>using rufus instead of ventoy
not reading or watching anything more than this

>>108677162
This guy is such snake oil of a person and a youtuber.
Dude made a Windows 10 video shitting on security and people that use it, just to make a fucking apology video after getting shit talked.
People that cannot stand their ground should not be listened to, fucking pathetic pussy.

Old people are NOT important and are NOT worth listening to.

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>>108677164
It's for Windows user you dumdum

>>108677181
>dude assumes a thing
>checks out he was wrong
>dude corrects the record
Nothing wrong with that.
>>108677194
go back to talking with chatGPT weirdo.

>>108677164
enjoy your backdoor retarded nigger
https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795

>>108677162
>shills his useless utility software
>recommends mint in 2026
>shills himself on /g/
this thread sucks

>>108677162
Can anyone explain this segmentation to me? Is it a holdover from 10-15 years ago that there was a genuine distinction between distro's capabilities?
>office workers
I can install libre office and thunderbird just as well on Cachy as I could on mint. Haven't tried bazzite as it's offered nothing new besides "newness" and mindshare. To top it off, do they not understand that there are things like erp software that is windows only?

>>108677164
>>108677283
Shouldn't you be in the bed right now. You need to go back to factory tomorrow Ping Pong.

>>108677286
Again. It's for normie windows users switching to linux for first time. Why so retarded?

>>108677162
sorry, i'm sticking with fedora
*tips fedora and does a 360 before walking away*

>>108677162
>CachyOS for gamers
>Void Linux for power users
>Debian for office workers

>>108677310
So we have to spook them into believing that with linux if they want to either play a game or open a .csv they need to switch between multiple operating systems?

>>108677164
ventoy is niggerware

>>108677162
>Gentoo for gamers
>Gentoo for power users
>Gentoo for office workers

>>108677310
The video is clickbait. Ubuntu is the only distro that matters for normies.

>>108677392
No we want them to have basic things for the start with emphasis on whats the main purpose of said OS is and they go from there (with chatGPT help).

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>>108677424
Man, fuck Ubuntu.

>>108677162
For once I agree with him wholeheartedly

>>108677164
Ventoy might contain backdoors or other malicious code:

The author(s?) long refused to react on questions about the source code for the precompiled code inside their git repository.
They long refused to react on questions about the security risks.
When an answer was finally given, it boiled down to a simple "There is no reason to assume that we would have placed malware inside."
Again after a really long time the authors finally mentioned what other source code they used to generate some−but not all−of the pre-compiled code. They did not mention the build methods and refused to prove that this really was the used source code.
The real identities of the authors is unknown.

>>108677249
>I would do it myself, but unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with the Ventoy build process to actually do it.
Kek

>>108677457
My negro in christ, the Cachy installer asks you if you want to install cups and explains what it is, same with libre office.
I'll admit that mint doesn't install wine/proton by default but I think steam does it by now.

>>108677162
Atomic distro for gaming is retarded and for people that don't know how to use computers.

>>108677310
Gentoo isn't for normalfaggot people which the majority of Titus's audience are

>>108677162
>Bazzite for gamers
>CachyOS for power users
>Linux Mint for office workers

meanwhile I can just use Ubuntu 26.04 for all of this and go on with my life

>>108677540
>Atomic distro for gaming is retarded and for people that don't know how to use computers
The same people who updoot their OS and DNA through the killshot™ mRNA vaccines, the same retards who subscribe their life away like the good goyslop cattle they are? I'm surprised some reverse engineers still stick around and provide actual solutions to the needles obstacles corpokikes create all in the name of New Normal progress

>>108677567
imagine breathing air like all the normie cattle do, fuck em anon, you're right!

>>108677162
>arch/fedora for power users
>ubuntu/pop_os for everyone else

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>Arch for geymen
>macOS for getting shit done

Another thread and another day I confirm I will never use troonix, thanks anons.

>>108677653
>crApple is never mentioned anywhere
>Has to brute force spam it anyway

>>108677164
it's slow as molasses

>>108677162
Chris is fucking retarded. Just look at his stream, he makes videos and articles by using AI inside of visual studio code to write it for him and vibe codes all his "programs" and the rest is stolen by random viewers that find shit for him and do it for him. Guy is literally on the lower end of the IQ pole, he's moreso inspiring to me by the fact that someone as simple as him can end up in a happy relationship, have offsprings, have a succesful career and have a succesful youtube channel. You can be a retard and achieve all those things. You just have to try and not be lazy or perfectionist.

>>108677611
/thread

>>108677703
yep, we are too smart for our own good, to not give a fuck about society and be lazy smartasses

>>108677311
based King of Pop

>>108677162
>Bazzite
Understandable, I don't like it but it works for most.
>CachyOS for power users
I'd argue it extends to the former and the latter. Cachy has the best integration and implementation of KDE Plasma that I've used. Kubuntu, Fedora KDE, etc, have a range of issues that lead to krashes and a poor experience overall.
>Linux Mint
Too outdated for me but I get it.

>>108677703
>>108677715
>we are too smart for our own good
But are you really? You both sound to me like total low iq loooosers.

>>108677763
>>Linux Mint
>Too outdated for me but I get it.
That's why it for 'office use' aka just werks.

This guy is a fraud btw

>>108677162
I thought cachyos was already a gaymer distro? What bazzite does that cachyos doesn't? It has all the wine shit preinstalled?

