>*intercepts your signup emails, the only reason you made an account*nothing personal goycattle
Just verify with goymail or your goy number
>>108682835you can verify the protonmail with any random disposable email
>>108682932>>108682846>just give us a doxxable email goy
>>108682835>protonhttps://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29063779https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/07/protonmail_hands_user_ip_address_police/https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/https://digdeeper.club/articles/email.xhtml#ProtonMailhttps://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=18327644021252219658
>>108682942based schizo worried about giving them wyb3i9+70bgtmvt76y4s@guerrillamail.com
>>108682956Proton is shit, but it's the least terrible of the email services that don't get filtered by everyone.
>>108682958Yes goyim, there is nothing to fear, live in the ecosystem, it is your fren ;)
>>108682835Is there a single fucking email service that ISN'T shit or spies on you?
>>108682968skill issue
>>108682975no >>108646462
>>108682835It's a honeypot
>>108682835I've managed to sign up and verify to things just fine, so clearly you have to be stubborn enough and then it lets you.
>>108682975Well yeah, small services like cock.li or pissmail. The problem is that their owners get terrorized by the authorities and inevitably, their gear WILL get seized. Also, you the domain will be blacklisted by like 90% of the modern web.
>>108682981>new email that tries to go against globohomo>is in a US satellite state>gets pozzed in 5-10 yearsmany such cases, especially the ones from gaymany
Things used to glow less
dude its hosted in SWITZERLAND. where the neutral banks are. its the same thing
>>108682958implying that will workimpyling they dont only take goymail or equivlalent emails
>>108682988he said isn't shitalso cock.li falls into NEETmail, the domain is useless for anything except edgy faggots online, might as well register NIGGERKIKE.cum and try to send mail from it
>>108683085there's a airmail.cc one retard
>>108683079it worked for me so not my problem
>>108682835All right, now tell me which of these isn't spying on you.Because good luck using most websites with memes like cock.li.
and what the fuck is the solution?>host your on email in a vps"uhhhh your vps provider is a honeypot">use baremetal for email"get all your emails rejected by every other service"there's no fucking winning here even this dumpster is monitored but before you say it...>skill issue
>>108683163There is none. Email is decentralized by design, so they jumped through hoops to make it de facto centralized.Even if you are willing to put up with the endless busywork of self-hosting in $CURRENT_DECADE you'll end up just forwarding to and from a goymail provider in order to have people actually receive your messages.
For me it's fast mail.
Why anyone would treat email any differently than USPS mail is beyond me.
What are the downsides of hosting your own email on a home server?
>>108683351potentially losing access to everything if you choose to tie accounts to emails hosted locally. that’s about it.
>>108682835
>>108682942>>108682932does mailinator over tor work?
>>108682835>no concrete argument against anything>no knowledge, intelligenceI will continue doing whatever I want to do and ignoring infantile permavirgins on the internet except to laugh at/mock them.Problem?
>>108682956>commit crimes>"oh my god, law enforcement arrested me and companies complied rather than be arrested themselves. how is this possible. oh my god. oh my god. oh my god. unacceptable. how did i wind up in this cell. my precious terabytes of child porn. i thought i was safe. i'm going to complain on the internet as soon as i get out. how could they do this to me."
>>108683351You'll never be able to communicate with anyone in a real business scenario. If you're a loner hobbyist who collects welfare this probably doesn't concern you. Good luck when you start interacting with actual real world companies and their networks start shitting bricks trying to contact yours because you're not on gmail or pm. >b-b-b-but s-s-skill ii-s-su-nah retard, the problem isn't whether you can set up a server right, it's whether all the noc monkeys that work for the corps can, and the answer is they can't, so good fucking luck ever acquiring a contract. If you want to interact with the normie world, you have to use normie email services.
>>108682942What is doxxable about a random disposable email, tard? I've got like 100 proton accounts, all verified with random 10 minute mail type things.
>>108682835Proton is ass
>>108683085I run a company with 50 employees and our work email is hosted at cock.li; with our own domain of course
>>108682932you should use a non disposable one in case they force you to erify it again in the future
>>108682975No. Email by it's very nature is insecure. I don't get why people have a meltdown over stuff like Proton not being impenetrable. It's email, it's should be used for signing up to websites and online shopping, not plotting an insurrection/terrorism attack or sharing CP. Anything that isn't Google/Microsoft data collection tier will suffice.
