Don't believe that nonsense.They're just price gouging you.
>>108667955>buy our cheap shit!no thanks Ying-Poo
>Nice domestic industry you've got there>It'd be a shame if someone dumped government subsidized shit on your customers
>>108667955chinas economy is fucked, this shill crap is ridiculous, dumping loss making overproduction is a symptom of that
>>108667955if you sell b grade product at a loss and sales volume is high how is that good?
>the RAM cartel is back to it's usual hijinksyeah no shithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal
>>108667955not all ICs are the same. they can sell a billion 555 timers, but it doesn't mean anything.
>>108668303I can't believe china's selling $5000 555sowait, that's apple. yeah your gdp numbers are all kike lies
this artificial shortage was the perfect opportunity for China to mog the existing leaders in the fieldSoon we'll get cheaper and better chips like in other markets with proper competition hope none of you anons boughted during the crisis. All you had to do was wait
>>108668074>>108668094>>108668182>>108668193>China is giving $234B worth of chips away... for free!>China is selling EVs at a loss>China is selling solar panels at a loss>China is giving away trillions of free money to everybody every year>$1.2T of trade surpluses? More like $12T (x10) of free money to everybody around the worldWow... based China! They've been doing this for like 10 years now, so that's like $120T of free shit to everybody. Gonna buy more shit from them in order to bankrupt them.
when they say chips they LARGELY mean phone chips
>>108667955this growth obviously is fueled by are B-tier node sizes no one cares about or not even gpu/cpus
>>108668750>B-tier node sizes no one cares about$234B worth of chips nobody cares about? I wish I had $234B worth of "nobody cares" money.
>>108669504When people say "chip shortage", they obviously mean a shortage of current gen and last gen chips. B-tier nodes are irrelevant to the topic no matter how much money they make.
>>108670226Who cares what gaymers think. I need my toast and my clothes washed.
>>108671585>gaymersThey don't get shit right now. All the good nodes are going to AI GPUs, Apple and $2000 laptops
>>108668494I'm waiting for reviews of the guys who bought chinese hardwareI don't need 2 nm tech, GPUs and RAMs have plateaud
>>108671917Yes, we just need VRAM. There's no need for more powerful GPUs as long as video game studios know how to optimize. DLSS 5 is gay nigger shit.
You went to bed, woke up, and then bumped your dogshit thread. What a waste of electrons.
>>108674691bump :)
>>108668193Same reason enshittification works. It's all about creating dependency. The difference is that you reject the need to have a quality product at the beginning, so as you get better and more dependence, you can also have different product lines later.
lol
>>108668182Cry.
>>108668182This is some next level cope.
>>108667955anon, this is volume of exports as in money, not quantity in units. it doesn't explain WHY they got more money from exports.don't confuse these things, they could have made things more expensive for legit reasons (increased costs, whatever) while keeping production levels, and you'd get the same line.
>>108682999Right. Selling 1 billion chips for $100B vs. selling 1.1 billion chips for $200 due to costs rising.
I keep seeing headlines saying shortages are going to get worse, and other parts are going to get affected like CPUs and power supplies next as resources for the consumer market get redirected to the more profitable datacenter side. But I'm also seeing headlines that say almost half of datacenters are either getting cancelled or delayed.So where is this hardware going, just to sit in warehouses? Are people getting a little overexcited that 2 or 3 datacenters got cancelled over the thousands planned?
>>108667955Yeah china is growing a ton when it comes to integrated circuits, especially when it comes to data converters, LDOs, PMICs and other more analog shit like that which they can already make entirely on their own because those types of circuits often use older nodes since analog circuits don't benefit from miniaturization the same way that digital circuits do.Though at the moment most chinese IC companies still have too little track record of quality assurance and stable supply chains to be considered serious competitors for anything remotely critical, but chinese chips are already being used on low cost stuff like toys and very budget tech.It's really just a matter of time before serious chinese companies in this sector get big really. Their government subsidizes them to reduce the risk of this type of business and most of the academic publications in the field nowadays are from chinese universities (and that's happening despite indian universities spamming the shit out of every journal with articles that are pointless 95% of the time) and China already offers similar salaries for this type of work as the USA when accounting for cost of life, so there's little reason for those academics to leave the country when they go into the industry side.I work at an europoor office and I know multiple people learning chinese to maybe move there for work because it is unironically easier than getting into the USA at the moment if you are already in the workforce kek. The USA is tunnelvisioning so hard into AI that China is slowly eating their lunch on older industries america used to dominate or at least be big players at, like cars, energy and non-computer chips. The country is going to be pretty toast if AI doesn't pan out.
>>108684959>I work at an europoor officeYuropeon cope detected, opinion utterly disregarded.
>>108684981>Yuropeon cope detectedWhat cope? Europe has gone from being a leading part of this industry to being pathetic in a couple decades. China getting better doesn't improve things here at all (in fact europe so far is getting fucked way harder because the usa at least managed to move from industrials to tech where china still lags a bit, while europe didn't).Also, i'd much rather work at an american company like I do at the moment than at a chinese or east asian company in general where westerners get treated like second class citizens every time. Chinks will never see you as their peer unless you are able to integrate into their hivemind at an identical level to a native chinese.
>>108674691The electrons almost certainly got looped back into the power grid. Possibly dissipated as heat.
>>108684874The datacenters are being canceled because they can't procure hardware due to the shortages. Are you retarded by chance?
