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why did we need Rust when this exists?
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What's funny for me is Vibecoding is asking shit in Cobol with Ada.
Somehow it works
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>>108699642
so that tranggers would not pollute the ada echosystem.
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>>108699642
The great thing is you can just start using it now and not worry about what crab fans think.
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>>108699642
Ada was not designed to solve the problem of race conditions. Rust was designed with the hard assumption that all code could potentially be multi-threaded, and therefore even accessing a global mutable variable is treated as unsafe.
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>>108700474
And that's why they invented SPARK, which could be formally verified and statically analyzed to prevent race conditions.
I'm so tired of rustoids thinking their language is anything new.
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>>108699642
>Unbothered by crabs
>In my lane
>Contracts written
>SPARK_Mode => On
>Formally verified
And shielded from LLM tards
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>>108700790
is that crunchy luna
cute
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>>108700521
SPARK can't even free dynamic memory in a safe way. It's pretty much useless for practical software development.
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>>108699642
What was the last project you've done in Ada?

>inb4 none
Then why do you larp?
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>>108701051
You seem upset
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>>108701051
The only programming language I know is Ada, I've been using it for about 3 decades now.
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>>108701057
yes, I am upset at people larping as Ada programmers without even using it. It's a nice language, but unfortunately it attracts tons of midwits who got filtered by Rust so they pretending to be Ada programmers and give all sorts of retarded takes, giving others false or just bad picture of Ada and its users.
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>>108701073
So, what's the last project you've made in Ada?
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>>108701088
Most projects I've made were under NDA, latest personal one that I recall was a little Space Invaders clone I made to learn the easy_graphics library
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over engineered committee language that has 9+ standard string types.
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>>108701076
>got filtered by rust
>the training wheels language
sure, if you say so.
>>108701242
but enough about common lisp
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>>108699642
because every "just use ADA" retard doesn't actually use ADA and so has no clue why their argument is completely retarded
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>>108701045
Not true. That's like saying Rust isn't memory safe because of unsafe blocks.
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>>108701266
common lisp was made for the lisp community by the lisp community. Ada was made by a group of hired professionals to design a language to fit a specification from the department of defense.

https://www.adahome.com/History/Steelman/steelman.htm

In the early ada papers, they explain their decisions with "programmers should not be able to do that because it may be error prone" or "we will enforce this kind of style to make it easier for tools to analyze the code". DoD wanted its programmers to be good little soldiers. Ada is anti freedom and would be the worst programming language to pick for an hacker.
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>>108701282
it's conditionally memory safe
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>>108701350
Everything in that image applies to C too btw.
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>>108701362
C has a built-in enabled-by-default sub-language in it that disallows any operation that could produce invalid state?
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>>108701371
Fil-C, Frama-C, etc.
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bbbbbut it's not a part of the standard and it's not default!!!
And? Rust doesn't even have a standard, making all of this shit completely arbitrary. LMAO.
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Both Ada and Rust are unknown and unused outside of US glowfag circles.
Neither hobby programmers nor corporate programmers touch that shit.

Go ahead and luck up the job market for Rust.
Or try to find any OpenSource Rust project that is actually run by hobbyists.
Both are non-existent.
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>>108701282
>Not true
It's true, there is no way to safely free dynamic memory in SPARK and Ada as a whole.
Rust solves this by introducing lifetimes.
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>>108699642
>Paid compiler
LULW
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>>108701315
>made by DoD
that's how you know it's good. always do what the big guys on top are doing. but never listen to what they tell you to do.
>the worst programming language to pick for an hacker.
yeah, since it's not as easy for them to hack software written in it. which is a good thing for you, the programmer or user.
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>>108701362
Yeah, but C is a degenerate case because it has no safe code. This implication always holds in C because the right side of that graph is an empty set.
Unless we consider other kinds of safety, like stack safety and inline asm instead of unsafe. Then it's true that as long as your inline asm is sound then all the C guarantees are upheld. For example you can't fuck up your stack pointer unless you write bad asm code. But this is true for virtually every high level programming language ever.
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>>108701409
Your post has been processed by Rust code in order to end up here.
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>>108701456
The .unwrap() one, made by the government adjacent company?
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>>108701442
>always do what the big guys on top are doing.
This really benefitted C++.
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>>108701409
>Ada is underused
it's extremely common in aerospace industry
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>>108701459
>The .unwrap() one?
unwrap is a common function you see in Rust.

