>>108650085
this devalues my 5800x3d

>>108651363
>He didnt sell his 5800x3d to upgrade to am5

>>108651378
I've already decided to skip am5 and I'm sticking with it.

>>108650085
>Are you still using AM4 bros?
yes, and i'm still using 5800x3d and 6900xt i bought in 2022

No. I have a 13900k.

Where the FRICK is the announcement?

Doesn't matter, DDR4 is also overpriced beyond reason and they're selling this shit at full price.

I have a 5900x
There's nothing AM4 that's an upgrade for me worth a shit
AM5 is still just too pricey to consider
By the time I upgrade, if I'm going to spend something over $1k just for the basic trio of components (CPU+RAM+motherboard) I might as well wait even more until there's an actual leap.

>>108652003
The point is that you take out your 3600 or 5600 and replace just the CPU. Hopefully you already have 32GB of RAM.

>>108652063
Thing is a lot of people already have Zen 3 CPUs where unless they nabbed a 5600 and somehow a pricey motherboard it's not really worth grabbing a 5800X3D at this point. They're not gonna drop the price on those to a point where it's even worth doing that sort of upgrade.

>>108652088
X3D AM4 upgrade makes (non-X3D) DDR5 upgrade redundant.

CPU and motherboards manufacturers now have hard time selling the latest hardware, because DDR5 is too expensive.

>>108652185
Again, that's if you have a considerably weaker X3D CPU.
If you have a 5900X you're not gonna rush to the store to grab a 5800X3D. It's a tradeoff.

>>108650085
>Are you still using AM4 bros?
no, i upgraded to intel

>>108652194
Majority of people took low-mid range CPUs like 3600 or 5600. That's the target audience.

>>108652213
Put other things into context.
The kind of people buying a 5600 would get a shitty motherboard and PSU, and slower RAM as well. These are budget builds. It's not like they max out everything but then pick out the modest CPU. Speaking of, the 5600 was 200 bucks at release. So the upgrade they get offered is a CPU only upgrade for the cost of their CPU+Mobo+RAM. Of course add to that a $40 cooler but that's not really the point. Thing is, the "affordable" upgrade path is barely affordable and barely an actual upgrade worth considering unless their shit is actually dying.

I have a 5700X (non 3D) and I plan on keeping it until AM6

>>108652259
I had Ryzen 3600, budget B450 motherboard, 16GB of 3200MHz RAM, not even M2 SSD. I built it when I was still studying.

Last year I upgraded to 5700X3D, got another 16GB, replaced PSU so it could handle 9070XT and got 2TB PCIe 4 SSD (PCIe 3 motherboard, but I wanted something that could be a faster when I build a new PC). The cooler was already good, since I decided not to cheap out on it of all things back then.

I upgraded, instead of building new AM5 based PC, because it didn't seem worth it. The most problematic games are in particular hard on CPU and these would run poorly even 7800X3D, games like STALKER 2, so I just gave up.

I imagine there are a lot more people thinking similar now.

AM4 is the new AthlonXP/64 as Intel is back on their Pentium 4 period
History always repeats itself

>>108652315
Frankly though, Stalker 2 is ungodly broken

>>108653985
>Frankly though, Stalker 2 is ungodly broken
Yup, but there were also other games. Like Dragon's Dogma 2, which can't hold locked 60 fps with my 5700X3D, and neither it could on 7800X3D on launch.

Games worth playing will be more or less optimized to run decently on 5600. At this point I don't mind skipping games that I couldn't run at locked 60 fps.

I know jackshit about how CPUswork
On the technical side of things, what is stopping amd from implementing the stuff that makes am5 CPUs faster on an AM4 chip and motherboard? There can't be that much difference between sockets and motherboards between architectures

>>108650085
i have a 9800x3d already but if i didnt i would have gotten this

>>108655025
Just wait until they release zen6 then you won't look at the 5800x3d the same way.
Am4 is a dead platform being resurrected by a market bubble gobbling up ddr5 ram.