>>108677164
last time i read about it on their github there are lots of blobs in the code that they don't know what it does... Yeah... i'm not touching that shit.

I'm experiencing highly elevated levels of distro fatigue lately
just use fucking Arch
or Ubuntu if you can't be bothered holy shit

>>108677386
>>108677410
>>108677162
>https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/2795
>CachyOS for gamers
>Gentoo for POWER users
>Fedora for office workers

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>>108677162
>Linux Mint for office workers
No, fuck off. I'll even take Fedora over that shit.

>>108677162
>Bazzite
>Cachy
>Mint
>YOU WILL USE SYSTEMD. YOU WILL USE WAYLAND. YOU WILL USE GNOME AND YOU WILL LIKE IT FAGGOTCHUDS YOU USE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO USE
LOL LMAO LMFAO ROFLMAO ROFLMFAO
Naw I think I'll stick to real Linux (aka Void)

>>108677424
All my Linux-based customers use red hat

>Fedora for gamers
>Arch for power users
>Debian for office workers

That's it. Don't use any meme derivatives, downstream forks, or independent slop that can and will be abandoned at any time. If you can't set any of those up to your own needs then Linux isn't for you and you should stick to a retard-friendly device like a smartphone.

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>>108677164
Sorry no can do

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>Proton 11 brings native wayland proton support for gayming, built in HDR, VRR smoothness
>NTSYNC to eliminate microstutter and stutter performance in general since its as native as it can get to how windows work without relying on wineserver
>DXVK/VKD3D with vulkan is usually much better than windows shitty directX on AMD cards because open source mesa is insane
>KDE has never been better in terms of VRR and features/stability feature parity with windows 11
>Wayland is actually stable now, and VRR just werks and HDR just werks along with screensharing and stuff
>Games are smoother than windows with higher FPS
>Davinci Resolve is better than adobe premiere
>GIMP with photoshop patch is good enough


So....What does windows provide now that linoox has basically just outclassed it?

>>108678904
Linux doesn't have spying (now with Copilot!)

>>108678904
Proton 11 also has reduced latency, because inherently xwayland added another layer.

Now since its running on proton with wayland natively and no layer, Its 8-10ms latency reduced. As well as just being less buggy and less chance to have stuttering/compositing problems.

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>>108677249
>>108677497
>>108678877
What the FUCK, when did this come to light? Everyone was saying to use this program, hell I loaded up all my ISO's onto a Ventoy flash drive and used it to install Linux and Windows since last year. Wtf do I do now?

>>108677164
>not using dd
NGMI

>>108679137
Ventoy MIGHT contain backdoors or other malicious code

>>108678904
>Linux matching Windows' performance
>Linux "outclassed" Windows because... it just did okay?
Linuxfags are being sane and rational as usual I see

>>108677162
>gamers
>power users
>office workers
Windows does all 3 of these things.

>>108679190
But it's Windows, so it's inherently inferior to Linux. Why? Because Linux failed to compete with Windows and now that they're filling ectra gaps and Windows gets worse it just is so SWITCH TO LINUX NOWNOWNOW WHY ARE YOU NOT SWITCHING DESPITE THE DAILY SHILL THREADS

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>>108679180

>>108679137
There's no actual proof that it does anything sketchy. I would avoid using it again in the future tho.

>>108679226
yep

>>108677249
So what does this mean? If I load up my ISO's onto a Ventoy flashdrive, and install an OS from that flash drive, that OS will be compromised and injected with a permanent backdoor and that I need to reformat and scan my filesystem afterwards?

>>108679205
if you need to be shilled linux you're an underage alphoomer that doesn't get to have an opinion
if you haven't been pissed at microsoft after they butchered 7 you're just an npc

>>108679207
Cool, we already know. Now:
-offer an alternative that doesn't waste a 64GB stick for a 4GB ISO that doesn't have blobs
-deblobbify Ventoy if you're paranoid about it. You're given a full list of the blobs, now do pull merges or fork it to deblobbify it.
Anything else is unproductive and a waste of time.

I installed CachyOS and it is painfully obvious the Indians are heavily involved in this. Everything about it just screams jeetware

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>>108679244
It means it's yet to be proven there is a backdoor but fa/g/gots will cry about backdoors without offering an alternative since they're useless tools.

If Chris truly hates Windows that much he wouldn't be living off of making a utility to fix it to get people to move to Linux. But he knows that Windows hate and Linux worship sells so he keeps biting the hand that feeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhBRJStz7w

>>108679244
it just means it has code that we literally don't know what it does, running in the background. it can be a backdoor or something else. It's a blackbox.

>>108679360
>if he didn't think windows was shit he wouldn't make a tool that exists solely because windows is shit
jeet logic

>>108677162
>Alma, Debian, Devuan
For offices
>Arch, Hyperbola, Guix, NixOS
For hobbyists
> Mint, Q4OS, OpenMandriva - Mx, Exe, Vendefoul Wolf
For regular users
> Alpine, Debian, Devuan, Freebsd, Gentoo, Guix, NixOS, OpenBSD, Slackware
For power users

>>108679185
It does outclass it doe. The frametimes and FPS are significantly better on linux and the caches with dxvk and vkd3d.

>>108679470
idk I was under the impression that if you use Linux it is now your life's goal to ensure Windows will only get worse so there won't be an alternative. Browsing this board alone is enough to reach this conclusion, no?

