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Do not, I repeat DO NOT use Arch-derivatives. I tried pic rel to see what all the fuss is about. With about two weeks I had broken packages and mismatched dependencies. EndavourOS encourages you to use yay and pacman, giving you dozens of options of package flavours. Eventually, shit goes wrong because there's no coordination, people just upload packages.

The worst was setting up wifi. Sometimes the driver loads, sometimes it doesn't. I had to scour the internet until I found that some TX limit had to be changed to a higher value. Why the value isn't higher by default is beyond me. It's not like EndeavourOS "developers" know how wifi works, they just package shit.

It's probably best to avoid Arch altogether and use literally anything else.
>Bazzite
>Debian/Devuan
>Void
>Alma
>OpenSUSE
>Slackware
>Gentoo
>Fedora
>Ubuntu
Just stay the fuck away from Arch. Trust me on this. Or suffer the consequences.
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>>108699424
I will continue using Arch but I might try Cachy too
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>>108699485
It's your funeral.
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>>108699424
been using it for two years and haven't had any issues. must be a skill issue
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why didnt you sync your repos, retard?
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>>108699424
Skill issue.
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>>108699501
>>108699522
I used Slackware as my daily driver in the 2000s, so I don't think it is a skill issue.
>>108699520
I did, every time. What I think happened is that a pacman package needed a dependency of a certain version. An AUR package had the same dependency, but a different version. yay installed the dependency package and removed the old one. When I tried to do pacman -Syu it was telling me I had missing dependencies, it couldn't fix it cause it'd break the AUR package.

It doesn't help that yay gives you an option of 10 versions of a package from three different repos without any sort of details. It doesn't explain the consequences of each package version, you're just supposed to pick one at random it seems.

The EndeavourOS network manager is shit, too. On Debian all I had to do was plug in ethernet to get the certificates that I need for the wifi connection. On Endeavour I had to extract certificates, place them in the right directory, etc. etc. Just a PITA.
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i was abusing my arch install by not updating it for months and doing partial upgrades and keeping packages in IgnorePkg and it still worked fine
i have no idea what you guys are doing with your systems
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>filtered by the easiest to use arch fork
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>>108699550
>I used Slackware as my daily driver in the 2000s, so I don't think it is a skill issue.
just because you used a different distro 16 years ago doesn't mean you know shit about linux
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>>108699424
$ head /var/log/pacman.log
[2020-01-04T06:04:52+0000] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -r /mnt -Sy --cachedir=/mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg --noconfirm base linux linux-firmware dhcpcd amd-ucode nano'
[2020-01-04T06:04:52+0000] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2020-01-04T06:14:45+0000] [ALPM] transaction started
[2020-01-04T06:14:45+0000] [ALPM] installed iana-etc (20191212-1)
[2020-01-04T06:14:45+0000] [ALPM] installed filesystem (2019.10-2)
[2020-01-04T06:14:45+0000] [ALPM] installed linux-api-headers (5.3.1-2)
[2020-01-04T06:14:46+0000] [ALPM] installed tzdata (2019c-3)
[2020-01-04T06:14:46+0000] [ALPM] installed glibc (2.30-3)
[2020-01-04T06:14:49+0000] [ALPM] installed gcc-libs (9.2.0-4)
[2020-01-04T06:14:49+0000] [ALPM] installed ncurses (6.1-7

My Arch install is 6 years old now and still going strong, how do you retards manage to fuck it up that hard?
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>>108699424
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>>108699550
>yay
Ah so you're another retard who decides to blame Arch even though you yourself fucked it up using some random bash script.
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>>108699657
>random bash script
It's the default package manager on Endeavour, retard.
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>>108699424
Install CachyOS retard
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>>108699424
Bitch please
I've been on Arch, Manjaro and now CachyOS. In total, for over 15 years. It's fine. There's a reason Valve based their new SteamOS on Arch and it's not
>lul let's go with unstable
It's not Arch's fault that your're too dumb to not brick your system.
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>>108699678
>It's the default package manager on Endeavour, retard.
https://discovery.endeavouros.com/category/pacman/
seems to be pacman according to their own website. did you even bother to learn how arch and arch-based distros work?
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Using endeavourOS for 2 years, everything just works.

