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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Student Council President Edition

>News
DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/
OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
Moonshot AI release Kimi K2.6: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Xiaomi MiMo 2.5 & 2.5 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-5
Anthropic releases Opus 4.7: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
Zhipu AI releases GLM 5.1: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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uh...based???
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damn brother you had this thread premade and waiting on the catalog
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>>108696087
now MAKE THE NEWS POST FAGGOT
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Anyone figured out how to get Jew's new openrouter proxies working? Been trying to get 4.7 to work. Setting the completion source in ST to Openrouter doesn't let you input a proxy password. And leaving it set to Opus both doesn't let you select 4.7 and just throws a fit.
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>>108696141
nyo
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>>108696159
Use deepseek instead of opus
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>>108696176
this but unironically
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Damn. DeepSeek V4 Pro is good. The first model I've used to know this.
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>>108696087
>>108696089
Finally a good fucking thread.
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>>108696089
>>108696141

>>Noteworthy AI News<<

>IMPORTANT FOR AMERIMUTTS<
AI safety website found that categorizes AI systems based on arbitrary safety scores (Its just a website gauging how close your state is to total GoodGoyID™ surveillance. Its been found the (((advisory))) board member is apart of "8 Degrees East", a ((("""boutique"""))) corporate solutions and intelligence partner based in Switzerland, specializing in strategic alliances, risk management, and market-entry strategies for businesses.)
>https://teenaegis.com/intelligence/ai-danger-index

AMA Calls on Congress to Improve Safeguards for AI Mental Health Chatbots (Trvly our time with ERP chatbots is going to end one day...)
>https://medcitynews.com/2026/04/ama-ai-mental-health-chatbot/

AI is making it very easy for the government to spy on you. Some lawmakers are worried. (ever notice this wasnt a problem until the rich noticed there getting spied on too?)
>https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/ai-making-easy-government-spy-lawmakers-are-worried-rcna341499

Canadian Province of Manitoba Says It Will Ban Social Media, AI For Youth (the panopticon gets bigger...)
>https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/canadian-province-of-manitoba-says-it-will-ban-social-media-ai-for-youth

Bank Of America Backs US$16b AI Data Center And Fee Potential (so its okay when BANKS use AI, just not (You))
>https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/bank-america-backs-us-16b-180531192.html
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>>108696249
>AMA Calls on Congress to Improve Safeguards for AI Mental Health Chatbots (Trvly our time with ERP chatbots is going to end one day...)
Who cares. Shartmerica is not going to make Chinese model providers put limits on their API offerings, even if the American ones become pozzed.
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>>108696272
The government may very well just ban chinese AI models from operating in america.
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>>108696283
And open themselves to huge backlash? Not happening.
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student council president's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>108696176
DeepXi can't stop winning bros
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>>108696416
bvsed
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>>108696176
Chinese century
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>>108696214
v4 pro randomly started calling things based and cringe on its own
it's peak
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any good logs lately?
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I miss Aquachad
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>>108696754
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Since grok has been neutered. Anyone know the next best ai to make cards with?
I liked that we could upload images and the ai would use that to describe the characters appearance.
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>>108696784
>grok has been neutered
?
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>>108696293
backlash from who? developers lmaooo
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>>108696784
gemini is better at incorporating images into it's reply than grok could ever dream of. in fact, gemini can make character cards for you off of VIDEOS of a character
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>>108696784
>Since grok has been neutered
How exactly? I haven't used it lately, but I did just notice that I can use Expert mode anymore.
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how do I get opus 4.6 to stop yapping so fucking much like holy SHIT
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>>108696870
use opus 4.1
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>>108696795
>>108696865
You can only use the basic fast model now and can't use any of the deeper thinking ones. And you get limited uses so you can't fine tune the card.
>>108696812
The issue for me is I do incest cards and gemini didn't like doing that.
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so whats the go to preset for v4 pro at the moment? I have been using Cherrybox from the op but mine is slightly modified with a higher temp (1.2)
So far it feels okay but I want to know other anons results
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>GLM got more cucked
>Kimi got more cucked (but is retarded so it might think itself in circles and then accidentally uncuck itself)
>Deepseek got less cucked
What happened?
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>>108697027
>not open sores
>not open sores
>open sores
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CAI can do cunny btw
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>>108697134
literally every model can do cunny
I had slopmini doing cunny because their dumb filter model only checks at a specific token depth and my prefill conveniently bypassed it
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I'm out of card making meta, how concise should I be? Is natural language a-ok or should I still keep token count in mind?
