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Anyone here tried using nixos for a server?
How difficult is it to learn and set it up compared to debian?
Would i still just be running everything through podman and lxc or does nix have some different way of doing things for contanerization?
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>>108680402
I just installed Fedora last night.

How can I make my UI look like some deranged futuristic alien tech from 2004? Like Combine terminals from Half life 2 or the OG Xbox dashboard. I hate modern minimalist designs.
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>>108680505
https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Docker
you can run containers on nix and honestly it's probably not that crazy of an idea. too bad about the nix language itself.
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paru with filemanager set to lf and news enabled is so comfy
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Would I be considered a paranoid freak if I usred Tails? Is Tails really that secure? Anyone here try Tails? How is it?
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Is 8GB ram enough to test distros on VirtualBox without a problem?
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>>108680792
The issue with all the hardcore security OSes and browsers is that they are very often too paranoid for daily use. Unless you really have reasons to hide your online presence from the world, don't bother - you'll be searching for more convienent options pretty much immediately.
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>>108680792
It's designed to prevent information leaks not so much be secure. Tor only gives most people enough rope to hang themselves, and Tails functions as lane bumpers to force them toward semi-reasonable practices. Security comes from understanding your software stack and threat model. It's not a magic ritual that grows more powerful by adding random inconveniences.
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About to try out a new Linux Distro after being on Mint for a while. I haven't documented any changes I have made (DNS, hotkeys, settings etc.). Is there a way to look at everything I have changed so that I can make a backup?
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>>108680805
probably since you can easily allocate 512MB with kvm/qemu and have decent performance
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On Brave Browser, I have a very thin buggy line that sits between the search bar and the bookmarks bar. Does anyone else have this issue? Its also a fresh installation. I'm using Linux Mint 22.2
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I had to disable VRR because AyyMD driver kept crashing every couple of hours.
This started with kernel 6.18 still not fixed with 7.0
So tiresome.
Thank you for reading this blog.
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Good news everybody
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the wallpapers are really neat this time.
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>>108681617
The only news I want to hear about Ubuntu is that it's being discontinued.
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>>108680402
Jay Leno
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>>108681678
ubuntu might suck but they've been great at aesthetics
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Thunar has been crashing a lot for me recently so I've been trying out other file managers. A weird thing I've encountered is that if you open a file using any other file manager, it doesn't set the current directory as the working directory. I've found out that Thunar's behavior here is a XFCE quirk because it uses exo-open instead of xdg-open. I'm bewildered that this isn't how everything else works and I'm really not sure why this is the case.
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>>108680402
>opensuse mentioned
>obligatory post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLdexZlVkAY
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>>108680452
Hey, cut me some slack...
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helo. why SMB slow and for homosexuals?
slow on debian, slow on fedora, slow on laptop, slow on VM, slow on Wi-Fi, slow upload, slow download, slow on different VLAN, slow on same VLAN, slow like retard

thank
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>>108681963
Never liked Thunar, I like how it looks but some of the little quirks it has drives me insane compared to dolphin or w/e xfce comes with
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why is opensuse "minimal" install 2GB - ffs even if you leave just the basics it's like they put 3 distros in there on purpose.
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>>108682049
Probably because you're using gvfs instead of kernel driver like an idiot.
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>>108682049
a bit of this >>108682294 and using it when you should be using nfs if you don't have any windows machines
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>>108682331
>>108682294
had atime enabled on the share for some reason which was causing everything to slow down.
also my systemd automount on the laptop is hurting performance.
able to max out the raidz1 by manually mounting the share. will need something a bit better than that for the laptop but I have a starting point.
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>>108682060
>or w/e xfce comes with
...it comes with Thunar.
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>>108682331
cifs makes more sense for home users unless you've gone full enterprise larp and set up ldap everywhere
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Does anyone know if the hypervisor bypass works on proton/wine or if there is something that works with it? My CPU doesn't have virtualization support, so I'm out of luck on using QEMU passthrough on either linux or windows.
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>>108681963
>Thunar
Use ranger for your file management stuff and use rm for deleting files since, for some reason, you cannot delete files in ranger.
Or be a CLI gigachad and manage your files with the coreutils (which is better btw).
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>>108680792
>Would I be considered a paranoid freak
if paranoid freak were another word for pedophile, yes
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>>108682487
Hold on... What am I using right now?
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>>108682487
>>108682850 (Me)
NAUTILUS, I meant Nautilus lol
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>>108682294
What are some ways of setting it up like a pro? Using NFS on Linux-to-Linux applications because I'm clueless with SMB/CIFS.
>>108680899
>Mint
>DNS
As in NetworkManager? idk about that but generally all that junk lives under /etc or possibly /var. (remember your Bluetooth pairings from /var/lib/bluetooth)
>hotkeys
>settings
That's all in your $HOME, simply back it up and transfer it over to your new install. (That's why some people host their home at different partition/volume so they can do new installs on a whim)
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>>108681431
this is how it looks like
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>>108680575
Probably should have installed arch or void or some other Le Minimal distro and just built out some custom autismo basically unfuckingusable custom desktop
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>>108680575
Did you install the default workstation ISO? that comes with Gnome, very rigid non-customizable, Install Mate or XFCE, or something like Windowmaker, anything to substitute Gnome. Then look up r/unixporn for inspiration or resources to copy from.
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>>108683146
>What are some ways of setting it up like a pro? Using NFS on Linux-to-Linux applications because I'm clueless with SMB/CIFS.
you set it up in your fstab or with a systemd mount unit. when you access a share through your file manager you're mounting it in userspace instead of using the faster, mature kernel drivers.
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>>108683173
I do not have that. If it's not DE/WM difference it may be your theme, whatever I'm using is dark and grey. It says it's 'classic' but it's clearly some kind of dark mode.
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Weird question but how can I replicate the ubuntu 9.10 look on modern MATE?
I got as far as getting the colors, icon and cursor right, also got compiz 0.8 installed. But the window border still doesn't look right.
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How is Debian KDE compared to Kubuntu/Fedora KDE?
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>>108684003
older with vintage Krashes
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It's not really a big deal but is there a way to show your storage and devices displayed in GB in things like the file explorer or in neofetch? Right now it's in GiB. I don't really mind it being in GiB, but I'm just curious.
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>>108684003
You'd think Kubuntu would be better, but it's amateur-hour compared to a nice, clean Debian setup.
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>>108683360
Right. Don't have a SMB server at the moment but just out of interest: what's the filesystem type for such an entry?
>>108684038
There's no universal system setting for it, check the settings for each program.
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>>108684116
cifs apparently
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>>108684116
>There's no universal system setting for it, check the settings for each program.
All right, thanks!
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>>108684035
what
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Have le-revolution urge to move on artix/devuan (preferably with hyprland
Or is it nothing burger and shouldnt bother with this at the moment and stick to fedora/arch?
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Can I really not make a bridge connection with NetworkManager without deleting the original wired connection? I've tried setting it up. I got it conencted, but it doesn't actually connect to the internet. I've just disabled the original. I somehow doubt that's the problem though.
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>>108684607
Do you understand the concept of a bridge? The idea is that the bridge has an IP while slaves don't.
>I got it conencted, but it doesn't actually connect to the internet.
>I got it conencted
"Connected" as in what?
>it doesn't actually connect to the internet
Whatever settings your internet-connected physical Ethernet device had: apply it to the bridge, stuff should just work.

