>0MB of RAM>0MB of SSD>$99Make it make sense
>>108691887that thing has at least 32kb ram, hence the price
controllers being expensive is fucked. the difference a console one and a chinese knockoff is like 50 bucks in price and exactly the same quality.
Is the original worth anything?
>>108691887Still would get it.
>>108691910PS5 controller is goated though. Rumbling is good, it has speakers.
>>108691887>Make it make senseit's in line with other controllers. are you under the belief that only RAM and SSD cost money?
>>108691887>Make it make senseIt's a sophisticated controller, you can watch a video on it.You can just use cheap controllers if you want.
>>108691961>>108692025It’s not real, nothing on twitter is real. You got clickbait by a loser on the internet.
>>108691887It's not that bad unless you're that poor.
>>108691887
>>108692100im that poor =/
>>108691887bro you ate basically getting a deck minus screen and APUif u think of it that way, it is a steal
>>108691972A battery that lasts 6 hours new and 40 minutes when a year old as well
>>108691887All consumer electronics should be sold at two, functionally identifical tiers:>poorfag editionmade of cheap plastic, overall shittier quality, designed to meet a price point acceptable for unemployed or 3rd worlders>working man editionmade of higher quality materials, better but functionally the same technology, price set to reasonably reflect the materials/tech costsI fucking hate getting shittier products just because their price tag has to sit well with the general public
>>108691910>the difference a console one and a chinese knockoff is like 50 bucks in price and exactly the same qualityThat's absolute bullshit. ...the Chinese knock-offs are actually far higher quality than Sony or Microsoft official controllers. I bought an 8BitDo Pro 3 for $35 a while back and that has TMR sticks, Hall triggers with an optional hair lock, motion controls, a fantastic d-pad, swappable face buttons, four exta programmable buttons (no software required) and even comes with a high quality charging dock that doubles as a place to house the 2.4GHz adapter so it only takes up one USB port (plus it also supports wired or Bluetooth connection and works with just about everything). Don't like the PlayStation stick layout? Their Ultimate range is the same stuff but Xbox-shaped.Official console controllers are an overpriced embarrassment and as someone who doesn't care about trackpads, I see no reason why I'd pay Valve $100 for this thing either.
>>108691887Can't shrinkflation a controller like you can software.
>>108692521>start a company making cheap knockoffs of retro controllers>end up dominating the modern controller space, putting everyone else to shameHow do they do it?
>>108691887Na, it definitely has some RAM in it.
>>108691887FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>108692546by not being kikes
>>108692521for me it's the m30
>>108692521>Chinesium numba 1I call bullshit. If the chinks realized their half priced controller provided superior quality to OEM, they'd immediately search for ways to further cut costs to keep more of the profit.There is no way around it, that's their profit model and it works incredibly well.If they were to try and compete for quality, it would literally go against everything the chink knockoff strategy stands for.
steam drm users would buy it at any price as long as it has a valve brand.
>>108692521Too bad the ultimate series only uses the retarded xbox layout and not the superior symmetrical one.If they fix it, I will use their controller, otherwise, not work the free tendonitis.
AI data centers need all kind of electronics not just memoryPlus shipping parts and products got a lot more expensive with America's latest tardfit
one touch pad is enough
>>108691887Looks like the Atari jaguar controller
>>108692625>I call bullshit.And that's why they are making money while you are spergposting on a vietnamese pearldiving forum.
>>108691887Why the fuck would a REMOTE CONTROL have RAM or a SSD???Make (You) make sense.
>>108691887cucks bought, and are still buying the underpowered dogshit deck, might as well milk the willing dry
>>108692794OP is arguing that the product should be sold for less than $99 because only products which include RAM and/or an SSD can justify prices as high as $99.
>>108691887where is the hole for my peinushow is this a complete input device with force feedback
>>108692805>underpoweredOnly if you have bad (modern) taste in games, my friend. And don't forget, you still haven't finished you backlog of older games that are good.
>>108692811Thank you for explaining. OP is clearly a raging moron.
>>1086925085-10 years of warranty is something I would pay forif I could get something indestructible like my gen1 g502 for like 150-200 bucks I would not complain
>>108692546>How do they do it?Patent expiration and always selling the last generation of tech. They aren't razor and they aren't thrustmaster or logitech. They don't have a single product that is premium. They are the madkatz of the here and now.
>>108692508>working man editionNever going to happen in the tech space where everything is bound by logic boards and silicon.