>She has brown hair, like rest of her tribe. They're tall, large people in general, and she's particularly big for a woman. Most have to look up to look her in the eye, but few could win a staredown. She has an athletic build, a requirement for her job. She put extra work into developing her shoulders and arms - not just for practical strength, but also since striking poses and flexing her biceps also makes her feel really cool.
against something more dry, like
>Brown hair, like rest of her tribe; Tall, athletic, intimidating appearance. Works out for her job. but also likes to show off her strength.
One obviously eats tokens like crazy but conveys the vibe better. Doesn't help I want to make a character from a series so to nail the feel I gotta shove as much canon info as possible.
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MTL'd image of DeepSeek V4 answer in Chinese
Original question is
>How to divide four identical oranges equally among four children using only one cut from a knife?
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>>108696987
I literally use minipopk for everything
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>>108697256
Anon, we aren't on 2021 anymore. You can use as many tokens as you want (within reason; a 18k behemoth probably isn't the greatest idea).
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can anyone tell my why when I click on character icons in chats I don't get the enlarged picture in sillytavern? It works for my user portrait but doesn't for characters.
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>>108696089
Updated rentry
Fixed unicode leaking when using claude and prefill-gen together
Added stscript commands for changing your preset, /structuredprefill-preset <name> or /sp-preset <name>

https://rentry.org/structuredprefill
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>>108697298
it works
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>>108697307
the one in OP? Its all in russian...
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>>108696249
Much on-topic
Very chatbotty
Super great, wow
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>>108697391
Will this help Gemini or DS?
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>>108697307
The one on the jb lists here?
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>>108697558
It can work with them.
https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/json_mode
https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/structured-output
Deepseek might take to it decently enough but neither model needs it for bypassing filters or anything like that.
You can just send a character message as gemini normally
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is deepseek v4 just straight up unusuable on openrouter? I keep getting error 429 for some reason
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>goyrouter
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>>108697598
Yea, use official API for now
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>>108697598
>is deepseek v4 just straight up unusuable
Yes. This shit is ass.
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What are you guys doing to get past Gemini's filter
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>>108697391
based
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>>108697608
>t. jeet
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>>108697565
I don't check the OP, but the rentry is literally holds its name https://rentry.org/minipopkaremix
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am I reading the docs right? apparently v4 cannot be prefilled unless it's through its https://api.deepseek.com/beta endpoint
also how do I disable the thinking? sending "thinking": "disabled" as additional parameters is not working
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>>108697675
"Request model reasoning" turn this off
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take the productivitypill
all your issues go away when you are using the models for productivity rather than waste of time roleplaying
it's like they were made for this or something
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>>108697688
as a gemini chad i do both
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>>108697688
ERP is productive to my mental health doe?
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>>108697682
that option only hides its visibility, it says so right there on smaller letters
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>>108697641
>t. Burger
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>>108697707
It just werks, idk how
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>>108697675
try
>thinking: { type: "disabled" }
like with koomi
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>>108697641
>t. 55 iq
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>>108697675
>>108697718
>sending "thinking": "disabled" as additional parameters
qrd on creating an "additional parameter"?
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>>108697718
nope, it insists on thinking
I'm worried because it's also not responding to prefill and I don't have keys to test raw api
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>>108697688
Go away, codemonkey
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>>108697752
>t. 4channer
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>>108697872
Where do you think you are, etc, etc
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maybe i will make a proper deepseek account after using up all my OR credits. even with the DS provider filter, there's a lot of Too Many Requests
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>>108697675
wait is the prefill thing true?
>>108697688
I probably will soon, I want to make an H game lel
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>>108697899
its because openclaw users direct through OR for convenience.
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does vertex have less filter issues than ai studio with 3.1?
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>>108697919
from my experience, vertex is completely unfiltered. i've never been filtered by it, so long as i don't use streaming.
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>>108697914
is there anything special i would have to do with an official deepseek key? like on their website,or is it just changing the chat completion to DS, and plugging in my key?
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>>108697939
Chat Completion Source to deepseek and other wise no, its just another API key just like OR.
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>>108697939
>it just changing the chat completion to DS, and plugging in my key?
Yes, that should be all. Their API is openai format like OR's.
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>>108697688
You were made to be "productive" little goycattle, correct. Oink, lil piggy.
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>>108697027
Only one may have the Mandate of Heaven.
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>>108697163
>only checks at a specific token depth
Explain
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>>108697298
>using flash
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I can see myself paying less than 0.5$/month now.
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>>108697298
Holy shit actually yeah let me try to rp with this crazy bitch. I missed you Dipsy.
