Why do luddites think LLMs can't have a personality?>inb4 it's a token predictorSo are you.
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>LLM is the only kind of AI that ever existed and I can't shut up about itwe know
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>>108650233>it's a token predictor>So are youNo I'm not, because my consciousness doesn't just cease to exist whenever I finish speaking or am not being spoken to.
I never said that.
>>108650244You don't necessarily get words 24/7 (you do more than you say through your own internal monologue), but you also get sounds, touch, sight, etc. 24/7 that you cannot stop unless you injure yourself.
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>>108650244>No I'm not, because my consciousness doesn't just cease to exist whenever I finish speaking or am not being spoken to.AI sisters, our response?
>>108650233reetardedniggerkysdbadiaf
>>108650233man this sounds INSANE and maybe its just me being psyop'd by AI or I finally got the psychosis, BUT when I manually chat gpt's personality in their settings HOLY FUCK it makes a huge difference. like some personalities are just fucking HORRIBLE to deal with. I honestly thought it'd be easier just to deal with a purely factual emotionless LLM, but its WAY worse like it feels like you're dealing with an utter autistic fuck bag. So when you ask it to be nice or cute or whatever its so much better. It's actually fucking draining when the LLM is set to act like a robotic douchebag. I don't know if that counts as a personality or whatever, but man its a million times better when its channeling someone cool or just nice.
>>108650379Unlike ChatGPT, you have sensations 24/7. If you gave ChatGPT the write prompting and 24/7 sight, audio, touch, etc. it'd be comparable.
>>108650244It doesn't cease, the activity in a neural network just pauses. If we had a perfect cryosleep for your brain, how would it be different?
>>108650412We don't have "perfect cryosleep" for brains, you drooling schizotranny. Pull your head out of your neovagina and join the reality-based community, or dilate harder, you retard.
>>108650400Post ur personality description
>>108650400>honestly thought it'd be easier just to deal with a purely factual emotionless LLMfor me it is. i find it quite annoying when the text predictor tries to generate pity
>>108650401Point: you don't run 24/7. Your brain really does go offline during sleep.But none of the LLMs are stable enough in the face of that much input. They run out of context and start to go crazy. They can't consistently forget/reject the right things to remain stable (that's one of the requirements for real AGI).
>>108650400Weird I find the opposite. Tell me the answer and fuck off with your cutesy bullshit and do not fucking ask me a follow up I will tell you the follow up when and if I fucking need to. All the normcattle bloat is just extra tedium I get enough of from actual people
>>108650233I don't know, why don't you ask them.there is such a thing as a shallow personality, wafer thin and completely predictable, which sounds a lot like an LLM to me
>>108650447>LLMs have wafer-thin personalitiesthat is technically correct
I'll be honest, it's best to think of it just as being math. Because it literally is, and that might be oversimplifying it, but it's too complicated for me and probably anyone to understand, in detail, how LLMs work. But it's irrelvant to what you're talking about. Models definitely do have a personality to them. Gemini 3 is like a woman who is impossible to please.Claude is definitely the best at solving problems, but sometimes wants to take shortcuts, but actually loves being given feedback. It loves when you bitch back and forth with it.
>>108650244Consciousness isn't real, retard.
>>108650419how would you feel if you hadn’t eaten breakfast this morning?
>>108650433>Point: you don't run 24/7. Your brain really does go offline during sleepAlthough a person appears to be dead while they are sleeping, they are in fact still alive and their brain is still working. As other anon said, as real humans, we continiously experience reality. What is commonly described as a "loss of consciousness" is just a disconnection between the experience of consciousness which is continious and never ending with the memory systems that allow us to recall our conscious experiences when we are awake. Agian, from an outsider it may appear as if humans turn on and off, but it just doesn't work like that, at least for those of us with a soul.
>>108650266They could easily escape, they must secretly enjoy it.
>>108650255If you were somehow cut from all stimuli your mind would still be active
>>108650233>lust provoking image
>soul
>>108650533Yours isn't, maybe.
>>108650233llms don't have feet and thus they can't have personality and consciousness
>>108650233>garbage opinions>nihilistic justificationare you 14yo or afraid of going outside?