>>108691972>left stick on the bottom>goatedlol
>>108692625thats how their business model workssell good value products and built up a brand and then cash out by selling increasingly bad garbage at high margins
>>108691887$100 is steep, I would have preferred 80 or 90 but you get TMR sticks, two haptic touchpads, gyro, haptic triggers, extra buttons and nearly infinite customisation.Most importantly it will be a lot cheaper than a DualSense or Xbox controller in the long run, because the sticks won't start drifting after a few months.I don't understand how anyone can still defend potentiometer analogue sticks being the default, it's obviously designed to fail and it's a pain in the ass to replace for anyone without a soldering station and desoldering tool.
>>108692546lower overhead costs due to complete lack of warranty and local representation + accepting lower margins
>>108691887>he doesn't have the Skirk controllerngmi
>>108692521this sounds like a shill but it's true, I replaced my xbox one controller with 8bitdo the cheapest chinkshit version and it feels more robust in my hands
They implement Hall effect sticks and more buttons at a faster rate. Logitech meanwhile still has that PS2 controller knockoff that sunk that submarine
>>108692625Brother I spent most of last year in China and it is crazy the amount of shit you can get of really good quality for crazy cheap. Like I bought a USB condenser mic for something like $20, it's a Boya K3 it's really good for the price, then I come back and they're being sold for like $100 each over here and that's considered pretty good value. Bluetooth speaker for around $30 which was outright better than the equivalent JBL and so on for less than a quarter of the price.
>>108691887>$99>Make it make senseStill cheaper than Razer's Esports controllers.
>>108692521>TMR sticks>Hall triggersthis is superfluous shit that only loser reddit/discord nerds have convinced themselves to give a shit aboutif companies who have made controllers for over 25 years haven't added those mechanisms, its either because they are unnecessary and don't do anything, or the market is so niche there is no financial incentive to add them, which is the same thing as them being unnecessary.>swappable face buttonsnobody gives a fuck>four extra programmable buttonsxbox series 2 elite and dualsense edge don't exist to you do they? shut the fuck up you gay ass nigger
>>108692925Cute girlWrong layout
>>108693000>things are cheap when you don't pay any import or vat tax, have zero consumer protection if it burns your house down, have no customer service support if it breaks in a year, when theyre "really good for the price i promise" and you have to fly to fucking china to get themI'll just pay $100 thanks, chang.
>>108691887It could have cost maybe $20 less at most. They're definitely not going for economy of scale bets here. The boutique/premium gamepads I've seen do cost $100 and even a little more with accessories and special colors and so on.
>>108692521>>108692546>>108693000>>108692625Amazing organic content that is totally not being typing into /g/ by a brownskinned room temperature scamjeet in a crowded office building in downtown Mumbai
>>108693082I too am being typing every day my fellow anon, becoming typing even. desu.
>>108691887It's a gyro pad that makes gyro usable. Other pads are either switch clones (that don't support analog triggers on this mode, and some have input latency on gyro), or the dualsense. These have no dedicated gyro toggle let alone the grips for readjustment.It's pricey but a lot of non-chinese gamepads are outrageously pricey when they start including basic things like non-standard drift prone analog sticks and back buttons. A lot of chinese controllers have those, but they fail to add anything new that more expensive "elite" controllers don't add. My primary issue with it is standards. This controller has no haptic feedback worth a shit (it cannot translate dualsense calls or anything similar for it), has very standard analog triggers, the d-pad is not talked about as though it's just an afterthought (the one on the deck is basically trash), essentially for an "every gimmick gamepad" it doesn't really have all of those. Standard vibration might as well be disabled in this day and age.Also the touchpads are something a lot of people are not actually gonna... touch. You can argue it's good for a computer you don't have easy access to (as in, you don't have a mouse or keyboard nearby), but aside from that the ones on the deck aren't all that precise. If something the surface creates some weird friction that doesn't allow that. And the puck is kind of fucking retarded. It's a thing that just sticks like a sore thumb. They give up on a classic dock where you can place your gamepad and instead you have this little thing hanging around with the argument that you could use it to charge while gaming. I have some charging cables laying around on my desktop and it's unsightly really. The way the cable looks it retains kinks like a shitty one.
>>108693227shut the fuck up
>>108691887PC games are controlled with mouse and keyboard, like God intended to
>>108691910Cope post.
I think $99 USD is too much for a controller with touchpads, I barely even use the touchpads even when I'm in desktop mode on the deck. Steam Machine wise I think people would be much happier with a nice chink controller and a wireless mouse, they'd still probably end up with money left over
>>108691887Dual trackpadGyroTMR ThumbsticksSensors on thumbsticksbuttons on the backIncluded 2.4G adaptermagnetic chargerAnd the cost adds up.Think of it as a pro controller
>>108691887>two touch pads (you will never use these)does the ps5 touch pad used for anything? no didn't think so.
