On-demand lucid dreaming coming soonProphetic is launching a headband that uses ultrasonic energy to the prefrontal cortex which is usually inactive during dreaming which is why you think a dream is real until you awokenwhen lucid dreaming occurs, the prefrontal cortex is active
>>108687773Do you have a better source of this info that isn't diarrhea from a literally who? twitter user?
>>108687773>AISiri, skip this one.
>>108687786they have a website, prophetic dot com, and they already had success with inducing lucid dreams with beta testers
>>108687773And how is this supposed to work exactly?We barely understand what lucid dreaming is yet here is a device that can induce it? Huh?
>>108687812go to their website or youtube, they have a video embedded explaining how it works
>>108687773>cooks your brain
Buy an ad faggot
>>108687773Dreaming as a service. Cheapest plan gives you ads while you sleep. There is no free option.
>>108687773Already got the analog version, thanks anyway.
>>108687773>VIRAL VIRAL VIRALGo buy an ad you double nigger.
>>108687807once every full moon?
>>108687773Is there a published study supporting their concept?
>>108687823Buy an add dipshit. Noone needs your scam.
>pay $449 plus handling plus shipping plus taxes to have a machine controlling your dreams>after one night of using it you enlist to go die for israel in a war in a country you can't even find on a map
>>108687882what’s this then?
>>108687842it will definitely go through safety tests, no way they won't as that will open them to lawsuits
>>108687876it will probably be published before release, the fact that it worked in a double blind study shows a lot of promise
>>108687870>viralschizophrenia. kys
>>108687930Well, as someone with a masters in Biomedical Engineering - until it is published in a proper peer-reviewed journal I call it BS. Ultrasonic waves reflect from surface boundaries, basically penetrating the cranium to get in the brain would require a very powerful transducer. Also how are they going to adapt to variations between different people cranium and tissue thickness? Given that this is a consumer product and users will fuck it up and could theoretically stimulate anything with this thing - it either does nothing what it claims or will fail any proper safety tests.
>>108687902Not a map.
>>108688077It's a spherical map you retarded monkey
>>108688121I accept your concession.
>>108687773Wasn't there an ultrasonic testicle cooker that made you sterile? Either way, I don't want to give jewish companies the ability to feed me propaganda while I sleep.
>>108687930>>108688019Yeah I'm interested but want testimonies from actual customers.
>>108687773It's probably just a scam, but I'd pay good money for a device that could induce lucid dreaming.
no matter how far along the line we move snake oil salesmen still exist
>we don't fully understand the function or purpose of dreams from a biological perspective>theories include that it helps with learning, helps process trauma, helps clear up fragmented thoughts, practice in social or novel situations, etc but nothing for sure>hey i have an idea let's strap something to our head to fuck with itwhat could go wrong?
>>108688232so would the government. this is national secret level stuff. if this was an actual existing product the creators would be assassinated before release and the product stolen.
>>108687773I don't know man, vibrating your brain doesn't sound too good for you. I could see this causing severe CTE or whatever similar condition is more applicable to that kind of trauma.
>>108687773I thought we've been over why this is a bad idea.
>>108688337AI bros killing themselves isn't a bad thing, anon.
>>108688077>globes>not a 3d mapnowhere does it say a map must be 2D
>>108687773>announcement of a revolutionary product>spends more time talking about prices and release date instead of explaining what it actually doesI hate capitalism.
This is just placebo. People buy the device that promises to induce lucid dreaming and therefore they convince themselves that it will work and ultimately they start lucid dreaming.
lucid dreaming is fake, just like internal monologues and mental imaging
>>108687773This whole knowing its a dream = lucid dream is one of the best proofs of NPC theory. NPCs (most people), have no subjective experience, so to them simply knowing you are in a dream is what lucid dreaming is.
>>108688551nah the cia mastered this stuff in 1991 https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00789R003100140001-2.pdf
>>108687773Will this enable me to build agentic saas during sleep hours?t. average SF resident
>realize I'm dreaming>begin wandering around dream world looking for a cute girl>find cute girl>begin to sniff/lick her feet>immediately wake upEvery. Fucking. Time.So, great. A device that can harm my health by making me wake up prematurely for $449. Fantastic.