>made by the government adjacent company?
If you consider Google, Microsoft, Cloudflare, Mozilla, Apple and AWS to be government adjusted.
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>>108701461
Aerospace industry is a minuscule part of software industry.
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>>108701461
Safety critical software, which includes aerospace industry, is written by putting blocks together.
Like SCADE or all the PLC stuff.

You specifically mean Being, the government military contractor that is currently known for crashing a lot and hiring lots of DEI niggers... they use Ada.. correct.
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>>108701460
modern C++ is a gazillion year more safe than C
as long as you use
RAII
std::array and std::vector instead of c arrays
std::string and std::string_view instead of const *char
unique_ptr and shared_ptr instead raw pointers
std::variant instead of unions
std::optional instead of returning null
wraping C libraries in C++ classes with RAII and encapsulation
C++'s different casts instead of C style casts.

you should be pretty safe. but again those are opt in.
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>>108701472
>If you consider Google, Microsoft, Cloudflare, Mozilla, Apple and AWS to be government adjusted.
Yes? You don't?
They are the companies pushing DEI bullshit. You think that DEI hires get you more profit?
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>>108701472
>If you consider [list of companies with proven NSA backdoors] to be government adjusted.
what did he mean by this?
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>>108701483
>muh only boeing
wrong
Lockheed Martin
BAE Systems
Northrop Grumman
Raytheon
Nasa
European Space Agency

not aerospace but a lot of rail systems run on ada too like Alstom and London Underground

Toyota uses ada too.
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>>108701489
>>108701483

is this DEI in the room with us right now?
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>>108701510
>list of MIC companies
see >>108701409
>are unknown and unused outside of US glowfag circles

btw. Lockheed Martin is so fucking incomppetent that they had their jet software crash when crossing timezones. Their Ada code is less stable than what some javascript codemonkey puts together.
Government contractors aren't known for their high quatlity and if you are forced to use something specifically for government certifications, you tend to do a worse job.
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>>108701515
yes, it's promoting Rust here
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>>108699642
Because Ada doesn't have typeclasses.
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>>108701521
>are unknown and unused outside of US glowfag circles
because they don't want safe software on consumer hardware. otherwise NSO group can't hack the stinky smelly C code running on your phone with a phone call.

always do what the glowies do. and don't do what they tell you to do. when it comes to serious code that can't afford to fail. Ada dominates. to this day. although they might start introducing rust soon.
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>>108701528
>i hate rust because hur dur something something trannies.
lol. cniles can't even come up with a good cope nowadays.
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>>108701549
so you say that all their Rust-pushing projects and shilling for Rust proves that Rust is low-quality garbage, because glowfags want us to use garbage

Got it.
But seriously, this dishonest idiotic argumentation gets you nowhere.
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>>108701560
don't ask me. i am not a rust shill. i created this thread specifically to criticize the craze for rust when Ada exists.
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>>108701531
what the usecase for typeclasses?
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>>108701397
fil-c does not prevent invalid state, frama-c I do not know
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>>108701557
no, this argumentation is pretty solid: >>108701409

Rust is in bumfuck nowhere of complete irrelevancy when you look at any language statistics anywhere.
Doesn't matter if its gihub stats, if you look at job offers or if you take the code of some random DEs or even Linux kernel stats (despite this being under government pressure).
Both Rust and Ada are non-existent. Hobbyists don't use it and you don't get a job with it.

