Are we really stuck with these shitty display servers? X works but it's an old mess and hacky, Wayland kind of works if you get the right implementation, but it's design is so rigid and it's maintainers make it worse. It's not like anyone of them is bad or good, they're like opposites in badness, but X is slightly saner. You still can use them, and they will work until you hit corner cases.And we get all the xuds and gaylanders defending their favorite like a religion. Can't freetards make a fucking display servers? Something solved decades ago. You need not invent anything new, just copy what others already did.I'm really tired of this shit, someone should revive plan9 sans the networking autism. Please Rob Pike we need this, our display servers are kinda insane.
>>108702773use lxqt so you can switch between xlibre and wayland depending on what you are doing
we already have arcan
>>108702773>wayland: making automation like autohotkey literally impossible>on fucking linuxit’s just baffling
>>108702776>xlibreDoes it work today? I stopped following the development some time ago. Last time I heard Artix made it the default.
xlibre is fine. >Something solved decades agowho do you say made a better display server? android? windows? kek
>>108702785has worked fine for me so far
>>108702782It's interesting, afaik it's more an engine you run on top of an OS than a display server. Arcane needs a revolution on how we implement the "desktop" it can not replace X or Wayland or be compatible with the current apps. It's too ideal for an imperfect world.
>>108702783But you have le HDR and le perfect frames with all the smoothy animations on your different refresh rate monitors.
Bazzite Linux, that is my answer.If your hardware is too shitty to run KDE, It should be thrown into the garbage. Get a framework laptop uncs.
>>108702823Frame stability is a rather nice thing to have.
>>108702785It works perfectly fine. It's just the trannies saying it's shit because the dev makes them angry.
>>108702880it hurts to have taken the covid vaccine and still getting infected afterwards. this is why we boycott xlibre on our discord chat.
>>108702871Sure, but it comes with all the nonsense. That is why I asked why we don't have something better, because clearly people are capable of making something good, but because of stupid ideological reasons they refuse. X is bad because it was the beta of every windowing system that followed it, but wayland is just refusing to be good. That what every notable wayland related project dev says. If wayland somehow stops being related to gnome/redhat we might get something decent, even if badly designed.
>>108702880>>108702905>trannies>covid vaccineLike you retards are bots programmed to just somehow find a way to inject this bullshit into any conversation.
>>108702940There is nothing wrong with being transgender. There is everything wrong with being vaccinated.Hope that helps.
>>108702773oh man the fucking screen tearingTHE big reason I switched to wayland even when it clearly wasn't ready. Shit was crashing twice a day but at least there was no screen tearing.
>>108702773The sad thing about X is the screen tearing is not even its fault. X actually has perfectly working vsync. The problem is gpus, the fuck heads who designed the gpus of the last 13 years completely messed up uncomposited X (and pre-vista windows too). Modern gpus have this profoundly retarded behavior, where the video scan out hardware aggressively prefetches lines from the frame buffer as soon as the frame starts. This totally breaks direct to front buffer rendering, these gpus only work properly with double buffering.You know what else really drives me utterly insane. No a single other human being, has acknowledge what I am saying. Not once, its like this topic is hard censored by the universe, I am the only one who has noticed, and am screaming into the void.
>>108702823You also have brightness flickering if you watch movie with HDR in fullscreen, at least on vlc
>>108702773Wayland is the RedHat/IBM fudgepacker display server. X is for real men and XLibre will likely be the future standard.>>108703400I think there are others that know this, but most are noobs and claim X sucks and screentears. I first fixed screentearing on X with picom but stopped using that and now just use the TearFree setting. I wonder if I enable freesync what the effect would be, don't think I ever have tried it.
>>108703671TearFree defeats one of the main reasons to use X, that being low latency.
>>108703741I never delve deep that deep into these topics. What to use instead for screen tearing? Freesync?
>>108703774There is no solution. Modern computing is utterly fucked.
>>108703774the default settings on picom, compton or any minimal X compositor are enough to prevent tearing, you even get transparency and cool effects.
>>108702773>open thread>24 replies>ctrl+f "vaccine">3 matchesevery time
>>108703823>>108703885I stopped using picom back in the day because of it being another dependency. TearFree was built in and did the same. I didn't care about window effects.I just enabled Freesync and it may be a placebo but it does seem snappier than TearFree. But the original screen tearing issue it back which is tearing in Firefox while scrolling. I checked different settings but same thing. I've read Firefox has fundamental vsync issues and they still don't have support for Vsync. I'll keep looking but the only solution to this may be triple buffer like TearFree and I just accept it. Don't feel like using anything Chromium and I think I prefer FreeSync over TearFree now.
>>108702773XLibre is the future. At this point half of X11's life has been "about to be replaced by Wayland". And while in percentage the numbers are about the same, in total numbers X11 has probably grown because of the new Linux and BSD users over the past 10 years.>>108703960Ok that makes 4 posts you made. Stop flooding.
>>108704689***they still don't have support for FreeSync
X is not a mess, the xserver compiles in a few seconds.
>>108702905retarded takevaccines don't prevent infectionsit just prepares the organism to fight it when it happensvaccines are literally controlled and less severe infection
>>108705006>vaccines are literally controlled and less severe infectionMost of them, yeah. The covid vaccine was the first mRNA vaccine though. It didn't contain any infections, just enough information for ribosomes to produce the correct antibodies
>>108704689Just gonna turn smooth scrolling off in Firefox and rawdog this fucker.
>>108705137experimental gene therapy is not a vaccine. Well not until they changed the definition of vaccine.
>>108703345Is it weird that I like screen tearing? It makes it look more rough and vintage
>>108705458Nah. To me to it shows maximum performance and no middle layer in the middle the cause latency messing with my timing
bring back the IP counter
>>108705006>vaccines are literally controlled and less severe infectionMaybe vaccines designed 80 years ago. Most vaccines either completely kill the pathogen, modify it, use a part of it, or a toxin from it. mRNA vaccines don't work like that at all, which is the type of vaccine you get called an anti-vaxxer for not wanting to take.I don't know why people like to talk about things so confidently when their knowledge about it is, at best, 20 years out of date and largely absorbed from things they heard when they were growing up.
>>108702773i'd love something like X but with all the nonsense and legacy cruft cut out while not being as rigid as wayland to the point things are implementation specific. >>108702785i'm running artix and although i use wayland xlibre works okay and is what X11 needed