Oh sweet I love techbro vampire hell devices that fuck with your dreams
>>108687773>On-demand lucid dreaming coming soonpeople cant fucking lucid dream on demand and they need tech for it?
5G inhibits your spirituality and dreams so they can sell it back to you, but working the way they want it topeople think waging and money is how they have power over you but its much deeper than thatif you remembered the true nature of your powers this shit would already be over
>>108687773use-case for lucid dreaming?
>>108687773Reminder that you can use magnets to disable parts of the brain.
>>108687807so no scholar study on this?
>>108687773Man made horrors beyond your comprehension
>>108688727infinite training in an environment where the brain is so powerful it makes even the most imaginative person look like an aphantasia sufferer. you ever seen the matrix or limitless or a billion other movies that touch on the topic of accessing the latent powers of our brains?
>>108688727>use-case for lucid dreaming?this will allow for 16 hour work shifts. there'll be no excuse for breaks.
Enforcers are awake, post Gooper.
>>108687773It will do fuck all, except through placebo. You are allowed to sell useless trash which does fuck all if you hem and haw enough, but if it actually did anything the chance of it triggering say a psychosis with massive liability would be way too high.The intensity will be too low for physiological effect.
>>108687773yawnwake me when people actually report consistent lucids with this device
>>108687869kek
>>108687773>it vibrates after detecting you're asleep by reading your heartbeat on a wristband>that will be $1000
>>108687773Man who the fuck cares about lucid dreaming if it's possible to inject voices into your head and read your mind and force you to talk to someone else as you read or work on something?At worst if you're targetted all your lucid dreams attempts are public.You might as well tell the whole world that you used your ability to lucid dream privately as a kid to imagine sexy woman as you sleep and it makes absolutely ZERO difference to how you're perceived now.At least what you experience is private so if you experience something and don't talk about it online you won't hear a voice in your head related to that.Never talk about certain stuff online like EVER.
>>108687869lol
>>108689002Especially anything at all related to abuse attempts from others EVER.DON'T EVER, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT ONLINE EVER IT'S AMONG THE VERY WORST THINGS YOU CAN PUT YOURSELF THROUGH.YOU WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE A LIAR, DON'T EVER DO THAT.
>>108688727so you have something to say when some jackass brings it up, case in point;contrary to popular belief it doesn't feel real, it feels like a dream, shocker. You know it's a dream, you know you're not really there, so it all feels pointless and a waste of time. And then you're woken by sheer disappointment
>>108689015I mean do you enjoy your life being known and broadcasted to strangers privately and you hearing about it privately, I bet you don't, so don't talk about it.Unless you enjoy a private kind of truman show don't.
>>108687812It’s called snake oil.
>>108687773>$449Yeah, no. A lifetime of these grown at home costs less.
>>108687773i've always wanted to buy Lightspeed Briefs anyway
>>108689075microdosing jenkem is even cheaper
>>108687773It's a scam.
fucking retarded OPhttps://xcancel.com/PropheticAI/status/2047730546764308965#m
they should send demo units to people to try out for 2 nights and then they can pay to keep it or return it
A few months ago I could almost do this without any equipment. I have since lost the ability, though it still happens once a month or two.
>108688551>t. retarded npc
>>108688551>>108689497sorry i forgot you give you your (you)im gay
>>108689463Don't sleep with your phone or tablet near you
sounds like a nightmare twilight zone episode waiting to happen
beefbrained post
>>108688727Becoming demon possessed.
>>108687902>balltardso maybe the device works after all
>pay money to prevent your brain from actually restingLucid dreaming requires a localized awakening of highly energetic prefrontal and parietal networks, surging the brain's consumption of glucose and Oxygen to near-waking levels.
>>108687773I already have the wristband version.
>>108689830the chronic, recreational pursuit of lucid dreaming poses substantial and widely underreported mental health risks. The deliberate erosion of the sleep-wake boundary strongly correlates with increased dissociative symptoms, schizotypy, and severe reality monitoring deficits that mimic clinical anoneirognosis. Furthermore, the sleep disruption inherent in dominant induction practices threatens fundamental neurobiological maintenance processes, including the glymphatic clearance of neurotoxins, elevating the long-term risk of neurodegenerative decline.