I've achtually done those network schemes forever, idea being that I can arbitrarily turn any PC to a NAT'able Wi-Fi router on a whim. It's also nice to have the bridge case I want to join a virtual machine to the physical net.
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>Ubuntu 26.04
>Dynamic workspaces
>All windows on the first workspace
>Try to drag a window to the second workspace
>Nothing happens
??
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How do i replicate snap assist from Windows on KDE? I mean the feature that when you snap a window to half screen, a window picker to fill in remaining space appears. Plasma 6.6.4
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>>108685162
The KWin script PlasmaZones
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>>108685162
>>108685168
The PlasmaZones equivalent is even called "Snap Assist"
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>>108684552
The closest thing to a real counter culture move in Linux is Gentoo. Because the shit actually works and has purpose behind it other than new thing bad.

If you actually care about all the gay culture war shit you should be using OpenBSD. Because Linux, the kernel, is not your friend.
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>>108685168
>>108685177
Neat thanks. Should be part of default DE imho, but this is cool piece of software.
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>>108685200
The default is more flexible in my opinion because you define the zones and splits however you want.

Just press Meta+T to change how the splits look and then hold Shift when dragging a windows titlebar. You can then even go back to Meta+T and re-arrange things and it'll adjust the windows to match.

I also used to wish for Windows 11-like snapping but after getting used to the tiling feature I think I prefer it.
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what ffmpeg commands do you frequently use?
I'm making a web interface for common ffmpeg operations and want some ideas for what to include.
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>>108685260
>what ffmpeg commands do you frequently use?
https://packages.debian.org/en/trixie/video-downloader
This one
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>>108684646
I don't actually need to worry about the bridge network anymore, but really all cared is when I set it up if I needed to delete the whole wired connection details like the tutorials I saw, or if it was all right disconnected. It was for a VM though.
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>>108685257
I'll give it a try, but years of doing it like that on windows built a muscle memory. Thanks for advice.
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>>108685443
The thing is one could just have the network initially set up like that. Having a bridge doesn't hurt even if you don't need it but when you do it's nice it's there.
>want to turn your system to a Wi-Fi access point
>simply add the wireless device to the bridge
>want to host a virtual machine and let it to the local net
>simply add it to the bridge
etc.
Obviously this adds some networking bloat when not needed but just saying.
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>>108685260
These are useful for shitposting purposes
Extract audio
ffmpeg -i <input file> -vn -acodec <output file>

Remove audio without re-encoding
ffmpeg -i <input file> -c copy -an <output file>

Cut without re-encoding
ffmpeg -i <input file> -c copy -ss 00:04:25.000 -to 00:09:25.000 <output file>
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>>108685464
I'm just a little autistic pls understand. I was also afraid of deleting it, the bridge not working, and then I'd have to figure out how to setup the network since it was ready to go once Linux was installed. Dealing with networking related issues has never been my forte.
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how can i download just the youtube music album cover using ytdlp from a playlist?

if i download the whole playlist with --write-thumbnail it downloads the actual cover but it also downloads every single video thumbnail, and i want only the cover

if i use yt-dlp --dump-json "PLAYLIST_URL" | jq -r '.thumbnail'
it shows all the video thumbnails and not the "cover"
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do you know of notes programs that support markdown? I end up using rentry/gist quite often and as a result I was thinking of just switching to a note taking app and use it locally. bonus points if it supports different flavors of markdown (e.g. support for github alerts like [!NOTE])
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>>108685609
KDE Marknote?
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>>108685609
vscode

but you will have to run a command (ctrl + KV) to "render" the markdown
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Can any loonix wizard tell wtf is wrong with this machine with a simple glance at my error logs?
Context: this is originally a Debian 12 installation which I recently upgraded to 13. I use it mainly for office work and on the surface there is nothing wrong, everything works as expected. It's just when I open the Logs program I find it filled up with this type of error.

I tried going back and forth with an AI on it but it was inconclusive. Something about missing some Tracker packages for systemd or GNOME, and the rest I frankly couldn't interpret because I'm a non-technical user.
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>>108685709 (me)
I can also add this
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>>108685609
Joplin. But it's an Electron bloatware.
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>>108685709
>ambigious column name: ROWID
sounds like your config needs to be migrated.
You now may have to do this thing the Archers call manual intervention.
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>>108685762
Teach me Archie. What does it mean that my "config" needs to be "migrated", and how do I do that?
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>>108680452
I fucking love Slackware, it just works.
>muh minimalism
Embrace being a fat piece of shit.
>muh dependencies
Stop playing around with random bullshit. Install what you need and DO something with your life.
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>>108685742
Ok then
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>>108685788
you locate the config file(s) used by localsearch, then you open them and change their content according to what it needs to be.
First I'd look for stuff mentioning ROWID.
No, I can't tell you what's wrong/right, I don't use localsearch.
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>>108685724
localsearch is the gnome file search/indexer. Maybe you have to reset the database with localsearch-reset --filesystem
See https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/localsearch/commandline.html#localsearch-reset
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>>108685742
ooh it even has what I was looking for https://joplinapp.org/plugins/plugin/com.github.alan-null.joplin-plugin-github-alerts/ thanks
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>>108685833
The fr*nch should just be nuked into oblivion and their territory divided between Spain and Germany.
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>>108685950
yeah but they are also the only ones doing anything right now. germany has been neutered and spain is just a conscientious objector. I hope their move to foss systems will end up working
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>>108685950
>The fr*nch should just be nuked into oblivion and their territory divided between Spain and Germany.
Reddit behavior
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>>108680766
paru-bin is broken last time i tried using it
>but just compile from source
Don't wanna.
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>>108680792
Depends on your usecase but tails is supposed to be a liveusb you can use for disposable stuff (like checking for malware) . You might be better off with just setting up qubes os if you want the most secure distro.
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>>108683146
Just use sshfs instead its much easier and simpler.
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>>108684607
You're supposed to create a bridge interface and then add the interfaces to that bridge and do all the network configuring on the bridge interface while disabling whatever you have configured on the actual physical interfaces.
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>>108685609
Gollum
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>>108685540
>I'd have to figure out how to setup the network
You clicked "next" during the whole install, right? You are using the so called automatic IP as in DHCP, pick that when configuring again.
>>108686096
sshfs seems to crash somehow when dealing with big transfer or lots of files. Also don't want/need encryption. Definitely don't want to incorporate an user account for the file transfer as the server only has root account and these files in question aren't exactly private or anything.
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>>108686302
>much easier and simpler.
>don't want/need encryption
no one said you should use it because encryption
It's still the easiest to set up
> Definitely don't want to incorporate an user account for the file transfer
And your idea for that was nfs?
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I keep coming across this meme that Linux Mint is a great choice for putting on grandpa's computer so he won't fuck shit up. Is this true? Like how safe is it really? I was thinking of putting it on my dad's aging laptop which still runs W10 so I can stop being his personal tech support.
But is it really safe? Like can he do his emails, taxes, home banking and shit on it without his data being pwned by Nigerian princes? Keep in mind this man once managed to install ransomware on the family computer back in the W7 days by clicking on a porn ad or something.
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>>108686445
The whole point of it is that it's based on Ubuntu LTS and feels more like Windows then Ubuntu does. It's basically just a better Ubuntu using Ubuntu as a base.
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>>108686445
>without his data being pwned by Nigerian princes?
An OS can not replace his brain. User being stupid is not a threat model an OS like Mint prevents.
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>>108686445
Mint or any distro should be ok but you cant really stop people from doing stupid things. Installing ublock origin on the web browser should help mitigate the ads at least.
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>>108686507
This. He could use whatever distro but all he needs to protect his boomer self is Firefox with UBO installed in it, or Brave (which you can install UBO in natively.)
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>>108686445
That's a hard question to ask because while Mint is very similar to Win10 there are small differences that to the techtarded are extremely confusing or confounding. You might find yourself being called more often to be their personal IT guy until they get used to it. Does your Dad actually learn new things or are they like my parents where when something breaks or doesn't work, they just give up, run to me, and I teach them how to fix it (its almost only 1 of 5 of the same problems) and they continue on with their day until they can't do something again. This has been going on for 2 decades for me, 2 decades of me trying to teach them how to use the smart tv, 2 decades of me trying to teach them how to online print. Nothing has changed since then, they aren't on new hardware, they aren't on new OSes, the smart tv hasn't been replaced or had major updates, same with the printer. They are just incapable of learning it for some reason, and if that is the case just keep him on win10 or let him upgrade to win11 because installing Mint for them is going to be frustrating to both you and him.
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Now that the dust has settled, what is better:
Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (don't want the new one)
Debian 13