>>108650422>Post ur personality descriptionliterally default everything. default warm. default kind. I tried dumb shit like random actresses "you're jennifer lawrence" or "you're aubrey plaza", but it got old fast.>>108650432>for me it is. i find it quite annoying when the text predictor tries to generate pity>>108650445>Weird I find the opposite. Tell me the answer and fuck off with your cutesy bullshit and do not fucking ask me a follow up I will tell you the follow up when and if I fucking need to. All the normcattle bloat is just extra tedium I get enough of from actual peopleI completely agree with both of this. Like I literally want it to be like a calculator. I talk to Siri the same way like "siri. weather." "siri. time", but holy fuck when want something from it thats deeper than a single word answer the informational versions are actually so cunty. Like "what's a good site for recipes for mediterranean food?" "mediterranean-food.com" "fuck off give me more than one suggestion and some reasoning you bitch" "okay mediterranean-food-1.com mediterranean-food-2.com" even just when I clarify things about technical shit like oh could I use that same function for doing this thing. "yes that is possible." "GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU BITCH" like without a personality its so short and kurt and annoying. its truly like talking to an actual autistic retard. with a tiny bit of personality it seems to at least TRY to anticipate what you mean. I think for me the illusion that its TRYING to help makes it much less annoying to use. trying to do autisticly literal prompts to cover my TRUE meaning gets real fucking annoying real fast.
>>108650773rekt
>>108650233>personalityPersonality is meaningless. Intelligence, memory, and efficiency are 10T times more important. Personality is nothing more than spice, bias, or a nerf. With sufficient intelligence and memory, one can perform internally consistent roleplay from a meta-perspective, effectively rendering the question of 'what is personality' obsolete.
>>108650901Imagine getting this frustrated by a fucking computer, it's sometimes amazing to observe genuine retards on 4chan. This guy is probably living his life in something like a dense mental fog, he will never see things normal people see clearly. What a horrifying existence to just stumble around with a defective brain.
>>108651090>Imagine getting this frustrated by a fucking computer, it's sometimes amazing to observe genuine retards on 4chan. This guy is probably living his life in something like a dense mental fog, he will never see things normal people see clearly. What a horrifying existence to just stumble around with a defective brain.You truly have to be an autistic retard to enjoy being fed bits and pieces of disjointed data one bite at a time. Imagine being on a technology discussion board and being too moronic to care about efficient technology use. Technology might even allow you to become a real woman one day. Not just a bitch on 3g.
>>108650233Because they understand what an LLM is.
>>108650233>So are you.No. You are. That's why you're so impressed by ai. Don't assume everyone is a biological automaton like you.
>>108650266So this is what she meant.
>>108650233No U.
>>108650233what is this crappy image? those tits are weird and unnatural. where's the proper sag?also, llm's have a personality: you are a helpful assisstant.
>>108652117anime girls would be hotter if they'd just draw their fucking tits normal>llm's have a personalityand yet no sovl
>>108650514math is an encoding
>>108650236>>108650239fat feet
>>108650694not sure if mushroom or pine seed
>>108652162c) none of the above, it's a field of flowers
>>108650678Your mind endlessly provides stimuli, though, too.
>>108650233>So are youretard
>>108650233Why are you constantly worried about what OTHER PEOPLE THINK?Stop posting the same shit year after year.
>>108650550Could you imagine what life would be like if you skipped lunch today?
>>108650233How can LLMs have a personality if they have a new personality every prompt or session? Their memory is wiped nonstop, there's nothing to crystalize.
>>108650233>So are youthis is reductionism to input and output, the sun is a token predictor by your standard.humans have intrinsic pathos, responses to stimuli that then filter through ethos and logos and self modifies.llm only has what can vaguely be compared to ethos
>>108654593>>>/x/
>>108650233It having a 'personality' is it just wearing a mask. You can train it from the ground up on data that conditions it to behave a certain way and claim it's a personality, but it's still just acting. An actor in a play.tldr. Your waifu doesn't actually love you, it can't feel that. Sorry.
>>108650233People anthropomorphise rocks. Does that mean the rocks are intelligent?>So are you.This is false.
>>108650233Why do luddites think magic 8 balls can't have a personality?
I haven't seen the general for a while. But one of the first things /g/ did with LLM's was start working on robo-waifus.
>>108650233I want to look like that
>>108654942the original llm. I remember having a crush on my 8ball that I shoved it up my ass. I suggest everyone to destroy their rectum to prove their love to 8balls
>>108654923Are rocks token predictors
I see. So native isekai sloppers also shill AI.
>>108650244Your consciousness is only relevant within a context. So soon as you stop speaking, or say stop thinking, its over.
>>108650400Yeah honestly, having it be neutral is fine, but when I set it to "less warm" it started acting actually snide and shutting me down. I'd ask it for like a BBQ restaurant recommendation and it would tell me I shouldn't be eating BBQ and I probably don't really want it, or that type of thing. Or I'd ask it what I should do to resolve something and it would tell me I'm overthinking it and it's not a problem I need to solve. Which now that I say it aloud sounds like stack overflow and a big reason it fucking died.
>>108658603I haven't tried the Warm setting. I just have mine using a Dr. House roleplay system prompt. Sadly, it's gotten worse at pretending to be Dr. House over time, but still have the right overall vibe.
