>>108707532
>you have to install Steam to install Proton to play vidya on Linux
Wine just works. And Proton-GE is open source and runs without Steam via umu
>you have to install Steam to use Steam Input
SDL just works
>you're SOL when it comes to Steam Input on both Windows and Linux because fuck you, install Steam and log in to map your shit
Again, SDL just works

>>108707532
type umu launcher into your favorite search engine
I don't know whether it does steam input, probably not

>>108707532
Can you like relax. Look at all the games available for playing. There is free ones too.

How can you be upset with that?

>>108707532
>Want to use proprietary software
>Why are they forcing me to log in?
Retard

>>108707535
>Proton-GE
It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it. Again, the typical anti-user bullshit of the Linux world.

>umu
Which absolutely no one talks about so how the fuck would you expect people to know it's the easiest way to set up gaming on Linux.

>SDL
Doesn't give you the same amount of input programmability as Steam Input. You'll need Steam Input to configure your touchpads and gyros for games individually nonetheless as no game will support these natively, even if your Linux driver adds rudimentary support for it.

>>108707554
>don't have to log into an MS account to use Windows 11 (non-Home)
>don't have to log into Nvidia App to use Shadowplay
>don't have to log into Google Chrome to browse the web
Kinda crazy how you could just... not force people to register for your proprietary software? Quite a radical concept for Valve it seems, especially with how Nvidia used to do so, and now they don't. And they're like #1 anti-consumer company and figured out that you don't actually need logging in to use a piece of software that utilizes your hardware offline. Shocking.

>>108707564
>don't have to log into an MS account to use Windows 11 (non-Home)
Uhm, yes you do. And no, the bullshit workaround doesn't count, because a normal user wouldn't know about that
>don't have to log into Google Chrome to browse the web
That's because they track the shit out of you without needing you to sign in
>don't have to log into Nvidia App to use Shadowplay
That's because they track the shit out of you without needing you to sign in

>>108707564
you see umu in the logs when you use proton outside of steam with another gui game launcher like faugus, lutris, heroic etc

>>108707602
>because a normal user wouldn't know about that
But it's okay if a fix for a Linux issue is some obscure sequence of commands you'd never think of if not for guides online, and the only people who would be able to come up with it themselves are ex-Bell Labs employees. Rules for me, not for thee™.

Just say that Windows is shit and Linux is superior just because it's Linux. Your semantics to try and look logical are always retarded.

>>108707609
>you see umu in the logs
Again, stop trying to make your semantics look logical, just default to the lowest brow insults at that point. Not only would I not have a reason to look into those logs, I'd never know those three letters reference a launcher. "umu" looks like some shorthand for an internal function.

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>>108707532
>Cries about a proprietary platform forcing you to login to said platform
>Except all the games xhe is playing are also proprietary botnet
>Posting on a proprietary botnet website
Xister...

>>108707615
obviously you open the logs to see what is going on because when you first use umu it downloads like 5GB of crap on your system and it takes a while

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>>108707624
First you said that I can find out about umu in logs of Lutris/Bottles, which I never did because Lutris/Bottles just worked for me.
Now you're saying that I'd be looking into umu logs if I installed it but that's not what you were talking about four minutes ago.

Yes, you're acting like an obtuse retard on purpose, very funny.

>>108707615
Linux is way better, yes. All commands support either 'man' or --help, so you don't need to go online to know exactly what every command does. The same definitely cannot be said for Windows.

>>108707532
Don't care I still keep using Steam and buying Valve products
>but
Cope seethe dilate

>>108707633
when you choose proton in your game launcher
it uses system wine by default

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>>108707564
>It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it
picrel
this is the first result for how to install GE Proton, on DDG at least
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/guides/view/how-to-install-ge-proton-on-steam-deck-steamos-linux/
if someone managed to install Linux then they should have no issue installing ProtonUpQt, an easy GUI installer
The Github page does seem confusing so I'll give you that.

>>108707564
>It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it
You install it from your repo, not from github lol.

>>108707564
>>don't have to log into an MS account to use Windows 11 (non-Home)
>>don't have to log into Nvidia App to use Shadowplay
Both of these are false.

>>108707664
I haven't installed nvidia spyware on my system but windows 11 works fine without an account

valve has the best PR team and marketing team ever

one of the worst companies to have ever influenced gaming, ever.
proton is the only thing theyve done thats not outright evil or dogshit.