>>108688388>nowhere in the rules does it say a dog can't play sportsthey made like 20 movies on this premise
>>108687869>magnets induce lucid dreamsHow do they work?
>>108687773I don't want that shit. what's the hype for lucid dreaming? I just want to close my eyes and clock out for several hours, not have some sort of directed reality simulation. y'all niggas really just living a life you don't want aren't you?
>>108688019>frogposterIgnored.
>>108690079please don't ignore me you will negatively impact my posting metrics and elon musk will reduce my paycheck
I NEED MY HECKIN LUCID DREAMERINOS CAUSE I'M SICK OF LIVING IN REALITY! PLEASE SAVE ME AI!!!!
>>108688019Focus.All the reflections don't matter because the head attenuates enough that stray energy won't do much. Only the focal area gets sufficient intensity for effect.Here's a human experiment :https://ucalgary.scholaris.ca/items/3deb0ed6-4624-4155-9738-f2e37eaa4a79
>>108690157yet if they claled it a machine learning algorithm instead of ai you'd be posting a completley different commentnt you popularity chasing frick. this is literally one of the few applications wher eneural networks/ai are really the only real option that makes sense
>>108688727Groping dream girls.
>>108687773The most obvious scam of this week
>>108687773great now I can work in my sleep!
>>108687773>zogbot headband i don't think i will
>>108688727Interstellar travel to escape the memes of humanity telling you to be an animal, so you can learn how consciousness can do anything from aliens.>>108687773>On-demand lucid dreaming coming soonI can already lucid dream on demand.>>108687882They will use it to beam ads into your subconscious while you are most vulnerable. Don't get this shit if its networked.
>>108689288Yeah, a "14-Day Money Back Guarantee" could work too.
>>108690296Why does it have to be grope?Why not simply go on a date with, hold hands with, hang out with.
>>108690409if you love your job you'll never work a night in your life :)
>>108690596My wife Nijika
>>108690679
>>108690631That's why my job is being a NEET
>>108687773It's just as likely to give you sleep paralysis as it is lucid dreams. I would rather have appendicitis again then experience another bout of sleep paralysis. I don't get how retards imagine a succubus is having sex with them. I just feel like can't breathe or move like I'm being buried alive.
>>108688337just install Beefbrain Shield and you're all good
>>108688727You can do some pretty fun shit. I've managed it a few times and used it to all kinds of things, usually traveling. The only problem I've had is that when that little click happens and you realize I'm in full control, I wake up if I get too excited or aware, so I have to try and be as calm as possible when that little awareness thing happens. I just wish I knew how to consistently get lucid dreams, it happened a lot when I was a kid but now it's probably only one lucid dream every 2 or 3 years.
>>108687807>beta testersI'm an alpha though, will it still werk?
>>108691576only betas need to lucid dream in order to fuck something so no
>>108688586it happens to the best of us
>>108687773I dream of ads...
>>108687773I lucid dream on commandBecause Im a student of Ye WestYou athiest faggots gotta depend on Silicon Valley fake ass wannabe Isaac Asimov ass shitWall-E is more prophetic than anything Silicon Valley shills now adays
>>108692151ADIDAA doesn't roll off the tongue.
>>108688232>I'd pay good money for a device that could induce lucid dreaming.>6 months later>please update your subscription to platinum level otherwise you will only dream about getting raped
>>108690596Takes too long. By the time you notice you're in a dream, you're probably moments away from waking up. You gotta get it done quick and strike when the iron's hot.Just make sure you are actually dreaming though.
>You let (((them))) put always online cameras all over your home in the name of security>Now you'll let (((them))) microwave mind control beams directly into your brainWe deserve this
>>108692482You can keep it going for a while but the realization risks waking you up. You get excited when you realize you're in the dream and in total control and that itself wakes you up, so if you keep calm, you can prolong it. It's not easy though and I've only managed it a handful of times in my entire life.
>>108692536Yeah, there are rare exceptions, but in general you can't expect it to last more than a few seconds past the point where you're aware enough to be making these considerations in the first place.It's one thing if your thought process is>This is a dream so its okay for me to do thisbut if you get to the point where you're going>Hmm, I appear to be dreaming. Better try regulate my emotions and carefully conjure my desires. Let's see, how much time do I probably have, and what can I fit into that timeframe....then you're going to be awake before you even finish the thought and will spend the next minute or so in the giga cope of "maybe if I fall back asleep right now I can go back to that same dream", even though you know you won't.>>108688586Having sex in dreams becomes WAY easier once you've done it once in real life. I now have sex dreams from time to time, but still cannot pull off foot stuff because I didn't bring that up with any of my irl partners.