>>108693034>>this is superfluous shit that only loser reddit/discord nerds have convinced themselves to give a shit about>Nooo this controller is not designed for me>it's shiiiiiiiit there's a million other controllers anonThis is a specialized controller that works well on things like RTS games or games that benefit from gyro(especially emulated titles) or even MMOs which more less require some kind of mouse input sometimes.This for PC if you don't like it, get another controller there's a fuck ton of brands out there.>>108693824The PS5 touchpad is not used because for some god forsaken reason it's placed in the middle blocked by the thumbsticks.Have you seen videos of how people map their trackpads on their steam decks to do various things per game?
I can get this for $30 tho
>>108691887how much is a joycon ? an elite xbox controller?
>>108693855>map their trackpads on their steam decks to do various things per game?no i stopped gaming in about 2008 when i quit twilight princess at about 90% because i realised that that the whole game
>>108692521For me, it's the GuliKit KK3.
>>108692521Trvke. Got a Pro 2 for $30 four years ago and it still works like a charm. I was thinking about consooming the new one with the Hall sticks but there is literally zero reason to.>>108693082Haha stay mad Shlomo. I will never, ever buy your overpriced shit again.
>>108693894...was a excuse to fap to midna.
>>108691887Probably still buying it, I've wanted something similar with trackpads for a while. Since you can buy with SCM funds, $99 isn't that awful. You could also choose to wait for the refurbished line.
>>108691887I just hope rumors that Steam frame is 1000+ dollars are fake.And if machine is 1599 like they say, it is over for valve.
>>108693868yes because theyre planned obsolescence scams, they release dogshit ovepriced controllers that break after a year so you buy more. even budget chinese controllers have to charge $20 for xbox wireless versions of their controllers even though theyre identical to the non xbox wireless version because microsoft force them to pay (so their official controllers seem better value)
>>108691887>$100 for a controller>in the market where $30-$50 3rd party controllers are significantly better than the $70 1st party controllersThis is DOA
A PC controller has no business costing $100"It's only $25 more than $75" well I don't even know what to say to that
>>108693026Those are built with better materials that last longer and more performance. The stupid Steam controller is a piece of junk that can misclick. No one uses the touch button during gameplay when games lock you into a mode. Not a single game offers free style controls.
>>108691887I just bought 3 8bitdo controllers for less than that and they cover both modern+retro+novelty
>>108691887$100 for a controller is pretty spicy but I guess I'd still buy one, since fucking nobody, not even the chinks, seems to make an equivalent to this thing so it's one of a kind.
>>108691887>available early 2026!>a third of the year gone alreadylmao, fucking valvetime never stops
>>108691887As a controller faggot, this will probably replace my DualSense. The Gyro is really good, I love it for first person games or any games where you have to aim and it's perfect for Wii emulation. The trackpads are great, making PC games playable on controller and menu navigating much better. + it's literally perfect for DS, 3Ds and even Wii emulation, being able to control the "pen" or "wii remote" with your thumb. The back buttons are a nice bonus and a must in 2026, even the Switch 2 Pro Controller has them now.The only negative I can think of is the lack of trigger stops. Without ever touching that piece of shit, I'll give it a 8/10.
>>108691887What games are you guys planning on playing with it? Which games would benefit from the trackpads?
>>108694551Annnd they'll work fine with the steembox or whatever they call it.>>108692035>twitterIt was on YouTube.Who are the "nothing is real" shills? What country? It's all over tiktok like ticks. "this isn't real" (it's C-Span's official account)
>>108691887It's got hall-effect sticks, more buttons, and an extra touchpad. I wouldn't buy one for $99, but I'd pay more for a Steam Controller than a PS5 controller.
>>108691887>only 25 dollars more than a PS5 controllerWhy are they comparing it to the cheap PS5 controller and not the 199 dollar one that the Steam Controller is comparable too? 99 dollars for the Steam controller is a great buy, look into the reviews and tests for the controller.
