Opinions?
>>108671778thanks but i'm sticking with ublock origin
Firefox's biggest problem is its memory leaks, not this. We already have uBO.
>>108671778I already installed ubo though. Isn't that the best one?
>>108671778Jealous troonfox users are seething about it on R*dd*t kek
point of this when I already use ublock?
>>108671796What's with the Firefox memory leak posts on /g/? I've been using this browser since like 2018 and never had a memory leak on with it.>>108671800It is, but this one will be decent for normies that cannot into addons ig.
>>108671809jealous because their browser of choice has a new feature..?
>>108671778Also a new Kit pop-up that comes with it.
>>108671793>>108671796>>108671800>>108671811ublock kills performance a native code adblocker is obviously the correct choice
>>108671778fake because mozilla is a google whore
>>108671813>never had a memory leak on with it.You definitely have. You just don't know how to check for it and it hasn't impacted you.
>>108671832ublock literally makes it faster because it blocks bloated tracking webslop adware
>>108671868the process of blocking content on pages is not free, even uBlock has an option to disable (generic) cosmetic filtering as it can be expensive on slower machines
>>108671868and brave's adblock makes it even faster because it's not written in javascript
>>108671850if you're being slightly serious, this is tracked in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2013888 and you can view the commit history of this feature at https://github.com/mozilla-firefox/firefox/commits/main/toolkit/components/content-classifier as well as the code at https://github.com/mozilla-firefox/firefox/tree/main/toolkit/components/content-classifier
>>108671885>it can be expensive on slower machinesIt's an issue on laptops and phones too, since it drains even more battery on top of FF being unoptimized compared to Chromium.>>108671898Yeah, JavaScript is dogshit.
IMPORTANT QUESTION; Does this mean that they will eventually phase out MV2 and kill off uBO? It seems that they're doing this to appease a lot of people so they stop using uBO and eventually Mozilla kills off MV2.
>>108671927They're obviously going to get rid of MV2, but you can still use uBlock Origin Lite if you don't want to use the integrated adblocker for whatever reason.
>>108671927Gorhill is kinda autistic like Stallman, he refuses to improve uBO Lite and add custom filtering even though MV3's limitations have been relaxed.
does brave like this? i understand that they're normally opposed to open source contributions and presumably mozilla will be wanting to contribute
>>108672013Brave's CEO is secretly a furry and wants Kit's non-binary pussy. I'm sure he's fine with it.
>>108671813
>>108672098stop posting the windows shit, post the firefox task manager insteadabout:processes
about:processes
>>108671796>memory leaksSounds like a you problem. Make a fresh profile and isolate the source.
He won.
>>108672098>296seek help
>>108672260This dude looks like that one blind balkan singer forgot his name ffs
>>108671778Thanks, but I'm sticking with Ublock Origin by Gorhill.
>>108671832This is the sad truth I had to face recently. Turns out the firefox memory hog was caused by ubO all along, unironically
>>108672098If you are opening thatmany tabs, you really ought to disable fission.
>>108671813>and never had a memory leak on with it.>since 2018Well there's your reason. You just haven't noticed.During the good ol' Win XP days, Firefox was notorious for memory leaks.
>>108671778NignignigggggOPhttps://shivankaul.com/blog/firefox-bundles-adblock-rust
>>108671832Still works for me, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>>108671948unlike chrome, firefox ported the adblocking api to mv3. full ubo is possible for firefox's mv3.https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-manifest-v3-adblockers/>Google began phasing out Manifest V2 last year and plans to end support for extensions built on it by mid-2025. That change has real consequences: Chrome users are already losing access to uBlock Origin, one of the most popular ad blockers, because it relies on a Manifest V2 feature called blockingWebRequest.>Google’s approach replaces blockingWebRequest with declarativeNetRequest, which limits how extensions can filter content. Since APIs define what extensions can and can’t do inside a browser, restricting certain APIs can limit what types of extensions are possible.>Firefox, however, will continue supporting both blockingWebRequest and declarativeNetRequest — giving developers more flexibility and keeping powerful privacy tools available to users.
