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> the Third-Generation Qilin Battery with 280 Wh/kg energy density enabling up to 1,500 km range
>the Qilin Condensed Battery at 350 Wh/kg also supporting 1,500 km range. The company
>the Second-Generation Freevoy Super Hybrid Battery offering 600 km pure electric and 2,000 km combined range
>mass production of the Naxtra sodium-ion battery by the end of 2026

What do we think about it?

I'm looking forward to the Naxtra sodium ion batteries personally.
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What capacity are these percent values based on?
The image must be deceiving because the only sensable answer is thst they are talking about a per-cell value. Likely something around 20Ah
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>cattle battery
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>>108658599
Doubles as an ied.
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>>108658599
How easy are they for the manufacturer to recycle?
Or just conventional ev batteries? The cost of replacing them is my main gripe
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>>108659227
>How easy are they for the manufacturer to recycle?
One of the main reason as to why battery prices have dropped like a rock the past few years is because of recyclability. People thought batteries would get more expensive because lithium extraction/refining has gotten more expensive, but with recyclability, they're just reusing almost everything.
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>>108658599
so it degrades 10% in like 3 years? batteries are trash once they hit like 70%, this car will last probably like 6 years and then need to be scrapped, they really need to start designing these electric cars so that the entire battery can just be pulled out and replaced by a couple mechanics in like an hour
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>>108659644
>so it degrades 10% in like 3 years
What kind of driving do you do that makes you do a full recharge of 700km+ every single day? We're talking ultrafast charges, of 0% to 100% in under 10 minutes every day.

Do you do 700,000km of driving every 3 years? What's your mileage on your current vehicle?
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>>108659644
>they really need to start designing these electric cars so that the entire battery can just be pulled out and replaced by a couple mechanics in like an hour
They can be. You don't even need a mechanic. They have automated machines that do it in minutes.
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I'll be impressed once they can match the typical range of a petrol car in cold conditions. Not before.
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>>108658599
AI generated?
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>>108659817
between wood mod and electric car, my feelings are why not both, but im a poor so the reason is money.
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>>108658599
Looking forwad to seeing real perfamce in benchmarks.
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>>108660307
Should be in EVs in China before Q2 ends. Which would mean in vehicles in SEA/Europe before 2026 ends.

I'm predicting the 1500km tag is just the battery itself, and it'll be 1000km once actually inside a vehicle. It matches with energy densities and range of previous batteries.
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>>108662495
For example, the 2nd gen Qilin battery was released in 2022 with 255Wh/kg at 727kg pack level and gave "1000km" range but inside a vehicle it was ~700km. The condensed battery's energy is 350Wh/kg at 650kg with a rating of 1500km, so it should be around 1000km of real life range.
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Why are they wanking about range and fast charging, always
All these batteries can only take a very limited number of cycles and you lose a huge chunk of the capacity in 5-10 years. Yeah I suppose if my car has 1000km range brand new and that's down to 500km in ten years maybe that's a decent way to brute force having usable capacity left at that point. But then it will keep degrading and also I'm lugging around the weight of a battery designed for 1000km and only using half of it.

Just make a battery that can take 10,000 charging cycles in winter or summer and keep 90-95% of its capacity. That's all EVs need right now.
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>may an independent outside specialist see it?
>...no
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>>108662847
CATL isn't Donut. They've shipped millions of batteries
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>>108658599
china number one
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>>108658631
>Cow-based battery
I for one welcome our cattle overlords
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>>108662847
>>108663372
1-in-2 EVs source their batteries from CATL, with Tesla themselves sourcing 45% of their batteries from CATL. They don't just do cars, they make batteries for your laptop, your phone, your RV, your solar power wall, your grid energy storage, etc.

They're one of the biggest battery manufacturer in the world, and they gobble up more market share every year.
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>>108658599
niggg
https://xcancel.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2046605959905026548#m



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