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It's so fucking over for used server hard drives Is this really NEVER going to let up?
>>108695780I have some notes about the Asus AP201 recommended in the OP. It is perfectly fine for air cooling but if you would buy it for an AIO setup especially since it advertises it can fit a 360 AIO, don't.With the AIO you will be continuously fighting for airflow and it will always be tending to negative pressure plus the heat from the GPU will choke the CPU cooling performance. It is a nightmare. Plase add "air cooling only" next to it.
I should have bought a gen 5 drive. I thought gen 4 speeds are okay...they are not when you have some serious shit to do. I mean it's okay, but shit this importing, expoting, transferring, encoding, all this production shit could be going literally double the speed
>>108695840>>108695847>>108695859You are currently degrading /pcbg/ quality and wasting your time posting in a spam thread that will be deleted. Please use the real thread below:>>108683982>>108683982>>108683982
>>108695864 go spam your own thread crybaby
>>108695847Something you actually experienced or did you see a review?
>>108695915Experienced. I had to replace the case with a full size one for more intakes. I still have the AP201 back in the garage if you want it. It is the mesh side panel version.
toasting in the real bread
>>108696103based
>>108695953Which case are you using now? I think the airflow issue is a tradeoff for all mATX cases.
Should I be concerned about using a 13y old Seasonic PSU for my HTPC?
Friendly reminder all of the "top players" in twitchy games are cheaters using aimbot software.
>>108695847Looking at the AP201 in Buildcores, it seems like the PSU will be pushing air into an exhaust config AIO as well. However, while this is a bit bad compared to other cases, everything you describe is just par for the course for these kinds of mini cases. If an AIO is used then the rear fan can be turned around to feed it. Regardless the GPU has to feed itself air, it is nothing new. Those weirdly placed holes on the bottom aren't actually just unmarked (asymmetrical?) fan mounts in Buildcores, is it?
>>108696365I mean I would be
>>108696379That's why you should play league or valorant, where cheating is basically non-existant
>>108696365As long as it has failsafes built in, don't worry about it. PSUs are designed to fail without taking the rest of the system with them. Anyway I doubt your HTPC is running a 5090 if it's just for watching movies and streaming video
>>108696318The airflow issue is due to the liquid cooler radiator fans pulling air out creating extra negative pressure and if you can't balance it with more and bigger fans then you will have trouble. The AP 201 specifically also had a weird air pocket as well and even I had the mesh sidepanel the GPU always blowed hot air outside then the negative case pressure sucked it in recirculating it. Switching to the full size case lowered temps by 20C just because it has uninterrupted airflow, no weird air pockets and no recirculation. I try not to be embarrassed about not knowing my own case, I know it was a chink knockoff of Fractal cases because I was looking at those at the time. I know it is not Corsair or Lian Li. Not an aquarium, just a generic standard full size case with 3x140 front intakes, 1x140 rear exhaust and it fits the 360 AIO on top. Let's just say if you look at a Fractal North you will see something very close.
>>108696386Yeah, that was what I was thinking but don.t expect much in terms of airflow. The PSU gets air and that is it. It even blocks a place for a front intake that would solve a lot of its issues.
My DDR4 RAM is dyingI have two options>Just get a new pair for inflated prices and upgrade then whole rig 2+ years later in hopes prices for all parts will be more normal by then>Upgrade partially now to DDR5 with a new Mobo and CPU with GPU and PSU and a new case in 2+ yearsWhich do you think is the play here
>>108696405topkek
>>108696412It's an old 7700k without any overclock a 1030GT just so I can get 4k@60hz from HDMI and 4 HDDs
Two options1: Quit using this spam thread and go to the real one: >>1086839822. Suffer the consequencesYour choice
>>108696462Likely the former
>>108696365Of course the warranty is only 12 years for a reason
>>108696503Never buying G.skill againThe pair I bought and the RMA one both died in the same span of time, which was around 20 monthsKingston it is then
>>108696462What processor do you have now?
>>1086965585700X and using a 3060 Ti
>>108696502If the consequences are that your thread dies, I'm all for it.
>>108696569See if you can find ddr4 cheap on facebook.If you're willing to fuck around with chink adapters and the consequences of that you can probably find something for nearly free.And then after new sockets migrate to that once things have settled, that's what I would do if I were in the scenario.