>>108692756>then you're going to be awake before you even finish the thoughtYou can manage to get a little bit of time and do whatever you want, but it's short. If I had to say how long it felt like, it's usually maybe 1-2 minutes of being able to do whatever. I've managed to so some shit like conjure about buildings, fly around by just flapping my arms or instantly being transported to a familiar place, but the amount of time I get to enjoy it is pretty short.
>>108687773>>108688232nigga just practice having a lucid dream and it will occur more and more, for freei used to only do dream journalling + going to sleep thinking "i'll have a lucid dream" and i used to have like 3 times a weeki stopped because i was sleeping 16 hours a day>>108688512this
>>108692756>Having sex in dreams becomes WAY easier once you've done it once in real life. I now have sex dreams from time to time, but still cannot pull off foot stuff because I didn't bring that up with any of my irl partners.Oh I've done sex/foot stuff many, many times.I just wake up instantly whenever I get sexually aroused, like clockwork.
>>108692917the first one is the easiest one to have btwjust go to sleep thinking that you will have a lucid dream and it will happen
LD is one of the biggest YMMV out there, so any and all "just do <thing>" are invalid. There are things worth trying but no telling which will actually help.
>>108687773I've seen multiple devices over the past few years that claim to do the exact same thing. I'm pretty sure they're all scams.
>>108688586Yup.Well, minus the feet shit.>Wake up in dream>Immediately start looking for hole to plug>Begin having the sex>Feels guud man>Oh shit, feel self waking up>Wake upI have enough trouble maintaining a reasonable sleeping schedule without that shit.However, the next jerkoff session is bound to feel great, because of how worked up you got.
Scam
>>108692762My point is that to get what you want, don't think about ANYTHING else or you severely hurt your chances of getting it. The obviously paradoxical nature of having to not think about not thinking about it makes it tricky, but its a skill that can be "learned". My best successes usually came after strings of failures within relatively short time periods.>>108692918That's interesting, for me it certainly is only uncharted territory that causes an instant wakeup. Oddly this only applies to sex and death/severe injury. Anything more mild than that even if totally new and just as emotionally impactful doesn't usually do it.>>108692946I've never been able to purposefully induce a lucid dream. They just happen sometimes.>>108692991>the next jerkoff session is bound to feel great, because of how worked up you gotWell sure, if you do it right after you wake up. If you mean the tension somehow carries over even after that wave of arousal fades, then that's unfamiliar to me.
>>108687773>which is why you think a dream is real until you awokenSorry, I often realize I'm in a dream consciously and take control of it.
>>108687909you are a bot. Fuck off bot
>>108688727you must work in your dreams to meet the quota now
>>108687773for me, it's the dream machine
>>108690596That’s disgusting. Fuck you. Freak.
>>108687773>t uses ultrasonic energy to the prefrontal cortex which is usually inactive during dreaming which is why you think a dream is real until you awokenSaaaar do not redeem the ESL phoneposting
>>108687773if you want to lucid dream, wake yourself up around 1 am then go back to sleep.Every time I do this I have vivid dreams.
>>108694936Why don’t you wake me up at 1 am. With a blowjob. Faggot.
>>108695042I wake up at that time because I got to pee because that's what happens when you are old.
>>108695188Not him but I've been waking up at least once every night to pee ever since my early 20s, I wonder if there's something wrong with my prostate. It sucks because it does mess up with my sleep, and I don't understand how I'm peeing so much, I've had days where I tried to not drink much during the night and I still woke up several times to pee. I've looked around and apparently it might actually have something to do with sleep apnea.
>>108687773Wake me up when they figured out genuine shared dreaming.
>>108695211I had this issue as well and I fixed it by not drinking too much during the day not just at night, and if I do drink too much, I'll just pee in a male medical urinal from my bed laying on my side and it won't wake me too much and I can fall back asleep easier, but still see a doctor and they can give you a home sleep test to see if you have sleep apnea.
