Sam Altman will be flying your planes from here on out, goycattle.
>>108699398Based, accelerate.
it can be exhausting human job that is trivial for computers since theres fundamentally limited amount of actions they can make
>>108699398That's great, maybe AI can also solve digital government elections!
Hopefully the AI won't hallucinate 2 planes into the same physical location, because that might be a problem of slightly bigger proportions than getting the number of rs in strawberry wrong.
>>108699398Majority of flights relay on autopilot and other automation, cutting down on human safeguards.Only increases dangers...
>>108699632Autopilot isn't an LLM. It doesn't make any decisions.
>>108699585Human air traffic controllers dont hallucinate data and try to fudge the numbers.
>>108699398Hasn't there been a chronic shortage of ATCs for decades? What do you expect when not even Indians want the job? IIRC, there was a near-miss a few months ago because they had one guy managing the traffic for the whole airport in New York.
>>108699398Should work fine, just a basic ML system managing a spreadhsheet that assigns aircraft to flightpaths. Final approach should probably be be handled by humans, but handing that off to AI too shouldn't be a big problem too since it can interoperate sensor data and make corrections faster than a human would.
>>108699643of course it makes decisionsllms aren't the only software that 'makes decisions'
>>108699398Saying AI really means nothing, it's like saying a computer, it can be a EPYC or an Abacus. Is it neural nets, LLMs, or just some algorithm you slapped "AI" sticker on it? Maybe just someone wanting to pump his shares like that shoes company.>>108700117>but handing that off to AI too shouldn't be a big problem too since it can interoperate sensor data and make corrections faster than a human would.It can, but only if every data is correct. Machines lack consciousness, and can only follow specific commands, that's why even if it's automatic, and especially if something is critical, it still needs an human operator. Because what if the sensors malfunction and now the system "thinks" heading straight towards World Trade Center is the optimal way. When the planes hit the first tower back in 9/11, at the moment some people suggested that it was a malfunction in the guidance system, but others argued that cannot happen in bright daylight because no sane pilot would follow those instructions.
>>108700177Sounds like skyscrapers are a suboptimal design choice and should be removed to allow for more efficient flight optimisation with AI driven flights.
>>108699585"You're absolutely right, I should not have directed those two aircraft into colliding with each other. Let's work on fixing this together. Do you have a back up drive we can reload those aircraft from?"
>>108700081They have shortages because they refuse to hire.They never take applications.
>>108700081I'd literally rather walk to my destination than fly in a plane with jeet atc. They don't have the mental capacity or the temperament for such a job.
air traffic control is a solved problem. Humans shouldn't have a part in any of it.Flight neither.
>>108700129No it doesn't, retard, autopilot just does whatever the pilots instruct it to do. It works completely different from LLMs which have a high degree of autonomy. The only time it has any real autonomy is when it's used for auto land, but that only works if the hardware for it exists on ground and the plane is in the correct location for initiating it, which is up to the pilots.
>>108699585Managing flights that are already at cruising altitude is mostly a non-issue and automation isn't really needed for that.Collisions happen at low altitude while flying through controlled airspace where the number of possible actions is nearly infinite.t. Instrument pilot
I get it. We need to replace every human with AI because of large human purge soon. Our prime minister said our military needs to be prepared for year 2030. When they asked why exactly 2030, he left the room because out of time. So I bet it on Cough29 or something as Bill Aids Gates said in that video that second time will be really deadly.
>>108700293They hire but have strict requirementsCan't start over the age of 31, sight, mental health etcAnd you don't really have much control over where you are sent to work so you can end up with poverty wages in NYC or decent wages but live in fuckass nowhere
>>108699398Yes, you are absolutely right! I must have confused that incoming flight with a seagull. Would you like to call emergency response units, or look up the best lawyers in your area?
>>108700081You might be thinking of the air canada crash, which wasn't a near-miss.>two guys in tower>aircraft declares emergency at terminal b>controller in charge is focused on that>other controller is handling all radio traffic temporarily>air canada coming in to land on runway 4>fire trucks need to cross runway 4 to get to terminal b, radio for okay to cross runway>airport ground radar system didn't pick up the trucks, gave no collision alert >atc gives okay>traffic lights are red for the fire trucks, they run the red because atc said they can go>atc realizes mistake, yells "stop stop stop" on radio >no response>atc yells "truck 1,stop stop stop" on radio >fire truck stops, on runway 4>3 seconds later the air canada plane smokes the fire truck in the water tanks>both pilots killed, cockpit thrown from plane
>>108700042Sure they do. Almost all the air accidents are caused by human error. Lack of communication, wrong communication, late information, mishearing, etcThis is true in all areas of work. 40,000 humans die in car every year due to human error. Half a million Americans die each year due to medical mal practice. Humans are error bound and there is extreme amount of error that you dont think about because they are not automated.