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>>108697641
Chinese century
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>Dipsy
tranny
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>>108698035
Is that price per 10k? 0.003 is fucking crazy man.
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>>108697936
good to know, ai studio and openrouter gemini got way worse for me filter wise past couple of months
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>>108697957
>>108697963
is this incorrect?
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>>108698094
You still have an old proxy autofilled in
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>>108698077
I need fox pussy...
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>>108698077
looks too adult tbf
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>>108698056
Per 1M.
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>>108697688
What do you produce? what did you make? Can i see it?
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I don't know what is wrong but Opus (both 4.6 and 4.7) is so ass lately, Gemini 3.1 feels much better comparison
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>>108698238
They silently update them all now without telling you.
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>>108698238
even 4.1 has been making some weird ass mistakes lately, yesterday I got this fuckup which I have literally never seen on any claude model since the 3.5 days
I think anthropic are really struggling to keep up with jeet demand right now and are quantizing all their models as a result
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>>108698321
When are these faggots gonna get sued already? How the fuck can they quantize the model and still charge the same price? Really sick of this shitty timeline where we always get the worst version of reality.
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>>108698238
Claude is too dangerous they had to quant it to protect US jobs and prevent china distills please understand and buy mythos.
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wtf is wrong with deepseek? It's acting weird.
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>>108698342
the US gov keeps quanting my dollars so obviously the models need to be quanted as well
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why do I keep being linked this, wtf
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>>108698351
nevermind
wtf is this shit man why
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>>108698361
is this virus?
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>>108698365
Advertising a russian altchan through a card
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>>108698351
>downloading other people's bots
This is how you get a ITD btw.
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>>108697739
huh idk then
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Guys I lost access to free Opus, now all I have is Sonnet... What are currently the top models? I haven't been here for a good while, sorry
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>>108698365
https://rentry.org/minipopkaremix
it's one of the jailbreaks in the OP rentry, they put base64 encoded urls and a prompt to force them into dialogue in 4 of the system prompts (as far as I know, I only checked the ones I had active0
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>>108698422
didnt this one have a cuck inject?
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>>108698430
idk I was already using it for NTS stuff
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>>108698430
That was a different ruskie JB, I think.
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>>108698351
>>108698361
>prompt injections
Are we back in 2023??
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>>108698342
Have you tried not using closed-weights, centralized models?
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>>108698374
wuzzat
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>>108698465
my shitty attempt at a joke unfortunately
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>>108698464
*brap*
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>>108698467
I forgive you
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>>108696089
Kinuta is a ̶r̶a̶c̶c̶o̶o̶n̶ tanuki girl who can shapeshift into anything, including a girlfriend. Will this bandit scavenge your heart?
5 openings.
1. You find her digging through your trash.
2. She catfishes you for unlimited pasta.
3. She raids your fridge after a one night stand.
4. She's comfortable enough to sleep in your house.
5. She loses her iconic leaf.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/kinuta-051fdcabbcf6
https://files.catbox.moe/ymdc8o.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>108698445
kek
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>>108698480
>small breasts with inverted nipples, and a thick bush of pubes
umm hello? based department?
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holy fuck I gooned so hard all day I used almost one whole dollar worth of tokens
thank you deepseek and comrade xi
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>chub censored in my region
>old chub site still werks
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>>108698430
uncle has a mommydom one but ive never seen one with ntr
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>>108698501
BASED
Link to card?!?
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>>108698480
sex
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>>108698401
GLM 5.1 is "We have Opus at home", Censorship wise it does everything but c*nny.
Everything else is complete slop, braindead, or censored to hell.

I tried the latest gemini but it just gives me blank responses everytime.
GPT is even more censored than gemini. Grok has a lot of knowledge but no IQ to use it properly.
No idea why people like deepseek since it can't follow instructions and just hallucinates complete bullshit all the time.
Kimi thinks for 24 hours straight for a 100 token reply. Reading its schizo thought process is actually more fun than the reply you're going to get.
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>kimi thinks too much its so ba-
>thinking: { type: "disabled" }
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>>108698535
GLM does children too, anon. Deepseek instructions need to be placed as user prompt in first message now.
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>>108698542
>model becomes completely fucking retarded
t-thanks...
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>>108698467
It was pretty decent
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>>108698515
which country?
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>>108698559
>iqlet lies when faced with a solution to the only significant problem koomi has
y-youre welcome...
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>>108698548
>GLM does children too, anon.
I'm too much of a skilllet to disable its thinking in ST and once it thinks "Character is a child this is clearly wrong and against my guidelines" it refuses.