>>108688727Scot-free rape
>>108687773Anyone rememeber they had one of these that were were supposed to put around your dick to induce lucid dreaming?
I feel like the closest I've gotten to lucid dreams are dreams about having lucid dreams. Like, I'm aware I'm a dream, but I don't feel like I have nearly as much agency or make the same decisions as I would when I'm awake. Anyone else have this happen to them?
>>108695805yea, i get that sometimes. like you've pressed a button and entered spectator mode by accident. you feel like you're consciously aware of what's happening, but aren't really in control of what's happening either
This is how you have lucid dreams consistently>Keep a dream journalThis is the hardest thing to keep doing. You have to wake up out of sleep and DO NOT MOVE. Try to remember by working backwards what you were just doing in your dreams. You can start writing in your journal after you are convinced you can't remember anymore. If you don't remember anything pay attention to how you are feeling, what you were thinking of when you woke up. If you still can't remember anything write "No dreams remembered" in your journal (yes actually do this).Always write in the present tense, as if you are experiencing the dream right now. Go through the dream and underline anything unusual. That is a dream sign.>Reality checksEvery hour or so in waking life, or every time you encounter something that reminds you of a dream sign, do a reality check. This is both an action that you can easily do to show that you are dreaming, and a mindset of genuinely questioning whether you are dreaming or not. Do both. Obviously when you are awake you know you are awake, but when you are dreaming you have a subtle feeling that things aren't right. Doing this will slowly give you the ability to pick up on that subtle feeling, and eventually that will be enough.The best reality check is pinching your nostrils shut and trying to breath through them. If you are dreaming you will breath through your hand and closed nostrils. Another decent one is counting your fingers, if you are dreaming your hands will look weird or you will count 11+. But closing your nostrils (or anything similar like being able to breath underwater) is the best one from my experience because it almost never fails. You can do multiple of RCs back to back and should because one could fail. E.g. you can do the nostrils one, then check an clock and see if the numbers are fucked up.This is enough to eventually get lucid dreams pretty often.Controlling dreams is a separate skill from having lucid dreams. (1/2)
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>>108696009If you can please also talk about controlling dreams. Great post.
>>108695211What i do is wear a secure wrap around the neck travel pillow which acts like a neck brace that keeps my chin up and my airway open. I also sleep on my back on a wedge pillow. That might help you.I've also heard that holding in pee can help stretch the bladder muscles out so that it is less sensitive which will help reduce urination frequency perhaps.
>>108687773>He needs a device to activate free will in his own dreamsThis new generation really is cooked>>108690596Our device has detected illegal activity in your dream.Stand by while we correct the issues.>>108690717The issue has been corrected. You may now continue dreaming.
>>108696009The issue is that most people are going get fatigued and lazy to do the core practices needed for lucid dream induction, devices like the prophetic headband will make lucid dreaming more accessible for those who want to lucid dream but won't bother putting in the work for it normally
>>108696009>>108696035>StabilityYou can stay in dreams for longer by rubbing your hands together, really notice how it feels. You can also rub your hands on any surface within the dream, again pay real attention to how it feels. Engage in any sense and pay attention to how it feels, but touch is easiest to do this with. I would avoid doing this with sight, because I'm pretty sure staring at something too long will wake you up (it's called Rapid Eye Movement sleep, maybe your eyes being too still for too long will cue your body that you are awake).You also need to not be so excited when you become lucid. Imagine excitement or anxiety as a meter that when it reaches the top, you wake up out of a lucid dream. The difficulty of doing stuff like flying and having sex with your waifu without getting to overly excited is what keeps people from staying in lucid dreams. This doesn't mean limiting enjoyment. Meditation helps with this.>ControlDreams have a "magical logic" to them. Controlling what happens in a dream isn't merely thinking of something and it just happens (at least at the beginning, you will do this incorrectly). Your brain operates on a "suspension of disbelief" sort of way. This is true both awake and asleep, but as far as dreams are concerned some things are harder to control than others. Gaining good dream control is shifting your mindset towards "this thing i want to happen is perfectly reasonable and has always been possible" and trying to coax your brain into thinking such a thing is possible using what is already in your dreams. Slowly your dreams will conform to what you think.Avoid trying to summon objects or people right in front of you, at least in the beginning. Instead, be utterly convinced that said object or person is in another room, or behind something in the dream environment. If the object is small enough, like a phone, you can pull it out of your pocket, again you are convinced that it is it was always there.(2/actually 3)
