Would MacOS be better if Macs had user-replaceable components, unlocked bootloaders, and officially let you install MacOS on non-Apple hardware?
>>108658881No, it's probably kill their profits since their profit model is basically 'buy our hardware for our software' and 'upgrade every year plz'.
>>108658881They don't even need all of that replaceable ram and storage would get most of /g/ on board as much as they hate to admit
consider how shit w11 is, then imagine if it were 5X worse, and 5X as expensive.that's the steaming heap of pajeet shit that is crapple pajeetOS, running on its own custom tailored specially designed first party apploo hardwarethese curryniggers can't even update their own pajeetOS on their own 100% in house 100% custom designed currybooks without bricking themnow imagine if these street shitters released their curryniggerOS to run on completely unsupported hardware with drivers made by onions boy hobbyists, that's pajeetintoshmacos is the biggest heap of currynigger shit in the history of operating systems, and releasing it on PC would finally expose this curryniggerOS to the world for the steaming heap of pajeet shit that it isthe only difference between apple and ms, is that apple have brainwashed their subhuman retard customers into thinking applel's street shits smell like roses
>>108659286>releasing it on PC would finally expose this curryniggerOS to the world for the steaming heap of pajeet shit that it isYeah that's what I suspect. If MacOS stopped being gatekept for a moment, everybody would immediately see how bad it is.
>>108658881no, the community needs to be competent in reverse engineering the software so we can reap the rewards of using a hackintosch. letting vendors handle everything is exactly how we ended up not being able to buy a 32gb ram macintosch. Year 5 of waiting on armfags to do it.
I think it'd need more stuff to make it worth it.Even if it was running on a PC you'd have to deal with some other bullshit. I say this having used hackintosh back in 2015. It was running fine and stable, I even liked some of it (I'm using a mac mini now, so I know how much or how little it changed) but even on a powerful system there were tasks it just performed either faster or much slower.
>>108658881>user replaceable componentsneo is repairable>unlocked bootloaderit's not locked>let you officially install on non-apple hardwaremacos benefits by not having to support every cost-optimized piece of shit from china
>>108660851Didn't finish my post.Anyways I think the biggest thing it lacks is games, which is something macfags have an aversion for. Whenever you ask it's "this is not a gaming machine". My way of thinking, this is a computer, and so is a PC. I can't find an equivalent in price PC that's equally as bad at a certain task, as macOS is at just running games. There's probably an editing tool that runs a little faster on macOS than Windows currently, but not to the point whrre it's unusable on Windows. The only thing that seems to generally suck about PC, specifically laptops in that aspect, is battery life, but nothing software specific.In my tests back then with macOS (OSX), I was running native versions of games available on Windows under the same exact hardware, considerably slower. A good number of people installed Windows on Apple hardware just to get more performance there. Today the gap is obviously much worse for obvious reasons. But no, I don't believe x86 macOS on a PC would be able to handle this well. I'm sure some people can confirm with their somewhat now dated RDNA2/Zen 3 builds they can still somehow install hackintosh on.
>>108660880>neo is repairableThe RAM and SSD are soldered on.
No. I'm starting to realize the power of Mac is that their hardware/software is in sync. The disconnect between Winshit and the PC manufacturers is a huge issue.
>>108660901learn to solder. intel makes chips with the ram soldered on as well.
>>108660889All emulators work fine
thats what they were like 15 years ago and it made them seem like an absolute joke by comparisonthis is also where apple got the reputation of being a design company, since when youre selling the same hardware as every other manufacturer the only thing that sets you apart is the designapple silicon is competent, its the best at its niche (compute/watt)but its misleading when tech illiterate retards extrapolate this to absolutely everything, in reality its just not really that relevant for anything thats not a portable device
>>108660917Emulators are a fraction of it. You could emulate a lot these days on Android even.You have this new tool called Gamehub, I think it's some chinese shit. It connects to your Steam account to play a lot of games with heavy upscaling on macOS, it's in beta.But to see games like Elden Ring render at 1080p@60fps require an M4 Max (a $4k laptop unless it's a mini, I guess) is definitely a bit insane.
>>108660940gamehub is from gamesaar. i think it was released for android first and now macos.
It would be WAY worse.It's a monumental task to get your OS running on as much hardware as Windows and Android run on.Yes, MS is retarded these days, but they're poggybacking off of when they were extremely competent.Yes, I know hardware vendors have to do a lot of the compatibility legwork, but NS also has to do a LOT.
>>108660916Soldering RAM isn't like soldering a fucking cable, otherwise everyone would upgrade their njudea GPUs to 48GB of VRAM. But that's not the only thing, you gotta have shit that plays nicely with Apple. Yeah, technically you can upgrade the SSD on a Mac Mini M4, it's not soldered. Guess what, you have to buy very specific SSDs, you can't just pop in a fucking SN770M and get done with it. 300 eurodollars for 1TB, I guess because they know Apple charges 500 for going from 128gb to 1tb, but now you fucked your warranty.
>>108660916>intel makes chips with the ram soldered on as well.The L3 cache? Sure, but I can replace the CPU itself with my bare hands.
>>108660940>Emulators are a fraction of it.99/100 of it lol.Valve said they made a compatibility layer like wine except for arm to render x86, and they have the Steam Frame on arm which they want to play x86 games. Long term ARM is fine.
>>108658881No. Not having to fiddle around with hardware is one of the things that drew me to Mac in the first place. The real issue is the lack of compatibility for MacOS.
>>108658881MacOS would be better if it had a start bar and a better file browser than finder.Windows 98 perfected how an OS US should be, and everything OSX does is a cope to be different for different sake.Start menu, programs that are actually open on the task bar, file manager you can type addresses.Simple as.