The only times you see Rust code, is when some government contractor corpo pushes it and it always crashes and burns.
Be it cloudflares .unwrap() or Canonicals uutils fiasco.
None of this is based on objective decisions of quality. It is not voluntarily chosen.
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>>108701442
>>made by DoD
>that's how you know it's good
clueless
and not made by DoD, auctioned for by the DoD
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>>108701409
> Neither hobby programmers nor corporate programmers touch that shit.
I have a game launcher hobby project in Rust that I use almost daily for years, currently I work on a gamedev project in Rust/Bevy. At this very moment, I'm compiling another Rust project (gltf-ibl-sampler-egui) to transform Blender's built-in exr's into ktx2 format for use with Bevy.
> Or try to find any OpenSource Rust project that is actually run by hobbyists.
https://github.com/pcwalton/gltf-ibl-sampler-egui
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>>108701488
and all of those have footguns
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>>108701595
>https://github.com/pcwalton/gltf-ibl-sampler-egui
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>>108701597
that's cnile cope
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>>108701576
Fil-C is memory safe. Just like Rust.
Nobody is comparing it to SPARK.
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>>108701595
I made a game launcher in bash.
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>>108701461
>>ada is underused
>what? basically all the shopping carts in walmarts in the chereokee nation, made on july 7th 2005!
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>>108701429
Again, not true. SPARK has borrows for access types.
Stop getting your information from ChatGPT.
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>>108701603
>that's cnile cope
that's tranny cope
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>>108701602
And? The gui is in Rust. The same thing I use for my launcher gui btw, because it's ez and super lightweight, and fully statically linked. Few mb executable and 20mb RAM footprint.
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>>108701570
C++ templates but at the same time more powerful and easier to use, have better compiler errors. Also allow dynamic polymorphism when needed, but by default use static specialization. It's basically C++ templates done right, with powerful features preserved and problematic areas solved.

> .unwrap
It is true, unwrap is a disaster. They need to come up with some way to only allow unwrap for early prototyping. Maybe even disable release builds if there are still unwraps in code. Maybe even disallow publishing to crates_io if there are any unwraps. Maybe make unwraps only possible in unsafe { ... } code.
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>>108701603
array and vector, string can still OOB
iterator invalidation
vector<bool>
initializer list vs element size ctor confusion
object slicing
smart pointers can still be null
std::variant can be valueless by exception
optional can't hold references also no monadic ops till 23
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>>108701639
https://rust-lang.github.io/rust-clippy/master/index.html#unwrap_used
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>>108701488
why would i care about any of this? just hack your code and produce something.
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>>108701619
Don't you think that it is kinda weird how Rust is in bumfuck nowhere, barely able to run a GUI that executes C++ code or launches C++ written applications, while being shilled here this much?
Something doesn't add up.
Where are all the Fortran threads? It has an active community of double the size of Rust.

Meanwhile all the corpo Rust projects crash and burn, like uutils and cloudflare. And the community Rust projects either die through suicide (the one Redox guy who killed himself) or die after the unstable spaghetti code accumulates so much technical debt that it becomes unmaintainable (that Apple GPU driver).
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lel, i am looking at Ada object model and it's atrocious.


https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Object_Orientation#Encapsulation:_public,_private_and_protected_members

this c++ class
 class C {
public:
int a;
void public_proc();
protected:
int b;
int protected_func();
private:
bool c;
void private_proc();
};

become in Ada
private with Ada.Finalization;

package CPP is

type Public_Part is abstract tagged record -- no objects of this type
A: Integer;
end record;

procedure Public_Proc (This: in out Public_Part);

type Complete_Type is new Public_Part with private;

-- procedure Public_Proc (This: in out Complete_Type); -- inherited, implicitly defined

private -- visible for children

type Private_Part; -- declaration stub
type Private_Part_Pointer is access Private_Part;

type Private_Component is new Ada.Finalization.Controlled with record
P: Private_Part_Pointer;
end record;

overriding procedure Initialize (X: in out Private_Component);
overriding procedure Adjust (X: in out Private_Component);
overriding procedure Finalize (X: in out Private_Component);

type Complete_Type is new Public_Part with record
B: Integer;
P: Private_Component; -- must be controlled to avoid storage leaks
end record;

not overriding procedure Protected_Proc (This: Complete_Type);

end CPP;



You have to declare a different type for the public part, a different type for the private part and finally a third different type that has both parts. TOP KEK.
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>>108701656
You’re using edge cases to block the main gain.
all those drastically improve on what C had. there are edge cases, fair. but it's still better than we had.
my argument was that C++ was a move in the right direction. which it was.