>>108707532
Because valvedrones are mentally ill and don't represent the broader populace.

shalom, how is that credit card campaign going?

>>108707532
what is Lutris. other than that, yeah, fuck Valve.

>>108707564
>how the fuck would you expect people to know it's the easiest way to set up gaming on Linux.
It's Linux, it's up to you to figure the details out. Why are you assuming someone should hold your hand and spoon feed you?
That's what proprietary systems are for.

Git gud and RTFM

>>108707914
>one of the worst companies to have ever influenced gaming, ever.
How young are you? Valve pretty much saved PC gaming.

>>108708125
You're a retard. Linux has just been "click next" since 2022.

>>108708133
Whenever Linux has just been click next since 2022 or not, doesn't change the fact that you are supposed to figure it out yourself instead of having prepared streamlined experience. That's what proprietary systems are for.

>>108707532
Stop playing games and grow up
Problem solved

>>108708140
Why is an open source system ontologically incompatible with just working out of the box? There is a series of tinkering you seem to think is necessary; why can't an open source system have said tinkering pre-applied?
>>108708158
Oh yeah, because shitposting on 4chan is a productive adult pastime.

>>108708131
i have a six digit steam account. suck my balls retarded zoomer.

yeah thanks for saving video gaming by turning everything into a casino for brown children. nice. well done valve. now multiplayer games have been ruined for like 10 years. including dota and cs which were a couple of my favorite games ever.

thank you so much for saving pc gaming le gaben

>>108707564
Why you lie?
Plus I just want to say that steam/proton is not an essential software, there are layers of proprietary software here.
It's very scummy for an OS/hardware to force you to log in, on the other hand nobody is forcing you to play games or even use steam as it's a non essential software.

>>108707564
>>108708256
One more thing
You booted your Ubuntu machine and willingly logged on steam and bought a game on their store, why you bitch about having to log in to play the game?
Make up you mind.

>>108708170
>Why is an open source system ontologically incompatible with just working out of the box?
THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM “AS IS” WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.

>>108708282
It's just schizos mad Valve is actually a private company not publicly traded.

>>108707914
>>108708131
Proton is only used for Windows applications and heavy reliance on Windows. The so called future where everyone leaves Windows means Proton will be useless. Mac will be the top choice while Linux becomes worse gaming due to the fact that no developer over the years bothered to create easier solutions for Linux development.

This is the awful reality that you people support. Nothing about proton is considered good for Linux.

This is the most embarrassing thread I've seen in a while. I have never installed Steam on Linux and when I was an absolute newfag it took me zero effort to just install a game launcher and have it do everything for me.

>>108707646
>>108707659
>check my distro's of choice package manager
>no proton
>see if it can be installed manually
>go to proton-ge repo
>no info on how to install it
>not even an option to download the packages
>just a code repo with no pointers on how to use it
I don't give a shit that there's a blog post pointing to a GUI program to install it for me. GloriousFagroll's repo is the first thing I see and he should make the readme clear that to use his fork on a distro you have to use one of the available GUI installers.

But I know, it's my own fault and my skill issue. Then you'll cry about having a bad reputation the next day as if you haven't worked hard to gain it.

>>108707664
>nonono you don't understand the article headlines I've read are 100% true and Windows 11 is literally always online
I've set up a local account on a brand new ThinkPad with Windows 11 Pro on it. No MS Account needed, no Bitlocker enabled, no OneCloud enabled.
Funny how people who have the most to say about how bad Win11 is are always people who never used it.

>>108708125
Stop shilling Linux then if it's not meant for Windows users. Oh wait, you're all literally schizophrenic so you have split personalities. Fun.

>>108708297
Crazy how Blender has the exact same license and not only does it just work, it's actually usable by a human being.

Again, funny to see Linuxfags repeating the decades old pattern
>waaah windows must die linux master race
>waaah kill yourself ur 2 stoopid 2 use loonix
>waaah why is no one using leenoox
You genuinely have a mind of a toddler, incapable of learning from your past mistakes. Pathetic.

>>108708140
>Whenever Linux has just been click next since 2022 or not, doesn't change the fact that you are supposed to figure it out yourself instead of having prepared streamlined experience. That's what proprietary systems are for.
If I want to play a DOS game or early D3D game on Windows, the experience is anything but streamlined.

>>108708170
>shitposting
I'm just an adult giving you good advice kid, you don't need to have a tantrum.

>>108708442
I never had problem playing old games on windows. Give us an example of one game that won't work no matter what you do.

