Why does W10's flatshit look less bad and less soulless than windows 11's design?
>>108684527Windows 11 added rounded corners. Those are fine in Aero because Aero has rounded surfaces in general. But in Windows 11 it just looks like shit. 10 at least committed to simplicity, flatness, sharp corners, etc.The fact that Windows 11 has retarded shit like buttons staying highlighted after you mouse off doesn't help, of course - makes it look unprofessional and half-assed.
>>108684527I don't understand why microsoft hates button borders so much.
Metro committed to the bit.
>>108684527The Zelda cycle. Or:>old good>new bad
>>108684527Visually, 11 > 7 > 10
>>108684527It doesn't
>>108684623>>108684634 samefagging shadowboxing retard
>>108684623Vista shits on them all visually
>>108684540>makes it look unprofessional and half-assed....because it isbig tech jeets are just scammers who graduated their mumbai call center
7 > 11 > 10
>>108684527It doesn't. Hindus 11 looks like shit but it's still prettier than Hindus 10.
>>108684527Because Windows 11 connected both Metro and Aero, but, without the qualities of either.I like Micah effects on certain parts, like the browser titlebar, it looks alright untill you leave full-screen and see the Aero-wannabe rounded corners being smudged together with Metro shit.Not only that but Windows 11 STILL HAS FUCKING WINDOWS XP ELEMENTS.But yeah, I still think W11 looks better than W10 however.
>>108684566ocarina is objectively both a beautiful game and a shit one at the same time
>>108684527You can always do this.
I hate flatshit. Both 7 and 11 are much better than 10. But I haven't used Windows in 20 years, so I don't give a fuck either way.
>>108684527Incremental changes multiply the poor experience.Using the op pic as a reference.W10:- no visible boundary between title bar buttons except for X- smaller lighter drop shadow- bigger icons, minimize icon is no longer bottom aligned- more padding around button text- lighter font color, less contrast with backgroundW11:- No visible boundary between all title buttons- even lighter drop shadow- sightly bigger icons- even more padding- inverted font color, now white on blue
>>108684527At this point KDE looks a lot better than Windows, it's embarrassing.
>>108686714Linux always looked better than Windows, though, all you had to do is spend 10min theming.
>>108686735Oh but I have spent a lot of time theming, especially years ago, the problem is that there's always something that breaks the theme and doesn't look right, a good theme should work even with edge cases. That's the problem with Apple's Liquid ass too, it can look good, but it can also look horrible and that's the kind of thing Steve Jobs would not have let go.
>>108684527does it matter? If something only looks good by comparison it's still not good.I haven't liked using Windows since 7.
>>108684544modern softwares are obsessed with minimalism, not because UI designers want to but because some managing faggot who couldn't install windows himself in 2026 wants to do like everybody else
>>108684527i like 8 the best
>>108684623Exactly. /g/ is aesthetically challenged, as evidenced by the distros they use.
>>108684527come home white man
>>108687419It doesn't look that good, people simply have baby duck syndrome.
>>108687530you have contrarian syndrom
>>108684527Aero is overrated, it has all the same faults and strengths of 11. Nice translucency, soft rounded corners, thick bezels, but it looks less professional and feels heavier. Metro feels sharper, more professional, more lightweight, but also very dull.
>>108687419depth is always good for clarity. there's a reason people without depth perception (eg, one eye blind) can't drive cars. making a flat ui removes the most immediate information channel available to a designer. regarding how quickly our brain notices visual elements the list goes, depth, contrast, color. flat ui severely reduces "read" speed.
>>108687548It does some things right it does some things wrong, you should be able to acknowledge that if you're objective.At the very least we gave up on the paradigm of having windows within a window a long time ago for a good reason.
>>108687623mdi wasn't a good workflow design but that's not what this is about
>>108687530> I am going to amputate your arms and legs> No I don't want that> You're just afraid of change, stop being a baby duck, having limbs is obsolete.
>>108688027You sure demolished that strawman, good job.
>>108684527>that buttonlol
>>108684527It's called confirmation bias, they both look pretty bad.
>>108688789Gordo puto
>>108684527opinion discarded
>>108687419
>>108688789Once you get over the FisherPrice approach to styling, that's quite good.
>>108689182>He is sticking to cuck11 because no other versions of windblows supports his New Normal hardware You could always allow Linux to supersede that hot garbage you refer to as window 11
>>108684623based.
>>108686735I use GNOME btw
>>108684623I would agree with this if W11 allowed more transparency and an acryllic version of Micah effect by default without 3rd party trash.
>>108689256bro that looked like hot garbage even in the 90s.
>>108684527Jeets it's always jeets
>>108684623hey faggot you meant to put less than signs instead of greater thans, don't worry, it happens
>>108690108Nah, it only looked bad in comparison to other things in the 90s at the time. This was back when OS9 and Workbench were the competition and OS9 looked so good that I have a skin of it on one of my XFCE installations.Win98 looks god tier compared to every flat design made today.