Hard mode: no whining about Snap
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>>108686545
Debian is so user friendly these days I dunno why you'd still use straight Ubuntu LTS when it's been awful for ages.
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>>108686551
Ubuntu does polish that Debian does not do. I'm busy enough without having to tweak le ebic desktop
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>>108686545
I haven't tried Debian 13, but Xubuntu 24.04 has been pretty rock solid so far, could be more polished but that might be xfce.
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>>108686558
>ughhh I'm too busy~~~
Yeah alright lol
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>>108686558
If Debian doesn't do polish then maybe I won't try Devuan, because if there isn't a distro that does polish like Mint does, I'll probably just go back to Mint.
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>>108683978
you'd need to see if someone has made a gtk3+ port of the "human" theme. does mate not use the same WM as gnome2? (metacity), i thought it did but i haven't used mate in ages so idk how much it has diverged. if it uses the same wm still or compatible it might take metacity/gnome2 border themes as is
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>>108686583
It uses marco but I've replaced it with compiz
Anyway I just ripped the theme and icons out of the 9.10 live cd and installed them, they look almost right now but still not quite.
Ubuntu also had custom panel applets that look different from what MATE ships.
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>>108683978
Use-case for having two taskbars?
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>>108686761
Bottom one is user tasks, top one are computer tasks like terminal, alerts, updates
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dumb question but does synaptic package manager only host or use snaps?
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>>108686761
Use-case for use-cases?
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>>108686792
no, it uses debs
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>>108686761
>Not having 4 taskbars to frame your computer screen like a picture by hiding all the icons
>constantly gaslight people that its a picture frame not a monitor until they just agree with me
>have wallpaper that changes to a random picture once every month and gaslight people by saying its always been that picture
>laugh when my parents actually think its a "digital picture frame" and are blown away when they see me sit down to "type on it like a computer"
You sound boring...
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My plasmashell is completely shitting the bed. Any interaction with the tray area in the bottom right causes it to hard freeze. How do i figure out what it's getting hung up on so i can sort it?
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>>108686855
Run
plasmashell --replace
in a terminal and monitor the output for anything that gives a clue
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>>108686545
Ubuntu, of course.
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>>108686558
>Ubuntu does polish that Debian does not do
What polish?
>tweak le ebic desktop
Debian just werks tho
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>>108686761
>>108686847

Actually make your desktop to your sense of nice aesthetics.

>Gnome
Lock and remove, argue the use case
>KDE
Krash DE sabotage
>Unix porn
Use the default floating window of some tiling manager, *fetch screenshot and post, how ricy
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>>108686792
>>108686829
It's a front end for apt.
>>108686572
Devuan is Debian but with some autist init.
>>108686367
sshfs isn't THAT much easier considering creating an user account and transferring over the keys and setting up fstab
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>>108680402
Is there a way to fix shader problems in 3d unity games? It needs 55 shaders but apparently my wine only has 32.
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>>108686885
Nothing out of the ordinary shown in the logs. When i click on any of the regular icons like clipboard, audio, network etc the shell locks up, one of the CPU cores gets pegged at 100% for a few minutes then suddenly it frees up and behaves okay again. I can freely click on the icons without issue. Nothing appears in the logs for this whole process and restarting plasmashell and clicking on any of the tray icons makes the same thing happen all over again. Fucking bizarre.
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>>108681617
>>108681678
UBUNTU
Good:
- Wallpaper
- Fonts
Bad:
- Everything else?
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>>108681678
>>108687011
I replace that with something of my liking anyway, who cares about distro wallpapers?
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>>108687011
Ubuntu is best as a backend for other distros. And that raccoon wallpaper is top cute if anything.
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any reason to be using opensuse?
slowroll,tumbleweed,leap,server, whatever.
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>>108681875
Old gnome gtk2 Ubuntu up to like 8.04, or around that time, peak imo.
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>>108686572
>because if there isn't a distro that does polish like Mint does, I'll probably just go back to Mint
Just about any distro is more polished than Mint. Mint is so ass past 2020
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>>108686096
Performance sucks though.
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>>108686984 (Me)
Never mind I fixed it.
Just had to do
winetricks dxvk
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>>108687055
I used Mint like, a year or two ago, and so far its the most polished thing I've used, though I am on Xubuntu right now, was thinking about test driving Devuan or Bazzite for next year but I find arch systems intimidating because I've been in the Deb-Ubu ecosystem for a while now and I feel like I should try Debian at least since its the foundation for the ecosystem I'm in.
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Is fedora the only distro that isn't a fork, not a hassle, and not run by insane trannies?
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>>108687184
>not run by insane trannies
No such thing exists. The Linux kernel is run by insane trannies and so is a lot of open source software you'd use.
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>install gentoo wiki recommends swayimg for an image viewing program
>install it
>doesn't work
Fooled again!
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>>108687261
>listening to a wiki made by some random socially disconnected neckbeard
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>>108687261
how did you fuck up something like swayimg?
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>>108687287
I apt installed it, I typed "swayimg" in terminal and it didn't work so I thought that maybe I needed to select an image so I typed "swayimg picture.png" and it also didn't work so I just uninstalled it and stayed with gThumb.
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>>108687303
let me guess, you're on X11?
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>>108687353
I'm on Xubuntu, but I'm not using sway which might be the problem.
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>>108687365
Swayimg is a program written for wlroots Wayland compositors (but it'll run on any Wayland compositor). It's not going to work in your shitty Xfeces environment with X11.
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>>108687371
>X11
I'm not on X11, what's your obsession with it? And I do have Sway installed I just haven't gone through the tutorial on how to use it and switch over yet.
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>>108680402
Why are there people calling Hyprland nazis again?
Also
>Ubuntu 26.04 releases with Rust in kernel
>Apparently the security flaws are so bad that they actually had to privately contract a security research firm to study it
>"It's a massive security risk but we don't actually know how bad it is, it could be worse."
I kinda like the older caveman linux systems, they don't have this problem and in a world where having a massive security flaw open for a week could mean all the difference between getting data mined or not, that's fucking terrifying.
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>>108687388
You either have found a hole in the dependencies of swayimg on debian/ubuntu or you are using it wrong. Chances are you are, indeed, on X11. post a neofetch or soemthing so we can laugh at you.
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>>108687472
>you are using it wrong
Probably, maybe I should do "swayimg help" and see if anything comes up. Here is my neofetch btw, I'm not on X11
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To the 9070xt owners, generally what is considered the wall in terms of clock speed
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>>108687488
You are running Xfce on a Xubuntu which means you are running on X11
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>>108687412
>Why are there people calling Hyprland nazis again?
It's Saturday
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>>108680402
How do you find a package that you forgot the name of that's already installed on your system?
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>>108687412
Rust has been in the kernel for a while now, what kind of stupid security flaw are you even tlaking about and why do you think it's related?
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>>108687529
They rewrote the utilities and basically shipped it only to later find 60 security flaws in 1 day's worth of work.
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>>108687513
Oh, I actually didn't know it was called X11 all of a sudden Xorg makes sense now, I'm used to people just calling it a tradition/layered window system.
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>>108687543
that's coreutils, not kernel.
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>>108687564
What makes you think that there might not be security flaws in the kernel? Wasn't there one found recently?
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>>108687555
Xorg was the only remaining implementation for the X11 window system for a long time, until Xlibre forked off last year.
Anyway, swayimg not working is not really its fault here. Unless you start a wayland compositor inside your X11 session (I really wouldn't do that for an imageviewer as there are plenty of other options not needing that) or switch DE it won't work.
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uuuughh release m'lady *tips fedora* 44 already
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>>108687601
There are dozens of security flaws found in the kernel like every week. It's not really related to a specific language though, and if that causes you to not be able to sleep at night you can't use computers these days. Kernel CVEs are nuts.
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>>108687603
I'm switching to Sway at some point, I also like how I can run an emulation of sway within X11, all I need to do is sit down and to the tutorial for it.
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>>108687639
well, then you can come back to it after you switch or get it running within X11
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so i tried distro that's supposed to just work (mint) with gpu that's also supposed to just work (amd)
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>>108687731
next you're going to tell me you got a really new amd that may want a newer kernel than the shit shat mint ships.
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>>108687776
not really it's rx7600. kernel 6.17
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>>108687865
well, that should work quite well actually.
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>>108687731
Update linux-firmware from git. That SMU crap is the firmware on the GPU, nothing to do with Linux.
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>>108687731
Anyone telling you to use Mint is a boomer
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>>108687731
Mint only works if your hardware is at least 4 years old.
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>>108686545
>want 'just works' out of the box
Ubuntu
>want to tweak and customize
Debian
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>>108687900
>That SMU crap
that's just the gpu recovery, amdgpu shitting itself earlier is the problem.
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>>108687900
games seem to work without crashing, thanks. retards on reddit told me that mesa update is all i need
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>>108688112
Everyone always forgets about the firmware. Ubuntu (and by extension Mint) never updates that even though AMD occasionally uploads new firmware all the time.
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>>108688082
Not true. Mint is based on Ubuntu 24.04 with HWE so it has the 6.17 kernel, released on september 2025, i.e. 8 months ago. So any hardware released before that should work without issues on Mint.
I don't know where this "Mint only works with old hardware"" myth comes from.
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>move my old desktop linux installation to lvm and to efi
>literally routine thing I do for zfs
>all the fancy modern desktop linux utilities stop working
A well spent day.
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>>108686545
better for what, exactly? both are great but it depends on who you ask. For normies then Ubuntu would be the best, for experienced users and nerds then Debian.
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>>108688124
And for a good reason. Constant firmware updates tend to break stuff. It's better to use a stable fixed version and only update if the user runs into a problem.
>>108688112
sad how reddit is a better source of help nowadays while 4chin is just an abysmal shitpost cesspool.
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>>108688189
>Constant firmware updates tend to break stuff
Well they fix stuff too. Better to give people the choice of having the updates but with the ability to roll them back if they break in my opinion.
This is why immutable distributions are definitely the future. Just ship the new shit and if the entire house burns on fire and falls apart then you still have that old image to fall back on.
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>>108688137
>"Mint only works with old hardware"" myth
Lol try using your HDR monitor on Mint
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>>108688476
Ah yes the "muh VRR HDR" guess we'll have to wait until christmas to see if Wayland is finally usable by then. It will surely be finished by the end of the year, right? We won't have to eternally beta test like every other distro does, right???
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I want to use hardware backed encryption, apparently the Kubuntu installer doesn't offer it...
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>>108688576
regular ubuntu does
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>>108688597
Yes that is my complaint.
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Why does internet connectivity on KDE VMs have to be such trash?
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>>108687625
they're going to delay it again just for you
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>>108688636
wtf? they're just qemu extensions kek
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>>108688137
>any hardware released before that should work without issues
>should
Yeah, "should". But just because a kernel is released in September 2025 doesn't mean it supports hardware released the month before that. It takes time for drivers to be pushed into the kernel and it takes time for issues to be ironed out.
>I don't know where this "Mint only works with old hardware"" myth comes from.
September 2025 was almost a year ago.

