It's not, but you'll be paying for it in bailouts soon all the same, lol.

>>108676972
>How is this sustainable?
i am wondering the same thing, imagine letting Musk live in your head rent free for years and and years

>>108676972
what makes you think sustainability is a metric?

>>108676980
aaaaand #RÖÖÖKT

>>108677000
word twisting christ killer

>>108677050
wasn't killing Jesus le good because he took our sins or some shit, christcuck?
oh and John 4:22, kikeslave

>>108677072
usecase for being forgiven of your sins?

>>108676972
There is very little sustainable in any of Musks nonsense. The only thing that nominally earns money - Spacelink - gets worse the more users it has and is unfortunately prone to gravity. As is the remainder of Elons House of Cards.

>>108676972
>How is this sustainable?
it's sustainable but not for too many quarters. they can deal with the losses (or offset them against something else), it's whether or not share holders will tolerate it. probably not. musk ran out of magic promises and schizo mdma visions of the future that turn into turds, and trying to get a party with a pedo, and being rejected by that pedo.. didn't help tesla or musk. media seems to have stopped shilling this faggot as much as they used to.

>>108676972
This could result in a lot of cost cutting.
How relevant is it, that their cars are made fully in a country with high labour costs?
Teslas always seemed like good value.
I hope their semi-truck goes well.

Maybe they ignore customer feedback too much?

>>108677072
>john 4:22
where jesus (judean) argues with a samaritan (israelite from jacob) at jacob's well ("our father's well") about the proper place of worship and then immediately says in 4:23 that pharisees (jews) are wrong about worshiping in jerusalem? you know the bible is a continuous story and not a collection of random phrases, right?

>>108677555
>Teslas always seemed like good value.
they're cheap to make and the insides are basic as fuck. everything is plastic shit. you'll find a better interior in a 30yo Mazda or those Toyota hybrids than what is produced by tesla. you'll also be lucky if your tesla has panels that evenly line up with each other. they've got the making of the car right but they take too many shortcuts to get there. if they built ICE cars they'd be having recalls every day. they're thankful they're just building oversized toy cars with electric motors with less complexity.

>>108677614
Yes. That allows them to offer a large batterie at low cost in their cars. At least that how it used to be.

BYD will eat their lunch

>>108676972
/g/ - /biz/

>>108677642
>chinese government funded and partially owned
>floods market with low quality trash
>every trash car sold gets tax credit deductable paid back to byd
>chinese government is literally paying byd to sell cars
cringe, xiang lee woo.

nascent industry CEOs are some of the dumbest retards to ever walk the planet. i can't wait until this faggot retard loses everything and hangs himself.

>>108677695
if they're so awful why are they not allowed to compete on the fair and open us market

>>108676972
Cars?
Get with the times grandpa.
Tesla makes robots now.

>>108677718
>robots
Good that Elon finally found a branch China couldn't possibly compete in.

>>108677708
Don't bother.
You'll get a circular argument
>100% tariff because muh chink cars are unsafe
> there is no proof they are unsafe because the 100% tariff makes it unfeasible to import and get tested by the nhtsa
>but must have the tariff however because they are unsafe

>>108677695
>>low quality trash
They're the best ev there is and would be 3x cheaper and raping the world market if it weren't for taxes and protectionism

Banks are allowed to lend 3-5x their total owned capital (not even liquid cash) knowing full well they can make double on every dollar that’s lent out, even if it’s unsustainable.
This is why so many companies are funded off of investors taking out loans then trying to get double their money back in less then a year via enshittification policies.
If banks were only allowed to lend out twice their current assets maximum, large parts of the economy would collapse.

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>>108677695
>low quality trash
*Humbling, high quality products

>>108677907
Jim Farley is a commie faggot like all current (((american))) ceos

>>108676972
as long as the taxpayer foots the bill it is lol

>>108676972
>Gets 700 billion from a company that makes no money.
No refunds.