Speaking of OS9, can we appreciate how good OSX looks before they fucked everything up?
>>108690108you look like hot garbage
>>108690191That's a good imitation, but it's actually Windows.https://winmac.software.informer.com/Compare to pic related, actual Mac OS: any non-focused window loses decoration and controls, and there's no menu bar inside it.
>>108684527Aero was voted most likely to fart in the office.
>>108684623holy based
>>108690584>https://winmac.software.informer.com/Oh wow I absolutely fell for it
>>108684527I don't care how bad 11 is, I'm still never, ever going to make excuses for 10.
>>108690198>Speaking of OS9, can we appreciate how good OSX looks before they fucked everything up? ya this shit actually felt lke the future. soft reflections. big juicy full high res images for icons. nice gradients and transparencies. they're fucking retarded now. that bubble shit is for retards.
>>108690198Beautiful, but they threw away one of the smartest design decisions about classic: the close button being separate from the others. Which is something I get on Linux now.
>>108684662Dissapointed
>>1086906258 was unironically the best.
One big tip for meeting women. Just loudly say when you look at her, "wow she's fat." Usually, she will marry you.
>>108690736So your "expectations" was dissapointing, got it.
>>1086846237 with classic theme >>>>>> all desktop environments
>>108690805Wood
>>108690867>>108690798
>>108690950>>108690736>>108684662>instant xenophobiaSon of dissapointment
>>108687530>noo it needs 20 AI buttons and more bloated electron trash
>>108684527I will forever be mad that the minimize button is in the middle or the top and not near the bottom like it used to be and should be
>>108684527Because windows cucks are eternally self poisoned with historical revisionism.>uhmmm akshully w8 wasn't that bad. metro was soulful!!!>uhmmm akshully w10 wasn't that bad. It did flatshit the right way
>>108687419ye, but need to be blacked into a dark theme
7 aero >Vista aero >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>11 fluent>>10 flatThis is the truth
>>108687419I miss it so much bros
>>1086845277 is consistently stylized, 10 is consistently boring (mostly anyway), 11 is a half-assed attempt at dressing up flatshit as something fancier.Rounded corners don't make sense if they eat into the actual content they're surrounding. 7 respected this, 11 does not.
3.1 >>>>>> 7 >>>>> 11 > 10
>>108684660right on cue
>>108684527The only Windows UI I was never a fan of was XP and 8, the others have been fineVista in particular left a good impression on me, but computer at the time, including mine, had a bit of trouble running the systemSpeaking of, my first experience with Windows was in 2000, Windows 95
>>108684634it does
Ive only ever liked win2k in terms of UI.
>>108684623Only if you retarded and have shit taste at the same time
>>108692208>still at itreplying to your own posts won't save youalsoVisually, 11 > 7 > 10
>>108684634Absolutely
>>108684527why is microsoft so incompetent at creating software
>>108692257another screenshot, with like 2 clicks you can see 3 generations of windows design
>>108684660This uronically>>108692295stfu son of dissapoint
>luddite is still at it samefagging like a negative IQ because he got BTFO after windows 11 is better than bothvibeBROS winning once again
>still at itvibeBROS winning once again
>still samefaggingvibeBROS winning once again
holy shit imagine being this butt hurt over some stupid windows UI thread. And here I thought my life was bottom of the barrel...
>>108684527Win10 and win11 both look equally bad. Aero is ugly, too, most overrates theme ever, but it's still far better than 10 and 11.
>>108687419Even if you wanted to ruin the UI with hamburger menus and other cryptic symbols for illiterate shitskins, the style of Win 2000 is superior to any windows since. (Mac is a maybe, Mac had better style but somewhat less pragmatic )
>>108690108It's clean and efficient.
>>108691122No, it's pretty consistent that Windows 2000 and Windows 7 have the best reputations.
someone post that picture of windows 11 having all the different context menus open with styles going back to windows 98
10 looked like absolute garbage. I always condemned microsoft for making it so difficult to work with visual styles with their update every half a year retardation.The use of pure white on windows and elements is absolutely retarded, by the way.And slightly rounded corners never killed anyone, the issue with modern design is the radius being set to 40 billion.
>>108690198I'd be alright with just going back to Mavericks
>>108692265I actually really don’t care about it and even find it kind of endearing. Like you go to your parents attic and it’s still got that old carpet and paintjob and you find some stuff or papers you were looking for in some old musty boxes. Only soulless npcs care that the attic doesn’t have japandi midcentury modern design.
>>108688789olive green is where windows design peaked
>>108690981no one is afraid of you currycels :) you're a lot tamer than your gypsy cousins
>>108684566I despised windows 10 but it was better than 11.
>>108694077mentally ill samefag take your crazy pills and fuck off to your containment board>>>/v/
>>108684527Because it was never about flatness
>>108692257
>>108684559This. Anywhere it was applied it was (mostly) consistent, especially because they iterated on the design with 8 and 8.111 is all over the fucking place.