>>108688189
>sad how reddit is a better source of help
They didn't help him. They probably told him to add a 3rd party mesa PPA which will inevitably break his distro in the future. Actual help would be telling him to just use Bazzite or CachyOS.
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Been out of it for a while, so there is 'Winboat' now?
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>>108688736
>Telling someone to use Arch
>Helping
No
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>>108688554
Ironically, Mint users are using the beta quality test version because all the fixes that go into GNOME Mutter never make it into Muffin (Cinnamon's fork of GNOME's compositor).
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Usecase for Linux Mint?
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>>108688742
it's basically a systemd service that starts a container running qemu at boot so you can rdp stuff at request
it's useful but iirc nothing that couldn't be done before
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>>108688880
General purpose machine and your new to linux.
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>>108688636
>>108688724
I mean, I boot up the VM, I get "limited connectivity". Restarting the NetworkManager service doesn't help. Sometimes all it takes is rebooting the VM, then when I still get "limited connectivity", I restart the NetworkManager service and NOW it works.

What the fuck
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>>108686792
Synaptic package manager is a gui frontend for apt.
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>>108688795
>CachyOS
>Arch
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>>108688476
HDR is placebo snakeoil that only works on a limited number of things like modern slop games and modern tv slop
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>>108688880
it's a distro for circle-jerking redditors who started using linux between 2012-2020 and still use the same computer they did back then
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>>108689064
based and anticonsumerist
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>>108689052
Reverse tone-mapping is a thing and Mpv can do it. It's possible to tone-map SDR videos into HDR colour space which can make them look better because of the wider colour gamut.
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>>108687731
I don't get how this happens, i've used mint with an rx580 and never run into any of these issues.
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>>108689064
But enough about ublue/aurora/bazzite/android.
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>>108689169
That's a 10 year old GPU and you've just confirmed this to be true lmao >>108689064
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>>108689043
Catchy is okay for someone who has never used an Arch-based system before, there's also Bazzite that's good for gaymin, and there's always trust Mint for stability and an "all around" pc.
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>>108689183
Oh so you're just an illiterate retard who can't read and is trying to ragebait?
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Even though it's way better than AMD's windows drivers, amdgpu is quite problematic with certain GPUs and they have been introducing quite a lot of regressions lately. mainline kernel broke resume from suspend for me (as in driver crashing and not recovering) and remained broken for a good chunk of 2025, meanwhile LTS worked just fine, only very recently they patched it up
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I love the feeling of accomplishment after I figure out which trannyware update broke my pc, pull an old ebuild out, roll it back, lock it at that version, then I'm back like nothing happened. This time it was a systemd-utils update that doesn't seem to work with 4.19 kernel. Can't get this feeling on windows or mac.
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>>108689214
Thanks, Chris Titus Tech, I've seen the video.
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>>108689321
is that supposed to be a good feeling?
i use debian stable(tm) to avoid these forced beta testing human experiments
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>>108689052
>You don't need that
Classic.
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>>108689321
>4.19 kernel
Brother.
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Seems like over the past 20 years, desktop UI across the board have been doing UI elements bigger and bigger due to the increase of pixels per inch in computer monitors