>>108678000
>communist ceos
your brain needs to be studied

>>108677695
AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAAH
https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a64254591/tesla-cybertruck-recall-2025-detaching-body-panel/

>>108677907
>A dinosaur company CEO that refuses to evolve and instead price gouge lauds a competitor.
This happened when Japan took the market too. They're going to say it's an administration issue and get admins to go through more Six Sigma training rather than admit it's because they're after short term profitability for shareholders.
Invest in technology and evolve, retard. It was clear what the problem was in the 70s with throwaway cars and propaganda against anti-lock brakes.

>>108678031
>sees globalist ceos praising COMMUNIST china
>chinese ceos themselves are CCP members 99% of times
But yeah I'm sure that if a leftist tranny like you says they're not communists they aren't

>>108678106
THERES A RED
UNDER EVERY BED

he's probably going to merge spacex and tesla in a couple of years to keep this going, hoping that the robots take off.

>>108678106
>glorious communist China
>growing non-stop, already dominating most industries
>gay ass capitalist West and Japan
>desperately holding on to scraps while their country goes to shit

Elon knows he is working on borrowed time and is trying to diversify hard before the stock plummets

Who knew alienating the core demographic interested in electrical cars would result in the electrical car company struggling?

>>108677555
They are still selling Toyota Corolla numbers on their Model Y. And at the least RAV4 numbers on their 3. Both of these have significantly higher margins than whatever they are competing with, and they have been doing that for years by this point
That is plenty of money.

But they got the option between investing, or risk getting leapfrogged by the Chinese if there are significant battery advancements to be made. And so far there has been massive gains due economy of scale on building cell packs.
So its not a choice. If they don't do anything, they will eventually turn into GM or Ford, except GM or Ford with only 2 viable car models is pretty sketchy.

>>108677695
>floods market with low quality trash
By this point there are several parts of Stellantis selling cars where the entire battery stack of CATL or BYD.
What is more interesting is that they are flooding their home market with low quality trash, and by proxy exporting it to nearby countries in SEA, but warranty laws in the EU and USA means they can't do that, which means you get medium quality trash or whatever the young rich nepokids pay money for.

>>108677343
Thankfully, for him, Falcon 9's are cheap enough that worst cause scenario he could sustain all the satellites in the network indefinitely and still make a profit. The question is whether the profit will be enough to cover for the continuously exploding Starship and his AI shenanigans.

>>108677592
>um actually, [pilpul]
alright shabbos goy

>>108678106
Hi Elon

>>108676972
You will pay for it goyim, Mr. Musk needs another 100 billion bonus package this quarter for all his hard work

>>108676972
Same way the internet has been during the dotcom bubble

>>108676972
Is everyone just boycotting Elon?
The cars are really good now apparently (not my price range though)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwnJzP0TlCk

>>108678194
They were never profitable until the alienation occured. When he aligned with the "right" he had a brief period of profitability, then he decided to push for mass migration via H1Bs because he thought MAGA could just be pushed around just like Trump thought the same.
Pride before the fall.

>>108677907
they steal technology, thanks to simpatizers or those who would sell own mother for cash. if you used xiaomi phones, theyve got one of the most terrible software, software is a better marker

>>108678045
nice link, why schizo laughing though. wounder why Tesla doesnt use robot welding, it is probably cheaper than the glue.

>>108677548
Shareholders are mostly retard retail.

>>108679127
Ameriturds are in for a very rude awakening that if somebody makes all the stuff they indeed get good at making it, and then they start to improve it.
The tariff is already 100%. It will keep raising so you can keep living in your delusion of grandeur

>>108679165
tesla has around a 55/45 institutional+insider/retail split
for comparison
google is 65/35
microsoft is 75/25
netflix is 85/15

>>108677758
>unsustainable
>describes something sustainable

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>>108678342
>>108677592
>>108677072
>>108677050

>>108679233
>infinite growth is sustainable

>>108676972
What does all of this gibberish and gobbledygook mean in plain English?

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>>108676972
Elonbros, I am superexcited for the Roadster reveal next month!