>>108679508
>ports DXVK amd VKD3D to Windows
>just tweaking native Windows binaries to be more Windows centric
>the bridge is gapped
what now smartass

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>>108677162
>Windows for gamers
>Windows for power users
>Windows for office workers

>>108679514
>it is now your life's goal to ensure Windows will only get worse so there won't be an alternative.
What the hell could we possibly do that's worse than what Microsoft is already doing?

>>108677164
Why do you need a fucking program to extract the contents of an iso into a fresh formatted USB drive? Are you fucking retarded?

>>108679529
games run better because windows is a piece of bloated fucking shit that's been cobbled together across three decades
the fundamental problem is windows itself

>>108677164
i trust rufus more than i trust dd

>>108679683
Because you don't know how to use dd? Rufus literally just is a GUI wrapper for dd in that mode

>>108677162
Bazzite is worse than CachyOS for gamers, I don't know why it's on the list at all.

>>108679567
>DXVK, when it works on Windows, brings the same benefits as on Linux
>meaning DirectX is the issue and it can be fixed
>but /g/ believes otherwise
Couldn't expect any tech literacy outta this board geg

>>108679700
this fucking fag.
I don't have to memorize any command, therefore i prefer rufus, is a great GUI and esy more convenient on windows.

>>108679137
Don't listen to the schizos. They're the same people who think systemd, ubuntu, fedora windows, every apple product, etc. are all backdoored and actively sending your data straight to Israel.

>>108677164
Ventoy is great, but how can I get a version of the windows ISO onto it like Rufus would configure it to force a local account and such? This seems like its only downside.

>>108677249
Based on https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/3224 I'm not overly worried. Yes it's concerning, but it's probably fine and may even be fixed in the future.

>>108679833
>meaning DirectX is the issue and it can be fixed
no, you fucking idiot, it's everything else that windows is running that's suffocating directx
if anything linux is running a slower fucking version because it has to translate directx calls to vulkan
you don't know shit, shut the fuck up you fucking clueless idiot

>>108679839
Get Balena Etcher, 100s of mb of GUI bullshit just to run the DD command, it's more your style.

>>108677162
Normal People:
>Ubuntu
>Fedora
>openSUSE
Server:
>Debian
>Ubuntu
Enterprise:
>RHEL
>SLES
"Steam Machine":
>Bazzite
>CachyOS
>SteamOS
[REDACTED]:
>Arch
>Nix

>>108679861
>They're the same people who think systemd, ubuntu, fedora windows, every apple product, etc. are all backdoored and actively sending your data straight to Israel.
can you prove they are not?

Linux mint might seem like a user friendly option. I do remember starting on it myself but what i noticed was that while it had a user interface and software that was supposed to make it easy to use it simply wasn't since you would run into issues that couldn't be easily fixed.

Linux mint (unless you go for the debian edition) also happen to be a fork of a fork which is just stupid. Debian is probably a sinking ship now though.

I honestly Found Arch Linux to be easier to use and had less problems than linux mint. At least Arch Linux has a decent wiki still where a lot of things are well documented.

As for standard Ubuntu: nobody should touch anything from them ever after the numerous malware incidents on their snap store (they seem to make stupid decisions in general and deserve to fail).

I remember installing linux mint on a computer i build for my grandmother. It seemed to work fine but then once i had already handed over the computer it just broke down for reasons that are unclear to me (she ended up going back to windows).

>>108680039
The only reason I prefer other distros over Mint is Gayland. Sure, Mint Cinnamon is alright, but I want Gayland. KDE or GNOME. I don't want another 2 years

>>108679945
You can drop DXVK under Windows in games and get both an FPS and frametime boost. Ergo, Vulkan is the real solution, not Linux.

My apologies you've filled your lack of personality with Linux and can't accept truth while resorting to childish insults as a last resort to protect your brittle ego.

>>108680087
>You can drop DXVK under Windows in games and get both an FPS and frametime boost. Ergo, Vulkan is the real solution, not Linux.
post evidence of this

>>108679794
How is it worse?
>immutable
That doesn't affect the only thing Bazzite is supposed to do: Gaming. If being immutable doesn't work for you then Bazzite isn't the distro you should be using.
>cachyos
cachy is great, yes, but that should be recommended only to advanced users. Bazzite is literally braindead easy to use which is the whole point.
For everything else there's Ubuntu or Mint, depending on which you like more.

>>108680119
I thought you were the smart and knowledgable one and already did so, given how confident you are in your beliefs?

Do it yourself, installing Windows isn't hard. It won't bite.

>>108680139
>makes a retarded claim that goes against the grain
>can't prove it
prove it or quit coping
funny thing is that what you're trying to prove here is only making windows even more worthless

>>108680000
Get medication, 100s of qualified doctors just to cure your autism, it's more your style

>>108677162
Good video desu.
In my opinion you can even simplify it even more.
>Gaming and beginners
Bazzite. Why? Because the Bazzite (or any other Universal Blue distro) are truly the only "install and use" linux distros which make them perfect for beginners. And for gamers it's ready to use ootb without needing to anything else.
>Everything else
Ubuntu. Yes, there's Mint; and yes, there's people who hate Canonical. But objectively, Ubuntu is the best "regular use" distro by a long shot, even after all of Canonical's bs.
>Bonus point: CachyOS.
ONLY if the user is a poweruser who wants to really fiddle with the latest software/packages. Objectively, any performance gain isn't significative in real usage nor in productivity. CachyOS won't give you any real advantage over Bazzite in games or Ubuntu in anything else. It's just a hobby distro, which is fine, but not needed in a "recommended list".