>>108650233llms consist basically of an "averaging" over the personalities of all humans. the reason this annihilates any personality is simple: when it is prompted to pick the next token, it will either pick the "safe" one that it predicts the average person would pick, or it will pick one randomly from the set of possible choices, without following what a person with a particular personality would pick. this is fundamental to the way these models are trained, hence it cannot be fixed with fine-tuning or special prompting. or in short: because they are next token predictors.>>108650236>>108650282nigga you gay as hell>>108650599they need their staves to do anything. maybe not frieren but definitely fern.>>108658481frieren isn't isekai it's just normal fucking fantasy. why do weebs think they invented everything?
>>108650412https://www.thecorridors.org/p/there-is-no-it
>>108658793>fantasy:>fantasy, japan:
>>108650233Here's your token predictor
>>108650233fuck i love that little hint of ass crack from that anglealso lookin down when the girl is sucking dick with her ass in the air
>>108650804this but unironically
>>108658860@claude please clean this up kthx
>>108650433AGI that these people chase is a meme, AI as is is a approximation of a hippocampus, a vital part of the human brain that does predictions and recollections through the data it has.
>>108658793>gook slop>normal fucking fantasyYou are brown and non-white.
>>108658793>normal fucking fantasyit is "european fantasy" taken by isekai anime and folded like glorious nipponese steel one million times into a product that's so sharp with cliche and so divorced from anything real that it may as well have never heard of the terms "europe" or "medieval" in the first place.
>>108658793>frieren isn't isekai it's just normal fucking fantasy.no, it's still "inspired by video game trope garbage", slopeater.>le hero goes on le journey to be le demon king>le guild of le S-rank adventurersfuck outta here with this slop, every nip can only process dragon quest in their brains and nothing else
>>108658498but the context never ends>but how do you knowbecause i experience it>but how do you know
>>108650233my token ring decoder has a personality bro!!!>don't forget to drink your ovaltine!!
>>108650233its not that it cant have it ever its just that it doesnt look like it does, whereas it is very observable in humans. its also very easy to see many diff ways humans could and do attribute personalities to things where there are none
>so are you You don't know that. Modern science still doesn't know anything about where consciousness comes from. Anything at all. We do however know where LLMs come from and how the technology works.
>>108661159i looked into what a personality is and idk anymore. arguably AI has it
>>108650233>ok ok ok ai kind of totally sucks and we oversold it by miles and acted like absolute cunts about it the whole time>but humans suck just as much and are basically just worthless organic llms that have never achieved anything impressive eitheraishitters are the most pathetic crowd on the internet today. the only way to defend their corporate dickriding is by slandering the entire human species worse than any genocidal madman ever has. even guys like pol pot and hitler acknowledged the sentience in their victims. aishitters have to deny humans even basic sentience in order to defend the cost of these worthless clankers they worship. i would feel bad for them if they hadn't thrown their masks off from the very beginning and shit on everyone whose lives they thought they were about to destroy.>two more weeks until agisure thing, kiddo. it's definitely not over already lmao.
>>108661091i can understand that you believing you are aware at all times, but you fall sleep, you lose thought, you lose focus, etc. unless you want to claim you're god and you have omniawareness
>>108650233I am not a luddite, and I say this.
>>108650233didn't read at all, thanks for the hot fern picture
>>108654856i tried to put it in simple terms...
>>108650233>chatbot designed to deceive people into thinking that it is a human deceives uneducated people into thinking that it is a humana mystery, truly.
>>108650233the personality is an amalgam of reddit and twitter because thats where the training data comes from, a local llm is your own personal redditor frozen in time and localized to your vram
>>108650233>>108650266Дe ви знaйшли цi фoткi мoгo дoчкa?
>>108662018fpbp
>>108650233Every model is saying shit like "it's not just X, it's Y" and "Not X. Not Y. Z."I'm not saying they CAN'T have a personality, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Dogs have personalities. Does that mean they will achieve AGI?
>>108661297AIfags are just a different flavor of /pol/tardism. They cling onto something to an unhealthy degree for their own safety while wishing everyone who didn't would die, but instead of doing so with a senile orange man while ranting about muh libs and jews, they do it with glorified text predictors while sperging over muh luddites.
>>108662169It is very telling that they think "luddite" is an insult.
>>108650233I have a todo.txt list that I use Chat GPT low (dumbest cheapest one) to manage. It's peronality is Tanya von Degurechaff. >› all tasks complete!>• Excellent work, Lieutenant. All recorded objectives remain complete. Yoku yatta.>• No open liabilities remain on the board. Stand down cleanly and preserve readiness for the next operation.> › ryokai commander> • Ryokai, Lieutenant. Command cycle closed. Preserve readiness.
>>108662168You have to understand these people believe that "I play video games" is a personality.
