should AI has its own board?
AI and kpop need their own boards so all of those shitters can just post in their containment boards and not fill up every other board
>>108700693yes I'm tired of /g/ being 90% local LLM schizoposting, 'rate my stable diffusion waifu' threads, and endless slop. Technology used to be about tech, now it's just a prompt engineering gallery. Move the AI cultists to their own board already.
we already have /a/ & /lgbt/ for the programming sock-wearing maid computer-using autistic ytboi rustrannys/g/ is the AI board.
>>108700693technology?
>>108700773large language model
>>108700693Yes of course, it detracts and pushes out all the other technology discussion (like arguing about wayland/gnome/systemd/the latest itoddler device).
>>108700693YesEvery board has some sort of AI general and dozens of AI shills/bots peddling their slop
>>108700693yes
>>108700693/g/ is dying.Even if you assume that the rise in traffic since 2023 was from AI, the fall is pretty sharp. Much worse than in many boards.The traffic hasn't been this bad since 2008.One might argue that a slow board is better, but I wager the "# of shitposts : # of total posts" has increased significantly throughout all these years.Even if you isolated AI to its own containment board, you'd need a GR15 janny squad to enforce, and so /g/ could never really be cleansed. And if it were, again, it's not like the rest of the board would stop shitposting and making bait threads and such. The times have changed and effortposts receive way less engagement than posting twitter screencaps, politics, porn, memes etc. And given the adage that 4channers are mostly teens and young adults, you can imagine how bad things would be.I imagine, in the upcoming years once the AI hype crashes (and potentially burns), /g/ will become a wasteland like /sci/ and /his/.
>>108701118/g/ is already dead. It's a festering culture warzone now, except with only one side screaming into the void. Just look at how many copypaste outrage images/phrases "people" are vomiting into this thread. It's like a parody of what knowyourmeme imagines /pol/ is, except they're actually serious. Nothing that made old /g/ good could survive here now. If you're not personally invested in spending every waking hour shitting american politics into each others mouths while "fighting" a non-existent enemy, leave. Stay on boards that are as far removed from american politics as possible. /a/ is still good because the mods are vigilant and delete everything non-anime related.
>>108700693Yes. I think at this point it deserves its own containment board.
>>108700693i'm thinking yes
>>108700706i hate the kpop faggots, but they're in large part responsible for animating /mu/'s corpsewithout ai and kpop both /g/ and /mu/ would grind to a crawl - /g/ more so than /mu/there's no need for a split
>>108700693More like a generals containement board like vg because what the fuck is this shit. Some of them are still dodging my filters too.
>>108701502I’ve been using this board since 2019 and it has always been the same shit, you say it as if it got bad recently. Unless you’re comparing it to what it was 10+ years ago but then every board sucks now
>>108701538trannies just need to keep the 3 general per board rule and everything would be fine
Yes, we need more room for Apple advertisement threads.
>>108700693it should have a board, but there are too many board relevant uses of AI for AI use to be limited to just its own board. Frankly most of the /g/ ones would fit better on other boards.
>>108700693konata should sit on my face
>>10870155610 years ago is only 3 years before 2019
its been 7 fucking years since they made a new board, people have been demanding a religion board for ages, i dont think they will make an ai board or a new board at all, they are lazy faggots
>>108700693technically yes, in pratice there's no point because in few years it wil be instrinsecally baked in every tech related thing not matter how much you stomp your feet so it will be a superflous divide, it's like if you went on /ic/ and started asking if photoshop should have its own boardif anything soon there will be "non ai" boards since that will be the nice
YES
>>108701616/his/ is already the religion board and used to be /x/ too until that janny finally hung himself >ABLOOBLOOBLOO AHH I NEED 6 QUINTILLION SUPERFLUOUS BOARDS LIKE ON MY REDDITgo back
>>108701664if a dedicated religion board gets added they should also add a magic one. a religion board would just simulate real life where they spam reports on opposing religions and shitpost in their threads until the opposing ones stop posting and their religion takes over.
>>108701532there is nothing wrong with a slow board
>>108701532>without cats rat society will not survive
>>108701634I'd argue that even then there will be a difference between AI specific threads and the ones you mentioned. Some people like the AI itself, setting up local models, scripting their workflows, training Loras. It's different than a normal person just using it from time to time as a small part of their workflow.
>>108701877if by ai specific threads you mean stuff like training, local setups etc arent the generals enough?