>>108680184
It's late and I gotta finish my gym set. Not my job to run benchmarks for seething Linuxtards only for them to fling shit at me at the end and say they were always right. Toodles!

>>108680198
yes, if you're going to claim something so retarded with the motivations of defending an operating system that has been shitting itself for years on end then you have to prove it

I'm glad I went with Bazzite, 0 issues so far but all I do is gaming, browsing and watching anime

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>>108680231
No I don't.
btw your impotent seethe won't change the fact that Windows is still over 90% of the market and no one wants to touch Linux. You'll die bitter and alone with the last thing on your screen being your constant seethe at Windows on /g/ while I'll be living a life devoid of pointless seething over shit that means nothing, like what OS people use. Can't even feel bad about (You), it's the life you chose.

>>108680280
Congrats, you're one of the few smart people who use Bazzite for what it's for, THE literaly gaming distro, and not go full retard "omg why this hyperspecialized OS doesn't do EVEYTHING I want it to do like those other distros over there!!!!!"

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>>108680285
>No I don't.
i guess that's true in your shame based society shithole, i'm expecting too much from you

>btw your impotent seethe won't change the fact that Windows is still over 90% of the market and no one wants to touch Linux.
oh, plenty of people are touching linux, more than ever and it's only accelerating

>>108680002
Let's me fix that for you
>Normalcattle NPCs
Bazzite
Pop
Fendora
Ubuntu
Cachy
>Trannies and faggots
Arch
>Fat fuck hacks who larp as intelligent technophiles
Gentroon, LFS
>Straight white men
Void, Slackware
>Retarded ape-like creatures
Devuan, Artix

Bazzite sucks, just use ultramarine
Cachyos is for normies
Linux mint sucks and has fallen behind

>>108680002
Normal People:
>Ubuntu
Server:
>Debian
>Ubuntu Server
Enterprise:
>RHEL
>SLES
Gaming:
>Bazzite
Hobbist:
>CachyOS
>Arch

>>108680364
>Bazzite sucks, just use ultramarine
They're fundamentally the same, Fedora + codecs/drivers. And in the upcoming releases they'll even share the same OGC kernel. Ultramarine is fine in concept but honestly is just managed by 7 people (degenerates also) so you'd be better using plain Fedora and invest 20 minutes adding everything Ultramarine does.
>Cachyos is for normies
Arch will never be "for normies" no matter how simplified it gets. You're misleading what a "normie" is. A normie is literally your mom, grandpa, or your lukewarm IQ next door neightboor. Which only want something to boot and work without any friction. CachyOS may work at fist, but rolling updates and maintenance are bound to fuck up something eventually.
>Linux mint sucks and has fallen behind
I agree with you with the "fallen behind" part. But it doesn't suck. It's like a well maintained old reliable car compared to a brand new electric. Both have pros and cons, but yeah the newer distros have more bells and whistles, while Mint will just turn on, work, and do absolutely nothing else.

>>108679267
New Normal affects everyone, "sir"

>>108677249
meds

>>108680122
gamers are the group most well known for preferring lower frame rates and reduced performance in favor of having trans enby mascots

>>108680331
>normies
>cachy
>straight white men
>void
>the distro famously known for being full of trannies just like nix
retard list

>>108680708
And how does that makes Bazzite worse than Cachy...?

>>108677162
>Bazzite for casual gamers
>CachyOS for hardcore gamers
>Arch for power users
>Gentoo for autists
>Void for superautists
>Fedora for programmers
>Debian for server admins
>Ubuntu for office workers
>Mint for normalfags and Windows refugees

>>108677194
I don't know your age, but you certainly aren't. Not now, not ever.

>>108680729
>lower fps isnt worse goy now eat up the tranny stink ditch and stop asking questions

>>108679160
>using slow complicated dd instead of fast time-tested cat
NGMI

>>108679190
Normal people are on Windows mate, because it just works no matter how hard the troons screech at you.

>>108680330
>still clinging onto stats representing a minority of global personal computers as proof he's winning
It's infinitely amusing just how pathetic (You) are.

>>108680330
Are you going to rope when it drops down next month, tranny? I suggest you find something else to do instead of spending your day playing linux cheerleader on the internet.

>>108677162
Buy an ad Bazzite tranny. Self-administrating atomic distros is pure mental illness.

>>108680784
Nah he's gonna cope about how this time around Valve fucked up the stats while ignoring just how unreliable Steam Hardware Survey really is. Anything but to keep up his delusions since that's all he has in life.

I love seeing little retards like these in the wild, they're so goddamn cute in how desperate they are to prove people they matter, when in reality no one could give less of a fuck what OS you use. :')

>>108677703
He's been around for a long time, and has a very popular Windows debloat/tweak tool. Pretty odd for you to be sperging out about the guy so hard. Seems like a personal grudge, or perhaps you're just a troon who hates families? I think it may be the latter, because you used the term 'offsprings' instead of children. You know, children that come from a womb? Something you'll never have lol.

