.
>>108649847>Take the Microsoft pill today.Nobody cares, Windows is an OS for work. Most people use Macbooks, iPads, Chromebooks, Android and Consoles for private use.>Le gaymingThe most popular games are available on fucking iOS and Android. (You) can disagree all (You) want, but look at Roblox, Fortnite, Gacha shit and more.>Le softwareNigga, even Adobe and MS365 is on mobile and Mac. iOS and Android have a bigger market share than Windows.Also, look at fucking GameNative or GameHUB all your shitty games are now playable on Android. I feel sorry for you, if you really love computers, especially classic computing, you would be using Linux.
>>108649931>you van totally do that one thing that is way down on that list>why are you even questioning the other shit that I can't defendKYS moron
>>108651081There is no such thing as "work" on a computer.
>>108649931>I notice even on Fedora, I have updates to perform every 2-3 daysFedora doesn't force you to install updates. I haven't updated Fedora in like 3, maybe 4 weeks, simply because I haven't opened Discover in all that time.
>>108651233sure there is, we have to work hard just to endure your terrible replies, and believe me it's not easy
>>108651247>wefound the schizo tranny. There is no such thing as "work" on a computer. your father, despite being ashamed of you, explained this thoroughly to you and suggested going out and playing with the other boys who rejected your gay ass. So you his behind computers to larp as important and significant, because you aren't.
>>108651247Wow, you basically delivered a knockout, thanks for replying to that retard. I didn't even mean to reply, because the "arguments" are so weak.
>>108651397>>108651247sametranny. not namefagging today?
>>108651399You're working awfully hard giving me so many (you)s anon.
>>108651408pussy ass faggot behaving like his mommy, pushing buttons on male inventions and pretending he's "working". LMAO
>>108649847>next update bricks access to C:\Yeah no, I'll stick with 10.
>>108651399>sametrannyNo, just facts. (You)r original reply to my post was pathetic and I didn't even reply back... but I'm glad another anon knocked you out.have a great day, don't forget your meds.
>>108649847Your right. It just works.
>>108651425OK runit baritone tranny. keep crying you bitch ass faggot. hiding behind computers because you'll get beat the fuck up by real men.
>>108649847>>Take the Microsoft pill today.>File explorer that shows full folders as empty>File explorer saying there are no drives on the system>Bing search that confused back matter with black matter>Microsoft 365 Excel that displays the equations instead of carrying them out>Onedrive that infinitely loads a spreadsheet.>Bing search that cannot do basic calculations.I do not appreciate you.
>>108649847I've been on Linux for over 10 years, i have no reason to go back on windows, the few times i used a windows system because i wanted to develop thing for the windows platform it was just a pain in the ass with all the stuff i was missing.
>>108649931>You can make local accounts today.Really? No hacks? No regedit? No Microsoft Account first and then add a local account? With full support? Truly, honestly, you can do that?
>>108650084kek linux really is a joke
>>108649847
>>108649907>it’s going to significantly improve in the near future.How, when it just keeps getting worse?It's just "here, take shitty ai components that you never wanted" while also "here, 60% of this update was coded with ai, so it doesn't even install, but if it did it'd break your C drive".
>>108649847>Windows just works.Windows 11 has less hardware support than Windows 10. Recent Windows 11 updates have been bricking computers. The world would have been more functional without Windows 11 happening. Very literally.>You will ultimately accept it.Windows desktop marketshare has been on the decline. I own both Linux and a Windows desktop at home, but Windows has been getting enshittified with ads, copilot, unstable updates, recall, auto-installed bloatware, useless cloud services that require Microsoft accounts, etc. Would be nice if it would just stop getting worse. My Linux platform allegedly handles my GPUs better than my Windows box would, so there's that.>This really is the final pillWindows is still "good enough". Congrats. Use whatever you want.
>>108649883what do you even tinker with besides debloating
I use Windows 11 since 23H2, I use GNU/+Linux (Arch Flavour) for ~6 years and I use macOS since Big Sur.I have never EVER encountered a singular issue on either of those, they simply just work and perform the tasks they were made for perfectly fine with zero issues what-so-ever, all they require is a bit of configuring and they're perfect in their own regards.Your OS wars are more cringe than /v/'s console wars, which is funny because even /v/ grew out of those yet you children are still fighting about Operating Systems.
>>108651983this tranny is always shilling windows. ur entire style and format is known and recognized faggot
>>108651983>you children are still fighting about Operating Systems.But OP is wrong, you nigger.>>108651630>Really? No hacks?NTA but yes, with a workaround, you can make a local first account on Windows 11. When first installing Windows, don't be connected to the internet. If you're not connected to the internet, the Windows installer will give you the option to make a local account, because you can't sign up for an MS account without connectivity. This worked for me several months ago. Still pissed me off though.
>>108652207I know that he is wrong, I hate all of you equally in this thread and think you should all end your lives for indulging in such childish behaviours. You guys actually need to learn how to read posts throughout like this imbecile >>108652161 as well. Or invest all of this energy into a job or a hobby.This website is gonna be dead by 2030 because of low IQ subhumans like everyone ITT.