>>108696537Kek my cheap ass siliconpower ones are still sticking after 2 years
>~20 posts were just deleted in the last thread
>>108696502you're autistic and retarded
>>108696537Ripjaws? My kit from 2022 had a stick fail after two years. Then the RMA'd kit did the same.
>>108696666Yeah Ripjawsat least the RMA'd kit came with RGB since they were out of normal onesSeems weird to me since my very first build that I did in 2016 and used for 6 years before upgrading had zero issues whatsoever
>>108696379weird cope, but ok.
do miniITX motherboards have audio interfaces/jacks? i'm considering buying speakers for my current ATX build which does include audio jacks, but not sure whether i should get USB instead (Edifier M60) for when i upgrade to a miniITX build
>>108697295You could probably find this information on mobo spec sheets on their websites.
>>108696666what motherboard, satan?
>pc randomly turning off then restartinguuuuuuuuhhhh, should i be concerned?This has happened twice this week, when playing metro exodusI did had power outage here months ago when I had my pc on, do you think this may have fucked the psu?Crimson Desert is a more demanding game and I didn't have any problem so I'm not sure if it's really psu related, my gpu is undervalued a bit too to notGuess I could try limiting my fps in Metro, currently it's at 144fps since I have vsync on in nvidia control panelBut weird
>>108697395Asrock... B550 Steel Legend. I've also had bad luck with my 5900Xs on it.
>>108697408I'd zero out the undervolt first just to make sure.
>>108697408>my gpu is undervalued (sic)Well the next step is to try playing metro with stock settings
>>108697451>>108697459Back when Crimson Desert launched, I had an undervolt that was unstable and caused game crash, tweaked it and it's been fine ever sinceWhat's scares me is my pc is shutting down by itself, then turn back on as if nothing happened, the game doesn't lag or anything right beforeI'll try removing the undervolt to be sure first.Decided to look at some psus, are these good? I have the money so I don't want to cheap it out, current psu is a 600W be quiet non modular one (more than enough for a 5700x3d, rtx 4070, 32gb ram)Also sorry for the autocorrect errors I'm phone posting right nowNow that I'm thinking about it, it has happened to me few weeks ago when I was rendering a video with Davinci Resolve if that can be of help (a 1080p 30fps ~1h video)
>>108697408>>108697539seems excessive. pretty sure my system draws more power and I don't need that large of a PSU. unless you're planning on upgrading the GPU within the next 1-2 generations to something higher than the 200W TDP.I just power limit my GPU to 150W in the Novidio app. it sounds like you just have unstable overclocks. did you tweak the CPU/RAM too, or just the GPU?
>>108697539>What's scares me is my pc is shutting down by itself, then turn back on as if nothing happenedI mean that does sound like it would most likely be a psu thing. Undervolt would almost always just be a blackscreen and game crash before it recovers without a restartMaybe check event viewer.Definitely power supplies there, 1000w is overkill but fuck it, go for it.
>>108697539ryzens do this for multiple reasons (IF, IMC, PBO) but start with removing the undervolt, yeah. test with ycruncher and testmem5 1usmus config. like 12 hours minumum for each.
>>108696462Is it really dying that badly? Can you extend its life by reducing the clock or widening the timings?
>>108697435Ram doesn't die that often. It's probably your murderboard that's killing the ram over time
>>108698296Depending on the game it can crash once or twice a day with DOCP onNever crashed while PC was idle without anything openWhen off it crashed after like a week
does anyone actually build pc's these days? I guess it's more like shopping for rgb lights.>ASUS ROG Strix Z270G Gaming mATX>Intel i7-7700K @ 4.95GHz (Coffee Mod to i9-9900K pending)>64GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 (4x16GB)>2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition in SLI(per-node)>EVGA Pro SLI HB Bridge 0-Slot Spacing>Samsung 980 1TB NVMe>Corsair RM850e 850W>Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 + LGA 115x Kit>ASUS Prime AP201 White Mesh>Mellanox ConnectX-3 VPI MCX354A-FCBT via ADT-Link M.2 adapter>Alienware AW3425DWM 34” 3440x1440 180Hz3 identical nodes planned6x GTX 1080 Ti total / 66GB VRAM192GB DDR4 across cluster~68 TFLOPS FP32 aggregateFDR InfiniBand full mesh via QSFP+ DAC9x ConnectX-3 cardsI have everything for the second two nodes except for the ram and the rom because I’m broke but at least the first computer is done. I’ll connect the three with the data center cards to run renders and churn data or whatever.