>>108678904
>What does windows provide now

Device manager, Excel, OneNote, to name just three things off the top of my head. I'm sure there's others, like working on every piece of hardware, and backward compatibility that I forgot.

>>108680783
>minority of global personal computers
steam stats represent people using their personal computers for entertainment
chromebooks and apple toys are irrelevant as hardware, anything can browse the internet and use a keyboard

>>108680784
are you going to rope when oems start shipping steamos? windows has zero fucking mindshare left, it's all contrarian zoomers that never used 7 and have baby duck attachment to the garbage that 10 and 11 became

>>108680746
>gaining 2.5 fps at 0.1% min and 1.3 fps at max is a great deal!!!
>noooo you don't understand! Everyone else but me is a tranny goy faggot!

>>108680850
>windows has zero fucking mindshare left
If you put swear words in there, it'll become true! No, sorry that's just not the case. Over 92% are on Windows, that's across the board. Zoomers, millennials and boomers. The trans-furry-polycule you take your talking points from do not represent the world at large.

>>108680906
saar

>>108677162
Chris Titus is a fucking retard
Someone post the flexing picture

>>108680850
>are you going to rope when oems start shipping steamos?
No? I'll be laughing and watching the return rates. It's also a good thing if you're a fan of Windows (and I am), it forces them to keep on their toes and remain competitive against a rival.

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i use fedora for everything, what are you even doing that you need these fotm distros

>>108680967
Shit nigga you see, Fedora doesn't boot with my modern Nvidia GPU and it doesn't included any multimedia codecs. So I rather use something that's literally the same but more convenient.
>imagine beta testing for Red Hat.

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>>108680907
>the overwhelming majority are stuck on windows because they can't install any other os
and you think that's a compliment towards windows you really are delusional
imagine being proud about being on the tail end of this

>>108680937
>a fan of Windows (and I am)
you must be 18 to post here
imagine still defending the nepotistic ibm deal a decade after receiving the confirmation as to why it was a mistake

>>108680841
Portable apps capability is the biggest one for me when it comes to windblows. MXlinux can be run as a portable OS but it's just not the same.

>>108680967
Windows 11 is my main OS, but Fedora is one of the few linux distros I like: Modern, yet professionally put together. The codec nonsense is a weakness.

>>108681066
>redhat beta is great except it cant play videos or audio no I won't use a better distro redhat beta is the best I fucking love microslop

>>108679260
Iodd-ST300 or Iodd Mini

>>108681002
I have a 40 series gpu, all the codecs pulled with 3 commands.
>imagine being filtered by reading a wiki article
>imagine beta testing for 3 literally who trannies

>>108681140
I didn't say it wasn't trivial to fix. I said it didn't do it for me.
>trannies
rent free much.

>>108681201
>i was just pretending to be retarded

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>Bazzite for gamers
as someone who's never used linux before having a few things preconfigured for me and having immutability there as a safety net appeals to me. but is that worth it over the being part of the larger Fedora user base?

>>108677301
kys

>>108681226
stay on windows it isnt worth it

>>108681226
you don't have to stay there forever

>>108681226
Bazzite is fine, I used it for a while, but I went back to regular fedora. Even Mint is fine. What's your usecase and hardware, any exotic peripherals?

>>108681092
It cannot play them because of codec patents, and being based in the US they have no choice. When you grow up, you'll realize that Red Hat backing is a good thing.

We're different sorts of users though. I need the OS as an engineer tool, for you it's a religion, lifestyle, and a hobby.

>>108681316
okay dhruv

>>108681331
Take care, Alice or Sophie.

>>108679137
There was a madman who made a huge PKGBUILD that recreated Ventoy and all its blobs by compiling actual source code from reputable sources, so as long as you used Ventoy from that PKGBUILD you should be fine.

>>108681303
>usecase
very basic just casual gaming and browsing 4chud, don't need any special software or anticheat
>hardware
planning on building a new pc with an amd gpu, 9060 or 9070 probably
>exotic peripherals
none

>>108681038
If Linuxfags weren't stuck up fags all the time then AppImage would've gotten a wider adoption, it's a more elegant solution than PortableApps but because it doesn't adhere to their crooked worldview of the "Unix way", despite Linux being anything but Unix, they refuse to use it out of some ass backwards principle.

>>108681402
You are golden, literally any distro will work. Just stick to the mainstream ones.
>Arch
>Debian
>Fedora
All of these require some setup. Fedora is probably the easiest to setup, just make sure to enable "RPMFusion" for the codecs. There are a lot of guides. And if you just want to start, with minimal effort, use popular forks of those mainstream distros:
>CachyOS
>Ubuntu/Mint
>Nobara/Bazzite

>>108681274
>you don't have to stay there forever
>>108681468
>if you just want to start, with minimal effort, use popular forks of those mainstream distros
think I'll go with bazzite to start and hop to fedora once I'm more comfortable. thanks anons

>>108681226
is baby wheels distro, perfect for what it is, your first steps. Eventually (a year or a month depending on your needs) you will 100% distro hop again, and that's fine, you can even go back to winblows if you want, but at the very least you did tried it.

I use Lubuntu on my laptop.

>>108677162
And yet he is using Arch, dwm and xlibre.

