I've used linux for 15 years. Never spoken about it too a soul. Just recently joined a linux server. These people are unbearable. Quit server same day. No wonder we have a bad reputation.

>>108690871
Never touched any of those.
The OS is less worse than Windows, which is why i use it, but if Windows ever get good again i will move to it.

>>108690871
People you would be embarrassed to be in the same room with.

>>108690871
A lot of normalcattle have migrated to it, so it's gone down hill quite a bit.

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>>108691257
Too bad, you will be one with em now.

>>108690871
I use my OS for the OS, but if I wanted an OS for the community Windows would be a better option.

>>108690871
i wonder whose idea was it to build an identity around a fucking computer operating system

>>108690871
Still worthy of admiration despite the tranny infestation.

Their priorities seem to be about being as rabidly anti-Microsoft as possible.

>>108690871
I have nothing positive to say about them. Windows 11, btw.

>>108690871
>What do you think about Linux userbase and community?
I like them in general, using linux is in 90% of the cases a personal choice, mostly because of security, privacy, performance or just as a learning experience, so that's cool "we" have something in common and to talk about.

But what do I really think? I mean it's an OS you could ask me what I think about Windows/MacOS, it's just an OS and the majority are "normal" people in the grand scheme. But Linux is also ideological driven and has vocal people on every possible "extremist" side. If you have a hardcore leftist or right winger and he uses Windows, nobody would care.

But the community in general is mostly privacy cautious, interested in hard and software and supportive.

>>108690871
As obnoxious as macfags but as broke as wintoddlers.

>>108690871
>Linux
great
>userbase
good
>community
cringe

>>108690871
It kinda depends. I find /g/tards to be more likable than lintroons, but that's mostly due to my political leanings. The reality is though that 90% of Linux users are normal people. A lot of the times they are mid 40s sysadmins and programmers that simply aren't tapped into the politics surrounding the various distros, Wayland, and systemd. They're literally just normal guys who go home and turn on their Ubuntu or CentOS or Slackware box and use their computer as normal, for fairly normal tasks. I met a friend of a friend yesterday and turns out he uses Linux too, we get to talking and he has no clue what a display server or init system or even what a repository is. The guy literally just uses mint for a plex server he has running at home. This is who a lot of Linux users are, and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>108690896
this is normal. people who are active in such communities are mostly noobs. and to top it off, the majority are "enthusiastic" youngsters too. so, you have the combination of cluelessness, immaturity, and zealotry, all wrapped in one.
i roamed linux/distro forums and mailing lists for a while around ~15-20 years ago. back then, i could fit the description above, although i would like to think that i was more helpful than obnoxious. back then, i didn't know how to code beyond some shell scripting and very basic python and C.
i stopped engaging at some point. and it's no surprise that it probably came when i actually grew into a developer, and slightly older and wiser.
nowadays, i wouldn’t even know what goes on in these communities, even though i randomly contribute to some of them from time to time.

>>108690871
>Linux
Joke
>Userbase
Small and irrelevant
>Community
cringe

>>108692244
>projected concerns of relevancy
linux haters are all children, im convinced

>>108690896
Same, I see posts on social media all the time about how the Linux community is toxic. Which is strange to me since my exposure comes from mailing lists, forums and /fglt/, but they always reference Reddit and Discord.
What are we to do? "Bro go on 4chan and search /fglt/ it's way less toxic I swear!"

>>108690871
>userbase
very stable and continues growing as devs figure out how to further improve the ux
being the long-standing champion of servers has been a massive benefit to linux's development and architecture/perf improvements over the years
>community
lot of weirdos but not linux's fault, really. anyone that wants to talk about their os are almost always ill-informed social maladjusts (which is why most arguments devolve into slinging stereotypes and random opinions back and forth)
imo if you use a normie distro it's not as bad as people say, and if you use a distro for weirdos (like arch) you're already pre-selecting for a higher percentage of highly opinionated, and prob midwit, autists (t. arch btw)
depends heavily on where you look but it IS possible to just use linux like a normie would, and only google if you need to solve a specific problem (or use chatbot)
people that are being productive on linux are busy being productive. people that aren't are posting on 4chan

I don't think about or engage them. I use linux the same way I used to use windows, to make my computer do works I need it to.

>>108690871
Collectively they have touched one boob in their lifetime, questionable if it was female boob.
Instead of working on software/hardware, they prefer to fix their microwave each time they try to do something.

>>108690871
>Linux userbase and community?
All they do is talk about Claude Code 24/7

>>108690871
>>108690896
>>108691580
>>108692321
idk what you mean by community is every 14 yearold nigger who want to be haxxor is part of this community or is it the development/maintainers group or what?

>>108690871
I don't think about them at all, I have more important things to worry about
>t. linux user

>>108692955
Hitler was a vegan.