>>108695290>Anywhere it was applied it was (mostly) consistentIf there was a complaint for many years is that it was the very opposite of consistent. They could never decide how to make it look, to the point where any related files to theming would constantly break. At some point, visual themes could no longer touch the taskbar. Win10 was an unfuckable disaster of an OS.
>>108695315Within the core OS, Windows 10 did in fact apply its theming consistently to EVERYTHING that was "Modern" themed, but you also right, hence the (mostly). You really saw the cracks in shit like Control Panel that was 1. Still Win32 2. Was deliberately excluded from the "nu32" styling of a vanilla Explorer window after that one update that let you go dark mode in Explorer.11 is far far more egregious. Plus it indirectly made 10 WORSE after "apps" (like "Photos" - I upgraded from 7 and kept "Windows Photo Viewer") started getting Mica/11 updates. I only noticed in Photos because I never use it and didn't forcibly disable store updates for it. My stank ass 2020 "TV & Movies" actually looks better than the fucking new one.
>>108695410>You really saw the cracks in shit like Control Panel that was 1. Still Win32 2. Was deliberately excluded from the "nu32" styling of a vanilla Explorer window after that one update that let you go dark mode in Explorer.Because they intended but never fully replaced all those settings.At least 8.1 had most of those intact. Windows 10 started fiddling and replacing many of those panels with an immediately worse alternative. One of the things that got me was that Windows 10 removed the old file associations panel and replaced it with something where, if you wanted an application to be the default to open every single file type it supported, you'd have to set it one by one, as opposed to just pressing a fucking button. And by LTSC 2019 it would constantly lose these file associations and need to get them enabled again.The worst thing is that their modern UI made Windows 10 VMs really fucking laggy. You could run 8.1 on a virtual machine fairly smoothly on a lower powered machine, but forget about 10.
>>108695440I won't argue, you're mostly right...I don't seem to have the file association issues but I'm on whatever the "final" version of 10 is and not 2019. I do remember it being an issue in the past.Mein Gott, have you used 11? I have to interact with it on client machines where we couldn't convince them to just use 10 ESU. 11's so much worse because they DIDN'T universally replace "Modern" (nuMetro) in all of the "Apps".So now you get the "usual":>wow there's still some fucking Win3.1 looking shit in here, wow there's still some Win9x looking shit in here - these 2 require some amount of digging, especially the first one>wow Control Panel and Notepad still look like 7>wow this "Modern" stuff looks alright when it's whole-assedAnd then on top of that you get fucking whiplash going BACK AND FORTH between 10 looking "Modern" and 11 looking "Mica" crap.It baffles me why they didn't just internally update the way 10's "Modern" shit is DISPLAYED to create 11's "Mica." Or maybe they DID and the issue is that there were no fewer than three different fucking ways to make a "Modern" app and only one of them is context aware enough to just look different in 11.Fuck man. In XP I just had it set to "Classic" to look like 2000 and everything was uniform. Take me back.
>>108690198someone was living his best life designing these icons and getting paid for it
W10's look is way more consistent. It came out when flat minimalism had just taken over, it would have been strange if it wasn't flat like everything else had become by 2015. But W11 came out when people were tired of it. Yet it looks like it's trying to be flat minimalist while also having various touches that don't fit the motif. It's like they read posts about various things people missed from before the flat minimalism era and randomly added some of them back to the design until it lost all thematic meaning and looked like an uncanny knock off. It would be like randomly making some of Windows XP's elements flat grey squares and flattening the icons while keeping everything else the same.
>>108695604Some people really despise skeuomorphism but for the longest time we've had nothing but lazy shit in terms of UX design that can't clearly measure up
>>108684527>Aerofancy, rounded corners but with border to not cut off window content.>Metrosimple flat, no more border to minimize unused space, sharp corners.>Fluentstill simple flat but with rounded corners cutting off window content.ui design didn't just become more soulless but also more retarded.
>>108684527>W10's flatshit look less bad and less soulless than windows 11's design?Are you fuckin serious?>>108684540Note how windows 7 DOES NOT ROUND AND CUT OFF THE FUCKING CONTENT IN THE WINDOWIT IS MERELY A BORDER AROUND IT
>>108686714KDE does look very good for a flatshit though. Not overpadded and not too bright.>>108686735>all you had to do is spend 10min theming.Fuck that shit nigger
>>108691149Windows 95 has the ability to have a more complete dark theme than Windows 10/11.
>>108696633>>108698707it's like 10 total pixels of "content"The only things those rounded corners could possibly subtract from is images and video, and in that case you can just toggle fullscreen if you really need to see what's in those two bottom corners. Rounded corners are generally more pleasing on the eye, and they avoid placing a sharp visual contrast on an unimportant part of the window that would draw your attention.
>Winshit 10 apologizers LmfaoYou now remember Cortana