>>108679259
you're brown

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>>108679864

Elon betrayed Trump and Americans. Fuck him.

>>108680069
Very jesuspilled picture my brother in Christ :)

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>>108680125
>betrayed
Damn, does king kike know about this? You better phone the whitehouse and tell him just to be safe

>>108676998
>ignores the subject, devolves into damage control
Go take a selfie in front of a train, street shitter.

>>108679282
Growth measured in a unit designed to represent less and less? Yes

>>108678143
usa is going communist in the next 1-2 presidential elections
it's our roman republic -> empire moment, locked in by the unfathomable corruption of orange man and his henchmen

>>108679334
tesla doesn't make any money on its cars but it's investing $25 billion in making more cars

>>108677592
lmao fucking retard.
>pharisess (jews)
HAHAHAHA
>>108677072
100%

>>108684588
...pharisees weren't jews?

>>108677907
I do not understand stands this. Is there not one fucking person in the auto industry using there fucking brain? EV's are the future even if car faggots don't like it. Seriously purely based on how easy and simple EV's are (as far as the user experience) its going to be adopted. There is a fucking reason apple devices are so damn popular.

>>108684592
they were jews but so were everyone else in the fucking bible. Oh and the fact that Jesus himself was a fuckin pharisees so was paul they were fucking rabbi. Its just retarded. christians are retarded af at least the ecrusader ones. No one IRL believes jews are responsible. NO ONE and believe me if leftists actually understood the bible they'd completely agree that it is zionist.

>>108684597
isn't the user experience characterized by low range and long charge times for the foreseeable future?

>>108684608
you're ignorant on purpose

>>108684611
Either one people will eventually realize that they do not need long range cars because the country doesn't fucking take road trips that often anymore. Everyone just takes a uber or drives to the airport. Its funny to because taking a taxi/uber to the airport was kinda seen as a luxury back in the 90s for instance now anyone can just take one for like $50/100 maybe less. Also charge time is irrelevant when everyone is charging at home. In the next 10yrs in new home builds I would bet that they will have hook ups for easy fast charging. Once shit becomes extremely easy and normies use it will be over for gas cars. Zoomers already hate driving so do many millennials. Its absolutely retarded these companies can't pull there heads out of their ass.

>>108684625
no, I am ex-christian as well so none of your bullshit is going to convince me. Don't (you) me anymore faggot

>>108678249
No anon you don't understand, he'll send people to Mars and then money will appear out of nowhere.

>buying American anything in 2026
Anyone really shocked? I have American (Firestone) tires and they're already worn at 30k miles.

>>108684611
At this point you can get a high end car with 110kwh+ battery that can do 700km+.

But that in itself is dishonest. The cheap cars seems to be in the 350-400 range now, which is too low for winter driving. And the cargo vans do even worse where they seem capped at 300km due chassis problems and the problems with C1(>3500kg) vs B class(<3500kg) driver classes.... due battery weight and vehicle cost.
So we are still waiting for that small battery leap.

>>108684597
>can't afford new car
>can't afford battery replacement for used car
Most of the people here are driving 20 year old cars

>>108677555
>Maybe they ignore customer feedback too much?
the brand is damaged because musk is not liked by the general public. they built a brand around one man and that man is considered a bit of a dick by the average man. even though most people were never going to buy a tesla, the bad brand effect affects those who would have bought a tesla. are you going to buy a chud-car or a nazi-mobile or whatever else barren women might screech at random people in sueprmarket car parks?

>>108684597
Hybrids are going to be the future.
Toyota style hybrid synergy drive only comes with advantages when you compare the efficiency and mechanical simplicity of an HSG to a pure gas engine and belted CVT.

Might end up being cheaper to manufacture as current drivetrains are brutally complex.

As of right now the only people really against them are retards who think replacing their CVT at 50k miles is manly.

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>>108677907
>ussr has more people, stem focused, no advertising/landlords, forces everyone to work, and is constantly flipping new countries red. its over
>japan is about to overtake us with their gadgets, semiconductors, cars and high discipline. its over

is it genuinely over this time and if not, what do we not get about china?