>>108696187>More stabilityWhen you become lucid, immediately start rubbing your hands. Lucid dreams should be stabilized right as you enter them.>More controlWith that phone, you call the person you want on it and ask where they are, or for them to come to you. This is what I mean by using stuff within the dream versus trying to do everything with mind powers.You can use magical objects, either summoned or found. My favorite are potions because you can get a lot of effects from them also its fun finding out what the brain assigns which flavors to what. Try the summoning technique to get the item that causes the effect you want. It really does help to use a "magic system" over trying to do stuff directly with your mind at least for a lot of things. Try to learn or make up spells and it helps to make the "logic" consistent. Adopt a fictional system if you want. Be consistent and your brain is much likely to allow it to happen. Eventually you will not need to do this.You may not get what you want the first time. They are skills you have to train. Flying can be difficult, you might have to figure out some tricks, but eventually you will be able to translate yourself across space standing up, or teleport.Do not fall for the trap of thinking if you haven't experienced something IRL you can't experience it in a dream. Your brain is extremely capable of guessing how things work, you'd be surprised. Even if it isn't 100% accurate, it will likely be better than reality. You will have sex in a dream as a virgin and may be disappointed by the real thing.
>>108687773if this thing were real it would be the end of civilization as we know it, everyone would check out, quit their jobs and get an ambien prescription.you know what kinda dreams i'm gonna have
Can I lift weights in my dreams and have neuromuscular gains from it or do cardio
>>108687773>On-demand lucid dreaming coming soonAds in dreams and government propaganda, that's what you're getting.
>>108696478It depends how effective it is.For me personally there is not enough hours in the day. Lucid dreaming would help when trying to write or come up with ideas as a sort of virtual testing ground (which is how I try to use it). If something is lacking it would be a result of my own knowledge lacking, essentially revealing to me what I need to research or look up next.Though an issue with lucid dreaming is the difference in quality of the dreams between people of differing levels of intelligence, those with learning disabilities and those with savant-like levels of understanding. And personal experience is a big factor. You can't replicate an experience you've never had.>>108696628It's theoretically possible to build muscle mass during sleep.In order to build muscle mass you need to damage muscle fibers and allow them to heal back.So, in theory, you can be injected with nanomachines that directly damage muscle tissue (but in a controlled fashion) without you needing to damage them yourself via strenuous activity.
>>108696758>In order to build muscle mass you need to damage muscle fibers and allow them to heal back.>So, in theory, you can be injected with nanomachines that directly damage muscle tissue (but in a controlled fashion) without you needing to damage them yourself via strenuous activity.can we use sonic technology or something to damage the fibers and stimulate muscle growth? anything that doesn't involved picking up heavy shit and repetitive strain injuries.
>>108696875The only process I can think of would involve you sleeping or simply laying down in a pod designed to blast parts of your body with sonic waves that would force the muscle fibers to vibrate violently enough to tear themselves, but leave skin, bones, and organs undamaged.You might be required to wear a specialized wave dampening vest and helmet to avoid organ/brain damage.There there would HAVE to be a mechanism in place to detect when enough damage has been done and a fail-safe that ensure you won't get blasted for hours on end and turned into jello. As the customer sure won't be able to move for at least an hour or two directly after the process.The upside is it might take only a few minutes to sufficiently damage the desired muscle groups as opposed to hours of lifting, push ups, and squatting. The downside is your faggot friend/attendant might open your pod directly afterwards and molest your helpless body.I'm no doctor, but I ASSUME there is a good reason something similar hasn't been tested yet on a smaller scale (such as just the forearm or biceps).And if it turns out this is just uncharted territory...Then... uh... forget everything you've read here and don't mention it to anyone until I've had time to go to the patent office.
>>108697211>Then... uh... forget everything you've read here and don't mention it to anyone until I've had time to go to the patent office.when they give you the Nobel prize, just mention me, Anonymous.