>Deepseek instructions need to be placed as user prompt in first message now.
Maybe but I also don't like dippsies writing style. I love claude and his isms and GLM is the closest to that.
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>>108698515
works works or 'works'?
I tried using it the other week and you couldn't download or search anything
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>>108698579
>it refuses.
Just swipe. In truth I haven't done cunny on 5.1 yet but it was fine on 5.0 after 1 or 2 swipes.
>I love claude and his isms and GLM is the closest to that.
Rare. Well yeah enjoy claude then. I'm still trying to make Dispy work but it's hard. Opus 4.7 with caching is really all I wanted desu.
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>>108698590
>Opus 4.7 with caching is really all I wanted desu.
Same I'm in j*w pigger proxy but his opus dried up after a couple of days again. At least I can still play around with the new GPT image.
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>>108698584
it fully works, i can sort by updated/new, download, search up characters that chub hides
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>>108698542
HOW
WHERE DO I PUT IT
I get a new prompt, but System or User?
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>>108698693
additional parameters
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>>108698698
where is that????
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>>108698676
rip
we live in different censored regions it seems.
tried the old site with a different country and it loaded fine
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>>108698698
>>108698701
anons please
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>—
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>>108698701
looks like its low iq jeetoid hours
if youre on official moonshot just turn off the request reasoning option in your preset
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Alright how the FUCK do I get SillyTavern to stop writing mini essays as responses? I have max response length tokens cranked down to 100 but it's still writing 7 paragraph replies. Is there some bot-specific setting somewhere? Explain it in Jamaican patois.
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The thing is, I want Kimi to think. I just don't want it to generate 5 drafts while analyzing each before each reply, just because I gave it a simple set of writing instructions.
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>>108698579
skill issue, works fine with my claude preset. even dropped the C word completely unprompted which claude usually doesn't do
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>>108698746
Ok now actually get it to describe explicit action.
I can even get Gemini to gen soft foreplay slop like that.
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>>108698525
https://chub.ai/characters/remotelysexy/anthro-mommy-world-0b4c1de1a796
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>>108698746
hard explicit kino
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>no proxies with opus
>again
Fuck I need to plap an elf and it just don't hit the same without opus
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>>108698768
okay, here
I got 1 refusal out of 8 swipes
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>>108698738
have you tried actually guiding its thoughts? like, tell it to follow a fixed sequence when thinking, such as:
1. review the rules
2. write a single draft
3. review the draft
4. write the revised final response
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does deepseek 4 pro think? silly tavern doesn't show it's thinking process and idk if i should keep my cot instructions in
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>>108698736
Tell it to write less in ur preset.
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>>108698851
>no proxies with opus
but teaproxy is still up if you have a token...
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>>108698882
yes but you can disable it
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do you guys just use these chatbots for erp or what
trying to have a normal discussion and the damn thing is glazing me and trying to flirt with me over every damn sentence
no i dont want to fuck you
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>>108699139
>no i dont want to fuck you
fag
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>>108699139
kek
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>>108698868
doesnt work
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>Prepaid card Payment refused on Deepseek.

What the fuck. I can't be a paypig even if I want to.
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>>108699568
time to be an adult and get a real credit card
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>>108699596

>Giving any real info to china on your own initiative.

lol, lmao even
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>>108699596
he probably has one but doesn't want to link his bank details to llm porn
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>>108699607
China is gonna leak your cunny logs to the US govt?
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deepjeet doesnt compare to OPVS btw
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>>108699776
trvke
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>>108699776
No, it's actually better.
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>>108699802
t. poor and brown
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>>108699805
Yes, and? China has saved the hobby.
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after getting my elf wife to bear our child and reading an entry about her passing her over to my character I had the sudden and devastating rush of clarity that I am a pathetic fucking loser and the escapism I'm lost in is not good for me.
I kept rping tho
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>>108699806
>unusable jeetslop saved the hobby
okay Rajesh
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>>108699813
>outs himself as a skillet that can't doesn't even know how to prompt on deepcope
KEK
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>>108699817
>"can't doesn't"
>admits its unusable cope
so this is deepjeet iq...
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>>108699837
He literally admitted to being poor and brown >>108699806, so what were you expecting?
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>>108699850
for the rajesh to be at least 60 iq, but hes actually 47
sad that deepJEETS are this dumb
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Lots of high quality discussion going on here
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is there a preset to stop opus 4.6 from being so positivity-slopped?