>>108677907
so whats the ford ceo's suggestion on how to catch up to China instead of pushing more shitty overpriced trucks out? More outsourcing?

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>>108679625
I wonder how many providers of $50,000-$250,000 interest free loans to Elon Inc. died already. The wisdom of paying Musk in advance, for anything, is debatable tbqh.

>tesla going bankrupt in 2 weeks
Thats the entire narrative for the last 10+ years of the western media

>>108684597
>I do not understand stands this. Is there not one fucking person in the auto industry using there fucking brain?
It does seem weird but you get that a lot with big companies, not just in the car industry.
Beyond a certain size they lose all ability to innovate.

Examples include Kodak when digital photography was invented.
They basically just accepted death and rolled over.
Fuji Film made some effort to switch to digital at least but meh.

It's just how things go: when there is a big shift in technology small new companies jump on it while large old companies wait around doing nothing until it's too late.

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If you trust the story, there is something wrong with you

>>108685436
>musk is not liked by the general public.
It's Trump who isn't liked by the general public, especially outside the USA.
Most people either like Musk or don't really have an opinion.
Sure there are also many people who think he is a scam artist, me included, but they are a minority.

It was very shortsighted of Musk to openly ally himself to MAGA.
Now Trump and Musk are seen as one and the same and go down in popularity together.

>>108685436
You're living in a bubble

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>>108685991
No, Musk is genuinely pretty disliked tbqh.

>>108686024
political propaganda realism is only applicable to the extremist of that wing

>>108685841
I'm surprised cybertruck came out and the roadster still has not.

>>108684643
He seems to have abandoned the whole Mars thing, to the point even the NASA people that want to get their mojo back by going back to the moon are questioning whether the Starship is worth it.

>>108676972
OP it is sustainable because the Chinese Gigafactory is making 80% of the components now and they are being shipped to Texas and assembled there at a tax exempt factory. Tesla is one of the few automotive manufacturers allowed to sell Chinese made cars in America.

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>>108684608
>No one IRL believes jews are responsible
t. seething cursed jew

>>108677592
You're wasting your time on these people. Just tell them that without faith in the Lord Jesus Christ they're bound for hell fire. They will never listen to you.

I've been saved since I was 19 and I'm about to round the corner into my 40s. No one takes it seriously. I was moved in the Spirit to witness to someone and they still denied. This guy said that he didn't want his girlfriend to be upset because she practices witchcraft and doesn't want anything related to Christianity in their home.

We've been in the end times since Christ was crucified. All you can do is tell them the basics. Without faith in Jesus Christ they can't reach the Father and they will go to hell. Salvation is a free gift and they spit on it. God knows who will accept Him and who won't. Let the Spirit guide you to the people you need to witness to.

>>108684642
>no, I am ex-christian as well so none of your bullshit is going to convince me. Don't (you) me anymore faggot

So because you're an ex-christian that makes you an authority on the bible?

I think if you actually understood scripture you wouldn't call it Zionist. Jesus rebuked the scribes and the Pharisees for their hypocrisy. The Pharisees held the "tradition of the elders" (Talmud) in higher regard than the word of God (scripture) and used it to find loopholes in the law. The Saducees, Essenes, and other groups were lost to the sands of time. Now only the viewpoint of the Pharisees survives and the Talmud is more abominable than ever.

Jesus told them that even though they're of Abraham's bloodline, they're spiritually the children of the devil. That's why the Jews had Jesus crucified. He exposed the hypocrisy of the authorities of the time.

You turned your back on the faith and on God. I once did the same. God still loves you. Jesus still loves you. But you don't understand scripture at all. I think you're angry at something that happened in the past and you're projecting it onto the faith. Grab a King James Version and read some scripture. Pray and ask God to help you. Come back to the faith. Come back to the truth. This world has nothing for you and all you will find is misery and hypocrisy in it.

>>108676972
people have pumped billions into tesla stocks, even countries and pension funds etc. so they can't let it fail