despite the fact that some of those issues mentioned are a nothingburger or a cnile's misunderstanding of C++.
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>>108699642
Shitty and expensive compilers. Back then compilers cost money and things like gcc were anomalies. Ada had to compete with free of charge and it lost.
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>>108701673
https://madnight.github.io/githut/

ubuntu is now shipping rust coreutils. linux kernel has rust code. +10% of firefox is written in rust. windows kernel has rust code.
i can't recall the last time i run code written in fortran.
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>>108701409
Airbus and the French aerospace industry use Ada quite extensively.
>>108701279
Are least those "retards" know that Ada isn't an acronym so they don't write it ADA.
>>108699642
There was never a real push made to make Ada a consumer level language. Yes, in recent years they've opened more of the ecosystem up for free use but the culture around it continues to be that of an old school industrial product with a high barrier to entry. My university was one of the few that used Ada as a primary language but after graduation, it was nearly impossible to continue using in any effective manner without working for an industrial concern, usually aerospace or military related.
Not sure what's the solution at this point. Maybe Nvidia's interest in it will generate some community buzz around it.
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>>108701715
>ubuntu is now shipping rust coreutils
For months now. And it was an utter catastrophe.
It was so bad, that they had to pay even more shekels to higher external companies for security audits and despite it already being in Ubuntu stable, they had to pull out basic tools like cp or mv (literally just copying or moving a file), because of the high amount of bugs.
Canonical lost business because of this. I myself know a company that dropped Ubuntu because of that move.
Not because they hate Rust, but because Canonical pushes something experimental and untested on their customers.
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/an-update-on-rust-coreutils/80773/1

As i said:
This is not an objective decision. It's a government contractor company following government recommendations.
It is a decision bad for non-government-related business. It is worse quality than before. It is more buggy than before. It results in a worse product.

>linux kernel has rust code
And how much is that? And again government pushed.

>+10% of firefox is written in rust
Mozilla is THE CREATOR of Rust and this is the results of decades of work by the people who created the language. Even the creators have 90% C code.
And then mozilla fired them. They kicked the Rust team out.
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>>108701715
Rust is now the main programing language for the low level part of android.

https://security.googleblog.com/2025/11/rust-in-android-move-fast-fix-things.html
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>>108701715
>rust coreutils
CVE-2026-35338
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CVE-2026-35380
CVE-2026-35381
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>>108701670
Thanks.
>>108701673
I liked Rust way before it was shilled Reddit-style and I still like it for the same reasons.
Bringing abstractions that Java and C# still dream of into C++ level language.
> Where are all the Fortran threads? It has an active community of double the size of Rust.
Lol, no, that is complete utter bullshit. It is ancient language that is a super niche thing only ever used for HPC.
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>>108701790
>It is ancient language that is a super niche
I personally know people using Fortran. They are PhDs and work in science. And Matlab itself (engineering field) is nothing more than a fancy frontend to Fortran libraries.

The amount of people who work in science with Fortran is higher than the total amount of Rust developers on the world. I am pretty sure.

Just because something gets shilled on the order of some fat fucks in some government, doesn't mean that it is popular. Rust is a total niche product.
You are more likely to get a job coding in Fortran (need a good degree for that, but still) than to get anything done with Rust.
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>>108701823
> I personally know people using Fortran. They are PhDs and work in science. And Matlab itself (engineering field) is nothing more than a fancy frontend to Fortran libraries.
Yes, this is very believable.
> The amount of people who work in science with Fortran is higher than the total amount of Rust developers on the world. I am pretty sure.
Nah, I'm 100% sure that Haskell is way more popular in dev jobs than Fortran and I've seen many such jobs and know a dozen people working on stuff like smart contracts in crypto or quantitative modelling in banks like Barcleys, etc.
As for Rust, it's like 1000x times more popular than that, it is JS tier maintstream language at this point.
As for Fortran, you should read your own message and think about it again. It's very true that Fortran is used by HPC academy and in libraries like BLAS/LAPACK or whatever that is used everywhere in AI/ML through Python wrappers, in data science through Matlab, Julia, etc.
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>>108701928
Haskell is more popular than Rust.
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>>108701715
>i can't recall the last time i run code written in fortran.
>How could Kamala lose? Everyone I know voted for her!
Your personal experience does not dictate reality for the rest of the universe.
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>>108701928
>As for Rust, it's like 1000x times more popular than that, it is JS tier maintstream language at this point.
Rn, Rust is equal to Go, just below Fortran and PHP, just above Matlab and Assembly. Pic related.
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>>108701928
Fortran doesn't have a big community of inexperienced people asking how to get the basic work done. You don't "see" Fortran people in the online community because they're simply getting their work done without a need to constantly beg others for help. Endless forums to assist with your favorite tech stack isn't the good sign you think it is.
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>>108701705
Anon I am not arguing C is better, I use sepples professionally so I know all of these footguns by hand and the fact that the committee never has a good solution right away, they ALWAYS fucks something up, and if you're lucky they will fix it later, but don't worry, they will fuck up an equal amount of other shit to offset it
like why in god's name would you design an iterator adapter library that may call an underlying iterator twice so six fucking years later you have to add cache_latest when the unofficial library you're aping shit from had it for like forever
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>>108701928
You think that university education is rare?
Fortran is amazing for running scientific models and has decades of optimizations for that specific task. You think that some guy doing scientific studies will switch languages just because some idiot tells him that his language is "old" and that he has to use something "new"?