NOBODY HAS EXPLAINED WHY THIS COSTS $100
I thought $60 max off the first reveal$100 is crazy Does Valve actually want to sell these things? Who is gonna blow $200 on controllers when 99% of the market already owns one. Here are the main key points from the review:>No grips on the controller. The texture of the peripheral is slippery/plastic feeling.>It doesn’t come with an audio jack. >It connects to your PC with a wireless magnetic dongle that also charges it.>Does not have customizable thumbsticks and hair triggers.>Will have a launch price of $99.YO THESE CLOWNS ARE CRAZY
>It doesn’t come with an audio jack.For what purpose>Does not have customizable thumbsticks and hair triggers.This is not an xbox elite controller, their focus isn't to appeal to console FPS people
>be me>idort>steam, dualsense, ps4, xbo, 8bitdo pro1/3, switch pro 1/2, wiiu, mayflash adapters for retro and etc>play any game any time with any controller feel>getting this toosimple as.>maybe even steamcube depending on pricing
>>108692521>the Chinese knock-offs are actually far higher quality than Sony or Microsoft official controllers8BitDo shills I swearI had a Pro 2. That flimsy piece of shit developed PCB issues within a single month. I was unable to use it wired. The fitting is ass, if you shook the thing everything would rattle, and the D-pad was flimsy. You can move the rubber cross around and press multiple directions at once.I managed to return it, splurged out on an XSX controller instead, and the quality leap is incomparable. The fitting is much tighter, basically nothing rattles, the shape itself is much more ergonomic than whatever the fuck the Pro 2/3 is meant to be. I'd never buy an 8BitDo after that again, I even checked one of their Ultimate controllers at a store once and it had all the same quality issues my Pro 2 had.Oh yeah, and the Pro 2 had software tricks to come off better in the circularity tests that don't mean shit, which is just peak chinkshit upselling. After that I can never look at (You) faggot shills and treat you seriously.>bro just buy 8bitdo bro china numba wan8BitDo is representative of the absolute worst traits of Chinese products and it's existence is doing a disservice to Shenzhen's reputation.If you need a controller for your PC, just get the XSX one. Don't cheap out.>b-but muh stick driftYou mean the stick drift that somehow is barely reported on Microsoft's controllers, and people only say that they drift because the PS5 controller continuously does and just so happens to use the same Alps potentiometers? If they were the culprit then there's a major disproportion in stick drive between PS5 and XSX controllers.
>>108693048You do know you're getting the exact same product, you're just paying more to keep the capitalist overlords happy.
>>108691887Should have priced it at $200. Steamies still would have bought it due to blind fanboyism
Gamers are really poor aren't they
>>108691887Why so cheap?? Nooo, Valve will go bankrupt...!
Shouldn't be a problem if you earn 80k annually. Which is not even an impressive salary
>>108691899they cheaped tf out, its gonna run like shit lmaovalvecucks will defend this
>>108697031t. poor thirdie
>>108697238mad steamie. we all know you would have bought one even at $300.
>>108691887$99? i will buy itwhat are you fucking poor?
>>108696889not any of those anons but i have had that xbox controller in your pic for uhhhh8 years or some shit and i have thrown it in the wall multiple times, still works.
>>108691887i bought an xbox elite series 2 when i needed a controller and that was like 150 dollarsif i gamed more with a controller id probably be fine with 100 dollars but i already have controllers so i dont need it
>>108697286Microsoft spent $100mil to develop it back in 2013 btw so no wonder they haven't changed much about it
>>108692866>razer>premium
>>108692866>They are the madkatz of the here and nowOi. I had some MadCatz trash controller for my N64. 8bitdo is anything but.
>>108692546by not being jewishseriously, if you haven't realized this yet you have a ways to go
>>108692866madcatz was mostly garbage quality but they ended up making the RAT mouse which kicked ass (i never bought one)then they fucking diedas for the people saying theyre not jewish, theyre chinks which is better than jews but just means you get reasonably quality shit at cheap prices
>>108692625>I call bullshitI detect muttcope
>>108693894>i stopped gamingwtf makes you think you have a say in this thread then?
>>108691887Valve isn't subsidizing their hardware like other vendors do. So you get charged the full price on everything.
>>108692601they're chinks, nigger, and they're not you're friends. they use slave labor, subsidized shipping through the wto and historical tariff hacks enabled by complicit politicians who don't care about their own national econmies. kikes wish they were as good at this shit as the chinese. ever asked yourself why it's cheaper to ship from china than across the us? it's not, you're just paying the chinese twice and you don't even realize.
All controllers converge toward the goat.
>>108691887>100 for controller>1600 for valve pc>1100 for a vr headsetwtf valve :(
>>108697559I have the older version but it's still working perfectly and I love the size of it
>>108691887I use BigBigWon chink shit and its all gravy
>>108693914The new one has TMR sticks and it'd be great if the battery was removable and could also use aa batteries like the second one but they went full consoom planned obsolescence with it and you have to tear the whole thing apart to get to it.So if you have the Pro 2 it's not really worth it to "upgrade".
>>108694544How do you know that? Do you have one? Have you even touched it yet? It isn't even out yet.
if you don't want to buy a dualsense or an exbox just get one of these. why waste money on that gimmicky shit?
>>108697051Most of /g/ is unemployed, the Chinese shit and 15 year old thinkpads running a minimal DE aren’t aesthetic choices but rather a way in which board dwellers managed to adapt to their love of technology while being on a budget, some people outside of the website stole these for aesthetic reasons though. Think about how rich hipsters used to drink PBR to seem working class while actual working class people bought it because it was the cheapest shit.