>>108684991Just because you're made of protons and you're ass, doesn't make all protons ass
>>108682835>haha free privacy focus email I will use it not for privacy but to create tons of dummy acounts to evade bans and spam websites in violation of their ToS>NOOOO you can't just ban me you're supposed to respect my privacy
>>108682835>>108682942just dont download CP. like how hard is it?
>>108682835I wont give 4chan my email, not because the nsa who hosts it has no detailed history of me, nor because I think I have any anonymity on the internet, nor buy a pass because it would support people who are bad.I do all of these things intentionally or unintentionally enough.I refuse to do these things because ultimately the service being offered is dogshit. paying to be elbow to elbow with bots and jeets filling up a discussion forum does not entice me. no amount of convenience is making that a payable service, either through collection and verification of data or through donation.
There is nothing wrong with using just Gmail unless you actively purchasing child porn or you are blackmailing women online.
>>108682975i2p postman
>>108682835Yeah, I'm sure that any truly anon email provider I could name is currently known to the feds but I'm not naming shit anyway. If you're too stupid to have a signup email thats actually secure and anonymous thats on you at this point.
proton is good enough, you retards arent doing crime over email are you?
after the sun expands into supernova and burns the earth, none of this will matter
>>108682835it works if you wait 15-20 minutes first after signup
>>108682975Posteo is pretty good!
E-mail is dumb. Mail should just be blobs of encrypted files posted on public servers. You use your cryptographic key to read the shit that's addressed to you.
>>108682975Complaining about email services spying on you is like complaining that the border agents can open any package or the postman can read your mail: it simply shows your ignorance
>>108685563>noOOOOOOOOOOO U CANT JUST BAN EVADE AND SPAM ON TRANNY SITESgo back
>>108682835the point of proton mail isnt to make you anonymous but to make the content of your mails unreadable you dumbfuck, stop using it for bomb threats and you'll be fine.
I love how every single proton shill always posts some variation of "well, yeah, they do spy on you, but if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear."
>>108682835When that happened to me, it was the moment I realized all the proton shills were full of shit. How is one's email private if they're checking every email anyway?
>>108687974and the alternative is?
>>108682988didn't know about cock.li gave me a laugh lol
Just buy some random jeet's account for pocket change crypto and only access it from an e-waste laptop that you never connect to your own wifi and don't cross contaminate it with your other personal accounts.Nobody is gonna waste hours and thousands of dollars trying to figure out who ban evaded snapchat to send a picture of a Weiner to their coworker lol
>>108687974i have nothing to hide, cia can have a blast seeing my tinder swipes and my dms to girls
You guys are all retarded. You can sign up on Tor browser and it doesn't ask for an email
>thread about using proton for its intended usecase, throwaway accounts>false flaggers bring up csam
>>108689109you're the retard, if you make a new account and send email from e.g. 4chan there, it will intercept the email from 4chan and not show you iti'm sure other sites toothe whole point of proton mail is for fake signups to ban evade and spam nigger or kike on websites
>>108687121has IDF connections
>>108683479nta, but don't companies self host their own mail? Like, I get that anon@anonscoolmail.com would probs get filtered, but surely management@nvidia.com or sales@pepsico.com are seen as legit
>>108688721MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS@FBI@CIA@MOSSAD
>>108691550they dont host email, they use a provider like micro$oft and just use their domain on top. proton also lets you use custom domains, you just need to change some dns settings
>>108691577I saw Gmail advertising that a while back, but I always assumed it was a recent invention, sad to hear this
>>108691563https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108659429/
>>108685640>you really think...? no, of course not. it's impossible for these retards.
>>108682975mailbox and tuta seem pretty good but they're german, if you are doing illegal shit they will comply with US LE
>>108686458i still can't believe we all got access to Jeffrey Epstein Emails, and not just limited to the glowies
>>108692122Tuta is usable but it's *weird*.