What rational reason is there to rewrite a weather simulation model into a "current language"?

Think about how many universities offering scientific degrees there are in the world.
Now consider that pretty much all of them will have Fortran somewhere.
You think that this community isn't larger than your little Rust shilling circlejerk?
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>>108702049
> You think that this community isn't larger than your little Rust shilling circlejerk?
Sure it isn't, it's very tiny.
>>108701986
> TIOBE
I've never delved into what they're even trying to show, maybe they are being honest about their metrics somewhere, but in any case considering this index relevant to language popularity in any dimension did never make any sense. If you want to do your own research to find the truth, first thing to check is github repos with hobby projects and various open source libraries. Just look at activity numbers and what and how many stuff people are doing for fun. Second step would be to check forums and online discussions, volumes of posting. 4chan is very interesting in this regard because it got this subtle rightoid bias when certain things get hyped or neglected based on perceived political connotations. It wasn't always like this and it is annoying. This is most likely why Rust is way less popular on 4chan than in general internet.
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>>108702128
>I've never delved into what they're even trying to show
It is stated in the description. And their method of gathering data is favorable to Rust.

Like there is no way in this world that Rust is more popular than Matlab, considering that the metric is:
> number of skilled engineers, curses and third party vendors
Every little engineering school, doesn't even have to be a college or university, has Matlab courses.
Think about your own reality, anon.
Forget about the fake shilling world on the internet.
How many job offers do you see for Rust? How many people do you know how code in Rust?
I personally would have no issue at all finding someone who knows Matlab and uses it in his job. I don't know a single person or company using Rust.

On the Internet, if you take shilling as a metric, Rust is as popular as JS.
In reality, as soon as you take stats about used languages... doesn't matter if it is this TIOBE study or github stats or a look into job positions... Rust barely gets into the Top 20.
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>>108702034
When people and data disagree, usually it's the data that is wrong.
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>>108699642
Because not only it's more annoying to build anything with, it also cannot target everything or outperform cpp like rust can.
Rust is just a more practical choice and better replacement to cpp than ada is.
And i do like ada, it just doesn't fit the same niche.
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Too much legacy defense industry software and dependencies.
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>>108702174
Isn't there an Ada compiler in gcc?
That would mean that it supports at least ten times more targets than Rust.
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>>108701747
>My university was one of the few that used Ada as a primary language
Stuttgart?
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>>108702189
Rust can be compiled using the gcc backend, it has been able to for a while.
Get with the times.
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>>108702224
>Please note, the compiler is in a very early stage and not usable yet for compiling real Rust programs.
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>>108699642
for all of Rust's flaws, Ada has even more
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>>108702161
> I personally would have no issue at all finding someone who knows Matlab and uses it in his job. I don't know a single person or company using Rust.
I don't know a single person or company using Matlab. I know countless people using Rust and hundreds of projects using Rust, and highly popular Steam games written in Rust ,etc, etc, etc. I do believe you though, that Matlab and Fortran are used in universities. I even used Matlab in university course myself once or twice. Never used Fortran though.
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The sad thing about this whole thread is: people naturally end up in certain circles that have different subcultural specifics. Some people even get into circles where truly exotic stuff like Ada or Fortran is popular. This was a gift of fate that could make humanity as a whole more diverse. But instead we all go on top 3 internet forums and try to put ourselves under some common global denominator.
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>>108702444
nothing that is shilled as popular on the internet is actually popular in the real world
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>>108701488
Whenever it's safe or not, doesn't change the fact that committee did irreparable damage to the language.
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>>108701489
Whenever I consider them adjusted to aby goverment, doesn't change the fact that your post has been processed by Rust code in order to end up here.
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>>108701494
I meant >>108702673
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>>108701569
>criticize the craze for rust when Ada exists.
Ada doesn't even solve same issues that Rust does.
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>>108701583
>Rust is in bumfuck nowhere of complete irrelevancy when you look at any language statistics anywhere.
>The only times you see Rust code, is when some government contractor corpo pushes it and it always crashes and burns.
Your post has been processed by Rust code in order to end up here.
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>>108701615
Whenever SPARK gas borrows for a cess types doesn't change the fact that you can't safely free dynamic memory in it.