>>108672342I wonder if ungoogled chromium could use Firefox's implementation of MV3.There was some talk of them possibly supporting Brave's ad-blocker. Not sure how that went. uBlock Origin still running on the latest version for me when I think it was meant to die last year if nothing changed.
>>108671800>>108671811From Waterfox's github issue (they were doing their own implementation then saw Mozilla do the same and went with Mozilla's implementation):https://github.com/BrowserWorks/waterfox/issues/4182>This is the important bit, as one advantage is performance (albeit there may be negligible differences in real life) - WebExtensions use the webRequest API, which only sees requests that pass through Gecko's network layer. Resources served from internal caches are completely invisible to extensions. Because the blocker uses native nsIContentPolicy integration, it sees every load regardless of cache state.>There are a few other advantages worth noting: The engine deserialises from an on disk cache synchronously at startup, so it's ready before the first request arrives, there's no race window where ads slip through while an extension is still initialising, it runs in-process with direct Rust FFI calls, so there's none of the IPC overhead you get with WebExtension content scripts talking to a background page and because it can modify response headers directly, CSP injection works properly, which the webRequest API doesn't permit under Manifest V3.
>>108672384no, ungoogled chromium is a few one-line patches. totally out of scope for them.
>>108672307They shut down the nuclear power plant quite a few years back, so that shouldn't be an issue
>>108672261That's why I'm here
>>108671832>a native codeWhat does that mean?
>>108671796Literally just install auto tab discard
>>108671778I think this is basically it for the Brave Browser if true. Why would I run brave spyware if I can just enable Brave adblock in a decent browser?
>>108671826jealous beacuse they have spent the last 10 years they have been pushing that Brenden Eich is a chud who deserves NO JUSTIF NO PEAF in public, and brave and every project he manages needs to be closed down and him arrested. This goes back to the first release of brave that had troonfox users trying to ddos the servers it was hosted on. Years later Mozilla just admits that it lost the war and people would rather use brave with adblock than it, this is effectively Mozilla raising the white flag and admitting Eich was right all along, and the die-hard supporters are being assblasted like never before over it.
I'll stick to unblock origin so it's a worthless feature for me
>>108673421>unblockublock, fucking autocorrect
>>10867177890% of ads and trackers are already blocked by my PiHole. The shit that would make it through gets blocked by UBO. Definitely feel indiffierent to that.>tfw switched to FF from Chrome before the MV3 rollout because fuck Jewgle
>>108672307>tabsif task manager is showing 300 firefox instances, I think that means he has that many windows open, so most likely waaaaay more than 300 tabs
>furry communist web browser ships gay faggot adblockerWoah :O
Disabled uBlock Origin and set the config in the OP to true, and I see a bunch of ads now, seems to block some stuff including YouTube mid-video ads, but otherwise it's fucking trash. Also a bunch of people mentioned uBlock Origin Lite, is that really a thing? Can't find it through add-ons search.
>>108673853Meds
>>108672842heya hoya
>>108673233why are you upset?
>>108673668I had three windows open. Lots of tabs sure, but not a lot of windows
>>108671796last time i had a firefox ram leak problem was back in 2015, that made me go to chrome
>>108671778wot?
[angry gorhill noises]
Blocking adds by default is going to ruin a lot of things.We need non-adblocking retards to keep feeding the sites and services.
>>108671813I heard there is or was a memory leak in Firefox's accessibility features, but I've never noticed it myself.
>>108671778As long as I can turn it off I don't care. uBO is so much more powerful that it's not even funny.
>>108671778Sounds fine to me. Brave is the best phone browser, sorry guys. It's way faster than firefox and plays jewtube in the background, even with the screen off. I prefer firefox on desktop though. Brave's adblock is breddy alright, I don't have any hard data on it vs ubo but it seems to do good enough.
>>108673219You can just install the real version of uBlock Origin on Firefox...
Does Brave adblock deal 99% of the time just fine with youtube and twitch ads?Those are the primary sources of pain for me if I don't have uBlock Origin around. I never want to deal with youtube ads, and youtube has been very fucking aggressive at pushing ads and fucking with ad blockers. I'm not switching to anything less effective, I don't care it has better performance given I have a machine that can deal with it.