What are some desktop environments that are less "wasteful" with screen space, for a better use of small screen resolutions?
Or should i just tweak cinnamon?
I can reduce the taskbar height but other programs UI still seems pretty big
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>>108689435
Yeah, I watched it today, its an okay video it kinda convinced me to try out Bazzite.
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>>108685260
Another anon already mentioned it but yeah using
-c copy
to avoid reencoding the video is very useful. Both because it doesn't cause a loss of quality but also because many operations are almost instant because of it. I also use -an a lot to make videos that can be posted here
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>>108689564
you aren't going to the answer but its most likely gnome or xfce if you are looking for minmalistic, simple, and out of your way. xfce is highly customizable and you can make it look pretty so don't let the default setting scare you off if its ugly. It's also very modular.
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>>108689564
>What are some desktop environments that are less "wasteful" with screen space, for a better use of small screen resolutions?
Just lower the scaling factor
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>>108689595
That's not a picture of his screen that's a picture of ubuntu back when it was 9.something.
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>>108689564
emacs
i3 + terminal apps
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>>108689620
>i3
It's 2026.
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>>108680402
after 2 years on arch/kde i am looking to distrohop into something new. i am thinking lxqt or hyprland or popos. what /fglt/ you recommend? no fedora or fedora based anything thank you
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>>108689448
I personally have fun with it and I've learned a lot about how things work over the years by putting myself through it. I used to have to nuke a system and reinstall from scratch whenever something mildly complex broke, but now I don't think there's anything I can't recover from. And breakages like this are pretty rare, usually the system is rock solid and could have infinite uptime if not for nvidia.
I should point out the problem isn't really gentoo, it's me trying to stick to an older kernel and pre-rust software as much as I can. Being chud is hard life.
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>>108689705
SXWM then.
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>>108689705
Sway
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>>108685482
this could be useful, thanks
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>>108689321
The fuck are you still using 4.19 for? The LTS is even 6.16 I think.
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>>108689705
i3 is old but gold, surprisingly not deprecated like d3 or deh or w/e its called.
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>>108685482
>ffmpeg
Female to Female Male P(r)egnancy, so inclusive! :^)
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>>108689881
Probably anti-update gang, a lot of windows people are also very against updating as well apparently, seems like we are entering the climax of the enshitiffication era where the only people who update their pcs are corporations.
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Fedora 44 is unofficially released already. How smoothly this transaction goes will solely determine whether or not I stick with point release distros or move to rolling release. So long and thanks for all the fish
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>>108680402
ADHD friendly linux stuff so I can be productive?
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Is there a good post install script on arch?
Like basics vlc/browser/steam etc.

Also if my laptop has amd igpu and discrete NVIDIA - which drivers should i choose in archinstall? As i understood - nvidia proprietary, cause igpu will work from kernel.
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>>108690060
Arch comes with that I'm pretty sure when you install, why did you skip it?
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>>108685609
obsidian uses markdown by default
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>>108690060
linux-firmware will install all drivers anyway
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>>108690004
Lol, has to be old the device or something specific.
But i do agree, most updates are meant to shit on system, not flush out the bugs and what not.
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>>108685482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kaIXkImCAM
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>>108689983
It's good, and I used it myself. 10 years ago.
X.org is over.
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>>108690010
It worked perfectly, even gnome extensions still work after disabling version checking.
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Any cool icon themes for a dark overall theme but with yellow folders?
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an excerpt from an nmap scan of my own network, IP, and machine I just made with
$ nmap -v [ip]

Completed Connect Scan at 21:00, 0.01s elapsed (1000 total ports)
Nmap scan report for user (ip)
Host is up (0.000028s latency).
All 1000 scanned ports on user (ip) are in ignored states.
Not shown: 1000 closed tcp ports (conn-refused)

So it didn't see the ports as closed but ignored scanning them anyway. Why? I am not saying they should appear closed, but am curious what state they are in to be ignored, or is that just my scan and may not be what others see if they scan for my IP?
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Why won't wayland-tards implement lanczos filtering after the upscaling/downscaling of the desktop instead of SHITTY bicubic
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>>108691073
OK, so I now realize I misread and they actually are labelled as closed. Does different versions of nmap or my distro have anything to do with why the closed port is written as "ignored" or is it stemming from a different way of having been closed? Pretty sure I created this state with an ip table policy
> $ sudo iptables -L -v --line-numbers

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
num pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
>ufw: inactive
>do not have firewalld
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>>108686908
>Ubuntu
Dunno, I'm still torn. But probably.
>>108686937
>polish
Font rendering, font substitution, audio config/firmware/amplification, specific power management services, etc. Just a bunch of little things that add up.
>Debian
True, and historically I have spent way more time on Debian than Ubuntu. I must be getting old.
>>108688089
I guess that decides it, then.
>>108688155
>better for what
A daily driver desktop/laptop.
>for experienced users and nerds then Debian
I'm experienced in Linux, but it's still a pain to research and tweak stuff that just works on Windows.
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after 5 years of use i switched from pure arch to cachy
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>>108691265
>Switched from Arch to Arch
Sasuga IShowSpeed watcher
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For some reason I can't see my USB drive on BIOS, it says null-string.
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fedora or opensuse?
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>>108691545
Fedora is more popular/supported
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>>108691602
thx
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Has anyone else tried Overlayroot in Ubuntu 26.04? It looks like they tried to port it to Dracut by just having Dracut use Initramfs-tools but it doesn't work for me on an otherwise fresh install.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I tried setting it just like it used to work in the previous version (install package, edit /etc/overlayfs.conf, reboot).
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>>108691683
I meant
>/etc/overlayroot.conf
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Anybody a theme wiz? Pretty much everything on my system is in dark mode except the file chooser that Firefox opens, which is apparently the Gnome one (yes, Firefox itself is dark). I've always just lived with it, but the sheer untouchability of it is like a taunt to my face every time I save a file.
I'm using Arch, Wayland (via Sway), and with no DE. The Mozilla dark theme set up on Firefox, which isn't a flatpak or anything. For both GTK 3 and 4, I have settings.ini with "gtk-theme=Adwaita-dark" and "gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=true". My .bash_profile exports "GTK_THEME=Adwaita:dark". I have xdg-desktop-portal and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.
Even a point to more places to look or ways to debug this would be great.
>>108690060
What do you mean by "script"? The Arch wiki has general recommendations for places to start customizing your environment, post-install, here, and laptop stuff as well:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/General_recommendations
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop
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Is there an equivalent of foot terminal for xorg? I just need to be able to scale the text dynamically without it eating +150mb of ram for each instance of the terminal + GPU, plus font fallbacks for the missing glyphs
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>>108691836
does kitty not work?
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>>108691868
Im fleeing from kitty, actually. I tend to run a bunch of cli programs so it adds up.
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>try blur on
>idle gpu temp rises 4c up
why do reddit fell for this meme?
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>>108691868
>without it eating +150mb of ram for each instance of the terminal
>kitty
choose one and only one
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>>108691836
st? iirc it's somewhat of a xorg's equivalent to foot.
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>>108691836
Have you tried running Foot in server mode? Or while looking for xorg terminals, looking for something with a single instance or server mode might be good to keep in mind.
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>>108691836
st is basically what you want. And for glyphs you can always just install noto-fonts or use a terminal nerd font like ttf-jetbrains-mono-nerd.
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How is st like foot?
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>>108692503
>Simple as fuck
>Very customizable via config/building
>Uses basically no resources
I mean if you don't wanna deal with it you could always use like Luke Smith's version of st that he hosts.
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what's a popular way to spin down idle hdd's in alpine or other similar basic linux system?
have a thin client with an external hdd attached which i want to use as an extremely low power server with occasional hdd use, and it doesn't spin down automatically ootb, so just having the hdd on doubles its' power draw
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>>108683978
How it's going:
Compiz runs, the effects work, but framerate is poor and there's tearing out the ass (expected for anything running on X I guess)
The border looks almost right, but the font color is wrong, the corners are wrong and the buttons are not handled correctly (difficult to click)
The panel applets shipped with MATE behave differently (see the show desktop button and workspace switcher). The session indicator is missing altogether. Also no shadow on the panels.
MATE uses GTK3 now and the murrine theme engine never got ported to it so UI elements lack the glossy look.
Buttons have icons regardless of setting.
Some apps shipped with MATE use wrong icons.
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>>108691184
Then just get Ubuntu. If for some reason you really don't like it then go with Debian.
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>>108692543
>framerate is poor and there's tearing out the ass (expected for anything running on X I guess)
didn't you say before that it's a vm? i might be mistaken as i'm not really following all your posts.
if it's a VM or otherwise has no accelerated video driver, then you could expect this from something like compiz, as the opengl will need to be software rendered instead, and vsync as far as i've ever seen won't work with software rendering (as that requires feedback from a gpu, which without a gpu driver that wouldn't work)
there maybe be a VM virtual gpu of some kind that can make at least compiz work more smoothly
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>>108680402
I'm toying around and educating myself with an old laptop, and i'm trying to install a modern-ish distro on it to see if i can, but am coming up on a roadblock of it using a 25 year old nvidia gpu chipset. Would modern nvidia/nouveau linux drivers work on something this old?
it's a Geforce2 Go, not sure if it may have gotten scrubbed or if there's a particular driver required for this thing. I can only get it to boot in nomodeset because of it.
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>>108692560
I'm running ubuntu 9.10 (as reference) in a VM as I have no hardware that can run something so old. The MATE desktop I'm theming is on an old laptop (intel HD520 graphics)