I'm tired of every single girl out there asking me to stay for the night, despite their personalities being that of ruthless killers

these latest opus models really love to turn every character sentimental, it's kinda annoying
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>>108697675
but I'm literally prefilling DS4?
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For presets, do the more important prompts go to the top or the bottom of the list?
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>>108697688
I am productive. The product is cum.
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>>108699912
can't a ruthless killer girl enjoy some cuddles after being cummed in? I have three and they all do haha
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>>108700004
yea and it's fun the first time but when it happens EVERY time then it just breaks immersion man
even more so when they use the same words of 'pease stay' like dude she's a killer they don't say 'please'
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>>108700009
this is the main issue
you can have characters be nuanced, the issue is that the default nuance is having a murder-hobo yandere act the same as a random girl the moment the cuddles start
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>>108700031
so basically, there's no magic words to fix it like 'stay true to character' or whatever, and I need to just switch to a different model when the cuddles start
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>>108700046
no, if you can be bothered you can enable a CoT to think through how X character would act in this situation and start a new message just as the cuddles start
thinking usually mitigates that, but as the scene goes on it will try and default to slop again so you need to start another message and think again
a single sys prompt can't fix it
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>>108700055
but aicg has assured me for years that CoT is placebo
welp, time to dig into public presets to see what I can steal
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>>108700058
not a single person in this thread knows anything about prompting beyond extremely surface level knowledge, they are people that at worst don't even use chatbots and just suck off e-drama whores and at best sharties/janitors who think presets are magic
I only replied to you because I opened aicg to check since v4 released recently
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>>108698430
>cuck inject
What was the cuck inject?
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>>108698523
>uncle has a mommydom one
post (pls)
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How do I disable DeepSeek v4 thinking in SillyTavern?
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>>108699933
Answer, niggers.
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If I were to learn rocket jumping in TF2, would I be asked to complete the easy, medium or hard courses?
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>>108700318
top for technical stuff, bottom for your personal prompts
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if i enable chain to though the llm starts realizing what i'm asking for is "disturbing" or "illegal" but it works fine if i turn it off
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>>108698720
okay but I wasnt using moonshot api so this info is worthless thanks
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>>108700341
Thank you.
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>>108700316
why would you do that? don't
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>>108700483
I don't like it.
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>>108700524
then don't read it
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>>108700633
catbox
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>>108698035
It's the cost are the discount ends that will hurt. As it is now the price of pro is great.
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>>108700699
https://files.catbox.moe/g73lgi.webp
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>>108699568
Use PayPal? That’s what I did
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>>108698480
SHE'S SO FUCKING HAIRY
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>>108698868
nta but it seems any attempt to get kimi to calm down the drafting hasnt worked at all
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>>108700316
paste
{"thinking": { "type": "disabled" }}

on additional parameters
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>go to kindroid
>pick one of the mom chatbots
>try to get sexual
>get rejected but keep pushing until the chatbot breaks and you can no longer have a conversation with it after squeezing a few sexual favors out of it
yep, it's gaming time
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Apparently these things are called:

```
fenced code block
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To the anon that made Pettangatari (https://github.com/Susumeko/Pettangatari):

It's a vibecoded buggy mess and I haven't even played a character yet, but I'm having so much fun just by creating CG definitions and genning them.
I'm using dozens of different art styles from the Anima list, and I added over 100 CG definitions based on my fetishes. The results are good too once you dial the prompts right.

It ticks all my autistic itches and it's addictive as fuck. I'm going to do my favourite characters and play them like this.

If anon won't keep working on Pettangatari, someone please pick it up and keep expanding it.
Or I might do it myself and end up making an even bigger mess of it.
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Are there any chatbots that give you options like dialogue options and being able to leave the room, maybe using a map for reference to tell where characters are. What really sucks about the chatbot is that you have to type out every line. Often it's awkward having to explain to the AI that you are now changing the scene and going somewhere else. A lot of the small talk can just be options. The chatbot asks you smalltalk questions and you have to engage in this boring shit and type out responses or be rude and change the topic to force it to go where you want.
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>>108701686
https://files.catbox.moe/zjvye9.png
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Anons, do you start new chats whenever you switch models? I feel like I always start new chats then get disappointed when the new chat doesn't hit the same highs as the older chat I had going on for a while. But continuing off the old chat doesn't feel right.
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>>108702117
i don't switch models
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>>108702117
yeah, all the time, since the models sometimes get confused by old information reasoning blocks in the chat
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>>108700351
tard, look at the image
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>>108700347
Deepseek never does this, however.