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I used ubuntu for years and never mentioned it. Installed Arch linux and had an immediate and overwhelming urge to tell everyone that I use arch btw. I don't know how or why it happened, but it was innate and visceral.
I switched to CachyOS and the urge vanished, even though it's still Arch.

>>108692955
>fell for the statcounter meme

>>108690871
The most obnoxious tech community right now.
Bunch of mouth breathing retards who pretend they're smart because they put an iso file on an usb stick.

>>108690871
I don't interact with it a lot as a Linux newbie but I do enjoy reading /fglt/.

>>108693202
Hitler was a loser.

>>108693202
The Jews love Adolf Hitler

>>108690871
Linux is only used by corpos and a bunch of weird unemployed people. Also programmers, but it's mostly for style points, they'd use mint or ubuntu if not the reputation of it being "too easy". In fact most of them do so regardless, they see it as a tool. It is a tool.
>>108691329
When you need to hire a lot of people, but do not want to fund their training, you pay "influencers" to shill all kinds of bs to make things popular.
Although some questions are still unanswered. Like, who the fuck actually needs arch? For anything slim there used to be gentoo, nowadays there are even more specialized and streamlined alternatives. Why arch? What's the point? Literally nobody needs that. Is it to keep unemployed people unemployed or something?
Like when those gentoo people realised what it was, they desided to prevent the amount of competition by shilling arch as an act of gatekeeping?

I've used arch for several years since 2006 and I can tell you that systemd, weebs and ricers ruined it. Good as a base for proper distros, but the community is utter crap.

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>>108690871
The Linux community is split into two groups. Roughly 90% of them have a superiority complex, believing that anyone not using Linux is unintelligent. This group tends to be hostile toward AI, corporations, and Mac users they even attack people within the community for using different distributions. They are often toxic and would rather mock a beginner than offer help. On the other hand, the remaining 10% are incredibly helpful and grounded, viewing Linux as just another operating system.

>>108694559
>but the community is utter crap.
so you have to go to website from other AI chatbot platform and ask for other linux problem solutions
i don't need to interact with the linux community mostly

>>108690871
Way too obsessed with Microsoft Windows.

>>108692321
Probably just means you're one of the toxic people so your anti-social behavior seems normal to you.

>>108693361
more of this art please I need to jerk off

>>108690896
the worst are faggots wearing it like some badge of honor

go on twitch and see shit like "linux user" "streams on linux" in the tags, just insufferable cunts

>t. using slackware since 96

>>108694747
you are definitely a newfag

if you were around on irc in the late 90s in any linux channel asking for help you were told to read the fucking manual and gate kept unless you proved you were doing some attempts to try to solve things on your own, the linux community has always been full of assholes but new distros making it easy and shit like the arch wiki has made newfags like you make you think your special and smart because you can follow lego instructions

couple that with AI chatbots to help you with issues now it's never been easier but newfags will try to act superior

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>>108693361
>>I switched to CachyOS
let me look at the discord server from the linux distribution
>This is a LGBTQ+ safe place, and so it is forbidden to provoke and insult LGBTQ+ people.
what's this?

>>108690871
Computers are just tools, so it seems pretty weird to think about operating system "communities" or hallucinate about what their userbases might be like. Like, who are you gonna daydream about next, the air fryer userbase? The hammer community?

>>108694927
CD bundled with a huge book?

>>108695041
i got slackware from berkley eu's ftp and overwrote my mom's win95 floppy disks to install it, lol

>>108695054
*berkely edu

>linux
good
>community
havent engaged with it other than seeing cringe memes and windows/mac slander on reddit
i used to use arch but i got a new pc and got lazy to setup all the stuff im fine with windows 10 if im going to switch ill go with debian or fedora they look solid

>>108695193
>windows/mac slander on reddit
i dont like windows/mac slander memes

>>108695225
>recycling same ideas from 2010 u should laugh bro le windows updates bro why arent u laughing bro?
same its cringe as fuck

>>108690896
>>108694927
Similar to many generals on 4choy. You might like topic, but you check out /topicg/ and it's a bunch of schizos and drama queens.

>>108690871
>Linux
Works well enough for what I want. Best I've tried thus far, though I wouldn't use it at work.
>userbase
Helpful at times, writes better tutorials on doing shit than than Windows userbase.
>community
Does not exist, communities are at max 20 people and even that's stretching it. Any "community" as commonly stated is a large group of people with a similar, vague interest.
There are some personality cults I like to check out. Luke Smith and Mental Outlaw are cool, mostly when they make tutorials.
I'm still learning.

>>108690871
Obnoxious midwit know-it-all faggots in their 30s to 40s who exclusively listen to death metal in FLAC. Exactly the kind of mouthbreathers who would endlessly argue here about DEs, text editors and keyboards.