>>108698189>no touchpadsNo, fuck off and tell the gamesaars to make an actual equivalent to the gabepad.
>>108693861onahole?
steam machine status (late april 2026) ?
>>108692907>China is JapanYou've got your insect species confused.
>>108692170kek
>>108692764if you are blind sure
>>108696889If you think the xsx controller is any good, then I don't even want to imagine this Chinese one. I have an xsx controller and it's so low quality that I'm honestly impressed with how poorly made it is. Probably the lowest quality item I own after my super slim PS3.
>>108696889>developed PCB issues within a single monthStopped reading right there. What the fuck are you talking about, "PCB issues"? It's a solid state lump of copper, fiberglass, and enamel coating.nvm we shouldn't be giving yids attention
>$99 is too muchnigger xbox is selling it for moreA dogshit Switch controller is fucking $90
>>108699671Oh you naive dumb fuck. I don't know what he's talking about, but PCBs getting fucked up (in normal use) kills hundreds of RTX 4090s. The chance that it will happen to you if you own a 4090 is really low, but the numbers are adequate enough that there are people who make money fixing these and never run out of work.A PCB isn't some magical component that never breaks. Nor are all PCBs the same quality. Some are very low quality.
>>108699671>retards will write anything: the post>>108699691>A PCB isn't some magical component that never breaksmorons on this website are stupid as fuck and don't know anything about electronics and think electronics are manufactured and designed by magical wizards that possess secret knowledge
>>108699671>>108699691PCB, electronics, whatever. Shit was failing on hardware level. I was using it on Bluetooth, suddenly it wouldn't connect to the dongle. Okay, I'll use it wired. Guess what, the amazing quality of these controllers people love to shill caused it to forget how to work on wired mode. It would try to connect to a wireless dongle no matter what and ignore any inputs for repairing or ignore the fact that it's hooked up to a PC.But sure, say that you're right and your precious scam company is being unrightfully attacked because someone with a first hand experience of their amazing QC used the wrong word. Be my guest, prove me right.8BitDo is astroturfed garbage.>>108699622It's not super duper premium, but it's good enough. This shit gets thrown in tard rage so it has to meet a baseline build quality standard. Microsoft knows what they're doing. Unlike 8BitDo that only knows how to scam the gweilo through their memberberries.
>>108699753>>108699691t. seething midwits who've added precisely 0 (zero) to the conversation Could you at least halfassedly point in the direction of thermal expansion faults and then get laughed at for raising such an argument in the context of a controller? Zoomies are a plight, i swear.
>>108700538>most retarded retard alive is ragingyou make other retards cringe. you shouldn't have left school at yr5.
>>108700562meds
>>108697706>$1600That's not happening, it would be DOA, you can a prebuilt for less that will outperform the Steam Cube.
>>108700597it's just one retard spreading fake prices for the frame and machine
>>108693914I have one of these and the D-pad is the worst piece of shit I've ever used.Decent controller otherwise though.
>>108691887Yeah I'll stick with my $12 8bitdo.
Does anyone actually like these things?Honest question. I don't even hate them, I just can't figure out WHAT I think about them. Do they "work"? I can't even tell if they're better than just using analog sticks.
>>108700804Yes, they're great. They're not useful for every game, but having them makes the controller way more versatile.
>>108700804They work very well.At their most basic using mouse input style, they're thumb-sized laptop trackpads which enables you to do mouse interaction without switching away from your controller.But you can also macro the fuck out of them with swipe directional gestures. Essentially giving you four extra mappable action per pad.And some games actually do have native touchpad support.E.g. Okami HD actually supports it for painting.
>>108691887It has trackpads, extra buttons, gyro, capacitive things at the back, the magnetic charging base + latencyless wireless connector, those analog sticks that won't wear down with aids.It's more expensive than I hoped for but I'll still buy it.
>>108692900as it should be
>>108700804Amazing on deck. Use in almost any game I play on it
>>108691887$99 and i guarantee the d-pad sucks absolute ballsMy PS4 controller has stick drift and it's fucked how much they try to rip you off on these. You cannot convince me a PS4 controller cost more than like $5 to manufacture. Steam controller slightly more perhaps but the margin has to be insane. Fuck that>>108692460I want to believe this is a joke but your way of typing suggests sincere 'tardatiob
>>108691887>only 25 more than the ps5 controller>only 25>onlyThat is how much I paid for my 8bitdo which works great, who writes this shit?
>>108693914the left stick started to drift after about 2 years
>>108691887They know nobody wants a shitcube so they're going to use these to subsidize its price
>>108701095>shitcubeWHAT DE FUCK
:>>108691887Lord Gabe needs his new yacht, you will-oblige.