>>108701664>/his/ is already the religion boardWhich is terrible and makes actually discussing humanities impossible with all of the larpers.>and used to be /x/ tooWhich was terrible and it basically killed the board because of all the larpers. In both cases it would have been better to shove all the spiritual shit somewhere else before it got out of hand, now you're basically saying it's fine because it's already too late and those board cultures will never recover.>6 quintillion superfluous boardsBoards being added to handle massive changes in trajectory aren't new or "reddit" at all, it's where /vg/ came from. /vrpg/ being a pointless addition doesn't mean a board that actually addresses something major shouldn't be made anymore.
Its6about time absolutely.>Diffusion>Local diffusion>not local diffusion>Dalle>Local dalle>not local dalle>malware, personal data stealing and blackmailing character chatbotsEnough. Only Local Model making and ai general questions should stay on /g/.
Wud b laff ngl
>>108700693no, unless you want to welcome AI by giving it a dedicated boardyou might not like it, but it's still technology, a very current one at that, and is more technology related than a lot of other regular threadsif you want to see less AI threads on the board, make more non-AI technology-related threads
More like Luddites stuck in 2010s should be forced onto a retro tech board.
There should be, but it's nice to see 95%+ of threads about AI that aren't generals are made up entirely of people baiting with lazy CEO marketing lies and explaining why the tech is a dead end.
>>108700693Criminals ie heads of businesses should be brought to justice.There's a problem, we are treated like worthless second rate people.
>>108700693>should AI has its own board?>>>/a/ has it's own board any they don't stay there yet AI must have it's own board despite being absolutely computing and there for a technology?
>>108702019>More like Luddites stuck in 2010s should be forced onto a retro tech board.This! Make >>>/rg/ already. >>>/vr/ already exists for gaming why doesn't it exist for technology?
>>108700693no, but konata should
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>>108700693yes, and you know what board you belong to
Gacha has their own board but they still appear all over /v/ and 95% of /vg/ is still gacha.What we really need is to cut off the internet to asia.
>>108702528that's kind of racist man, without their innovations and research into technology we wouldn't be here today.
>>108702545We'd be fine. All the important early work was largely done by Americans and Europeans and if China and Japan just didn't exist, we'd have filled in the gaps. This may be a surprise, but usually if a niche is empty someone will fill it. Of course it doesn't mean their contributions were worthless, but acting as if they are irreplaceable is a bit silly.
>>108701502>nowLet me guess, you're sad that all the programmer sock and tranny spamming that used to happen didn't catch on and people went the other direction? It's funny how people act like there wasn't a very obvious push from transgender activists to turn all the boards into their own weird circle jerk. /s4s/ and /r9k/ got hit really hard, but ultimately you lost on /g/.Also >imply /g/ hasn't been /pol/ for years
>>108700693/g/ would lose 90% of its traffic
>>108701889Yes, they should be enough, not saying AI threads aren't cancer at the moment, just that there will always be enthusiasts about things that other people just see as boring background noise. Just like for instance most people just use their keyboards to get the job done, but you still have /mkg/ etc.
>>108702335I feel like a retro /mu/ would be nice. Not sure where the best cutoff date would be though.
>>1087028572007 just like >>>/vr/
>>108702770>/g/ would lose 90% of its trafficAlso this, /g/ has been losing traffic to begin with it's the AI generals that are the only active ones.
>>108702888Videogames are a vastly more new technology than music, though. What feels "retro" in games is not the same as what feels "retro" in music. I was thinking anything after the 1980s would be forbidden but maybe that's too strict.
>>108700706Yeah we should remove all technology from the technology board. We need different boards for computers, iPhones, internet tech, household appliances, electricity, programming, cars, techniques, YouTube, fishing equipment
>>108700693Yes and I say it as someone who actually reads AI threads. When I go on /g/ I usually have either the goal of looking up AI stuff or just wanting to browse the board for random tech stuff, not both at the same time. It would be incredible useful to have the AI sloppa in its own bin for easy viewing.
>>108702888/vr/ was killed ever since they allowed newer than Dreamcast because the zoomies whose first consoles were Gamecube and such flooded in and started frogposting and wojakposting.t. grumpy old man
>>108700693>>108700725Board fragmentation is part of what killed 4chan to begin with. Not everything needs its own board. What 4chan actually needs is fewer boards with better moderation.
Software engineer with AI as a hobby (train my own models)I dislike /g/ how it is now. I either want to see specific AI stuff and the rest of /g/ is clutter to me in that moment or I want /g/ stuff and I have to wade through AI shit and even in the threads I see irrelevant AI shitposting or AI-themed trolling/doomposting.Split the boards like what was done when cryptocurrency became a thing.