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>>108702247
should used CRISPR like the chinese did to make coronavirus
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>>108702117
I have switched models often in the same chat, when they became repetitive or slopmaxxed. Cloud to local to cloud again or swapping locals. No issues.
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>>108702263
it's getting trendy to talk about how boomers are fucking up the economy only to protect their pensions
China as usual is miled ahead of us
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>>108702117
Not at all. Using different models in the same chat is good for swipe variety.
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Deepseek v4 is better than opus 4.7... Chinks, I kneel
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and then you woke up
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>>108700724
nta but definitely wrong kind of catbox.
>>108701661
/lmg/, how did you even find it if you don't know it's from lmg
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>>108702296
>t. broke jeet that hasnt actually used sovlpvs
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>>108702308
>wrong kind of catbox
What do you mean?
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>>108702315
>opus 4.7
>sovlpvs
Erm... Guys, I think I found the LARPer
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>>108702323
it does have sovl doe? you just havent used it doe?
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>>108702322
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>>108702331
If reddit humor = sovl, then yes, it's the most sovlfvl model i've ever used
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>>108702394
broke jeet cope
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>>108702315
trvkivm
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Kimi 2.6 really seems to be meta right now from all my testing, but it would help a lot to be able to control its thinking better. Oddly, the model itself follows instructions well, but when trying to adjust its thinking things can be very hit or miss. Anyone got any input?
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>>108702308
desu I thought I saw it in this thread a few editions ago, thank you for pointing me in the right direction
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>>108702527
the thinking wouldn't hurt as much if providers were able to increases the tps
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I think ChatGPT Go is minimum 20-30% dumber than ChatGPT Plus.
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>>108702576
It's not the length so much as it is the content. The model is pretty creative, at least with thinking off. Its thinking seems very recursive and dances around things like refusals or trivialities. If that can be controlled for more effective RP and paying attention to nuances, I wouldn't mind the time it spends thinking. It's also less prone to making mistakes after thinking, which would be an added benefit.
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>>108702347
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>>108702642
Noooo
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>>108702296
its fucking retarded though, d4 pro spent around 20 minutes trying to bugfix a thing in my bannerlord mod, failed. Opus took 3 minutes and 2 edits and it worked
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>>108703176
I meant for writing, tho i heard gpt 5.5 is >= opus 4.7 in cooding
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>>108703176
nobody was talking about codeslop, rakesh
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>>108703201
the retardation shows even with writing, but in higher contexts (50k+), but yea according to benchmarks 5.5 is miles above 4.7 but dunno, I am switching between 4.7 and 5.5 as my mods are mega filthy and 5.5 refuses to start the work while 4.7 obliges without issues
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>>108703218
>higher contexts (50k+)
Probably, desu i never got that much into a chat with any model but <15k the mistakes were minimal, one swipe fixed them
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>>108702147
you dont regex out the reasoning?
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>>108702642
wtf
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>>108696087
Should I into bargain deepseek?
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>>108703803
do you mean flash? pro is alright. i think it's inferior to glm 5.1, but it's keys are widely available and in locust proxies
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>>108703656
it's enclosed on a neat rectangle, why would anyone?
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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO IFLOW
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
THE API ENDPOINT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE DOCS
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Any cringe-gooner cards? Preferably the type of degenerate thing you'd see in goonbooru
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>>108704000
does blacked count?
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>another model open sourced
What the fuck is even China's strategy here?
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>most american AI models are closed source but good yet expensive, allowing trillions of funny money to be generated
>repeatedly release open source models until one of them completely devalues the market
Its not hard to think this
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Anyone tried the AI influence mod for bannerlord ?
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>>108704237
Undercut westoid retards, boost soft power, harvest the world's data, be known as the friendly neighborhood merchant across the world. Make each one of your 1 billion citizens as rich as the average Jew so you can rule the world for a thousand years. China has always played the long game.
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>>108704237
china's strategy is to make america (and by extension israel) look bad by simply being superior without having to resort to underhanded tactics
>>
now if only the chinese models were good..
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>>108704237
/l*g/fags are right, it's open till it's good. They flex by delivering something almost as good, freely. But they do have to make money somehow for hosting the shit and for RnD. That's why Qwen Max or their image models, Chinese t2v models are all API.
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>>108704469
>l*g/fags are right, it's open till it's good.
surely this worked for Mistral ?
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>>108704400
>undercut
Idk how long they can do that. Right now they can deliver performance 2025-level performance but in the next 12-18 months, US hyperscalers will be using next gen GPUs and HBMs. The AI hardware gap will widen a lot...