>>108700891Also it's compatible with the VR too
>>108700804Actually amazing. You ca use them like a mouse or you can set up gestures, taps, etc. You can also use them to bring up mini hotbars or inventory or whatever.The trackpads on the OG controller were amazing too but the square ones are a lot better.
>>108696497>Plastic is badWho the fuck wants rubber dogshit on their controller that disintegrates eventually with all the dead skin cells mixing into it. >Audio jackNobody cares about this unironically, 99% of people have wireless headsets.>Muh customizable perks!Only trannies need that shit, nobody be looking at their controller while gaming>99$ This is a pro controller meaning it's competing with Xbox and Sony pro controllers that are more than double the price.>But muh 8bitdoDogshit shape made for tranny hands!
>>108691887deal. I will also sell my ps5 in the process
>>108701214Sorry tranny, PC gamers already own better rigs. Now we have to subsidize its price by paying more for what we actually want - the controller
just 3 more hours...
>>108692546You can win by simply making no mistakes.
>>108701348No one use it like that and current technology can make game controllers do the exact same thing. Steam Controller is a junk product.
>>108701095nigga, it's a more mainstream product than the deckplenty of consolefags and casuals too scared for computers, this is a controlled learning environment, you can always retreat to safety
Literally nothing about this is worth $99Except the trackpads. For anyone who owned/owns a steam deck this thing is easily worth that because they understand how integral controller trackpads are to PC games They solve the number one issue with all controllers which is the horrific lack of precision without removing the stick entirely like the original steam controller. It's pretty much a perfect solution >>108693227>Also the touchpads are something a lot of people are not actually gonna... touchThey're definitely still worse than stick and gyro for precision in fps but where they stand out is compatibility. Any sort of menuing that intends you use a mouse is obviously the most important but they also come into play whenever gyro isn't reasonable i.e. lying in bed/travel and offer a good enough alternative while still being miles better than sticks
>>108702116>No one use it like thatI do on my steam deck, custom radial menus and hotbars are a game changers for certain games, unironically
>>108702154it can be tracked by vr headsets
>>108702154>>108702170It’s called a mouse, we solved that problem 45 years ago. Just get a gaming mouse if you want faster click and better performance.
>>108692919plus the slave labor
>>108692521>Chinese knock-offs are actually far higher quality than Sony or Microsoft official controllersNobody is buying your obviously wrong propaganda. I'd rather buy a dualsense for 80 dollars than 5 chinkshit controllers for 20 dollars hoping I'll get one that's not fucking dogshit. I also don't need to worry about my controller pretending to be a keyboard when it detects that I'm not near the computer.
>>108691887https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/ps5>PS5 controller: $85+NO RAM, NO SSD, MAKE IT SENSE!https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/nintendo-switch-2-pro-controller-123674/>Switch 2 Pro Controller: $90https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/nintendo-switch-2-joy-con-2-l-r-123677-3/>JoyCon 2's $99NO SSD, NO RAM, MAKE IT SENSE>2nd Valve controller price leak, $99 without the same mass producing insanity that Sony or Nintendo have, while producing a more advanced controllerMAKE IT SENSE
>>108702649and also very likely some cost offloading from machine and framewithout the memory crisis it could have been even less
>>108691887valvcucks will simp for valve even though it's a disgusting rentseeking company that does nothing while it takes 30% and it will ban any game that wants to price lower on some other store or through direct sales.
>>108702318all electronics are courtesy of slave labourcobalt mines run on little black child slaves
>>108702703valve hasnt been rent seeking with their hardware (so far)
>>108702703>it's a disgusting rentseeking company that does nothing while it takes 30%https://youtu.be/stxVBJem3Rs?t=1640
>>108691910I got the Apex 4 for like $40 bucks. I'm going to use this thing for at least 9 more years kek
>>108702649It’s not an “advanced” controller, there is nothing special about Proprietary software controlling it. There is no reason for extra buttons below the user hands. There is touchpad is a worthless feature that games don’t offer, you better off using a gaming mouse.Stop your propaganda.
>>108691887>>0MB of RAM>>0MB of SSDwhere do you think the firmware lives, in the ether?
>>108703380>you better off using a gaming mouseHow is that relevant when talking about A CONTROLLER, fucking retard.
>>108696889>PCB issues
>>108702649>>108703083Those controllers don't require Steam running to work (Android, iOS, etc). You literally have software DRM for a gamepad LMAO.
>>108703424The gaming mouse that Valve cult members don’t want you to know. Can do everything the Steam Controller can do, same price.
Looks great honestlyI love the magnetic charger
>>108703424>How is that relevant when talking about A CONTROLLERContrarian retards that got ran off by /v/ jannies need to keep making up reasons as for why the Steam Controller is DOA because hating Valve is the contrarian thing to do. If you think these retards bringing up mice is pathetic, you should've seen the threads on /v/.