>>108707564
>>don't have to log into an MS account to use Windows 11 (non-Home)
But that's wrong, you retard.jpg

To the point where people have had to bend over backwards to DO that.

>>108708379
>I've set up a local account on a brand new ThinkPad with Windows 11 Pro on it
By using a CLI, kek
>But I know, it's my own fault and my skill issue
Just use Wine. Proton is just a fork of Wine that eventually gets all its changes merged upstream.

>>108708477
>Give us an example of one game that won't work no matter what you do.
Any game that has a 16 bit installer. A lot of them have been patched by GOG but you have to buy them again. DOS games require DOSBox just like on Linux.

>>108707532
Pirating solve this

>>108707532
let me guess, now (((valve))) also requires a non-voip phone number when making a new account
no thanks, I'll stay a pirate

>>108707532
yeah but uhhhhh my billionaire is better because he's allowed me to maintain my lifestyle as a basement dwelling neet gamer!

>>108707532
get over it Tim Sweeney.

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steam saved video game computing on personal computers.

>>108707532
>>you have to install Steam to install Proton to play vidya on Linux
nope, you can do it without Steam
>>you have to install Steam to use Steam Input
actually sc-controller exists
>>Steam requires an account to use
ofc
>>even if you just want to configure Steam Input
not needed
>>none of which require a Steam account
yeah if you use sc-controller you don't need one
>>none of which require an entire social media
yes?
>>none of which require another Chromium instance running
yes.
>>if you want to install Proton without Steam you're back in the undocumented shithole of the Linux world
ok you are slightly aware yet still obviously a jeetmongrel
>>the same shithole that Valve was supposed to rid end users of, but at the cost of being tethered to their service it seems
as said, not needed
>>you're SOL when it comes to Steam Input on both Windows and Linux because fuck you, install Steam and log in to map your shit
nah Linux is fine

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linux gamers trying to do anything without valve or steam

>>108709154
>jeet tying to not eat his own feces

>>108708842
The Steam Controller is competing with the DualSense Edge and Xbox Elite, which are both $200.

>>108707532
normal sane functioning adults really do not care about any of that
seek help
you are seething at ghosts

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>>108707564
>It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it.
holy shit the meme is actually real kekaroo
stick to Windows, bud

>>108709294
If that was true they would have a cheaper variant available competing with the standard ones

>>108707532
>you have to install Steam to install Proton to play vidya on Linux
Stopped reading there, you're a fucking retard

>>108707532
now ask yourself why you need a permanent address in order to get a job

>>108709482
https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom#installation
This is the readme that's the first result when searching for "proton ge". The manual installation assumes you have Steam installed. None of the instructions tell you what to do to install it standalone. I want to install it standalone. I don't want to use Flatpaks or Snaps as they're niggerlicious. Manually extracting shit and symlinking, sure, would love to if that's something that was documented here. Nothing here points me to umu, or Heroic, or ProtonUp or anything usable by a human being.

If that's all you'd have to go for you'd also fail to install shit retard. But do keep blaming me for Linux developers being allergic to writing human readable documentations.

>>108707532
If you hate him I really love him
Why do *you* hate him so much?

>>108709740
His launcher is bloated webshit that requires an account and social media connectivity for shit that doesn't need it and for all the dicksucking he gets he won't do the pro-consumer thing of letting me opt out.

>>108707532
the first two are wrong

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>>108707532
>steam sucks wah wah
just
fucking
use
gog
retard

>>108709692
You're just mentally retarded. Don't use Linux if you don't have the intelligence to learn.

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>>108707532
>linux
>undocumented

Holy shit just use lutris if you're too braindead to actually use git and the cli. It's more or less stupid-proof as long as you provide the correct windows dependencies for your wine instance. There's also scripts for a lot of games that just werk.

Also, more importantly, who the fuck cares if you need to install Steam? For now it's the best we have until GOG gets access to more titles, and in a lot of cases for delisted games GOG wins outright. I can play shit from 2010 that's riddled with Games For Windows Live spaceaids with literally no issue.