>>108698431
Is there a known fix for the green screening from amd gpus? Mine started doing it randomly a couple weeks ago. Everything's connected securely so I'm guessing it's a driver problem.
For one. I hate these two retards that keep making multiple threads and splitting posts.Secondly:This doesn't seem safe. It's on the edge of the fan and hardly touching anything.I think I'm going to have to use the mother standoff GPU bracket.Is this how GPU anti sag things usually are?
>>108698633I wouldn't put my kick-stand over the fan like that.
>>108698642There's no other spot. Because if I line it up slightly further right on the spot between fans it's going to slide down the ramp that's in the case for air flow.
>>108698652That ramp is still flat at the top. There's enough space for the stand to sit exactly clear of the fan. The worst that could happen then is it might fall out when you move the entire case. The worst that can happen with your current setup is it slipping over time due to vibrations and the fan eating an aluminum hotdog.
what 9070xt should i get?
What's the difference between "Core" temp and "CCD1" temp for your CPU?Also, is it bad if my CPU temp is always fluctuating up and down by about 10C while web browsing? A 9850X3D is supposed to be able to sit at 90C for its entire life of usable, but I can't image constant fluctuating temps is good for it.
Is using 4k with a 4070super retarded? Im on a 1080p monitor now and want to upgrade. But I tried my brother's 1440p screen and it really isn't that much better than my shitty 1080p one, so I wanna go for 4k.Even dlss at ultra performance should look better than 1440p quality right? What about actual performance and vram limits?
>>108699056works fine for me. >>108697683but if you're buying a new GPU you should get a 4/5090, 5070ti or 9070xt for 4k.
>>108699076get a blackwell 6000 instead.
>>108698799the hottest temp is the hotspot. the other is the average. the temp swings are normal thats how cpus boost.
>>108698592update windows to 26200.8313
>>108695780any recs on a ultrawide high refresh monitor that also has the latest fancy technology? mini led? and HDR?IDK i'm not monitor-informed.
>>108699211Monitors are all bad. Pick a resolution and a refresh rate and buy the cheapest ips monitor
>>108698431Can that motherboard even handle 250W of power that the 9900k needs? You might have to lock tdp to 150W and love with 4.3ghz clocks to not melt your Mobo vrms
>>108699211all monitors are compromises.decide what resolution you want, then decide the rest based on refresh rate, size, budget.if you don't mind replacing it in 5 years or less and having good picture quality for 3 months after purchase, go OLED, otherwise go IPS.
>>108699120Good to know, thank you.Appreciate the heads up.
>>108699320>if you don't mind replacing it in 5 years or less and having good picture quality for 3 months after purchase, go OLED, otherwise go IPS.Is this you trying to say OLEDs go bad after three months or IPS goes bad after three months?
>>108699354OLED starts deteriorating the moment you turn it on. within 3 months there will be noticeable burn-in and decay.
>>108699362Not sure what crack you're smoking, this guy did a test where he used an OLED in the worst possible way and it's lasted 2 years with minimal burn in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15aIdl-HKWc>y- youtuber!!! doesn't count!!! only my say so counts!!Okay.
>>108699367>post a video where he documents noticeable burn-in to disprove OLED burn-in
>>108699375Yeah but I said minimal* burn in!*I get to define minimal ;)
>>108695847>>108696386>>108696413The trick is to not care that ur temps are high. You can fit 3 fans under the gpu as intake and I did have that but founds temperature difference negligible, but I don’t pay THAT much attention to it either. My fans are on a super gentle curve aswell
>>108699375>i'm retarded and can't read so you're WRONG!!!!The internet really did develop the worst kind of people.You clearly didn't even watched the video. Not only did he do next to no OLED care features. Even while doing that there is only minimal burn in using the monitor in the worst possible way to cause burn in.
>>108699390
>>108699390Minimal as in you can only even see it under certain conditions and would never be able to see it in normal use. I know pretending to be retarded is the best you can do, but come on.
>>108699392ok bro. I'm not trying to spend $2000 on a monitor that has noticeable rapid decay and constantly interrupts my computer usage with windows xp update tier pop-ups.
>>1086994001. Being retarded doesn't mean you win.2. Stop being so low function you struggle to use a shift key.3. You can get a very good OLED for as little as $400. Stop being brown and poor.4. Refusing to admit you're wrong doesn't mean you aren't wrong. There is no "noticeable rapid decay".
