What's the point of this dogshit when you can run any of your apps? And when you can get an app that actually works you have to install it through the play store anyway and you have to grant it all the permissions you have on a regular android anyway Seriously other than having no default google or Samsung apps...what exactly is the point of this shit?
>>108707317Illusion of privacy
>>108707321just like Linux
hows banking, all moneys gone yet
Play store apps are sandboxed, the sandbox allows more spoofing of data than on standard android.Only probpem is that GrapheneOS puts no value on freedom and are completely reliant on Google for security. Whatever Google demands for playstore access and access to firmware security patches, they are forced to follow ... if Google ever tells them to stop the sandboxing or lose access, what are they going to do?
>>108707317You don't need the playstore for apps.
>>108707321makes no sense. >have to install google play to get any real apps>have to log into google account to use anything like youtube>have to install gboard because all other keyboards are complete shit>muh sandboxing>muh permissionsand?
>>108707409>the sandbox allows more spoofing of data than on standard android.wut?
>>108707317Privacy was killed during the Cold WarThe only way to have some privacy in current day society is by turning into a ghost (no birth certificate, no address, ID etc...)
>>108707417Contact Scopes
Stop spoonfeeding the retards
>>108707409>Whatever Google demands for playstore access and access to firmware security patches, they are forced to follow ... if Google ever tells them to stop the sandboxing or lose access, what are they going to do?GrapheneOS would continue to operate as an independent, privacy-focused AOSP derivative, maintaining its strict sandboxing and security standards regardless of Google’s demands for Play Store access, as its functionality and security model do not depend on Google’s proprietary services.The Motorola partnership removes the specific risk of Google withholding firmware, which is a significant benefit.
>>108707409>and are completely reliant on Google for security.GrapheneOS does not rely on Google for its operating system security patches. It builds directly from the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) and applies security patches from public sources, often faster than Google does for stock Android.
>>108707426Just live in a wood, bro. Works for Ted.He only got caught because he's willingly doxxing himself just to spread his manifesto
>>108707426The more people think of it like it's all or nothing, the worse it gets. Privacy is simpler than ever and it makes a difference. The more people implement it, the more things change. Live by example.
>>108707570>Google’s demands for Play Store access, as its functionality and security model do not depend on Google’s proprietary services.If playstore start demanding strong integrity just to run, they will have no store. Similarly, sideloading of store apks only exists at Google's benevolence.If Google wants it can cut them off of apps at any time, that is functionality.
>>108707317hey at least it lets u turn off network for individual apps.Just install ROM without gapps. Gaphrene is just stock rom with playstore disabled.
>>108707317>Graphene>Clearly a benzene
>>108707410These retards can jist use F-droid and I have no idea why they are bitching about a non-issue
GraphmemeOS is babies first custom ROM that requires very little knowledge other than how to use a web browser and how to gain dev options on their Pixel. The OS gives you the ability to turn a $899 Pixel 9 Pro into a dumb phone which is just silly.
>>108707958they just wanted to include the hexagon to underline their fealty
>>108708101>saar your android noob please fastboot flash pubgboost.zip on your Redmi Note 16 5G Lite Ultra (CN)
>>108708219Fuck you, texting from a Fold 7 son.
>>108708283that's even worse
Noobs who don't understand how graphene works. Google and certain carriers and makers can system level deep integration on their devices, which means they can track whatever they want regardless of what restrictions you put in place. With graphene, everything is locked down and sandboxed. So the restrictions you apply are actually working.
>>108707317And why does it only work on google phones?
>>108707364True but at least Linux uses next to no resources for gaming
>>108708178I want to stop seeing>>108708101yeah it should be harder and require fucking around with obscure bootloaders written by indians just trust me saar
>>108707317Most apps have a free software equivalent on f-droid or github.Normie's apps are accessible through aurora store.And if you really need a google services app you can use a second profile with google bs apps and login to your google account and app store etc. The profile contains them there.It's a pretty sweet setup altogether imo
>>108707317>>108708348Also you're literally more retarded than a ragebaiting YouTube normie. Congratulationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HEgMbWjSZE
>>108708314https://grapheneos.org/faq
Lying monkey.There will be information published about your attacks on the GrapheneOS project.Have a good day.
>>108707780and lose billions in sales
>>108708348i thought the creator hates fdroid
>>108707453I did, and he says you're full of shit.
>>108707411>have to log into google account to use anything like youtubejust access it via brave>have to install gboard because all other keyboards are complete shiti use simple keyboard from f-droid and it works on my machine
>>108707317requisites for l33t h4x0r larpers
You will need Google-certified Androids for the coming digital wallets/IDs anyway, might as well fall in line and stop being a smartphone vigilante.