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>>108681776
>he's playing "point at the jeet" to do le ebin own on le wincucks
>at this very moment during Linux's core distro leadership shifts
roflmao

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>>108681809
meds

>>108679556
>what were CD/DVD/BluRay decrypters

>>108680122
>cachy is great, yes, but that should be recommended only to advanced users
As someone in the process of convincing a friend to use Linux, I'm struggling to work out why CachyOS isn't a good option.
Arch was my first OS and that went fine, Cachy by comparison seems incredibly noob friendly.
In what way would Bazzite be better? Because in my opinion it would be worse due to the lack of AUR being able to pull anything someone might want to install.

>>108677162
>Bazzite for gamers
What can Bazzite do that some normie distro can't ?

>>108677162
> power users
How about they fuck off back to windows?

>>108679244
It may be a UEFI rootkit, the one you cannot remove from your computer, it gets injected before your OS boots. You need to throw out your computer and get a new one. Or get a new UEFI chip soldered on your motherboard.
But that's only if you treat this seriously. If you don't care about someone stealing savegames to your skyrim, then don't bother doing anything about it.

>>108682050
what if you never used uefi

>>108679261
> the project's leadership, specifically the CEO Vladislav Nepogodin, operates within the Russian Federation (RF).
> Any successful IT project in Russia (or any business for that matter) is automatically a target for state security services (red globohomo is only different in it's outer colors)
> no build reproducibility, hello XZ Utils

>>108679244
The real meaning: Ventoy uses shit from a million different sources, some of which are code that isn't fully open-source. Some of these might be problematic or have aback door.
The anon meaning: You're about to be raped and murdered time to set your computer on fire.

>>108677162
cachyos for gamers and ubuntu for everyone else. power users will have no problem stripping snap out of ubuntu or making whatever other changes they need to.

>>108682136
why the fuck would a power user want anything debian related?
the purpose of it is diametrically opposed to those use cases

>>108682084
No idea, desu. You should ask someone who did some firmware tinkering. Pretty sure it is possible to access stuff on your PC before anything boots. Does not have to boot into EFI, may as well do something to MBR boot sector. Ventoy supports all of them btw.

>>108682159
all distros are 99% similar. if someone can't get a distro to do what they want they're not actually a power user, they're just a poseur. eg, there is no difference between portage and deb-src outside of a couple terms.

>>108682196
It would be great to use something like debian fully built from sources. If not for teh events that cause it to turn into DEIbian.

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Uh no, that's missing 2 categories, where is the distro for power users that have CPUs that CachyOS doesn't support (pic related, those would be CPUs older than the ones listed here)?
Where is the minimal distro for very limited hardware?

Office workers are better off having bazzite/aurora for the immutability/rollbacks/SELinux/etc

This guy has no clue what he's talking about

>>108682578
Office workers are related iPhone using TikTok watchers. They're better off with windows

>>108681809
i have literally been depressed for weeks since i found out she would be the new leader
debian means so much to me and now this happens

>>108680039
The only time my mint installation broke was because of me being stupid auto booting partitions. It's literally retarded proof if you just install from the store and use normally and everything that works on debian and ubuntu works on mint so it's easy to troubleshoot.

>>108682627
>open doc.pdf.url from an email
>hacked

>>108682638
Upgrade to FreeBSD or Windows.

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>>108677162
What's a good distro for media production?

>>108682674
You think a retarded normalcattle is going to know how to sudo apt update? They can barely update their iPhones

>>108682689
Distro has nothing to do with it. If you have nVidia you run davinci. If you have amd you run KDEnlive.

>>108682692
Those distros probably have a GUI package manager included by default and auto updaters since ages ago, wouldn't be different from the modern windows user with windows update and microsoft store.

>>108677162
>TroonziteOS
NO FUCKING THANKS, I prefer windows than this piece of r
Shit that has a trans kid as mascot.

>>108681957
I imagine the difference between cachyos and bazzite for example is that bazzite comes with all the bloat pre installed while cachyos you need to click on the package manager or "cachyos hello" program to do it for you.

>>108682692
>>108682627
the ublue distros (bazzite and aurora) update automatically and automically. if some officecattle fucks up his PC you just get the IT guy to roll it back for them. way simpler than windows, way harder to fuck up. i genuinely believe that immutable distros will be what brings linux into the mainstream (i.e. in the workplace).

>>108682307
You know you can just use generically compiled packages like with any other distro right.

>>108677162
just use artix or devuan

>>108677194
start with yourself millennial tranny

>>108682050
>enables secure boot and only signs the os's source built bootloader
pssh nothin' personnel, kid

>>108682888
huh, seems like it does, I assumed those were the minimum CPU requirements since it's on the minimum requirements page, but the recommended specs specifically adds v3.

>>108677194
I understand racism, but I’ll never understand ageism. Aren’t you just attacking your future self?

>>108682935
It's not so much about being old, as being old currently because the current generation of old people are greedy and retarded.

>>108677162
GAMING DISTROS ARE GIMMICKS YOU IDIOTS

>>108682941
Why is that, because they don’t recognize your made up gender and they own a home? You cannot make a sweeping statement like that whilst calling others retarded.

>>108682973
Tons of boomers are on board with trannies actually, it's disgusting.
And I believe the simplest answer without diving deeply at all is that they simply had it too good, that's what made them what they are.

>>108677164
>>108677249
>>108678039
>>108679137
>>108679226
the dev's other project: https://github.com/ventoy/PXE/issues/106

>>108682954
>optimized kernel
>optimized packages
nuh-uh

>>108681809
what the fuck is this ? richard stallwoman ?