>>108660964>It's a monumental task to get your OS running on as much hardware as Windows and Android run on.Freetards do it though.
>>108658881>and officially let you install MacOS on non-Apple hardware?Nigger, we need proper Apple hardware support in Linux, we don't need iJeet glorified ROM on our x86 devices.
>>108661045lunar lake.
>>108661061>MacOS would be better if it had a start bar and a better file browser than finder.The taskbar is fine, it's one way of working with shit while having labels.But I don't get the comparison with windows in regards to the file manager. If there's something slower than Windows explorer I'd like to know. That shit is sluggish even on my PC with an SN850X. The only way search can be salvaged (thankfully) on windows is through Everything, which does something non conventional.You can't even enable filetagging on NTFS without it melting itself whenever there's a single folder with files with about 10 different tags. There's no folder actions or anything similar. If something, I can see something getting better than Finder more on Linux than on Windows.
>>108661076Is it only because of efficiency?I'll never understand buying apple hardware to use a non apple OS on it. Maybe now if somehow on linux power management can be figured out with these M chips it'd be worth it, but I've seen x86 apple hardware users installing linux on these machines and I'm just perplexed. What the fuck for? They're were weaker, pricier, harder to repair, the touchpad is almost unusable, what the fuck?
>>108661129I used linux on apple (arm) because it was quite fast for the price when doing dev for other arm stuff.I used to buy apple intel laptops and put linux on them because the hardware was nice and there were repair shops. touchpad is a personal preference.
>>108661059>ot having to fiddle around with hardware is one of the things that drew me to Mac in the first placeGive an example of fiddling around with hardware on any other laptop or pre-built.
>>108658881MacOS is unusable to the core. I don't think it's fixable with modularity or whatever, it's the core philosophy and mindset that's already fubar
I don't like the experience of using it. That's its greatest shortcoming, not the kind of hardware it's tied to.
>>108658881No, because it would be installed on Thinkpads and run like ass. macOS almost made its way onto Sony VAIOs though back in the day, but that’s because VAIO was based af and a leader in the field.
>>108658881Mountain Lion was the last version of Mac OS worth using.
>>108660940You can also just use crossover lol.
>>108662059This might sound like bullshit but I had High Sierra (Hackintosh) on an X220 and besides some bullshit with the brightness it ran reasonably well. It even had working power management (I could set the thing to sleep and not lose more than 2% over a whole day).
>>108662322Practically the same shit performance wise.This chinese thing is supposed to just give a nicer UI. Also it's free (for now) as opposed to Crossover.Honestly if macOS was fine for indieshit, no problem. But I'm running native Silksong on it and it makes no sense that my Deck is able to play it considerably better than a pricier miniPC with an apple logo. I can't process this shit.
>>108662059Thinkpads have always made sure that the cooling is enough for the components. Apple has always made sure your device cooks your balls and makes you sterile. All the way from their first devices ever and it's a tradition set in stone.
>>108658881why would software be better if it's developed for a fuckton of devices instead of select few? is there a brain in this empty head of yours?
>>108662441>108c>fans at 1200rpmi have a third party app for fan control and don't have these issues. maybe try actually using the fan you have before demanding another one.
>>108662557You don't pay premium to tinker. This is an apple computer, it should do that by itself, for you, the customer, the ball sucker.
>>108662600i'll tinker if i want. any power user configs shit like fans--even on windows.
>>108662606Wow nice. You have the option to not have the fucking thing cook itself. What a praiseworthy thing to pay for.
>>108662387>SilksongMy over a decade old dogshit dirt cheap RX 470 PC that bluescreened every other day had zero issues playing that entire game, never experienced any lag anywhere. The M4 Max should be its technical superior in all aspects. How can anything made today fail to run Skong?
>>108662557>what are you talking about, the macbook doesn't have inadequate cooling>I just install a third party software to make the single fan sound like a jet engine and vacuum all the dust off the floor from a standing height>how dare you point flaws of my favorite company!Meanwhile in the real world:
>>108662648To be fair I'm talking about a base M4 Mini. But that shit should handle the game just fine.Instead I'm presented with something that somehow, just somehow frameskips. It's my understanding that unless something uses Metal for graphics it's over, pack it up and go home. I'm very glad it's not my main machine. If I thought something like "well I'll buy a macbook pro and replace my PC, and just get by with some indie games" and found this out I would find it a bit humiliating.Something stupid to me is how you can connect a dualsense to macOS and somehow get more controller settings than you would on Windows without installing a third party application. For a platform that is so awful for games they put effort on this shit?Something even more stupid is, certain games have an app store exclusivity. What's that, you bought the PC version on Steam and there's an Apple native version, but it's not showing up on your Library? Too bad, time to buy it in the fucking app store. Which wouldn't make any sense to do anyways. Who the fuck is going to buy a Mac Studio to play Death Stranding DC.
>>108662621apple lets the chip get that hot. evidently they think it's ok.>>108662741why are you highlighting something about plastic in water?>>108662796apple not backing steam is retarded. i agree there. i haven't played silksong on mac, so i can't comment there.
>>108662822>evidently they think it's okI don't? It's melting me bloody keys lad.
>>108662822>apple lets the chip get that hot. evidently they think it's ok.good lord you're a lost cause. You'd cut your tongue if they said it was fine to do so.
>>108662856eh, you're just reposting apple schizos images. they're always flawed. get your own material.
>>108658881>user-replaceable componentsthey have >unlocked bootloadersthey have>and officially let you install MacOS on non-Apple hardware?no
>>108663361>they haveHow do I upgrade the RAM, SSD, CPU, or motherboard in a Mac?
>>108663368You can't
>>108662557>i have a third party app for fan controlWeren't some macbooks made without fans but with some retarded heat capacitor?
>>108660940>1080p@60fpslollmao even