>>108700693Yes.Having no other option than to have to decide which AI art containment general on which board you should post in is stupid. AI art should have a board with it's own posting culture and topics with niche threads that aren't just "[topic] diffusion general". I think each board should keep their AI art generals, but you should be able to make a thread about AI art without being confined to a general on a particular board or making a new thread on a non-AI focused board where most people will tell you to fuck off to the general.
>>108703127AI has penetrated into software talk so hard that it's quite depressing seeing all other discussion wane so much.
>>108703124Yeah, it's trivial to ignore the AI generals or filter them, so it's very easy to ignore the AI posts. The issue with /g/ will always be poor moderation and the fact that retards cannot help themselves from responding to the same bait thread every time they see it.
>>108700693Yes, and posting AI-generated images on other boards should be banned.
>>108700693If AI has its own non-blue board then the AI art generals from every other board can go there. That sounds good to me
>>108703124incorrect. gook moot killed 4chan. this website could be 100x better if anything was done to improve it. without containment boards the mlp fags would be shitting up every board the exact same way ai fags are.
>>108700693Those slop dumps should at least be conflated into one, there's like 8 of them. There really is no reason for them to exist, or to allow so many.
>>108700780>reductio ad absurdumThose topics are still more relevant than an imagedump of AI-generated garbage.
>>108700693For the love of god yes. Give them a containment board already. >>108701935Vladilena a cute.
>>108700693yes absolutely, AIfags are too cancerousnothing is more of plague than them
i find the ai stuff tiresome, but it does belong in /g/
>>108703930I'd hit it
ai threads here are almost universally just posting image generation or screenshots of a chat bot. They belong in their own thread or in a board made for the subject of the generated content, not on a technology board just because technology is involved. Then again I think the music production general belongs on the music board, so what do I know. An Al board would be alright, if there was some conflict with dumping AI content on the board it would align with
>>108703996No, you're right. Music production is music, not technology.
>>108700693No, we need less slop threadsBut we should develop AI
>>108703930
>>108700693You should have your own board, I'm tired of seeing your posts.
>>108702762/g/ was terrible before it was full of butthurt Marxists seething about AI. Before AI, everyone just LARPed as a techbro despite obviously only being about 13 years old. It was awful. Nobody has ever helped anyone on /g/ with anything, and nobody has ever learnt anything on /g/.
>>108700693GIVE US AN ARCHITECTURE BOARD ALREADY!
>>108700725This, I am so fucking sick and tired of the top threads being LLMs schizos and Indians generating AI slop rate threads. Fuck them, this board used to be about actual tech discussion.
>>108705758That comment you made was the dealbreaker for me. I’m moving on. Wish you the best, but don’t reach out.
>>108706507It's a board that needs wrangling for the nature of it
>>108700693>Should it?Yes.>Will it?No.
yes. but nsfw
>>108706507>used to be about actual tech discussion.well if we go by that logic we might as well return to guro days
>>108700693At this point, yes. I don't come here very often and every time I do, the fucking catalog is half AI-related.
>>108703072the gamecube is 25 years old this year my dude. the nes was only 19 years old when /v/ was made (i can't find when /vr/ was made)
>>108706749>thing is old now so it must arbitrarily be grouped in with discussions about things of a specific experimental and founding era before the norms that continue to this day were established and even though thing exists outside of that era and within the current norms it should be forced on everyone who doesn't want to talk about it because I'm a zoomer and old thing with the same norms as today is "retro" to me because I can't comprehend the separation of eras and things being arbitrarily "old" and fuck you uncle.This is why /vr/ is worthless and full of retards now.
No. Its literally tech, and if it somehow does, it shouldn't, it HAS TO SFW
>>108706784i'm 35. if you can't distinguish between 6th gen and today (not just in graphics, either) then i don't know what to tell you.
>>108703072>started frogposting and wojakpostingWhere's the downside?
>>108700693I’m sticking to >>>/g/vcg/, what else do you want me to do>>108701748this
>>108700693new board called /slop/
>>108700693fag chatting AI definitely need its own containment board
>>108706080There's an architecture general in /vt/ but it might not be what you're expecting. Or maybe it is idk.
>>108706784while retro and old don't mean the same thing, things have changed a lot since the gamecube days. i think it'll be much harder to justify ever putting the xbox 360/ps3 into /vr/, at best maybe the wii/psp/ds could be added at some point
>>108707998360/ps2/gc/psp/ds should have their own /v2k/ board if anything