>>108682689
Mac or Windows if you want to be serious

>>108683388
That's the new leader of Debian, Sruthi Chandran of India. Her only platform is diversity and she is a librarian. This is not an overstatement in any respect and you can read about it on her DPL page.

>>108683490
Lol @ Debian
When will you pretend Linux users start using a real distro.. you know actual Linux like Void, Artix, or Devuan?

>>108683526
Deuan is downstream of Debian so anything bad that happens to Debian will most likely happen to it

>>108683544
Devuan is so heavily forked it's not even recognizable as Debian. The maintainers will but remove any DEI gayness out anything the flows down

>>108683581
It's literally just Debian but without systemd

>>108683581
>Devuan is so heavily forked
Explain

>>108678008
Steam pre installed, and a big picture mode akin to steamos for TV and handheld setups

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>>108683526
>>108683581
I took one look at Devuan packages and lo and behold, they really are just leeching off of Debian's work.

>>108677162
Mint can work for gaming, you just have to install the graphics drivers and Steam will take care of the rest, no need for those other tranny distros

>>108684499
>Mint can work
>you just have to do some bullshit
His video is targeting beginners who wouldn't want to fuck around with anything. Bazzite is currently the best "I want to game and use my PC for other things" OS.

>>108684473
Everyone is just leeching off Sruthi Chandran tech these days.

>>108684599
Butthurt "real" distro user detected.

>>108684605
Good morning. No, I run Satya Nadella tech.

>>108677386
>Void Linux for power users
BLM slop

>>108677162
distros for high IQ: cachyos for gaymers, nixos for power users, devuan for wagies.

>>108680906
good morning sir

>>108680331
biggest retard itt

>>108681760
this

What distro isn't full of trannies, doesn't force systemd or Wayland and doesn't take two weeks of reading a wiki to install only to spend another two weeks making everything work?
I don't think such a thing exists.
Trannies make a distro that actually works.
Straight non-DEI team makes a broken pile of shit that doesn't work.
I hate to say it, but the trannies won this one

>>108677162
>Bazzite for gamer beginners
>Nobara for gamers that want to install shit in their systems
>Pop! OS for non FEDora gamers that want to install shit in their systems
>CachyOS for gamer power users that can handle Arch annoyances
>Linux Mint for office workers, total newbies, or lazy "just works" users
>ZorinOS for Windows users who still want to pay for an OS
>Debian for non-whites in compliance with Jeeta's vision
>Devuan/Void for paranoid schizophrenics
>Qubes for paranoid schizophrenics with proof
>MX Linux for paranoid schizophrenic office workers
>Artix for indian trans
>FEDora for feds and indians
>Ubuntu for non-gamers
>EndeavourOS for lazy Arch users who don't give a shit about the install process and just want Arch to boot again
>Arch for trans
>Garuda Linux for gamers who don't care about single digit performance improvements
>Manjaro for retarded trans
>Omarchy Linux for lazy Arch office workers
>Slackware for grandpa
>Gentoo for gay grandpas

>>108686056
>Bazzite for gamer beginners
>Nobara for gamers that want to install shit in their systems
Some day read about brew, distrobox, rpm-ostree.

>>108685925
Gentoo, as we've been telling you for decades

>>108686056
>Nobara for gamers
Nobara is a buggy, collapsing pile of shit. It's only viable if you're a tinkertranny who loves constantly troubleshooting and fixing shit.
>install shit in their systems
Learn what a package manager is. You have rpm-ostree in Bazzite. Bazzite is not SteamOS, it's not immutable.
>Pop! OS
Should be used by nobody aside from COSMIC devs.
>Linux Mint for office workers, total newbies, or lazy "just works" users
Any distro is fine for this. If anything Atomic distros are much better especially for lazy "just works" users.
>Garuda
Should be used by nobody. It's a buggy mess of a distro maintained by a single Indian.
>Manjaro
A failed distro that's deprecated in favor of Endeavor and Cachy.
>Omarchy
A meme "flavor of the week" distro made for a single person and nobody else.
>Gentoo, Slackware, Devuan, Void
Meme distros for autistic people.
>Debian, Fedora
They're fine, but their downstreams (Ubuntu, Mint, Bazzite) are significantly better and should be used instead. If you're enough of a system administrator and tinkerer to not want to use downstream distros then Arch is a much better choice than Debian and Fedora.

>>108679480
for office workers with an IT dept: NixOS

>>108686379
> Learn what a package manager is. You have rpm-ostree in Bazzite. Bazzite is not SteamOS, it's not immutable.
Bazzite is immutable, rpm-ostree creates full system overlays.
So when you install anything using rpm-ostree it will rebuild the whole OS image and ask you to restart to boot into it.
Use brew and distrobox when they are enough.
Distrobox makes it easy to have full hardware passthrough.
Brew is just normal package manager that install everything into userspace.

>>108686472
When people say "immutable" they're thinking of something like SteamOS or GnomeOS where there's no such thing as rpm-ostree and almost everything is read-only and can't be altered or overridden.

In Bazzite the "immutability" aspect is non-existent. It behaves exactly the same as any other distro in 99.9% of cases without even having to rely on brew or distrobox. You have rpm-ostree and a lot more stuff can be edited and pretty much everything can be overridden.

Where does Slackware stands in the tier list?