>>108707532
>you have to install Steam to use Steam Input
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Steam_Controller#Kernel
It's enabled as module by default from what I can see, most if not all distros should have this enabled

>if you want to install Proton without Steam you're back in the undocumented shithole of the Linux world
lutris or heroic

>>108708170
>why can't an open source system have said tinkering pre-applied?
It can. There are distributions like that already. It's not tinkering that is required, it's research. You just have to search these preconfigured setups first.
>why do I need to do research
Because Linux is fundamentally about choices. And choices fundamentally require you to do some research before choosing an option.
This is not true for proprietary systems like Windows or Apple because they only provide you one, streamlined experience. By constraining your options they free users from having to any research. You just pay and you get whatever they serve you, no thinking required.

>>108708173
>yeah thanks for saving video gaming by turning everything into a casino for brown children. nice. well done valve. now multiplayer games have been ruined for like 10 years. including dota and cs which were a couple of my favorite games ever.
There is literally nothing wrong with Valve style crates. They are purely cosmetic and can be traded for money to spent on real games. Trading hats in TF2 and buying games with money earned was a very educational experience for me and many other gamers.
Modern AAA loot crate bullshit have basically nothing in common with Valve take and are strictly predatory.

>>108708379
>Stop shilling
I literally just answered anon's question.

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>>108707532
heroic solves all of this
you can use legendary if u wanna be muh cli leet hax0r but if ur pc cant handle 300mb of ram in a world where zswap + zstd + nvme m2 ssds exist just end it lil buddy

>>108709692
Just go back to windows bro. You got filtered.

>>108709898
They’ve reached the point where getting filtered is almost better than dealing with it.
FAFO.

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>>108707532
Based and truthpilled.

>>108707532
Just use proton ge?

>>108707532
>did more for Linux popularity and usability than 30 years of leet elitists sweatlords
nuff said

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>>108707532

the lincuck will proudly claim (lie) >she doesn't need steam for anything all while doing everything through and with steam

>>108709294
If only Steam Controller wasn’t a cheap plastic toy and didn’t require Steam Client to operate. The Xbox and PS5 were built for gaming, the very reason why you buy it.

>>108709898
>We want Windows gone
>Go back to Windows
What do you people want? You either support Linux so no one returns to Windows or allow Microsoft to keep customers. MAKE IT MAKE SENCE!

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>>108710633
now this is certainly a take of all time

>>108709863
theyre being sued by the ny attorney general because lootboxes are gambling for children. its a fuckin slot machine, dumbass.
it doesnt teach anyone anything, its just gambling.

in any case cs2 is completely ruined because there are too many cheaters. sbmm (player engagement optimization) ruins these games too unless you dont value your time. cs2 has some of the shittiest netcode ever as well. they exist only for gambling.

they had to be forced to stop enabling third party gambling websites too lmao

you are a dumb cocksucker

>You have to install steam to install proton
No you don't. Its open source. You just need to install steam if you want the process to be easy because none of the distros package it. If you think this is an issue you should be bitching at the package maintainers not steam. They gave you a free upgrade to wine that is open source.
>You have to use steam to use steam input
I don't remember the part where Gabe said he would open source everything his company does?
>Steam requires an account to use
Its an online market place that has cash transactions. Name a single online market place that doesn't have accounts?
>None of which requires steam to use
Bitch to the package maintainers. Valve provided a free way to access the software it's not their job to go to every package maintainer so you can install it easily.
>Documentation is shit
Yeah that's pretty much all documentation now. I would suggest seeing if gentoo documented how to do.
>The same shit valve was suppose to rid users of
They just made it super easy to run games on Linux. They did a ton of free work and then open sourced it. That's why they have community good will. You are complaining that they didn't do more free unpaid labor. You are being entitled.
>Why do Linux users like him again
Cause he did a ton of work for Linux graphics, usability and compatibility with gaming. He release most of that work for free and it was open source. It was a lot of work that wasn't getting done and would have taken decades without a strong corporate push.

>>108710837
Everything you said is propaganda, Proton is locked into Steam as is Steam Controller. Valve blocks Linux developers from updating their Operating Systems for Proton to work, this is why certain Linux distributors work. Proton is written for exclusively for Steam, people are trying to emulate that stupid requirement because you cultist don’t support anything else or fight against Valve.

The real problem is you and the cult members that will die for Valve.

>>108710881
>The real problem is you and the cult members that will die for Valve.
No the real problem is that he and his cult members would PAY to die for Valve.

>you have to install Steam to install Proton to play vidya on Linux
Nah https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/wine-valve
>you have to install Steam to use Steam Input
"Steam input" is already built into X
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xf86-input-joystick-git

>why do Linuxfags worship this fat cunt this much
Valve makes improvements to existing technologies, such as proton improvements that aren't Steam and gaming specific get backported to wine. They're also the only people trying to unfuck Wayland.