>>108707317We're waiting for motorola to release grapheneos phone next year.
>>108707317>Brainlet moment
>Reduction of telemetry by 95%>Reductions of unnecessary garbage wasting CPU cycles in the background just because >No unauthorised synchronisation in the background>Less heat, longer battery, more SOT>Freedom to nook any system application or modify its permissions>Host-tier adblock >Root based firewall>No google services monitoring and measuring user activity >No google account and no cloud
>>108709417>>108709507Sorry OP, I thought you were talking about aftermarket Android ROMs in general. GrapheneOS is a locked down piece of shit no better than running mac os. GrapheneOS kills the freedom and flexibility of Vanilla AOSP roms.
>>108707317It's meant to walledgarden people from using mainline kernels like pmos, droidian, sfos, etc for the last decade
>>108709553What flexibility do you unironically need nowadays. Phones are boring af and you cant do anything cool with them
>>108707780If Google starts demanding strict GPlay safety policy checks, Google will lose a good chunk of the market. A metric fuckton of unrooted phones don't meet those super strict checks for Google Play. They cut out GOS, but also opening themselves up for a class-action lawsuit once people can't access their Candy Crush microtransactions or whatever they have paid for in GPlay.
>>108708512I think you overestimate the number of grapheneos users.
>>108709764As boring as they may be, swapping one lockdown turd for another still leaves one with the same frustration.
>>108709777Their libraries can start checking android versions and only do integrity checks on the latest version, grapheneos can spoof but there's lots of different ways for their code to check.They are extremely deoendent on google playing nice.
>>108709864Again, Android is so fractured that overzealous checks could lead to blackouts vendor-wide, so the juice is not worth the squeeze.
>>108709311I will get a dedicated spyware phone for spyware apps
>>108709777>If Google starts demanding strict GPlay safety policy checks,Gov'ts are demanding certified Android systems for the wallet/ID apps, nothing Google can do about that. *nudge*wink*
>>108707780>Similarly, sideloading of store apks only exists at Google's benevolence.Sideloading on GrapheneOS does not exist at Google's benevolence. Google's upcoming developer verification requirements are a Google Mobile Services (GMS) policy, not an AOSP (Android Open Source Project) mandate. The restrictions are for Google Play Services on stock Android. While apps enforcing Strong Device integrity checks via the Play Integrity API will block execution, GrapheneOS users are not without options. If an app requires Strong Device integrity, it will likely refuse to run on GrapheneOS because Google does not certify custom ROMs for this level of attestation. Many apps only require Basic integrity, which GrapheneOS can often satisfy or work around, allowing the app to function normally. The recent restrictions on sideloading (requiring developer verification for unverified apps) are part of Google Mobile Services (GMS), not the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). Since GrapheneOS is based on AOSP and does not use GMS by default, sideloading APKs remains fully functional on the OS level. GrapheneOS supports Sandboxed Google Play, which runs GMS as an unprivileged app. If Google restricts sideloading through GMS, it only affects the Play Store app itself, not the ability to install APKs via other means (like ADB, Aurora Store, or F-Droid). The primary limitation comes from developers choosing to enforce Play Integrity checks or only distribute via the Play Store, not from Google blocking sideloading on the OS itself. So while Strong Device checks will block some apps, GrapheneOS retains full sideloading capabilities independent of Google's GMS restrictions, and many apps will continue to work via Basic integrity or workarounds.
>>108708101Have respect for those of us who have to filter through your worthless posts. And you know nothing about GrapheneOS or ROMs in general.
>>108707321This, the schizos and retards eat this shit and laugh at everyone else when they dont realize they arent saving their privacy. As long as you can make someone dumber than you believe something you own them.
>>108707411No shit sherlock. Those apps require Google Play because that's how they were designed. You expect them to fork proprietary software and remove it? Even if they did YouTube is terrible to use if you're not logged in. That's why they sandbox it instead because Android users are cuckolds that have crazy amounts of data stolen from them constantly and by default every app gives itself infinite permissions so every app you install is independently grabbing as much user data from you as possible.
>>108707411I've been using grapheneos for 3 years and never downloaded the play store or logged into google. You can download all the glownigger apps with aurora store, but unless you truly need them it's much better if you don't. Need means something you rely on for your real life, not slop to satiate your broken dopamine receptors.