>>108652207>with an workaround
>>108652237>I know that he is wrong, I hate all of you equally in this thread and think you should all end your lives for indulging in such childish behaviours. You guys actually need to learn how to read posts throughout like this imbecile >>108652161 as well. Or invest all of this energy into a job or a hobby.>This website is gonna be dead by 2030 because of low IQ subhumans like everyone ITT.
>>108652237If 4chan dies it won't be because of people routinely shitting on Microsoft. It would be because of a critical mass of people who take any of this shit seriously.>>108652245tldr just be offline when installing Windows and you'll have a local account. Thank me later.
>>108649907I will switch when you bring back WebDAV support
>>108652237I'm gonna install Windozzzze now that a tranny said it's transtastic!
>>108652207>workaroundSo, unsupported. Thanks for confirming you and that "other anon" are deceptive asses.
>>108652237>I'm gonna get him banned for calling me a tranny even though I am and I'm proud to be a tranny
>>108652207I bought a new computer yesterday and it has windows 11 preinstalled, the first thing it did was force me to sit through an hour+ of mandatory updates before it would even let me do anything and then it did the ms account shit. This is because I hooked it up to the Internet unaware of how fucked up windows has gotten. The best part is even if you cancel the setup process and restart it will remember your WiFi password, you have to completely reinstall windows in order to go offline. Just flat out do not use windows, Microsoft does not respect you and the product shows. Windows 11 is the most broken pile of shit ever produced and the fact Microsoft has to pay shills to come in here and push their dogshit is very telling. Microsoft didn’t have to shill windows 7, it worked out of the box with no issues. In 2026 you can install Linux and works far better than this garbage, none of this hacky bullshit, no accounts, no forced updates, no AI training surveys, no copilot, just turn your computer on and use it.
>>108650003reminds me of kde
>>108650150So you just harvest webms of Plasma 5x because?
>>108650150How come I don't have this problem?
Linux just works
>>108654351Because you are allowed to eat beef
>>108652520>dogshitLearn to express yourself without resorting to 'shitty', 'dogshit', 'pile of shit', 'fucked up', it makes you sound illiterate or like a redditor; not sure which is worse. >just turn your computer on and use it.And then start fiddling around to find workarounds for the things that do not work.
>>108655827Oh I’m sorry would you prefer if I called it jeetniggerOS? >And then start fiddling around to find workarounds for the things that do not work.Ah, I see, you’re a shill. No wonder you got so offended when I called windows 11 a gigantic pile of shit. I think any operating system designed solely to extract user data in as many ways as possible is already pretty bad, but the fact windows 11 barely fucking works on top of that is what really upgrades it to dogshit status. Anyways, would you people please just fuck off already? No, you aren’t being subtle, we all know what you are.
>>108656183>we
>>108649847Not for games, used to get system crashes with certain games no matter what even on clean images. Switched to bazzite several months ago and I can finally play all of them without system crashes, not even CTDs. In fact I haven't gotten a single system crash period since switching.Also had horrible stutter for several games on Windows, nothing on Bazzite. Granted that is probably just a matter of shader precaching and vulkan being the default.
>>108656245Windows is obviously the best OS for gaming, and any opinion to the contrary is user error.
>>108651712Seems to work for a billion other people, why are you the special snowflake that has problems with it? Old hardware?
>>108656271Which user error is causing the lower framerates on Windows?
>>108658706Probably a selective screenshot? Here Windows clearly wins, but linux fanboys are celebrating that it’s close.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br_mbR3sTCY&t=321s
>>108658746I'm not talking about other games, I'm talking about Resident Evil Requiem. Which user error is causing Windows to get lower framerates in that game?
>>108649847*breaks itself and your SSD every update*Microslop
>>108658867This fact is a bit like your gender, just because you pretend it’s true, it doesn’t become reality for everybody else.
>>108649847If by just works you mean needs more setup than Arch then yeah it "just works".
>>108659269Chrome users get what they deserve. Chrome is the browser for people who used Internet Explorer until Chrome came out.
I hate how my revealing threads get taken down or die quickly while threads full of lies like this one that only benefit evil corporations like Microsoft last for days.
>>108659293>evil corporationsYou’re not in a Marvel movie, they’re just a company with a product. Casting yourself as some revolutionary hero for using an alternative operating system is silly.
you gotta modify the shit out of it!!!!!!!!
>check thread>inane shitflingingimagine unironically caring about what other people have inside their computer. thank god i'm not autistic
>hourly jay niggirwin flamewar troll thread>>108654351>11:03:10>>108655827>14:24:29>>108658660>22:28:43>>108659229>00:31:34>jay niggirwin samefags himself to save his flamewar troll thread from page 10 after hours of no bites again
>>108649847>windows>just werksSaid nobody ever who actually uses it. Thing needs almost 3x the tech support BigMacOS does, just ask IBM.
>>108659679>jeet corp whose entire business is setting up and installing crapplejeet trash says crapplejeet trash is better than the competitionget a toilet currynigger
>>108649847fuck off and kys