I update once every week or two.
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>>108699678
>it's the default package manager on this random frankenarch
Sounds like a self inflicted problem, again.
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I like cachyos but I fucking hate pacman. Sometimes it will hold some folder and I will have to delete it myself. I never had problems like this with apt on mint.
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>>108699424
>With about two weeks I had broken packages and mismatched dependencies.
How?
EndeavourOS practically takes everything from Arch repos. You'd have the same problem with Arch at this point.
I've been using CachyOS for about 8 months now and it's working fine, I think you might genuinely be a retard on this
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>>108699424
works on my machine :)
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>>108699722
>uses arch derivative
>gets burnt
>blames arch
many such retarded cases
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>>108699424
>"Arch broke"
>*looks inside*
>AUR broke Arch
Many such cases
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>>108699424
Bazzite? Is that a real distro? Isn't that the sound effect of the cow udder when you milk them?
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>>108699424
>>It's probably best to avoid Arch altogether and use literally anything else.
>lists void
bait or AI?
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>>108699485
literally just use the cachyos kernel that is in the AUR
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>>108699424
I used Endeavour for a few years, switched to Omarchy last year. The ONLY package issue I have EVER had was with nvidia drivers.
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>>108699424
>DO NOT use Arch-derivatives
Artix is the only TRUE distro that follows Arch Way.
Any sysgolemd distros including archlinux (since 2012) is not Arch Way.
I'M NOT USE ARCH BTW or Artix.
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OP got filtered
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>>108699424 (OP)
>DO NOT use Arch-derivatives
Just skip it and go to next level - Gentoo.

>EndavourOS encourages you to use yay and pacman, giving you dozens of options of package flavours
This is so tiresome
Any Arch-derivative is a SKILL ISSUE by using Calamares and any GUI shit to turn up system.

Actually Arch itself is just a Gentoo for sub-80 IQ nig/g/ers.

All the security packages are on the AUR.
None of them in the main repos. USE CASE?
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-hardened-lts
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zfs-linux-hardened
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-hardened-versioned-bin

Only one "distro" can be seriously mentioned as Arch redpill.
It's CoolRune https://github.com/Michael-Sebero/Algiz-Linux
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>>108702623
>AUR
noob detected
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>>108699552
If someone's system is working well, there's little to post about.
If someone's system is broken, they are more likely to post about it. They are also more likely to be retarded, and so think their experience is universal.
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>>108702877
there is no other reason to use arch
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>>108702854
>just spend 10000 hours compiling basic ass shit if you don't have a 16 core cpu bro
Kill yourselves gentoofags
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>>108702918
yes there is
AUR is detrimental to the arch experience
don't worry you will understand in time
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I have been using Arch for a decade now and it just works.
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arch doesn't force you to use flatpak or snaps
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>>108702974
>you will understand in time
you’re giving him\her\it too much credit
troons unteachable
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>>108702854
>All the security packages are on the AUR.
>None of them in the main repos. USE CASE?
i realised that too kek, what a joke of a distro.
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>>108702957
>xhe needs 16 cores because xer baseline is xer shitty CPU