>>108707321>>108712243Claims of hardware backdoors in Google Pixel devices are not a realistic threat to GrapheneOS users. The hardware security features, like the Titan M2 chip, are designed to enhance security and are leveraged by GrapheneOS for verified boot and secure key storage. While theoretical concerns exist, any attempt to implement a backdoor would likely be discovered due to the open scrutiny of AOSP and Pixel firmware. GrapheneOS developers have stated that creating a backdoor would require breaking the hardware's chain of trust, which is technically impossible without invalidating verified boot for all users.
>>108712243>ESL is retardedMany such cases
>>108712281>no rebuttalretards leading retards, all these shits gonna look stupid when they announce “exploits” and all of you will go silent, always happens.
>>108709787Perhaps.>>108712266This. Absolutely this. Same for me
>>108707317It's an excuse to use the shittiest phone hardware on the market
>>108712266same here. I don't even have a Google account
>>108707317>What's the point of this dogshit when you can run any of your apps?You mean CAN'T. Fuck, do people not know how to use contractions anymore?
>>108714617You obviously suffer from Downs Syndrome. Of course X is going to know what I am doing ok X, retard. That's not the point. The point is X is restricted to only knowing what I do on X and not be able to collect data from other apps. You're one of those retards that think you're really smart, but are actually low IQ.
>>108708314Not for much longer™>>108708541And aurora but they both suck anyway and there are better options now>accrescent>obtainium
>>108714700X knows everything about you. The amount of information gathered by scrolling on X is significantly higher than with traditional web browsing on static pages. The fact that your X app is in a sandbox is negligible. Corporate apps like X, TikTok, YouTube, etc., collect more in-depth psychological data about you in a shorter amount of time than traditional web browsing on static websites ever could. X and TikTok know that you like little girls.
>>108714700The reliance on app sandboxing as a universal privacy solution is a misconception. Sandboxing prevents cross-app data leaks, but it is irrelevant against the behavioral analytics performed within corporate apps. Through continuous interaction tracking, platforms like X and TikTok can identify deeply private or sensitive inclinations in a fraction of the time required by traditional web browsing. In this context, the sandbox provides a false sense of security against server-side profiling and algorithmic inference.
>>108707317>play store and google account are mandatoryI never heard about Aurora Store and MicroG, and I will never search for them, BUT I will actively larp about things I don't know. Why I even stay on /g/ at this point, even /b/ is more high IQ than you niggers
>>108712273Fuck off. Absolutely insane garbage. Some faggy security chip only secured the phone from the user.
>>108712203Thank you chatgpt, but google can do whatever the fuck it wants to new versions of AOSP and play services.Google could for instance make a new app SDK which if it detects the latest Android versions, require the latest play services to be installed with strong integrity. Yeah, that might have some side effects, but they can certainly do it.GrapheneOS lives by Google benevolence, even being an official licensee through Motorola does not protect them.
>>108715056>Using different profiles for different functions >Running homelab to host private cloud and streaming services>All apps contained so no cross communications between them>Google play at the app level and contained not at the system level>Running Mullvad 24/7 switching servers >Running X through vanadium How am I lees private than someone using an iphone or a Samsung?>>108715038Oh no, X sees that I browse Linux and gaming news... And?
>>108712203The Playstore integrity chasers ruined the android scene by insisting on having (((Google and banking services))) enabled for, get this, 'convenience'. Then devs began to bake gappas right into the ROMs, essentially making it a standard. In a way I'm glad GrapheneOS exist because perhaps now these very same integrity-chasing retards could migrate to GrapheneOS and leave the remaining AOSP projects free of that garbage API.
>>108715233The reliance on app sandboxing as a universal privacy solution is a misconception. Sandboxing prevents cross-app data leaks, but it is irrelevant against the behavioral analytics performed within corporate apps. Through continuous interaction tracking, platforms like X and TikTok can identify deeply private or sensitive inclinations in a fraction of the time required by traditional web browsing. In this context, the sandbox provides a false sense of security against server-side profiling and algorithmic inference
>>108714617>they forget what the point of privacy is: minimizing behavioral data.Speak for yourself. I need privacy because I have an actual IRL stalker that I'm avoiding. I don't care about corpos knowing my browsing habits. I care if my name, photo, address, known associates, or current employer show up on Google searches.
>>108715885Is she hot? Why not fuck her a few times
>>108715940Because 1) Im in a faithful marriage and 2) I dont do incest
>>108715988Why'd you rape her in the butt, Sam?
>>108707317the point is to not have data harvesting built into the OS itself. individual apps can be isolated