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>>108671778>firefox team finally made a good decision
>>108672098>>108672136It's about:memory dumbass, not about:processes
>>108674308>36th post in an ongoing series>but we are totally not biased!
>>108671778Unneeded bloat when we have ubo. I'd rather they focus on fixing the browser, making it more efficient/less memory-intensive and stop fucking with privacy.
>>108675184does ublock work on twitch now? last i checked you needed a userscript
>>108675470if it doesn't then i can't understand how i haven't seen an advertisement there in years.
I used Firefox for a looooong time. But the iPhone app is dogshit. Brave has free adfiltering everywhere and it takes no setup. The iPhone app is also just better in general. Yes I am using chrome hahah whatever. I use what works.
>>108671778it's a win, mostly because built in blocker is more trust worthy (as it won't steal and sell ur data) than third party one
>>108675470It should. At least I have no userscripts and if I disable uBlock origin it'll show twitch ads, and if I enable it they're gone.
>>108675568>I used Firefox for a looooong time. But the iPhone app is dogshit. Brave has free adfiltering everywhere and it takes no setup. The iPhone app is also just better in general. Yes I am using chrome hahah whatever. I use what works.Mozilla anything on Apple anything is misery.Firefox on macOS doesn't know what to do with framerate so you have to actually manually set something equivalent to multiple times what your screen is capable of rendering, or you get a lot of frameskipping and smooth scrolling is absolutely terrible.
hopefully it will also come to the iOS browseri dont even use iOS but Firefox because so bad on it is one of several reasons why I'd never switch to an iPhone
why not use brave right away?firefox is slow as shit anyway
>>108675771safari is goated retard
>>108675883But i want a browser that sync across all my devices, included non-Apple ones.Safari is indeed goated tho, best non bs browser for sure
>>108675959>Safari is indeed goatedlmfao the absolute state of nu-/g/
>>108675980>E2EE Sync>Supports extensions on every device>Best battery life for macOS>Private>No bloat>Not chromium, yet manages to be fast and tender websites properly (unlike Gecko)Cope and seethe wagie, just say that you don't make enough for apple products
>>108671800Native is more optimized
>>108672842Something that you don't need an extension for, it runs directly into the browser.Extensions run using the browser's interpreter, it reads the extension's code, it then runs it on the tabs you have open.All of this does not happen if it's implemented directly into the browser.>>108674061kek
>>108672098now open 300 tabs in chrome
>>108671778Pretty cool, I've been pretty jaded with Mozilla and Firefox, they went off the deep end with some pretty batshit insane decisions for their brand like abandoning their biggest social media (X) in favour of BlueSky that's now dead, just because X is owned by a bad person billionaire (as opposed to YouTube,... and Mozilla's default search engine sponsor, and their LinkedIn account by Microsoft, and uh.. IG account by Meta's Zuccboy, all good people of course.), showing they've been infiltrated by biased people who prioritize flavour of the month politics over long term project health, the performance regressions, their conflict with Gorhill causing uBO Lite to get removed from Mozilla store, the issues with terms of service removing privacy promises, the problems with AI stuff getting added and causing performance regressions, the steady drop in user numbers. It's not looking good. Hopefully the people in charge start cleaning up the mess, removing the bad faith actors from the company and fixing Firefox/Mozilla's reputation step by step, embracing taking it to the man by adding support for Brave's secure and regularly maintained rust-based adblock is pretty nice. I just hope it doesn't mean they plan to get rid of MV2 and uBO support.
This os great, you dont have to ruin your fingerprint with extensions now and tor can have it too.
>>108674327>We need non-adblocking retards to keep feeding the sites and services.yeah shlomo, they're called non-firefox users and there's only 99.9% of themso fuck off
>>108671827i hate furries but kit a qt
Does Brave's adblock work on youtube ads?
firefox has went down the shitter, am going back to chrome, at least I have a better engine then
>>108676938It does but breaks more ofthen than uBO, which is odd, as far as I know Brave's Ad-Block uses uBO filterlists.
>>108672098>296 processes doing unspecified web task>memory leakyou don't know what that word means, retard.