>>108693372yeah they use their own opensource implentation but you're forced to use their clients thats why I went with mailbox.org since you can just use Thunderbird with it and they offer PGP if you wanna larp as an epic hackerman
>>108682835i fucking hate proton mail for this, most of all because they keep it hidden until it becomes a problem. so people that signed up for their proton mail 8 years ago still recommend it without knowing how bad it is now.and they fucking dare advertising themselves as "le based privacy respector". fuck those shit heads.and the other trash email service mail.tutanota.com makes you wait 24hrs before being able to use it, and just deletes your account if you don't log in for 6 months (nice recovery mail, too bad you used Tuta Mail)internet has become so fucking gay and controlled that you can't even get throwaway emails (receive-only don't count). and nobody fucking dare say this is about spam because it isn't. spam filters aren't so bad that they need to prevent new emails from being created, it's just about preventing anonymity.if it's this bad already i can't imagine how bad it's going to get in 10 years.
>>108689907that is not proton’s usecase, retarded pedophile.
>>108693483good to know actually, I was gonna delete a bunch of protonmail accounts that got spammed to shit but I guess ill keep them if any new throways wouldnt even work
>>108685510if anyone who pulls this shit, you shouldnt be using their services
>>108693483there is no usecase for a throwaway email
>>108693483also: protonmail has an .onion but often you get "Too many usernames tested recently" when trying to sign up. like bitches yeah I'm on Tor, a thousand people will use the same exit node what do you expect when I'm using your .onion site? the fact that they block signups instead of putting the check behind a captcha is suspicious.>>108693658what a stupid thing to say, you're stupid.
>>108693483It is about spam. The only people who got into trouble that I heard of were registering multiple accounts on the same website using different emails.The internet is 50% bots spammers and scammers if they allow this kind of thing they'll get blacklisted like guerillamail and the likes and all their legitimate users will get fucked.It's a pity that all websites require an email now and it's a pity that having a valid email address has become a proxy for being a real person but none of that is proton's fault.
>>108693716i said nobody fucking dare say this is about spam. it's not about spam you gullible idiot. internet traffic today is 95% video, nobody cares about a few petabytes of email spam.
>>108682835>>108682846I just signed up for an account to see if there's any way to verify my account BEFORE they intercept my mail but nope, they really do hide that from you so they can keep the signup mail hostage.
>>108693705there is quite literally no usecaseif you dont trust the site you’re on you shouldn’t be entering email detailsif you do but dont want repeated emails, you can block the sender or unsubscribe. there is no use case
>>108693797you're stupid and you write like a fag
>>108693802>zero refutationas expected from a pedophile
>>108693818there's no reason to respond to what a stupid person says.
>>108693825Your opinion on whether my intelligence meets the arbitrary standards you impose on a pseudo-anonymous imageboard bears absolutely no weight in the discussion. A point has been made and you have been incapable of refuting it. Therefore, you lose. This is how discourse works.
>>108693834Idiot.>>108693716>>108693764If spam was really a concern they could just limit outgoing emails to X per minute on free accounts. First email you send adds 30 sec cooldown, second 60 sec, third 120 sec etc. Every day the cooldown halves (minimum 30). Adjust as necessary depending on how much "spammers" would use protonmail (they wouldn't). I bet they already have a limit anyway.
>>108693877>Continues with the adhom after being completely BTFO
>>108682988elektrine
>>108694035replied to the wrong post but anyway i made that... itll probably be around for a long time since i use it myself... you can also encrypt your mailbox client sideonly requires username + password
>>108683386>>>/k/ope
>>108693764>>108693877Spam as in, automatically registering thousands of emails and using them to register thousands of accounts on some forum or social media platform to post porn ads or whatever.Mail spam I haven't received in the last 15 years so it's a solved problem as far as I'm concerned.
>>108682956>oh no a corporation is complying with legitimate orders from law enforcementKill yourself
>>108694087whatever you say, glownigger
>>108682971You are retarded.
>>108694096Sorry they didn't shut their entire webmail service down and flee to the Caymans to satisfy you, the dumbest gorilla nigger alive.
>>108694076so not spam then, signups.websites shouldn't delegate spam protection to various email sites, that's not how internet works. they want to make internet not work like that, with less anonymity, and i'm not okay with that.in 100 years people will be born into a world where you have to tie all your internet activity to your real identity and i don't want that, and that can't happen as long as you can make and use several anonymous emails. it's one of the first hurdles they have to get over to enforce digital online ids.
>>108694108Please refer to >>108694096
>>108694069>rattled pidorlol!
https://proton.me/blog/create-an-email-account-without-phone-number-verification>Published on April 4, 2024the balls of them to still have this blog post up when Proton Mail wants your phone number when a signup email is detected