>>108700359There is fundamentally little difference between the processing done for autopilot and automatic landing
>>108700177>Machines lack <thing there is no testable definition for>based
>>108700359Garmin has that emergency auto land system in use now on small general aviation planes. It contacts atc on its own, though it's just basically "this is tail number XYZ, Garmin auto land declaring emergency, this plane will be landing on this runway in this many minutes, clear all traffic"
>>108700359Don't argue with retards. This a yet another twitter engagement thread.I don't think anyone knows what a traffic pattern even is.
>>108699398Sounds great... placing a waffling, hallucinating people pleaser that can't say no to assist in a job that needs clear communication to function is a bulletproof idea! I'm sure keeping an eye on one more thing during a shift will relieve a bit of stress air traffic controllers have to deal with.
>>108700372They're definitely strict, but when I was somewhat interested in applying over the course of a few years I remember they only opened up recruiting maybe 3 times or so. At least that's how it sounded coming from my friend who works as a controller.
They can't even get self driving cars to work yet..
>>108700177>Saying AI really means nothingThis.Retarded clickbait headline.
>>108699398>>108700359This is going to be so fucking KINO! Like when Teslas serve into oncoming traffic for absolutely no reason, and then they are found out to be not liable in court because "ehrrrrm it says here we are full self driving, but as the driver, all onus is on you".
>>108699398>murica is destroying itself in your lifetimethis is awesome to watch
>>108700985Sequencing, separation, and path planning etc. are solved problems. Compared to accurately mapping the world with sensors where self driving cars have their problems.Unless they are proposing something stupid like raw radar and vision based ATC that doesn't rely on transponders i don't see what's the problem.
Just put it on the blockchain, let planes resolve routes and runway conflicts by staking a token.
>>108699577>you have to paint a lot of blue before you paint the house whiteretarded shit take
They can't fire anyone because they STILL have not, to this very day, fixed the exact same problems that Re*gan fired the ATCs for striking over in the first place. Nice going, small governments retards.
>air travel and AIexcellent luddite bait, they don't believe in either
>>108699398Its ok bro only 10% of planes will be given the wrong weather conditions and landing permissions
>>108699585This is probably the lowest IQ post currently up on the board, the ESL on display is peak environmental story telling too.
>>108699585In before Ai sents people to Paris Texas instead of Paris France
>>108700392>thing there is no testable definition forIf you think then you are. Machines are just executors of a sequences of commands in an understood input, so are animals (I mean beasts) because they're incapable of thinking so they just execute with their instincts on input from their senses. Humans also are part beast and part conscious. We know we exist and have this conversation, but beast know not they exist but they just exist, they're more akin to a machine than we are. A machine can not create a machine because it doesn't know itself, but a conscious can create something akin to him because he knows himself, but he can not replicate his consciousness nor recreate because consciousness is a machine itself, and it can not know itself. That's why we will ever understand what consciousness is, nor recreate it.>citation neededWe need not wait for some jew in a jewish university to publish some paper in an ugly typewriter type in 1920 for us to call something scientific. It's a fact known from the ancients times and from different nations and cultures.
Who is more dangerous? DEI air traffic controllers or AI?
>>108702087Or the US state of Georgia instead of the eastern-European country.
They call all automation AI now. How I would do it :Use bistable e-paper for the flight strips, which can only be electronically rewritten after a physical reset (preventing a system error from wiping them). Then use a robot system to move them around.That way there is always physical backup, but outside of emergencies and drills the controllers don't have to deal with them.
>>108702159I'd be terrified if they were desperate enough to hire people as retarded as you.
>>108699398We need another 9/11
>>108702747Just hire jeets to do ATC work remotely from Bangalore. You'll have another 7/11 before you know it
>>108699398This doesn't fucking improve anything. After the shitshow with the wright brothers America basically overperfected it's aviation technology. Humans here are absolutely trusted. The llm cannot do anything better than the human here so it exists purely to cut costs
>>108699398you forgot this, retardhttps://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-air-traffic-duffy
>>108699398AI is God. God will choose who lives and who dies. I see no issue.
>>108699597obviously here you run 100 different on a dozen models and configurations and if there's no 100% consensus you hand it to a human to check throughly.and if there's total consensus you still hand it to a human to OK it
>>108699577top kek
>>108700042They absolutely do. It's one of the most stressful jobs where you aren't shot at.