Speaking of virtual gpus I booted fedora MATE, which ships with compiz on a VM with virtio gpu, the opengl 3d acceleration actually worked but when I started compiz it basically hung the whole desktop lol. So close.
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>>108692563
nouveau has at least at some point supported that card, whether anybody is actively making sure that support isn't broken is another story however. also even if it does, how many modern applications can use an opengl 1.2 card for anything is yet another story. though just having basic X11 support would certainly be nicer than being stuck with vesa i suppose
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>>108692563
>Would modern nvidia drivers work
hell no
>nouveau
maybe

Besides noveau, you could try nvidia legacy drivers. You'd have to look up if they support your card. Note that a lot of modern software wants to use stuff like vulkan which that old thing won't support surely.
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>>108692590
suppose a driver roll back may be in order? I came across some ubuntu forum posts from around 2010 where people were saying that the nouveau drovers worked better than nvidia supplied drivers, unsurprisingly.

>>108692600
time to dig
unfortunately google is ass now, so finding nvidia legacy drivers and their supported cards is taking some digging. I know many modern programs wouldn't work, but i do stupid shit on my old systems.
Ran cinebench on a netbook from 2011 running windows 10 to see just HOW bad it'd be. spoiler alert; one pass took almost 8 hours and the score was in double digits. at least 12x slower than a single core of my ryzen cpu.
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I keep loosing memory each time I run zypper up I am down another ~10gb from the last week and it doesn't seem to reclaim. Is that because of btrfs snapshots or something else? Also chatgpt/gemini insist I should run sudo btrfs balance start -dusage=50 / which seems quite pointless. Any idea why .snapshot is so huge?
    #  Type    Pre #  Date                              User  Cleanup  Description             Userdata
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
0 single root current
2735* single Tue 20 Jan 2026 12:15:22 AM CET root writable copy of #2727
2781 pre Fri 24 Apr 2026 10:45:10 AM CEST root number zypp(zypper) important=yes
2782 post 2781 Fri 24 Apr 2026 11:43:47 AM CEST root number important=yes
2783 pre Fri 24 Apr 2026 12:00:03 PM CEST root number zypp(zypper) important=yes
2784 post 2783 Fri 24 Apr 2026 12:01:49 PM CEST root number important=yes
2787 pre Sat 25 Apr 2026 02:57:13 PM CEST root number zypp(zypper) important=no
2788 post 2787 Sat 25 Apr 2026 02:58:26 PM CEST root number important=no

10G ── var 2%
40G ── usr 7%
253G ── .snapshots 42%
299G ── home 49%
605G ─ / 100%
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Anything I can buy to run Linux on that's small and efficient like a Mac Mini?
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>>108692600
>nvidia legacy drivers
anon that is a geforce 2 go. the last nvidia proprietary driver to support that is the 96.43.xx legacy serious. yes, "96". you aren't using this on a distro newer than 15 years old
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/21935/
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>>108692613
there are tons of cheap mini pcs. Well, maybe not that cheap anymore.
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>>108692618
yeah, it didn't click to me that geforce 2 go was really a geforce 2. Damn, that's old.
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>>108692650
yea, not to be confused with 2000, 200, or 20. 2. like the second one. i used to own one so there was no confusion for me
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>>108692640
Yeah I owned one and it was loud as fuck.
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>>108692670
I was thinking more of coffee 2 go and just a fancy marketing name for laptop gpus.
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>>108692676
lol fair enough. the "go" is actually the laptop version so you're not far off. just yea the 2 is a 2, not a "to"
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>>108692563
nouveau works fine on my old 6150se, I'd assume geforce 2 go is covered too
>I can only get it to boot in nomodeset because of it
try forcing it with nouveau.modeset=1, if it fails check the logs
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>>108692610
>Any idea why .snapshot is so huge?
Size of the snapshot != Size of the snapshot on disk. What's the size of the individual snapshots and how much do they differ?
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>>108692691
the 6150se is 4 years newer, but i've seen forum posts suggesting the 2 go has worked at least at some point, like one from 2014 regarding an issue that was fixed during that thread. i don't believe nouveau has ever removed any cards from support, however that doesn't mean they can't be accidentally broken. i'd bet zero nouveau devs own a 2 go to test on, though i'm sure they'd be happy to accept patches to fix it if it's not working, too
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would noveau work on my nvidia riva tnt2 model 64?
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>>108692718
the tnt/tnt2 are the oldest cards not explicitly listed as unsupported by nouveau, so "maybe"
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>>108692718
>>108692722
also their website doesn't maintain a list of supported cards, as there are too many to regularly test.

https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/CodeNames.html
>Be aware that this list may be outdated and incomplete. Nouveau aims to support all NVIDIA cards, but no effort is made to document which cards (and BIOSes) actually work, as this is deemed infeasible. Just try it and submit bug reports if it doesn't work.

best bet is to look for forum posts or similar to find someone who has actually used that specific card
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>>108692718
it appears so
https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/CodeNames.html
but as >>108692716 said, there's no telling if they may have broken something
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>>108686545
Both. Partition your drive as follows
>EFI system partition (if an EFI PC)
>20GB partition for Ubuntu
>20GB partition for Debian
>rest of the drive for /mnt/anime
Whichever 20GB partition is left unused can be used for Arch or Gentoo later on. (remember to host Gentoo's compilation cache under /mnt/anime as 20GB may not be enough)

>>108692613
ARM junk such as Raspberry Pi

>>108691504
Humor me and take the drive out, power off the PC. Then power it back on, enter BIOS, stick the USB drive in and reboot without powering off.
Idea being the drive gets sticked in when the system is running.
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>>108692675
>I owned one and it was loud as fuck.
That's what happens when you strangle a PC to death in a tiny box.
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>>108692832
Apple pulls it off though.
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>>108692613
find yourself a used SFF desktop, like a little lenovo or dell system. Dirt cheap on ebay and easier to work on than the shitty little chinesium boxes
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>>108692835
They probably thermal throttle them since they're using a mobile SOC. They'll probably never run hot enough for the fans to run full blast.

On Linux, you can use things like thermald (for Intel CPUs anyway) to make it stick within a particular thermal budget. You'll only ever hear the fans then if they're cheap budget crap that are noisy (just replace them with good fans).
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>>108692675
We have like 8 of them at work but they aren't loud at all
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AMD still the go-to for graphics cards?
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>>108692850
>They probably thermal throttle them
they don't, unless you put a sustained load on a passively cooled cpu (macbook air). but even still, the actively cooled ones barely make any noise
t. uses a macbook pro and an intel linux pc
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>>108692951
Pretty much, if you care about the good FOSS drivers.