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>valveniggers unironically cheering for linux getting locked into proprieshit DRM cancer that won't work without turning linux into a SaaS botnet that needs 24/7 connecttion to the DRM cancer store to function

>>108710935
Package proton as you want.
Make an app for reconfiguring the Steam controller.
You are free to do this, nothing is stopping you.

If you're still upset then nothing can help you.

>>108710668
I want retards like you to stay in your little shitbox of an OS because you can't be trusted to figure anything else out. It's not that complicated, I don't want what I'm using to be fucked up by people who need to be babied because that's how we got where we are today.

I want Linux to be better, and to be better your ass needs to stay in the safe baby windows zone that does everything you want it to do.

>>108711003
>I want Linux to be better
Better how tho?

>Stops
What magic power do you think valve has over Linux or the distro maintainers?

>>108711040
It's just people being bitter that Valve has made things easier for their customers and not the people who want nothing more than Gabe to drown or something.

>>108711003
Windows isn't shit because it's written for retards; it's shit because it's written BY retards. There is nothing on paper preventing a well-optimised system from just werking.

>>108710837
>If you think this is an issue you should be bitching at the package maintainers not steam.
Jewish pilpul

>>108711191
>Creates a huge upgrade to a compatibility layer
>Does a ton of unpaid labor
>releases it free and open source
>Looks at Linux distro eco system
>Unorganized with a billion different packaging systems
>Decides to just ship it on your own platform
>Decides to leave it to the package maintainers who traditionally took useful repositories and packaged them for their users.
>None of the package maintainers do this old role
>Retard anon bitches at guy who did all the free work instead of the people who's job it is to package software

>>108711191
>responsibility is pilpul

>>108711071
>People who are annoyed at Gabe
Valve didn't even limit it to their customers, they just didn't package it. Which isn't even unreasonable. The package maintainers were the ones who traditionally did that. I don't get how all these people are complaining about free labor.

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>>108707532
nothing you typed is an issue for me, why is it an issue for you?

>products sold by a drm company require a drm
Are you retards even surprised?

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>>108707532
Stop playing bing bing wahoos.

>>108710733
>it doesnt teach anyone anything, its just gambling.
Why did you completely ignored my counter argument and just repeated yourself?

>>108707564
i think steam input uses sdl for the gamepads as a backend anyway, you might be right that the rebinding is not as immediate as steam-input but doing a ld_preload shim in this slop day and age is a walk in the park

>>108707553
The only thing I'm upset about is the very clear sword of damocles that is Gaben's lifespan.

>>108707532
posting in a valveschizo thread.

>>108707532
>valve built software for linux to improve quality of life for their customers
>valve even contributes to wine
>i am not a customer, and it is all valve's fault! gibs me dat, gaben!

>>108707532
You may be retarded but your point about steam input being locked to steam in particular is true
The steam deck relies heavily on steam input for its controls to function, making a full steamless setup on a steam deck near impossible unless you count plugging in a mouse and keyboard to your portable device. It's not something it was explicitly advertized as but the fact they left everything unlocked/unlockable for the user kind of implies it should function standalone from any software besides drivers. I can install gentoo on a steam deck but I still need the entire steam app just to map buttons to keys.
It would be nice if steam input could be separated from steam itself, proprietary or not. Obviously they don't want to encourage people to play games outside of the steam ecosystem but when you make a general purpose computer like the steam deck and soon to come steam machine you kind of lose that excuse, especially when the steam deck in particular is effectively useless without it

>>108711293
>purely cosmetic
items that have money value, which cost money to roll the dice for
>traded
irrelevant
>for games
irrelevant
>strictly predatory
lootboxes are barely different than slot machines. they had the animations quite similar iirc too. its a game for children where gameplay is valued dead last. targeting children for gambling is predatory. hence the AG lawsuit :)

>>108710668
I want FREEDOM and FREEDOM isn't exchanging one corporate suckling teat for another as the valvedrone would have you believe

>>108707532
>you have to install Steam to install Proton to play vidya on Linux
Not on Gentoo.