>>108690871
What's wrong with the Linux community?

There's not one community, there's too many. There's so much fucking segregation over there. Immutability creates a cult. Display servers create another cult. Even the fucking filesystem you use has a dedicated group of people that shit on it.
What kills me is this group of windows rapefugees that act like they found perfection and will really, really get pissy and aggressive if you tell them that their little new OS they just found out about does have a few problems. They're way, way worse than any veteran.

>>108694939
Describes the superiority complex
>>108694939
Example appears in replies.

How did our midwit friend fail to appreciate the irony?

>>108694987
There are some groups quite like this. Go tell Fluke fans about another multimeter.

>The hammer community?
Kek it's a thing. What's the matter, too poor for a Stiletto?

>>108690871
The Linux community is the biggest malignant tumor on desktop Linux that's actively destroying it and it's potential to become a viable Windows alternative, and has been successful at it for over three decades straight.

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>>108695671
It reminds me of a sci-fi game with a bunch of different factions.

Meant to include >>108694747 in >>108696938

>>108690871
always defensive when telling them their os is not up to standards, even worse that they are blindly following the digital id stuff, like wtf, is not linux supposed to go counterculture in that regard? it's all just a contradictory mess

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Basically this.

>>108698237
My room isn't quite that bad, but I do keep some mustard packets around. At least two.

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>>108698243
Maybe you're closer to the European variety?

>>108698243
>but I do keep some mustard packets around
Gotta stay hydrated.

>>108698261
For me, It's vape, the coffee mug that never gets cleaned, there would be some empty 2-liters of coke if I hadn't quit drinking soda, a beer that's 3/4 full that's been there for months, a decorative empty jager bottle, some empty saltine sleeves, and a jar of hot pickled okra.

>>108698261
I do need to clean my desk off. I got a quarter broken off of a chick in a biscuit cracker sitting under my monitor, but I have take all the shit off of my desk. That and some clutter: coins, old vape tanks, empty vape juice bottles. It's about spring cleanin' time.

>>108690871
>What do you think about Linux
Good shit I love it.
>userbase and community?
Oh, fuck them all.

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>>108698331
Stop vaping, that shit is terrible for you.

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Ideally, you want the developers and community to look like this. Somewhere it went horribly wrong.

>>108698990
Polo shirts suck.

>>108698990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehqmIQHSHfw

>>108696977
>The Linux community is the biggest malignant tumor on desktop Linux that's actively destroying it and it's potential to become a viable Windows alternative, and has been successful at it for over three decades straight.
Just don't interact with the Linux community

I can handle obnoxious people if they're contributors. What I hate are the annoying know-it-all zealots who probably aren't contributing anything but noise.

>>108690871
I used to dislike loonix because of loonixtards, but I'm starting to chang my mind slowly. I like to imagine every single linux user is a very cute androgynous 18yo boy wearing a flat chastity cage and thigh high socks, so I don't get annoyed by them being bratty and proselytizing cute little caged anons. Them calling you a dumb windows user or saying skill issue is much hotter if you imagine them like that.

What I hate is denial and liars
I've seen a decent amount of people, often outside this site even, who deny the existence of issues in regards to linux. It's obviously full of volunteers and it's obviously not expected to have perfect software or hardware support, but some people in these communities just blatantly deny that. You can find something that either hasn't been worked on in years, or there's no such thing as a driver, or anything from the manufacturer or reverse engineered, no "success stories" or anything like that, and you will still get the usual "user error, works on my machine". Without showing that's indeed the case.

>>108690871
I just use the Linux kernel and don't think about its userbase or community at all

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>>108694918
I did one for every major distro. What's your flavour?
>>108694950
Fags being faggy. I don't need to interact with them.

Linux wants to be free yet they still try to Wine Adobe products instead of improving the Gimp.

>>108701169
photoshop cs6 works better than gimp

>>108701160
whichever has similar clothing to Arch, it's really hot

>>108698331
>old vape tanks, empty vape juice bottles
Be careful, vape has batteries inside

>>108701160
>>108701704 (Me)
do Nix-tan

>userbase
They're fine. I can respect people who wish to move into other operating systems whether to depend less on Microsoft or purely out of curiosity or desire to do so regardless.
>community
Bunch of autistic and pedantic faggots that can't spend a single fucking day without arguing about the most inane shit imaginable. I hate them.

>>108701131
Pretty much this.
And the question is gay anyway, Linux userbase has so many fucking people it covers everyone from cool guys to normalfags to being a Linux tinkertranny for attention.