The FOSS NVIDIA drivers are getting better though:
https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-70-nouveau/3

Still nowhere near as good as AMD though.
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>>108688880

It just werks, is easy to install and doesn't require regular updates to not break.

I have it on my old desktop at my parents' place and it's comfy.
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I noticed arch uses 1500 as mtu by default which carries over in the final install. It seems git doesn't like that and forces me to set 1400 instead for git clone to work. Why is 1500 the default? Is this a standard for the US?
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I'm trying to get virtual box to work in Linux Mint, and in order to do so I need to sign a few drivers myself that are listed in this guide:
https://linuxvox.com/blog/sign-virtual-box-modules-vboxdrv-vboxnetflt-vboxnetadp-vboxpci-centos-8/
are there any red flags in this guide that I should be concerned about?
I don't really like entering commands into my terminal under sudo I'm not familiar with.
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>>108693182
i just did a git clone a minute ago and my interfaces are 1500 mtu
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>>108693182
it's a standard like fucking everywhere and your DHCP server should tell devices the network mtu anyway. git does not need 1400 mtu, your network is borked somewhere if it does for you. Why are you git cloning while using the iso anyway?
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>>108693208
I never had to change mtu value either. Maybe it's a VM quirk? I am doing an install with qemu. I've done this multiple times and had to change mtu value each time for git clone to not freeze
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>>108693214
No, I git clone after. Just saying that the value carries over from the live iso. I am doing another install right now. Might paste the debug logs for the heck of it
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>>108693182
You probably fucked up path mtu discovery by blocking icmp or something.
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>>108691836
xterm, urxvt, or st?
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>>108691705
For some reason those gtk settings config files dont get used on wayland and you have to use a hacky script
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/GTK-3-settings-on-Wayland
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>>108692951
The intel ones probably work fine too.
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>>108693188
You should just use virt-manager instead of virtualbox
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>>108688476
How much new hardware even has HDR? Because that's not old vs new then. It's more about HDR specifically, and if you have a screen that doesn't have it or you don't even know if it does because you don't utilize it then it's a non-issue (for this hypothetical person)
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>>108693349
Pretty much every monitor you can buy today comes with at least HDR10. HDR10 is not real HDR (VESA doesn't require it to meet any standards it just means the monitor is capable of displaying it) so quality varies widely but pretty much anything you can buy today will have that as a minimum baseline for what every other monitor has and needs to have.

Your monitor is really scraping the bottom of the barrel if it doesn't at least support HDR10.
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>>108693349
My monitor has hdr and i don't use it.
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>>108691964
Yeah I never understood the point of a bloated terminal. I just have foot --server running on login and open a bunch of foot clients. It takes almost no ram. Same with emacs. Works really well with something like Niri where you can end up opening a gorillian versions that you forget about because workspace 4 has 30 open windows and you're working on workspace 7.
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>>108693296
nota
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>>108693357
I'm not sure if my 2 years old monitor even has that.
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>>108693349
HDR is still probably 10-20 years away from any kind of mass adoption. There's no proper standards for this stuff and the manufacturers cheat with specs
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>>108693349
>How much new hardware even has HDR?
Any monitor made in the past 8 years
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>>108693428
There are proper standards. The only standard to steer clear of (if you care) is HDR10.
If your monitor manufacturer doesn't even market that it can meet HDR at a specific peek brightness then it's probably garbage, although doesn't mean it won't work at all, just it's not certified to any specific quality metric.
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>>108693438
Mine doesn't and it's not that old
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>>108693452
Yeah, if you bought le Amazon Basics "Recommended" monitor for $9.99 it's not going to do HDR. Anything half-decent will though.
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>>108693459
It was 200 and supports the hot shit like VRR.
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>>108693476
If you bought some esports trash then yes, that's still quite common because FPS don't care about shit like HDR.

Almost every monitor has VRR now too, that's not new hot shit anymore.
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>>108693428
HDR has been standard for media since like 2017, with UHD BD and TVs supporting it. Pretty much any TV will do HDR today.
It's not too complicated either there are basically 3 formats in use HDR10 HDR10+ and DV.
Actual display performance varies but that's always been the case with displays.
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>>108693497
So, now we went from any to not cheap shit to not gaming focused shit?
And even if each and any monitor sold today would support it, it would still take years before people would have to replace thier current monitors that don't support it.
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Anyone using the cachyos kernel here? Did you have to use their repo for that? I am following the documentation
>https://github.com/CachyOS/linux-cachyos#manual-installation
but then pacman starts asking me to choose between the stock repo and the cachyos repo for every package. I only care about the kernel. I tried looking for flags I could use in pacman.conf but there is no repo-specific whitelist. Should I install the kernel manually with an hardcoded command referencing a specific package or just give up? They even try pushing a custom pacman on me for this and I feel like this is getting more and more uncomfortable
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>>108693529
To be clear, if you buy the cheapest budget $200 gaming monitor it may not support it. This is because they're looking to pinch every cent and penny they can.

Meanwhile, even my Chink portable monitor that costs significantly less than that has both HDR and VRR. This is because China (please bless my social credit score) doesn't care about penny pinching even if it's not the best.
Is it a good implementation? Hell no, and in fact VRR specifically is an unusable flicker fest but since this is only 60Hz it doesn't matter anyway, I leave it off. Although its colours are fucked in SDR so I actually do use HDR with it, although with a manual tweak to set the peek brightness right in KWin's settings because this is a Chinese monitor, its EDID is fucked.
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>>108693559
So, my monitor is better than yours, what's your point? HDR wasn't something I cared about when I bought it, just as I didn't care about stuff like 4k resolution. In the hopefully distant future when I have to replace one of my monitors I might care about getting hdr to try it out, but until then I'm fine without it.
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>>108693602
The point is my monitor is cheaper than yours and it still has HDR. There are loads of monitors just like this now, it doesn't matter if it's good or not (in my case HDR is actually better than the SDR mode so support for it is pretty much non-negotiable for me) it's becoming a standard feature. Your overclocked to hell budget esports monitor with smearing and ghosting everywhere is an outlier.
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>>108693622
>it doesn't matter if it's good or not
yes, it does, cause why would anybody get a piece of shit monitor just to have hdr?
It's becoming a standard feature sure, but for one, it's still not there yet, and two, again, even if it was it will still take years before all the monitors without it get replaced.
It is just not an universally avaiable feature yet.
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>>108693672
>why would anybody get a piece of shit monitor just to have hdr?
For the same reason anybody would get a piece of shit monitor with VRR.
It will never be universal because there will always be $200 overclocked crap with a TFT panel targeting a billion FPS. It can still get pretty damn close to universally supported though, to the point that even my cheap portable monitor has it. But yes, there will always be monitors that lack it, if that's your point then there's no fixing that. Just don't buy those monitors when you have alternatives.