>>108691887It's called pricing according to the customer's willingness to pay.This thing will sell out even at $129.
>>108704231A gaming mouse is more important and doesn’t require 3rd party software. Shame Valve instead of being their lap dog.
>>108704257Anon, you know damn well that bringing up a mouse when talking about controllers is pointless and you're only making yourself look like a retard.Mouses are to be paired with keyboards. Controllers are to be used instead of M+KB. You're not showing anything anyone here but picrel.
>>108691910> the difference a console one and a chinese knockoff is like 50 bucks in price and exactly the same quality.definetly not true, but the extra quality of a expensive one might still not be worth the jump in price thats something that COULD be true
>>108703453dual shocks from that era also required shenanigans the steam controller was just too novel at the time to warrant compatibility firmware for generic controller profiles, there wasnt a reason to use it for anything other than the steamlink (and upcoming steam machine, that flopped HARD)
>>108704384>that era also required shenanigansthe image was about the NEW Steam controllerhttps://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1sx9tt0/gamers_nexus_valve_steam_controller_review/
>>108704297Gamer Nexus says you can’t control the Steam Controller on the login page or (any operating system) installer. A Chinese mouse can do something that Valve can’t is a sad state of affairs.
i'm a latencyfag and hate bluetooth so i'm getting it. battery life seems really good too and i like the repairability aspect. not sure what people are having a problem with really
>>108704415Anon, just stop posting. Please.
>>108704409>can't be a kbm AND a basic controller at the same time because xinput and dinput are garbagelmao
Wish it had two gyros but will make do with the trackpads and extra back buttons. Going to get one day one if possible. I really like making configs so this is hard to beat in terms of options you have with Steam Input. Too confusing for most people though so this will probably just do so-so in sales. I understand why they did not add more shit because they wanted to keep it similar to the Steam Deck. I have a GC Ultimate controller coming so I will have something with two gyros. My only other issue is figuring out a good counter-strafing solution on a controller. Using the stick is slower than two buttons. Its similar to "leverless" sticks and fighting games.
>>108704415https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/controllers-gamepads/valve-steam-controller-developer-interview
>>108697152>run like shit>a controller>because>of no RAM>in a controllerI know /g/entoomen are retarded by nature, but Jesus Christ.
>>108702264Buddy if you don't want to use it you don't have to. But you don't have to be a fag about it.>Posted using my logitech shitter mouse
>>108699682>A dogshit Switch controller is fucking $90wait do nin-toddlers really pay that much?
>>108704801the controller's controller can't function without RAM. you are both retarded, just for different reasons
>>108704409yikes, thats bad
>>108692473>40 minutes when a year old as wellIf you play 12 hours a day maybe.
>>108703120>I'm going to use this thing for at least 9 more years kekNot if the Apex 6 comes out with far better features.
>>108705284It's a controller. Apart from back buttons and a screen, it's the same design as the one we got in the PSOne more than 25 years ago. I'm pretty sure most of it will remain the same for the next 10 years, but sure, perhaps some killer feature will get invented that will render mine unattractive, but that's just wishful thinking right now.
>>108697559That looks great, but it seems it doesn't have gyro, is there an xbox controller with gyro?It's not a hard requirement, but if I was gonna splurge I'd like to get all features, even the niche good ones
>>108691910Chinese knock-offs are dogshit. I have a SF 25-30th's (forgetting) 8bitdo Genesis 6-button and that shit doesn't fucking work on PC (bindings are wrong) and the membrane for it breaks easily.You get what you pay for applies. And the Deck's controller layout is solid.
>>108691912Probably as a collector's item or spare parts for the crazies that fell in love with it and broke their bumper/R, L1's.Otherwise, no not really. There's a reason Valve fireselled their remaining stock before the Deck launched. Nobody really bought those because the concept of huge trackpads (over the Decks smaller ones) just didn't work for controller games.The smaller trackpads work better because you're able to put mini menus or mouse-controls on them while using ABXY/regular controller for stuff that wants it (generally console ports).
>>108704879>controller can't function without RAMAnon, all controllers don't need RAM.The Decks controller layout is literally through Steam, which is part of the reason it's requiring Steam. Anything you "flash" to it is just Valve's controller bindings being sent to your PC to interpret the bluetooth/responses.
>>108705464confidently wrong
>>108704831If you people claim outrageous features then don’t get angry when YouTubers prove you wrong. Steam Deck is not an alternative to Mouse and Keyboard, it’s a shit controller that was build to profit the Valve fanbase.