>>108695671
I'm a fairly recent refugee and I'm using Fedora. It's mostly a very good experience but anyone who says it has no problems or is more stable than Windows is overselling it. From my experience the nature of problems is different on Linux. On Windows (10 at least) it was more like you have certain annoying problems that persist but everything is very stable. On Linux any consistent problems I had like "audio is not working" were easy to get around and fix permanently after reading some wikis but on the other hand I sometimes run into bizarre shit where something misbehaves just for a while and I don't know why and then I never have a problem with it again. So it's like stability in everything including bad stuff on Windows vs the ability to make things work better but running into more unexpected situations on Linux. But overall I decided to stay on Fedora since it doesn't give me the unsolvable headaches I had on Windows related to my specific bluetooth and monitor hardware.

>>108703203
In my experience with windows, most people know it sucks and what sucks about it, so developers target these problems and try (within constraints, because Microsoft loves to lock things down) to mitigate them with simple tools. Hence why there's so many fucking tweaking tools readily available. Its popularity went down the toilet (well to be fair, Windows was never really all that great, and a lot of computer savvy people hated it and microsoft all the way back to the fucking 90s, it is in fact more difficult to find people praising microsoft at any given point in time) so its users are sort of unified in the sense that they know it fucking sucks and they try to get rid of the problems. And usually these are not that difficult to identify.
On linux (which is what I'm using, btw, and been using for quite a good fucking while now) there's more friction. You have groups of people acting as though what's wrong isn't all that wrong, it's just "their way of doing things". If there's a limitation, you can't complain because it's free/volunteer software. You have easier bug reporting and direct interaction with developers as well as access to a lot of fucking code so you can "do it yourself", but how effective that all is depends more on your own skills and the people you run into in these communities than anything else (including the developers themselves). What on windows is universal suck, in here it can be just "your opinion".

>>108690871
Absolute cesspool of retards which is being upheld by the talent of maybe 5% of the userbase/community.
This thing is flooded with people that INSTEAD OF GOOD DEVELOPMENT would much rather focus on:
>Gender politics
Actually fuck all kinds of politics, specially the ones that aggresively try to crawl their way inside, I'm not a /pol/tard so fuck the retards that equate "jeet=bad", but if I see a jeet making shit code I'm going to be xenophobic just in the name of being offensive enough to make them fuck off. My focus is the software itself not being ass.
>Philosophy of software development methodology and ideals instead of it's qualities and execution
aka Stallman mentality vs Torvalds mentality. FLOSS is cool from a conceptual standpoint but if the theory doesn't translates into practice then being vegan about it is the signature of a fucking retard
>"just fooken commit it lmao"
inb4 shit's reliant on other shitty software and god forbid the guilty project involved actually ends up pumping out a program that gains traction.
>"How can we make this environment more pleasant for windows users?"
Sure, corpos found a way to make normie computing itself profitable, so sure, let inside the fucking cattle that would much rather BE the product instead of consuming A product. They DEFINITIVELY won't drag inside all of this shit, it could never go wrong!

>>108692285
Maybe. I remember being pretty anti-Linux when I was in high school just because the only time I ever heard about it was when some goober was getting all smarmy-ass about using it and hating Microsoft.

These days I use it in a few cases (an old laptop that's too slow for Windows, a pi hole, steam deck), and it's got it's advantages over Windows. But it's got drawbacks too (and not just compatibility).

Two decades ago it must have been real horseshit as a desktop option

>>108703726
NTA but I still hate desktop Linux but I'm not anti-Linux. I run a Proxmox box, I know how to navigate a command line, I like playing with desktop Linux from time to time. I still prefer Windows as my daily driver, I'm well versed in tard wrangling it since I grew up on 98, XP and 2000, so I have developed some serious troubleshooting skills and knowledge of the OS, including various handy third party programs to make my life easier.

I just really hate how obnoxious LInux users have gotten ever since the release of the Steam Deck and Windows 11. The Linux community really is it's best anti-advertisement.

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>>108704917
Holy shit that's really nice. What's your setup? I'd like to tweak her design

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>>108704917
>Reproducible

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>>108704926
GPT Image 2.

>>108705009
Sweet, thanks. Time to make my Nix waifu and get depressed over my life.

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>>108705009
Why make a computer generate the laziest art style known to man?

>>108705206
Would certainly plow, if you know what I mean. I do like a mature kernel.

>>108705206
Because I like anime. You are free to do as you like, and I like what you did.

>>108704936
lmfao

>>108703515
>Absolute cesspool of retards which is being upheld by the talent of maybe 5% of the userbase/community.
To be fair, this describes pretty much any society, especially in modern times.

>>108691580
just letting you know that this post is too long so I didn't read it

>>108694950
Also when I try out a window manager or even a distro like cachyos, it comes with preloaded anime waifu wallpapers. Which to to me comes across as really unprofessional, if I want waifus on my computer then I'll do it myself.

>>108707770
Cachy is just a group of people, not a company. They don't need to be professional, and they know their audience.