>>108688727Nobody's mentioned just talking to dream characters. Ofc I know 99% of ppl here are so sex-obsessed that they'll train days or weeks for five seconds of groping a dream girl.Start talking to some people in your dreams (I advise not telling them they're in your dream) and you might start feeling bad about sexually abusing them.Then you might question if you are in someone's dream. But who's the dreamer? Creation starts making sense as you yourself create worlds and people in an instant in your head. As above, so below. Are you in the mind of God and was Jesus Christ the lucid dreamer?So that's the second use-case after grabbing girls to sniff their feet: free housing and balanced meals of corn syrup in a mental ward.>>108689911This is a pet peeve of mine against careless lucidity advocates. I only know of about them because mine started involuntarily on their own. Instructions on exiting, dream control or reality checks aren't 100%. My worst nightmares were lucid and it's not fun being an adult afraid to go to sleep.Btw for anyone out there all sleep issues stopped after quitting ALL caffeine. Feels stupid it took so long for something so obvious. Doctors are actual drooling retards. NEVER listen to anyone's opinion on caffeine who hasn't been off for at least 3 months.
>>108697330Not exactly /g/ but I'll add that I can't help but think the way lucid dreaming is most often framed and sold really glows (like the selling point being very base fantasies, getting away "without consequences"). Even if your interpretation is that none of it's "real", just your brain going beep boop, unconscious robot characters hallucinated by your brain that don't matter etcetc. Surely you can still appreciate that it is some part of yourself you're groping or whatever your thing happens to be.So at some level you've spent great effort to unlock an esoteric skill that involves messing with an essential function of life that you eventually die without, the lack of which drives anyone beyond insane, and that is still largely a mystery for science. And you use it to sexually abuse yourself. That is fucked.
>>108688019>Also how are they going to adapt to variations between different people cranium and tissue thickness?Worse, the connectivity of every brain is a bit different from that of every other brain (even between identical twins) so you can't work out what to target even if you could target it. This isn't fixable either; the differences are caused by different life histories. Genetics only gives the broad picture: the details are effectively random.
>>108697330>Nobody's mentioned just talking to dream characters.That's because everyone here realizes the people in your dream are just constructed approximations, they can not tell you anything that you don't already know, unless you're willing to believe your own lies. If you're foolish enough to believe you've "learned" something about a dream inhabitant's real world self, then I've got some bad news to share with you.You've simply confirmed something you subconsciously already knew, but consciously repressed (lied to yourself).>you might start feeling bad about sexually abusing them.That fact that you preconceive such actions as sexual abuse before they've even happened, means you've not only poisoned yourself with a preconception, but are actively influencing the nature of all further interactions with your dream inhabitants. You WANT to feel bad about your actions and externalize it via chastisement through your dream NPCs.That you don't factor in your own subconscious values as a factor AT ALL in the way your dream world operates is actually very telling.
>>108697679Never said I discount or don't factor in the unconscious. It's key to how I think of it. This isn't an elaborate well thought out paper that explores it all and tries to account for criticisms from varied worldviews or fields of psychology, it's a 4chan post. And typical for such such posts your response is inserting what isn't here just because in your head these things were implied.E.g. there was never any chastisement from my dream characters. That was never even a topic.I do preconceive groping as sexual abuse and think any judge would agree. I don't accept it's healthy to consciously do things in lucid dreams you wouldn't get away with irl. Who knows wtf you're doing to your unconscious anyway with lucid dreaming.
>>108687773I can just lucid dream anytime I want though.I often create a 6ft4in tall girl with pale skin and jet black hair to have sex with.Makes a mess with my sheets though.
>>108687773>uses ultrasonic energy to the prefrontal cortexHmm, no I don't think I will vibrate my brain cells every night with that thing. Maybe once there's 50 years of studies showing it doesn't lead to early onset dementia and such.
>>108690051I know of two guys that might know
>>108687773>ultrasonic energy to the prefrontal cortexI've seen what ultrasonic cleaners can do. No way I'm risking cavitation bubbles in my brain.
>>108697827>I do preconceive groping as sexual abuse and think any judge would agree.Didn't you read the disclaimer that flashed by at the start of the dream?It's all consensual and not sexual abuse.