>>108707532
>Remind me again, why do Linuxfags worship this fat cunt this much?
It's not Linux users, it's Windows refugees. Anyone who is for free software would by default be against the DRM hell that Steam is, but these so-called "Linux fanboys" worship Valve and are eager to install some proprietary slop on their free and open source operating system.
This is also evidenced by the rise of ultra-easy distributions for retarded "power users" who can only click buttons on a GUI.
It's pretty obvious the direction that Linux is headed, too. It will become in the near future what Windows 11 already is. All of the crap those gaymers were "running away from", all of that will pollute Linux too.

>>108712149
>All of the crap those gaymers were "running away from", all of that will pollute Linux too.
And that's a good thing!

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>>108707564
>It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it. Again, the typical anti-user bullshit of the Linux world.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>108707532
We want things to be not easy for new users, because we don't need anymore /v/tards.

>>108707646
How is your image already such low quality? It's still in the archive >>108697108. As the quality of the image declined so has our society, and it's all your fault.

>>108710910
Not everyone uses Arch BTW, Mac can’t support Proton which is close to Linux. This just proves my point of Valve deliberately picking certain Operating System instead of actually allowing developers to build custom applications.

>>108707532
Steam Input requires a Steam account. The whole point of it is that users create and share input mappings in the Steam social network.

>>108710977
>>108711003
What part of Valve not allowing developers to alter Proton to not allow Steam to even be required did you not understand. This means no Steam download, no signup, no email, no sever side ping, no website, no Chrome extension and no Github Microsoft spyware.

Fake Linux users are why you aren’t playing DRM games.

>>108712502
>What part of Valve not allowing developers to alter Proton to not allow Steam
Explain lutris or bottles then.
Both allow the use of Proton on any game without Steam.

>>108712463
I'm sorry has Apple tried making a handheld? Nothing's stopping itoddlers from porting proton.
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

inb5 "not everyone is a developer BTW"

I told ChatGPT to make a way for me to double click a .exe and it runs with proton, without Steam ever running. I simply just ran two copy pasted things in my terminal and it just werked.

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>>108709098
>this is what valvenigger DRMcucks actually believe

>>108712027
>items that have money value, which cost money to roll the dice for
Yup. Still purely cosmetic.

>>traded
>irrelevant
>>for games
>irrelevant
It is relevant. You claimed:
>it doesnt teach anyone anything
But there is plenty of people who learned trading principles, speculation, etc from trading hats and stuff in steam market

>>108712683
>>108712976
>>108713043

>ThEy UsE it WiThOUt StEaM
> We used to be able to use Proton directly in Lutris but with some changes made to Proton, this is no longer possible. Proton is made specifically for Steam and will work for Steam games.
>it is essential to give it permissions to access the Steam path, otherwise the integration will not be activated.
Shut up cultist, they clearly said No you need Steam to make Proton work.

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>>108713180
https://ports.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-proton&stype=all&sektion=all
Even FreeBSD has proton. Skill issue?
Use normal WINE if you can't figure it out. WINE 11 has all the improvements of proton backported, you only need proton if you're using the steam ecosystem.

>>108707532
That's funny anon, I play plenty of games through Heroic Launcher without steam being installed at all. World of Warcraft, Diablo II, III and IV, GTA V, Hogwarts Legacy, Red Dead Redemption 2, Borderlands 1-3, Star Trek Online, Fallout 1, 2, 3 and NV, Cyberpunk 2077, Star Wars Squadrons, Ghostrunner 1 & 2, and Far Cry 5. None of them use Steam Input, in fact Steam Input actually causes my Dual Sense 4 controller to NOT work properly and is one of the reasons I deleted steam in the cost place. Lutris and Heroic Launcher are great alternatives to steam (the latter lets you install and run games in your GoG and Epic Games libraries) ... Sounds like a skill issue to me anon.

>>108713180
Literally bullshit as I just finished playing 4 hours of WoW, launched via Lutris, using Proton-GE' and steam is not installed on my machine at all. So how about you stop being dumb?

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>>108713180
>complains about valve
>uses a windows os.

>>108713215
>Requires over 100 things, the 100 things also require 20 other things to work.
This is not an answer, that’s a theory with unproven evidence. Just like science paper on Black holes, does it exist on the central of our galaxy? Yes, will it get bigger? Maybe? Stupid fake Linux user, why do you think this was a real product.

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>>108713268
Why lie, just buy this and stop being a crybaby. Nothing beats this controller.

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>>108713317
>nothing beats this controller
nothin personnel.....kid.
>>108709098
they'll write about gaben's contributions to humanity in history books

>>108713412
certainly, there will be records of the biggest fattest DRM kike in history

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>>108707532
you're just mad you can't afford a steam account.
pay the price or fuck off!