>>108671778I no longer use adblock.It is a good way to keep track of where society is at, to see ads.
>>108675314about:process shows memory breakdown by process as well. about:memory is more for drilling down.
>>108671778>Load about:config in the Firefox address bar.>Search for privacy.trackingprotection.content.protection.enabled>Set the value to True with a click on the toggle on its right.>Search for privacy.trackingprotection.content.protection.test_list_urls.>Paste https://easylist.to/easylist/easylist.txt|https://easylist.to/easylist/easyprivacy.txt as the value.>Restart Firefoxlooks like it's an embedded ublock because it apparently accepts easylist filtershttps://chipp.in/uncategorized/how-to-enable-firefoxs-secret-ad-blocker/
>>108677169>embedded ublockThat's literally what it is, some uBO people also work on Brave's ad-blocker. You can add as many custom filterlists as you want.
>>108675313Why the long face?
>>108676000>best on iToddler device
Firefox is starting to look like a good option again, but I'm still nervous about all of the privacy policy changes.
>>108677757>I'm still nervous about all of the privacy policy changes.Yeah, better stay on chrome.
>>108671778i really have to fork firefox, i keep forgetting it..how is it worse with every single update
>>108671885as opposed to not having ubo and letting youtube and entire internet bombard me with minute long ads? fuck off you retarded nigger
>>108674308>75%he moved the weight into the gpu process lolle shill lion shills btfo
>>108671793sippybippy>>108671778>incest between (((brendan eich)))'s childrengross
>>108671778Opinion:BasedTrannyfox bundling a high performance kike block engine is a plus.
brave shills on suicide watch
>>108674308>rust basedcia honeypot
>>108680555*mossad
>>108676000Safari got deprecated by Orion though
>>108671813every other update has issues especially with YouTube
>>108676857well they're nonbinary so
>>108681263>>108680555Does not matter. It was all done already, you will never find the backdoors baked in the compiler. 3-letter affiliated people might have left, or can leave. It changes nothing. All major languages are the exact same. Most open source software is like that, the overwhelming majority of it.
>>108671778Building your content blocker into the browser is a smart idea and doesn’t rely on a web store>>108671811Mozilla will probably stop suppprting manifest v2 extensions eventually. The rust based blocker that brave uses is made in tandem with the ubo team so I expect that they’re aiming for full parity and then Firefox will implement it. Actually I think as far as ad blocking goes it already is on the same level, ubo just has the better element zapper
One of uBO features that I've found useful is the inline script tag filters, afaik it's not supported in Chromium browsers. Does Brave's adblock engine support this?https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Inline-script-tag-filtering
>>108682522is that any different from this
>>108682542Is it able to target specific script tags? With uBO, you can target specific script tags (instead of blocking all of them). So you can block problematic script tag while still allowing the other useful script on the page.
>>108682636seems like it
>>108681960manifest v2/v3 itself is just a change to the manifest.json file. what makes it special is that at the same time google decided to remove support for some extension apis that were useful to adblockers. mozilla didn't remove support for those apis and still supports them in manifest v3, and likely will indefinitely.
>>108682815>and likely will indefinitelyuntil jewgle starts tightening their finances
>>108682683That's not it, I'm talking about filtering script based on certain string/keyword, something like example.com##^script:has-text(...)Seems like it's still not supportedhttps://github.com/brave/adblock-rust/issues/4Btw this page has list of uBO features currently not supported by Brave adblockerhttps://github.com/brave/adblock-rust/issues/1
>>108671778UBO is and will likely forever be king of adblock until someone decides to make an opensource enduser controlled perceptual adblock.
>>108681960The main reason to use ublock is to block 3rd party websites individually, and also block frames/scripts from them. Does the brave adblocker allow you to do that as easily as ublock?
No cosmetic filteringDROPPED
>>108678525lmao>>108675583saar
>>108685424I guess there’s only so much you can expect with Google as the default search engine, but it’s still incomplete I’m sure
>>108675314>about:memoryneat, finally a way to check how much the fox eats
>>108672296Upgrade to a better extension
>>108686909russian botnet