>>108686292
>brew, distrobox, rpm-ostree
Incomplete technology desu.
There's too man quirks with them for an average user to use.

>>108686513
No, you don't know shit, go read what ostree is and what immutable distro means.
>>108686809
To be fair, average user is supposed to only use what is available in Steam, Heroic, Lutris and Bazaar.
And that's a lot.
Brew, distrobox and rpm-ostree are tools for devs and powerusers.

How trustworthy is this guy and his Winutil software? Like from 1 to 10.

>>108686669
slackware is GNU/Linux for windows users.

think about it:
- you have to install every program, besides the most basic ones, from some homepage after you downloaded it individually
- installing things takes time and often will break your system
- upgrading to new versions successfully relies on 99% sheer luck
- slackware had its naming scheme altered by skipping from slackware 4 to slackware 7. like windows did multiple times as well, changing from version to year-based release names to simple names to version names again.
- slackware still retains the same basic functions without any real innovation like windows does since 1.0. all they add is some more blingbling in the DE.
- slackware users are uncaring, egoistic children that think they are being clever for using a cumbersome operating system for a mundane reason. in windows, that is "GAEMS!!!!", in slackware "NO DEPENDENCY MANAGEMENT MEANS FREEDOM!!!"
- they both have their own operating system cult leaders. bill gates vs that volkerding guy
- slackware and windows both dont care about support for architectures other than x86. only lately, after lots of nagging and threats, they have released a half-assed 64-bit version that breaks constantly. ARM, PPC, they all will never see any slackware or windows on them.

SLACKWARE = GNU/WINDOWS

>>108681239
wait, your name actually is ping pong?

>>108679137
Follow my example instead: whenever everyone does something, refuse to do that thing.

>>108686977
1. He is a scammer.

>>108686958
Yeah, I'm sure distrobox's implementation will only get better and better. I'm convinced Bazzite, UBlue and other atomic distros are the future.
But right now, most users would be better using a regular distro.

elementaryOS for gamers
elementaryOS for power users
elementaryOS for office workers

Fixed.

>>108687266
I think other distros might be better for low grade powerusers whose power level isn't enough to deal with immutable distros for advanced scenarios. For actual "average users" immutable atomic distro might be easier/better because it doesn't have a chance of breaking in the middle of update, or in any other way end up in broken state that requires tinkering to get out of. As for advanced scenarios they don't need those thus don't mind those are harder than regular distros with regular package managers.

>>108687369
You can break an immutable distro with rpm-ostree, requires "tinkering" by going back to a good image and removing the conflicting packages.

This happened to me when I had a KDE program layered and rebased to GNOME/Silverblue, wouldn't boot properly. So maybe only true immutable distros without the ability to layer packages are meant for beginners.

>>108687116
How exactly?

>>108677162
Install Linux, add the packages you require, now you can play games, do office work and be a power user.

It's not hard, people are just retards, the internet was a mistake.

>>108683490
Also her only contribution to the Debian project was running one DebConf where someone fucking died.

>>108682909
>tfw specifically re-enabled UEFI and disabled secured boot to speed up my boot up times

>>108687618
DUMB NIG/G/ER

>You can break an immutable distro with rpm-ostree
stop using rpm-ostree override replace/remove

>requires "tinkering" by going back to a good image
one line: rpm-ostree rollback

use flatpak and containers you sub-80 IQ nig/g/er

>>108688037
Yeah but which Linux tho?

>>108688754
I fixed it by booting a good image and using rpm-ostree to uninstall the offending packages. You can't "rollback" when it doesn't boot.

I know how to use Silverblue, Kinoite, etc, I was saying that you can fuck it up especially if you are a new user. I didn't use override nor replace/remove. Simply had KDEconnect installed on Kinoite and rebased to Silverblue.

>>108679861
shalom, schmekle Shlomo

>>108686379
>Nobara is a buggy, collapsing pile of shit. It's only viable if you're a tinkertranny who loves constantly troubleshooting and fixing shit.

u lost tranny

echo $(( ( $(date +%s) - $(stat -c %W /var) ) / 86400 )) && uname -a
267
Linux pc 7.0.1-200.nobara.fc43.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Apr 22 19:53:20 UTC 2026 x86_64 GNU/Linux

>>108688845
>fc43
Deprecated. Use 44 beta OR ELSE.

>>108688886
Nobara is the well-tested distro and don't have any issues. It can't be broken daily as SAARch by fucken sudo pacman -Syu

> nobara-sync cli
[sudo] password for user:
2026-04-25 22:04:08 - INFO - Running CLI mode...
2026-04-25 22:04:08 - INFO - Checking repositories...

2026-04-25 22:04:16 - INFO -
2026-04-25 22:04:16 - INFO - Checking for various known problems to repair, please do not turn off your computer...

2026-04-25 22:04:27 - INFO - No Updates Available.
2026-04-25 22:04:27 - INFO - All Updates complete!

>>108689001
Fedora users fucking hate n00barans

If it don't [sic] have any issues, why does the #Fedora IRC have to put "Nobara not supported" in the topic lmao. They wouldn't have to do that unless n00bs kept coming seeking help.

>>108688787
> booting a good image
Hey but it does that automatically after few failed attempts to boot the latest image.

>>108677611
this
/thread

>>108677249
backdoor is irrelevant, autist
everying is monitored like 1984