Builds fine on and old-ass 1650v4
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>>108702974
>>108703264
>don't worry you will understand in time
There is nothing do understand because I have no intention of ever using Arch or any of its derivatives. It's either Debian or Gentoo. Even distros like Void have better software availability in their official repo.
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>>108703532
>Even distros like Void have better software availability in their official repo.
TRUE
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>cures your distrohoping
Nothing personal, kid
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>>108699424
spinoff distros are cancer and people use them because they're naive enough to buy into $CURRENT_TREND
if you need an updated, easy-to-use os just use fedora. just run a few commands after install to get proprietary codecs installed and then you're good to go
if you need updated os but have just use arch with archinstall
if you don't need bleeding edge shit just use mint (doesn't count as "spinoff" imo given its reputability and how good the mint devs are at making a stable distro for normies)
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>>108704942
>spinoff of a spinoff
>doesn't count as a spinoff because... because it just has good rep okay???
Retards like you is why normies hate most linuxfags.
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>>108704946
>erhmmm akshually it is a spinoff
read the quotation marks retard
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>>108703532
this, until some time ago arch didn't have stellarium on their repos.
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>>108704895
based. imperative kiddies will never grok this
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wait..what? EndeavourOS is last I checked basically just baseline Arch compatible (as opposed to those like Manjaro that have different repo/versions etc) except it comes with some desktop presets with DEs and all that and a calamares installer. Its probably one of the better arch distros to use. I'm not sure about Cachy as i've not used it yet.
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>>108699550
>An AUR package had the same dependency, but a different version
>yay installed the dependency package and removed the old one
That's where you fucked up, as soon as you notice the old dependency you nope the fuck out and look for an alternative
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>>108704942
>given its reputability
You mean their reputation of getting pwned and distributing malware through their ISO sites? How many times has it happened again? Yeah I for one am not gonna use an OS made by incompetent retards in charge of Mint.
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>>108705791
Are you retarded enough that you don't check the isos you download?
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>>108706089
Are you retarded enough that you trust a bunch of retards who keeps getting pwned?
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>>108699424
OP is a fag. Endeavor is a rock solid distribution and the homosexual gang running CachyOS is probably behind this FUD.
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Thanks, I'm sticking with Ubuntu.
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>>108699424
Been using arch for I think 3 years now (started with 0 experience using Linux) and I have never had my desktop completely break on me. I even started with endeavourOS and then switched to base arch, never had a problem in either.

Maybe you have a skill issue?
I'd highly recommend not being a nigger and reading.
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>>108704969
It is a downstream from Ubuntu, which in itself is downstream from Debian, therefore it is a "spinoff" as you so eloquently put it. Are you stupid or just retarded?
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>>108706108
I don't trust anyone that's why you check isos. Retard. Go back to windows.
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>>108699424
you literally just told us that you're too retarded to install Arch from bash by using Endeavour and then you expect us to believe you didn't fuck anything else up?
after that you tell people to install Void and Gentoo? newsflash asshole, you're probably going to get filtered even harder by those.
Ubuntu is made for subhumans like you, but honestly I don't think you should use anything other than macOS.

>>108699555
checked
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>>108706188
Kek are you a mint dev or something? Don't blame me for exposing your incompetence, maybe stop being retarded for once in your life
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>>108706214
Go download some hypervisor because you trust le epic hackers. You dumb retard.
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>>108706172
100% skill issue, he got some random AUR package and ended up with conflicting dependencies
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>>108705189
Cachy is ok, tried it on my laptop, it's just arch with some optimized packages + auto snapshots
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>>108706412
I hear good things about it; not sure how it compared to Endeavour but it seems to popular especially with gamers given the optimizations and support for recent hardware. Maybe I'll try it the next time I need a desktop Linux distro
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>>108706398
Keep crying, Mint is a trash distro and only gullible idiots like you fall for it.
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>>108699550
Dunno what to tell you, AUR isn't something you set and forget cause dependencies shift every now and then, that's why isn't recommended for newbies to use it unless is for self contained shit like PolyMC or whatever.
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>>108699424
Imagine my surprise
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>>108699424
>With about two weeks I had broken packages and mismatched dependencies
how do you fuck up this badly this fast holy shit
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>>108706178
kek cant tell if troll or autism
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>>108705791
reputability for stability and ease of use. security mishaps are inevitable in popular software and maybe (although the only info i could find about that happening was ONCE in 2016)
not many distro devs care enough about their ux to make a desktop as solid as cinnamon
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>>108706406
>he got some random AUR package and ended up with conflicting dependencies
that doesn't happen in serious distros because the package manager checks for those things
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>>108707259
Agreed
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I didn't know they were that bare. I always kept myself to regular arch. Although i do get wanting a bleeding edge package manager with a DE setup beforehand



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