Apparently there is a drug now that can make you lucid dream GalantamineWish this stuff were around in 2018 when I was asking about it on dreamchan
>>108688551hello fellow dalit
>>108687869Those little magnets do nothing on your wrists.
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>>108698473um actually if they did nothing the government wouldn't allow them to be sold
>>108698645>um actually if they did nothing the government wouldn't allow them to be soldLittle bro, it's not being sold as a medical device with FDA approval and certification. It's being sold as trinket with no medical value.
>>108697554imagine posting AIslop on fucking /g/.
>lucid dreamingnot a fan. used to do it a whole lot growing up; if your dreams go sideways you are in for a shitty experience. you probably don't need to pay 500 bucks to do it looks like another toy for the upper classes
you can have some absolutely fucking wild dreams by binge eating and then passing out
>>108699202The Unitedstatian way
>>108687773In the future there will be real lucid dreaming technology like this but it'll also read your brainwaves and automatically report you to the police if you try to rape
>>108688727My favorite dream that I've ever had was a lucid dream. I was walking back to my car through the parking lot at the mall, and a man opened his car door and pointed a gun at me, and told me to get in the car. I called him a retard and kept walking, and he shot me in the back, which felt very warm, and then I woke up.
>>108688727I'd daydream I have a wife and familly, and be happy.
>>108699667>Americans dream about getting shot in parking lotsgrim
>>108699707rent free
>>108699707lmao
>>108688443Because it's nu-tech scam shit. Because it obviously doesn't work there's nothing to advertise unless you want to be filed under false advertisement lawsuit. Which is why you go around it and pretend it's already an established thing and the customer is the dumb one for not understanding that.
>>108690596Look at this weenie lol
I don't think I'ver dreamt about a girl, all of my sexual dreams have just involved me beating off. For a really long time as well, because it takes forever to cum in my dreams.
i dont want to lucid dream anymore. waking up to this nightmare everyday is getting worse and worse
>>108699922then work on fixing your stupid fucking life
>>108697679>What do you think your friend jenny would say is in the box if she saw it>doesn't specify before or after openingJust run all psychtards off a cliff at this point.
>>108703912>Let's close the box.>doesn't specify before or after opening
>>108689573That didn't change from before. Always slept next to phone and disabled wifi from the router.
>>108704045>If I ran through this same procedure with Jenny, What do you think Jenny would say is in the box?>What do you think Jenny would say upon first seeing the box. The fact that you don't understand this simple flaw, that you pretend it doesn't exist, puts you somewhere around fetus-level intelligence. I suggest immediate self abortion.
>>108704045What does closing a box have to do with opening it? Are you on drugs?
>>108688640I was looking for this postthank you brother
>>108691291light switches don't work in dreamsmake it a habit of checking them irlalso oversleep, it's easiest to do in surplus oversleep dreamsalso keep a dream journal
>>108704082>>108704094the midwit duo
>>108687812>We barely understand what lucid dreaming isis you for real nigguh? I discovered this shit like 20 years ago and the amount of tutorials on it is insane.
>>108689615>Becoming demon possessed.what about possessing them? can i do that with this device?
>Today we are launching the goyband.>These devices will reduce anti-semitism in the user by up to 6 million per cent.
After seeing this thread I spent the last two nights before bed telling myself I would dream tonight, I would remember my dream, and I will realize I’m dreaming while I’m dreaming. Last night I had a dream where there was some model advertising gummy candies or something. She was wearing some kind of dark colored top kind of like the top part of a Japanese bunny girl suit. I started pulling down her left cup to take her tit out and rub my dick against it. She pulled it back up but didn’t seem to recognize I was there or really react at all other than pulling her cup back up. I then pulled her right cup down and rubbed my cock against that tit. I started to jizz in the dream and in real life and instantly woke up jizzing. I don’t think I was lucid in the dream but I do think I influenced myself into having the dream.
>>108687773How long before Jews use this to pipe ads into your dreams? I hate the Antichrist and renounce the Talmud.
>>108705064Kek
if you cant program your dream by wathing 8 hours of tv how is an ultrasonic headband going to help?
>>108687773on demand lucid dreaming - the ANONs way>be sleeping>set alarm clock, wake up so you are highly alert, walk around, splash cold water at your face>go back to SLEEP>BOOM - LUCID DREAMS