Anyone that even remotely cares about visuals will spend a bit more and get it as standard even if they don't intend to use it all of the time it will be there when they play a HDR game or watch a HDR movie.
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>>108692543
I think I fixed tearing by forcing DRI2
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>haven't updated Fedora in a while
>sudo dnf update
>"Updating and loading repositories:"
>Nothing to do."
Brother, what do you mean there's nothing to do? I have an old version of Firefox.
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>>108694059
Are you on an older version of fedora?
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>>108694070
I'm on Fedora 43
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>>108693550
I haven't tried installing their kernel before, but I imagine you're either going to be forced to install a bunch of Cachy packages that will conflict with other Arch packages and then you just end up just needing to switch to Cachy-first, or you'll need to install the kernel in a more manual way and make sure you don't rape yourself when you update. Unless their kernel has the answer to a problem you need solved, I'd skip.
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>>108693182
pretty much everything has used 1500 for the entire history of the internet are you doing something weird for it to fail?
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>>108694126
Fair enough. This was starting to be a pain in the ass to maintain. Who gives a shit about 1% lows
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>>108686761
Having 2 bars is actually quite nice. Symmetrical. Works great on 16:10. And you can organize the top bar and bottom bar to do different things.
I use Niri + Dank Material Shell, so the top bar is the normal bar + some minor adjustments and the bottom bar is all open windows in the current workspace. That way I can easily see how much I have open, the order they are in, and quickly jump to specific windows. Technically I could use Alt-Tab, but I prefer that to either be global or based on application (ie switch between 2 firefox windows).
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>>108694152
PPPoE lowers that to 1492
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>>108693550
I just install their repos using the automated option on their site, install their kernel and the respective headers, and defer to packages from their repos
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>>108694152
This is my third or fourth clean install. Same issue
GIT_TRACE=1 GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
15:08:51.335606 git.c:502 trace: built-in: git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
Cloning into 'paru'...
15:08:51.362103 run-command.c:672 trace: run_command: git remote-https origin https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
15:08:51.362519 run-command.c:764 trace: start_command: /usr/lib/git-core/git remote-https origin https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
15:08:51.373136 git.c:809 trace: exec: git-remote-https origin https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
15:08:51.373600 run-command.c:672 trace: run_command: git-remote-https origin https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
15:08:51.373720 run-command.c:764 trace: start_command: /usr/lib/git-core/git-remote-https origin https://aur.archlinux.org/paru.git
15:08:51.422367 http.c:912 == Info: Could not find host aur.archlinux.org in the .netrc file; using defaults
15:08:51.442120 http.c:912 == Info: Host aur.archlinux.org:443 was resolved.
15:08:51.442317 http.c:912 == Info: IPv6: 2604:cac0:a104:d::2
15:08:51.442391 http.c:912 == Info: IPv4: 209.126.35.78
15:08:51.442659 http.c:912 == Info: Trying [2604:cac0:a104:d::2]:443...
15:08:51.443630 http.c:912 == Info: Immediate connect fail for 2604:cac0:a104:d::2: Network is unreachable
15:08:51.443938 http.c:912 == Info: Trying 209.126.35.78:443...
15:08:51.476507 http.c:912 == Info: ALPN: curl offers h2,http/1.1
15:08:51.479577 http.c:912 == Info: TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
15:08:51.480058 http.c:912 == Info: SSL Trust Anchors:
15:08:51.532388 http.c:912 == Info: CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt



It seems the handshake fails. MTU set at 1400 makes it work though
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>>108694375
>It seems the handshake fails.
where? Not in that log snippet

do a path mtu discovery
 traceroute -I -4 --mtu aur.archlinux.org
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>>108694454
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>want to use a different default terminal for when I do things like right click to open terminal in Nautilus
>need to dig into configs
>want to set up keyboard shortcuts to switch to workspaces above just 4
>need to dig into configs
>want to run an sh program without it using the terminal
>need to dig into configs
>want to be able to create files in my file manager
>have to dig into configs
>want to just add a .desktop entry for a portable program
>oh god oh fuck
Most of these aren't even obscure things to do I'm beginning to hate GNOME. If I have to dig into my system this much I should just use a window manager
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>>108694486
now that's not what I expected
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>>108694512
mind you this is all happening in a vm so I don't know the inner working of QEMU
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>>108694506
Anon GNOME sucks cock stop using it. Just use KDE and not fight your DE.
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>>108694522
You reach the server apparently with a mtu of 1500 just fine. And this is from inside the VM I assume, even if you have a lot of local hops there.
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>>108694552
thing is git clone just hangs and doesn't proceed. the moment I switch to 1400 it instantly starts pulling stuff
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>>108694558
there should not really be a difference.
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>>108694552
>>108694558
wait.. this fucking.. I just did a reboot and now it works.. weird
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>>108694506
GNOME is a copy of the Apple philosophy applied to free software, so customization isn't really something they care about, simplicity, minimalism, easy of use, and ubiquity is though so if you want to tinker and customize you might want to look into another WM or DE
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>>108694565
disregard this. I did a reboot and my ssh connection was killed so I cloned on my laptop instead of the vm. it keeps to hang on "Cloning into 'paru'.."
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>>108694579
it's just the aur that acts like this. cloning from github works
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>>108694593
works on my machineā„¢
Your problem keeps getting weirder now.
Sorry.
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>>108694622
I mean I could just swap to 1400 and call it a day. No problem. Also this is just a test before moving to bare metal so it should fix itself. I was just wondering why a VM would need a different MTU to reach that specific git repo
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I'm running mpv and I have to ask, is it normal for the volume on mpv to just be mute and unmute?
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>>108694631
and it finally outputted something
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>>108694637
elaborate. if you scroll on the video do you see the OSD with the volume bar going left and right?
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>>108694631
It really, really shouldn't. I have no idea what could cause this.
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>>108694637
No, there's always been a volume slider on the OSD
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>>108694642
yes
>>108694646
Oh so the sound icon on the bottom right bar is just the mute button? I'm so use to having them stacked into 1 widget so maybe that's why I'm confused.
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>>108694683
Pressing the volume horn mutes, but dragging the bar next to it changes the volume. You can also use a hotkey like most things to change the volume. I recommend reading the master manual on the website.
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>>108694711
I don't see a bar next to it but I will check out the manual.
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>>108694169
>all open windows in the current workspace
Does that widget show them in the proper order as they would show when you're moving between them with arrow keys? That's the only real reason i use i3.sway with tabbed layout.
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Nix isn't letting me rebuild with a flake because it's busy bitching about steam.pipe not being a supported format.
Only result that immediately showed up was some Reddit thread where nobody provided a real solution.
Am I going to have to manually rm that file each time I want to rebuild while incorporating flakes?
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>>108680402
Switch to Debian 13 when the release came out back in August. It's shite. Wish I had kept my Arch installation which I had on this PC since I got it from my brother in 2021. :(

Now I'm thinking of going back to Arch cause I'm testing all this local LLMs bs and Debian cuda is too old
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>>108694899
Yeah it's in the correct order. It'd be unusable for me otherwise. The dock feature does not put it in order unfortunately, but I prefer having a static bottom bar anyways.
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>>108680402
Hello frens, I'm using Fedora Gnu/Linux with GNOME and Wayland. I noticed that my FPS are capped to my monitors refreshrate. I enabled VRR and disable Vsync in games. I tried to run a Steam game with Gamescope and the FPS Cap isn't there.

Why is this happening? And would KDE Plasma fix that?
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>>108695201
yes
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>>108695201
GNOME is poop, yes. KDE is better for gaming, which is why the Steam Deck uses it underneath.
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>>108695201
KDE is -the- gaming DE these days. You should switch.
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>>108695205
>>108695209
>>108695213
Thanks anons. I even prefer KDE over GNOME and the only reason I'm on GNOME is because of my dual monitor setup. I get 7w idle on GNOME and 40w idle on KDE and Windows.

And do you actually know why excactly the FPS are capped to my monitors refreshrate on GN*ME?
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>>108695235
nvm... I got it working with ProtonGE +
>PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 MANGOHUD=1 %command%

So I guess it's a wine/proton/wayland issue.
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>>108694990
You might as well run the question through chatgpt or whichever ai chatbot of your choice
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>>108695069
>Debian cuda is too old
Just set up the NVIDIA CUDA repo
sudo apt-get install extrepo
sudo extrepo enable nvidia-cuda
sudo apt-get update

Then install nvidia-open (or cuda-driver if you have a Pascal card)
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>>108695235
>I get 7w idle on GNOME and 40w idle on KDE and Windows.
This is actually the same thing that was locking your framerate. GNOME downclocked your GPU.
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>system admin
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New thread:
>>108695668
>>108695668
>>108695668



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