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And it's actually very good. No more waiting for stop jobs. Much faster boot than systemd. They even have the ungoogled-chromium binary in their official repository, which Arch Linux hasn't been able to figure out for a decade for whatever reason.
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>>108680216
>ungoogled-chromium binary in their official repository
wait this isreal
I knew about librewolf but this is based
no more need to download shady binaries from some niggerHub repo
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>Too stupid to configure a shitty stop job
lol
BTW OpenBSD has ungoogled chromium in the binary repository too
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>>108680216
It is a reproducible binary?
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>>108680358
>>Too stupid to configure a shitty stop job
It's not my job to configure the init system. An init system, just like Linux, should just work. That's the point of having Linux distributions at all. And systemd evidently is not capable of this.
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>>108680358
From a threat-modeling perspective, you are profoundly failing to grasp the systemic vulnerability of an "optional" date field. In enterprise security architecture, "optional" is a linguistic zero-day designed to normalize data ingestion; it is a Trojan horse bypassing user consent protocols. Today it is a simple `birthDate` string localized in `userdb`. Tomorrow, the systemd schema will cryptographically bind that temporal anchor to your biometric hash, your genetic lineage, and your financial metadata directly into the PID 1 singleton.

You naively believe leaving it "unfilled" provides null-safety. In a zero-trust environment, an empty field is not a defense, it is an undefined attack surface waiting for a future background daemon to silently populate it via a forced OTA update. By centralizing user telemetry directly into the init system, the absolute lowest level of the kernel userspace, systemd is laying the cryptographic groundwork for a universal identity attestation protocol.

This change fundamentally alters the threat landscape. It is not just changing where data is stored; it is consolidating the exfiltration pipeline into a homogenous, remotely enumerable mesh. You are participating in the mass delusion of "incrementalism," completely blind to the dependency graph. By the time the public realizes this field is being cross-referenced with `systemd-resolved` DNS logs and `systemd-homed` encrypted vaults for mandatory age verification, the lock-in will be absolute. The architectural coupling will be so deep that migrating the global Linux infrastructure to a non-compromised init system will be mathematically and functionally impossible.

I don't just feel "upset" over systemd; I am treating this as a critical severity CVE against the future of digital anonymity. I value my operational security, and I understand that a single optional metadata field in PID 1 is the kill switch for human privacy...
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>>108680400
K. Enjoy your fraction of a percent of 3% of desktop linux standing up. I'm sure that'll solve something. Good luck with that.
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Welcome to the club. Which init did you choose? I like dinit, it boots and shuts down so fast I don't even see the TTY.
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>>108680400
coping so hard holy shit kek
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>>108680400
checked, if this isn't pasta it should be
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>>108680400
Checked, kekked, saved.
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>>108680428
>>108680594
>>108680665
>>108681940
it's AI slop bros...
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I tried it on a laptop after my old one died and I really like it. Considering migrating my 12 year old desktop install to it
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>>108680468
i personally use runit. it's caveman primitive but it's fun and extremely fast. on artix it also boots in parallel and when that's combined with lack of dependency graphs it leads to insane boot times. i boot from limine to kde in like 2 seconds. now for more reliable environments the modern solution is dinit
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>>108680216
>Much faster boot than systemd
usecase?
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>>108680216
>I use Artix btw
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>>108680216
Is there some way to make the AUR more usable or reliable on Artix. It seems like it's one of those "you can use it, but have fun lol" things. If they could make their own curated version of the AUR that is low risk and then you can switch to the full AUR at your own risk that'd be. Maybe there is a way to grep for systemd or a way to add flags in the PKGs to see if it can compile / work without systemd that'd be nice. I don't know enough about the AUR or Artix to give better suggestions, but to me the entire point of Arch is access to the AUR so I'd rather switch to Void or stay on Arch. If I'm wrong then let me know so I can decide if Artix is worth the jump.
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>>108685048
If you're going to use a systemd-free distro, then pick an independent distro. Not a derivative.
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>>108680216
do i use artix with runit, openrc or s6 or dinit?
which init system is most supported and easiest to configure/fix/fuck with
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>>108685048
The AUR is a wasteland of abandoned, semi-abandoned or soon to be one of the two garbage for gay niggers. The sooner you come to terms with this, the sooner you can be happy in life.
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>>108680391
Yes, it literally is. It's literally your computer running software (You) decide or wrote yourself. If your shit isn't stopping after SIGTERM, it's a (You) problem. Incompetent fucking retard. Hell, most distros ship an auto abort config now.
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>>108685092
ah fuck it, i will just install them all on my proxmox and compare side to side.
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>>108685092
Openrc is basically the official, most supported init and also older/used on more distros. Runit is really simple, but also has basically no features. Works fine on Void. s6 seems more like an advanced user init, don't know much about it. dinit seems like the most promising systemd replacement. My monkey brain feels like it should be the best option and have better compatibility with systemd, but that could just be because the syntax more or less the same.

I haven't installed it yet, but I have been looking into it, so I'd be interested to hear your experience >>108685231
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>>108680391
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>>108680400
>slop larper pasta
magnifico..
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>>108680216
They even have xlibre as a real package. I'm seriously considering buying a used thinkpad now just to use it as my main Artix/Loonix machine, as for now I am stuck with Alpine on my raspi 500+. Honestly if Alpine devs weren't tards in politics and allowed xlibre, I would just stick to it.
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>>108685095
yay -Ssa systemd-liberated
aur/systemd-liberated-sysvcompat-git 261.r87873-1 (+15 9.46)
sysvinit compat for systemd — liberated fork (git version)
aur/systemd-liberated-resolvconf-git 261.r87873-1 (+15 9.46)
systemd resolvconf replacement — liberated fork (git version)
aur/systemd-liberated-ukify-git 261.r87873-1 (+15 9.46)
Combine kernel and initrd into a signed UKI — liberated fork (git version)
aur/systemd-liberated-tests-git 261.r87873-1 (+15 9.46)
systemd tests — liberated fork (git version)
aur/systemd-liberated-libs-git 261.r87873-1 (+15 9.46)
systemd client libraries — liberated fork (git version)
aur/systemd-liberated-git 261.r87873-1 (+15 9.46)
system and service manager — liberated fork (no surveillance, git version)
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>>108680358
This post just reminded me to set mine to 30 seconds
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>>108683081
don't care, saved
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>based on Arch
>doesn't share the main package repos, has their own
>there are packages that are outdated on Artix repos but up to date on Arch

Wtf is the point then? You only really use this pos when you feel the need to be different.
I don't really buy the faster boot argument either. From UEFI it takes around 10 seconds for systemd to put me at login. I doubt any other init system will be a *substantial* improvement on top of that.
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>>108680216
They are missing a btrfs-bees package for dinit, but I guess I can compile from source and make my own service
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>>108681940
>image
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>>108680216
>ungoogled-chromium
Gay and retarded

>have to hack a way to install google extensions
>have to manually update from github all the time
>ads get through no matter what
Sure love watching ads about dishwasher soap every time I open a new fucking Youtube video, bro.

>zen browser
>just works
>literally no ads
>no hacks to get ublock installed
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>>108683766
it's so obvious at this point
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>>108688594
hey anon, you seem like a cool guy. want a hot tip? there is this underground distro - you might not have heard of it, its called Artix.
its Arch-based but actually based because the lead dev btfo'd trannies and foid and is a chud just like us.



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