>Stop getting your information from ChatGPT.
I have been programming in Ada before you even knew what GPT is.
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>>108701673
>Don't you think that it is kinda weird how Rust is in bumfuck nowhere, barely able to run a GUI that executes C++ code or launches C++ written applications, while being shilled here this much?
Your post has been processed by Rust code in order to end up here.
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>>108702317
>the source can be found deep within my ass
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>>108702690
>An existing process that existed for decades has been transliterated into Rust and your post is being processed through it for no actual advantage over the old code that worked fine for decades.
Fixed that for you. Rust is good for one thing: fucking up existing systems.
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>>108702169
Interesting that you've appointed yourself as the arbiter of what "people" believe.
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>>108703315
The benefit of Rust is that people with good taste are more likely to be willing to work on the project.
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>>108703315
Everything is transliteration of something else. Welcome to software engineering.

>for no actual advantage over the old code that worked fine for decades.
Whenever there was an advantage or not, it doesn't change the fact that your post has been processed by Rust code in order to end up here.

What's up with the persistent goalposting ITT?
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>>108703338
NTA but that's literally why Linus added Rust to Linux kek.
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>>108702705
Wrong yet again. You literally know nothing about the language. https://www.adacore.com/papers/safe-dynamic-memory-management-in-ada-and-spark
Tell your LLM that there's far more to it than
Unchecked_Deallocation
. That's old fashioned.
>I have been programming in Ada before you even knew what GPT is.
I have been programming in Ada before you were even born.
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>>108703340
Spoken like a mindless clone who has never had an original thought in xis life. How pathetic, especially how proud you are of doing nothing but copying the work of others and proclaiming it a huge accomplishment.
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>>108705432
>non standard extension

>>108705489
Huh ok
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>>108705489
>How pathetic, especially how proud you are of doing nothing but copying the work of others and proclaiming it a huge accomplishment.
That's literally what Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie did and C programmers worship them.
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>>108706028
Yeah, and? Why does that matter when Rust has no standard >>108701397
Strange amount of silence on that matter. Probably because there's no refutation possible.
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>>108701609
it's not, it simply catches some errors by using a runtime
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>>108706055
>you said the s word I get to spam my retarded shit again!
learn the difference between a noun and an adjective and you'll know why it matters, ranjesh
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>>108705489
anon once you get BTFO you can just stop posting, you don't need keep trying to save face
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>>108706273
Memory safety achieved statically at compile-time versus dynamically at runtime doesn't matter, it's still memory safety. Failed attempt at shifting the goalpost.
>>108706290
Whether "standard" is a noun or an adjective doesn't matter in this context, pajeet. "Standard" as an adjective only has relevance to the argument if the noun describes something that does exist... which it doesn't in Rust's case, because Rust has no standard.
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>>108701483
And has Ada been found at fault in these crashes? No. You’re clutching at straws here absolutely seething about the existence of Ada, and I find that strange.
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I worked on an Ada project once, did everything perfectly, but after each launch it always ended up crashing; I was promoted for this.
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>>108701483
i think it's actually mandated by the faa in most cases. from memory the issue with boeing was indians and c.
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>>108701611
based



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