>>108691910So much for chinese knockoffs. I bought many of them and they're all shit, every single one I had had issues. So between the hassle of buying 2-3 chinktrash controllers that don't work and a single controller that costs as much but WORKS the choice is obvious too bad the steam controller will be out of stock within half an hour
>>108697152how much ram do you think a controller needs? /g/tards once again proving their intelligence
The world's first controller for Linux.>The Steam Controller is designed for devices that use Steam. It works with Windows and with Macs, but Steam has to be running. Otherwise, it's seen as a hybrid mouse/keyboard input device. (Even on a PlayStation, it's seen as a mouse. >The exception is Linux, where Valve has a driver in the kernel with gamepad functionality).Linux is a first-class citizen, Windows is a second-class citizen. You love to see it.
>>108705651You could just build one, Steam Controller is Chinese build. There will be no difference.
>>108705675>8BitDo developers never heard such BS claimWhat’s next? First game controller to remote a submarine?
>>108705705When 8BitDo releases a model with trackpads then I'll consider it for my couchmouse. If 8BitDo releases a model with trackpads AND undercuts Valve's pricing then I'll actively shill for it. But until then...
>>108705675>The world's first controller for Linux.Lol no, valvecucks are 5 years late here as well.
>>108705705>>108705730the valve driver comes in the kernel itself because valve effectively owns arch.
>>108705816Still 5 years too late https://github.com/medusalix/xone
>>108700804Makes playing Civ 5 on my deck easy, and it's nice for when I need to go into desktop mode
You don't need more.
>>108705881I actually still have that, has a few nice features other controllers don't. There's a dedicated toggle button to swap dpad and left analog inputs, and a switch on the back to change it from XInput to DirectInput
>>108705730>valvecucksholy virgin
>>108705914no need to sign your posts on 4chan, tourist
>>108693861>>108698700God closes his gates to you.
>>108691887IDK why this is causing so much ass pain. You're paying a premium for the touchpads, that's all. Don't need touchpads? Get a 3rd party controller. Do need touchpads? $100 isn't that bad, at least it's not Elite/Edge-tier bullshit without TMR.
>>108697492lmao i cringed pretty hard at this.
>>108700989You should update the firmware.
>>108705581I don't have a 'eck. I use mouse and keyboard and sometimes an xbox 360 controller. I just think you're bein a fag
Valvedrones will buy anything with 'Steam' in the name.
>>108691887that piece of shit looks worse than the Xbox duke controller.
>>108705919virgin mad
>>108705730>for linux>still can't get haptic feedback to work on certain games without patching or using snowflake proton forkshttps://github.com/valvesoftware/proton/issues/5900
>>108707440>All features require the DualSense to be plugged through USB before starting the game and Steam Input to be disabled for Playstation controllers (or simply Steam Input being disabled for the specific game). I have not found hid-playstation to cause any issue>protonmaybe Valve should stop being so fucking shit with software?
>>108708387These features won't work any better if you disable steam input or play these games outside steam though.These are plug and play on Windows, btw
>>108708402Did you even look at your own source before posting, dumb Valvefaggot?>However, the games' implementation rely on low-level APIs that may not be implemented in Wine or details that may be different on a typical Linux environment.>Adaptive triggers work through custom HID reports, so this will work out of the box as long as Steam Input is disabled.Truly I don't think there's anything that ruined gaming more than /v/ and /pcmr/ faggotry
>>108708427Cry abt it
>>108708427Until you can make these features work without random patches outside of steam you can talk a lot of shit and it will mean basically nothing. These games already disable steam input on input methods they have support for. The native controller support by Sony means jack and fucking shit if their games or practically any games that support their gimmicks can barely be played on linux without Valve directly putting money and resources on it. I don't know why you're getting uppity about this shit.
>>108691912They're going for more than you'd expect on ebay. More than the original retail price.
>>108705881I had one last me 25y
>>108692521I bought a Pro 3, and it's kinda cool; would definitely use it a lot more if not for all the clacking and creaking with the ABXY buttons. Because no, really, they are so fucking loud it's distracting. I was replaying Dark Souls 2 with it and I'd never noticed til then how much menuing you do in the game, because of the CLACKACLACKACLACKACLACK as you swap armour/rings or go about un- and re-equipping all your gear because of the corrosive pools and urns, etc. Apparently you can swap the rattly magnetic buttons for the normal plastic ones used in the Pro 2- as well as the 2's rubber membranes, which allow for a ~30% lower g/cm^2 actuation force (can definitely see the benefit, the stock membranes of the Pro 3 feel much more resistant vs. my Switch Pro Controller such that my thumb gets more tired more quickly with the former) however some of the replacement parts are exclusive to the 8bitdo official shop and they won't ship to Australia for some baffling reason.