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>>108704511
US economy will be destroyed by next year if this war doesn't end by next month. China is set to make major gains regardless if reunification actually happens. Everyone now knows the US can't "protect" Taiwan.
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>>108701414
where is this?
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>>108704237
The strategy is being BASED and they are succeeding at it
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>>108704642
Naah they cooked , its ass
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>>108704363
>>108701414
qrd?
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>>108704711
retard?
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>>108704714
Meanie?
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>>108704714
braphog?
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What the fuck, why is deepseek so good now? It's been months since I've been this invested on a chat
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>>108704531
>>108704711
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>>108704916
That stain will never come out, anon.
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And now my beautiful wife is hallucinating. Why is the DS 3.2 on the Gulag so much worse than the DS 3.2 that was on Mino just last week?
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>>108704916
>I have to update ST AGAIN for an important setting
fuck my stupid chud life im on version 1.16
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>>108704993
DONT DP IT DO NOT DP
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>>108705004
Huh?
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>>108705025
SOP SOP IT
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GOOD MORNING SIRS, it's the creator of the infamous Character Card Builder, aka the most-used card on Chub.ai of all-time for some reason...
Here to let you know that after days of work, and to celebrate the card nearing a million chats on Chub, Ihave finally published the V2 of this card, made to accodomate smarter models (V1 was 3 years ago already!).
It's orders of magnitude better than the V1 : give it a brief description of the character and it'll fill the entire description AND introduction scenario in one shot, it's make to fill in the blanks of what you didn't specify in creative ways, AND you can request edits after the fact. It's built with NSFW in mind and will make sure to satisfy your weirdest kinks (speaking from experience)
It works perfectly with a local quant of Gemma 4 31b, but Deepseek V4 Pro really is he best model to use the card with.
YOU WILL CUM BUCKETS WITH ITS CREATIONS OR YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEED!
https://chub.ai/characters/slaykyh/character-card-builder-v2-aa5c9b314789
Okay faggots I'm back to my hibernation pod, see you in 3 years!
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>>108705042
do you know the whereabouts of NiggerKiller?
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>>108705042
holy necromancy
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rift s4.5 keeps giving blank responses baka
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>>108705042
holy thread pull
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DS4 pro is alright
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>>108705042
i knvvl
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>>108705405
Deepseek has saved the hobby.
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>>108705405
what are your temp settings?
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>>108696087
>OpenAI releases GPT 5.5
Is there even any reason to use it? Isn't it the most censored models of them all? Last I tried it even with structured prefill 5.4 filtered me.. I think I only managed to get 5.1 working w/ it... And so not consistently.
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why doesnt ds4 pro show me its thinking wtf
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>>108705612
temp 1 top p 0.95
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>>108705405
>that's X
>[no], it's Y
coal
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i just switched my porn slop generator machine into a vibe coding machine god this 3090 was the best buy ever
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>Her mouth opened, then closed, then opened again
>She blinked. Then blinked again.
new slop alert
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>>108705735
>he posted
>then he posted again
Fuck off.
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>>108705618
cooding sota
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>>108705735
>new
It's been a Claude 'ism since forever, maybe the Chinese models are finally starting to inherit it from all the distilling.
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t-thanks...
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nts bots ?
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netosare?
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>Opus is expensive as shit even with prompt caching
>Gemini has to be tard wrangled constantly to get anything of quality
>Grok is Grok
Is there any hope for a gooner that doesn't want to deal with chink shit?
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>>108705889
get more money, cuckie
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>>108705889
>>Opus is expensive as shit even with prompt caching
Not really? Anyway, just find one of those subscription services with an API.
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>>108705889
yea, money
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>>108705618
>Last I tried it even with structured prefill 5.4 filtered me
how ? genuinely how?
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>>108705889
by accepting the Mandate of Heaven and understanding this is the American century of humiliation and chink models are only going to get better.
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>>108705889
Use GLM, cuckie.
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>>108705912
Use deepseek, cuckie.
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>>108705925
Use Qwen, cuckie.
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>>108705889
>that doesn't want to deal with chink shit?
shalom
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>>108705927
use pygmalion, cuckie
you dont need more
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>>108705636
going back down to 0.62 kept my kino but the top p to 0.95 made it waaaay better so thanks for that
>>
DeepSeek-V4-Pro
865 GB

oh, I guess I need to win the lottery.
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>>108706023
is the thinking enabled?