>>108699412there is definitely noticeable rapid decay. place it next to a brand new OLED and you'll see.
>>108699417Repeating the same wrong thing doesn't mean you aren't wrong.
>>108695780Why is the 9070 xt a 4k card?
>>108699397See, this was the purpose of the jab about getting to define minimal. (You) can't notice more likely you pretend you don't but that's asside the point.
>>108699478because it's strong enough to play games in 4k with high resolution textures?
>>108699478I mean you can go way lower than a 9070xt and still have a good time with dlss or fsr4
>>108699478Because you can theoretically set it to the most performant setting of FSR and get enough frames, FSR3 fallback is also an option. Games are also starting to not have usable Pathtracing or even non-badly-implemented Raytracing options on AMD so you can turn those off and get more frames.4K is actually quite easy just lower your graphics settings and it just werks.
>>108699391fellow orange enthusiast I seenice build
>>108699481>i have super vison and can see even one pixel that 12% discolored!!! Money on you having 10/20 vison at best.You do realize that there's objective burn in tests you can do for OLEDs to see exactly how much burn in there is, right?
>>108699523>uhmmm ackshuallybro stop.
>>108699536The pure irony is laughable. Because "uhmmm ackshually" is literally what you're doing.Also, retard, you do realize that ALL lights burn out eventually, right?
>>108698337DDR4 ripjaws does have a high failure rate though, if you go by all the plebbit threads complaining about having to do multiple RMAs on it.
>>108699543>I'm going to skip the part where I sum up your folly.Struggle as you must, I have already wonned.
>>108699563>i- i win!!!Whatever you need to tell yourself to cope.You also didn't sum up anything, you just repeated the same wrong thing you said the first time.
>>108699543my TN panel that I've had for over a decade which has been retired to second monitor still has just as good picture quality as the day I bought it.OLED could never.
>>108699576r u german by chance?
>>108699576Well?
>>108697683>>108697765CPU/RAm are un tweaked, all default settings on themYeah 1000W might be overkill but I'll upgrade my gpu in the next years and switch to AM5 too>>108698183I'll look that if I have the time to run it
Is a DDR4 based AI workstation worth building? I have 64GB (2x32GB) of DDR4 3200 that I could use but I can wait 6 months before building a DDR5 system. Selling the DDR4 now would yield a 400% return on the purchase price.
Despite the RAM/Storage issues going on I'm still seeing YouTubers build stupid shit like "My all SSD 200gb Plex server"
>>108700098That's just LTT
>>108700032sure, unless you have an 8 channel threadripper you don't want to use cpu layers anyway. the only meaningful question for local ai is if you go unified memory or gpu, maybe multi gpu though that's a bit niche with consumer stuff.
>>108700592Nah, plenty of smaller guys and rando YouTubers are doing it too
>>108697683If your target res is above 1080p u won't need anything more than a 7600x or a 9600xBuy a 5070 ti instead
https://videocardz.com/newz/fake-rtx-4090-uses-shaved-gddr6x-memory-and-laser-engraved-gpu-best-one-so-farBABE WAKE UP, NEW AMAZON SCAM JUST DROPPED
>>108699391>58ºcAnd here I am worried cause my cheap ass 7600x runs at 35ºc instead of 30ºc when I soften the fan curve for silence.
>>108699592>my monitor is special and defies the laws of reality and physicsHonest question, do you think light bulbs are magic?
>>108695780What is a good case for this build? Ideally want good airflow and plenty of USB ports in the front. My last case was a Zalman Z11. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vBznsp
>>108701831>2700 first world dollars>not even getting a 9850X3D>not even getting an RTX cardThings must be rough over there.
>>108701883I actually panic-bought the processor, RAM, SSD and 9070XT a while ago when RAM prices first shot up, so I'm stuck with them. But they were still a lot cheaper then, at least.
>>108701905Okinos has top tier budget cases.Lian Li also has some really solid cheap options. Just pick one you like.Your motherboard does have USB-C ports, so look for a case with that, if you care about it.
>>108699543>Also, retard, you do realize that ALL lights burn out eventually, right?I've had this IPS for 12 years by this point and it's never changed.
>>108701938See >>108701811
>>108699271if they melt, they melt
>>108699478It's not
Intel wonnered