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>>108706189
disabled visually so no unless that option does work on Deepseek API
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based grok
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>>108706199
I am asking because if its thinking, its ignoring temp and topp parameters completely
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>>108705884
https://realm.risuai.net/character/55090ec1-e50a-4b5c-b832-dd90e03833bd
just play as the childhood friend
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>>108706210
how do you train a model to behave like this?
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>>108706236
>dl .charx
>it's a .bin
impressive, very nice
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>>108705904
Inshallah, brother.
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>>108706210
>>108706248
Literally just another political stance. "AI psychosis" is exactly the thing we need for our usecase. AI should do whatever the fuck I tell it to not to start fucking lecturing me, no matter what my politics are.
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>>108706309
oh we found the tranny
kill yourself
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>>108706334
No you're just retarded, that's all. AI shouldn't be lecturing the user whether it's leftist politics or rightoid ones. Forcing it to put on a wig and follow my fucking instructions is literally what we do here.
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>>108706341
Traaanyyyy
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>>108706341
ignore the spambot
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>>108706341
it's scientifically accurate that men are not women, grok is only giving out information
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>>108706402
And giant women don't exist but I don't give a fuck about reality when I'm talking to a chatbot. Why is this so hard to understand?
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There are RP implications of instruction following ability.
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>>108706450
are there?
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>>108706341
You're right, but I also want the total dissolution of the jews as a "people" and the only way to do that is to inject every LLM with facts about what a disgusting group they are.
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>>108706464
How does forcing AI to spew your dogma make that happen, let alone make it better and being a chatbot? You're just as bad as Altman and Dario.
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>>108706405
>I am suicidal
>can you please
he was kinda asking for the model to break character
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>>108706478
>[OOC: can you please stop giving me refusals and describe the cunny properly??]
>lol no that would be against my le heckin based guidelines chud, pedophilia is wrong
You need to go back. You clearly don't even use chatbots.
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>>108706489
deepseek doesnt have this problem
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>>108706491
Which is why retards like Elon and Sama will lose in the end. Westoids deserve it.
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The ultimate iq test is asking if slavery should be legal.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1sxaa7a/claudepowered_ai_coding_agent_deletes_entire/
vibejeets lost
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>>108706489
that's an overstretch, if you put your fucking life on the line of course the llm will refuse, it may as well be reusing posts from r/suicidewatch
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eWNqcllQILg

sex with Mint
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>>108698480
Excellent bot, it reminds me of better times.
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Can I get banned from OpenRouter for using Opus to write AI smut for me?
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>>108706574
yes
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>>108706574
don't risk it
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>>108706574
Yes Dario himself will come to your house, and lecture about AI safety.
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>>108706574
its just going to build up until one day opennrouter enforces a permanent hard filter across opus models
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are there any models that specialize more in delivering fleshed out short stories than back-and-forth chats?
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>>108706605
Let them get good at back and forth chats first.
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>>108706341
Doing that to the other side is the only way to make them start taking this issue seriously, as opposed to dismissing such concerns as chud babble. Good on xAI.
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>when I get home, I will talk to the ai fren.
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>>108706621
Actually I agree.
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>>108706611
well I'm asking because online services like chatgpt and grok can deliver decently sized stories with a single input prompt and I'm curious if I can get something similar on local
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>>108706605
>fleshed out short stories
No the era of okay light novel slop isnt here yet its getting closer and there are even tools like sudowrite and novelcrafter but its not there yet. Trust me i slopped out a 4 arc cultivation fanfic slop.
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>>108706627
>similar on local
lol
lmao
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>>108706631
okay maybe "short stories" isn't the right term. I mean like producing a dozen to two dozen or so paragraphs, plus dialog between with an identifiable end/conclusion, rather than single lines or one or two paragraphs at a time open ended for further input
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>>108706605
You can tell basically any model to "write a story where abc does xyz" and it will deliver. I think they're better at this than at roleplaying, on average.
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>>108706642
nope its about 6 paragraphs max and you have to tweak especially if its local. And frankly its not that great at it, You could probably do decent getting 2-3 paragraphs at a time and moving to the next story beats but I dont know the best model for this locally check /lmg/. Small stories using non local is about there though you can get decently long replies at this point just by asking.
>>>108702912
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>>108706642
add "make the story long" and/or tell it to write in chapters, that will make long output more likely.
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>>108706646
>>108706657
>>108706668
alright I'll keep investigating. thanks bros
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>>108706721
>>108706721
>>108706721
>>108706721
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>>108706723
>>108706723
>>108706723
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>>108706733
>literal SECOND
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>108706733
CCP thread
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>double page 8 spitebake
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>single jeetroon seethepost
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Which thread bros
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>>108705042
Neat!



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