>>108707532
Yeah fuck valve for putting money and effort on making shit work on linux. It should have been four fucking nerds or red hat instead!

>>108714299
>force "you vill own nothing" model on customers
>introduce de-facto monopoly
>rob every gamedev in the world of 30% income
>but
>send two patches to a FOSS project
>"gabe is our guy!"

>>108714383
You're welcome to publish your indie dogshit somewhere else

>>108707532
Valve is one of the best companies ever for me and Gabe is winning on all fronts.

As he should.

>>108709863
>Because Linux is fundamentally about choices
For 99% of people, Linux is about escaping the bloat and telemetry of Windows. Most people don't care about compiling the kernel themselves or ricing out a tiling window manager; they want a drop-in replacement for their Windows setup.

>>108710633
>require Steam Client to operate
It doesn't on Linux. Windowsbabies just seething that they're finally on the receiving end of vendor lock-in.

All I see is people hyperventilating.
Take this guy for example >>108709692
Only human incompetence and constant moaning and seething. Valve will go on but no one will unrape you.

This thread is literally just rothschild agenda hateboner shillshit, fuck off faggot and stop trying to ruin humanity.

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I can play Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst without using steam, I just use wine and dxvk. I'm not giving some kike company my information, piracy and emulation are completely free and there are more games you can play than there is time in the day. PSO is free and will give you that endless multiplayer fix

>>108707532
>steam as a social media platform
it has some minor social features but not enough to put it in the ballparks of twitter/reddit/youtube/twitch no matter how often the ADL claims its a nazi platform because of the rediculous technicality that pepe the frog is a hatesymbol
nice try ADL but you gave away your powerlevel calling it social media

>>108710881
>Proton is locked into Steam as is Steam Controller
Neither is true, I use proton primarily outside of steam. The steam controller works with SDL, also completely outside of steam.

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>>108714469
Except in court where they lose because Valve is guilty of criminal wrongdoing.

>>108714571
>>108714652
>Doesn't own Steam Controller
>Claims false information is real
We can clearly see there is no source code for Steam Controller. There are no projects that support Steam Controller. There is not a single website claiming Steam Controller works in Linux (Linuxgaming included). Do you know why? Because it doesn’t exist.

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>>108714927
Faggot

>>108710881
If Proton is locked to Steam, why does Lutris pick Proton-GE as the default runner recently?
Lutris is meant to run games outside Steam with zero dependency to Steam binary.

>>108714958
Believe in some blogger who doesn’t own a Steam Deck and making shit up. Or believe in YouTubers who had tried it, show it to us, dismantle it and confirm $100 price tag.

Anon, you gotta stop believing in fake news.

>>108714989
Post fastfeth or shut the fuck up, you don't get to regurgitate your irrelevant youtuber opinion

>>108713268
>>108714977
The Developer says NO YOU CAN’T. Not my words, their words: https://github.com/lutris/lutris/discussions/4227

You people were lied, you believed in Reddit conspiracy theories.

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>>108715009

$ pacman -Qs proton
local/proton-ge-custom-bin 1:GE_Proton10_29-2
    A fancy custom distribution of Valves Proton with various patches
local/umu-launcher 1.3.0-2
    The Unified Launcher for Windows Games on Linux, to run Proton with fixes outside of Steam
local/vkd3d-proton-mingw 2.14.1-4
    Fork of VKD3D. Development branches for Protons Direct3D 12 implementation

Werks on my machine

>>108715009
>The esl steam seether got BTFO on /v/
>Thinks he can stand a fucking chance on /g/
Reminder that this moron supports age verification

>>108714998
fastfeth doesn’t mean anything, only losers like you believe fastfeth is worth something. “Let me show you my spec bro”, just pathetic.

>>108707564
>It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it. Again, the typical anti-user bullshit of the Linux world.
because you should know, its just a wine binary with a different name

>>108708368
>to just install a game launcher and have it do everything for me.
you dont even need one of those either installing with wine manually is not difficult for 99% of things

>>108709482
people even act like this in /lmg/ i shared some software and there were multiple seething about no exe kek

>>108715035
>fastfeth
you didn't even correct me
because you have absolutely no clue about any of this, you're just seething

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/736967180/#q736974070
this isn't the first time this moron has tried this
this esl waste of space understands nothing about linux and tries to lecture you about i

>>108715009
Which part of recently do you not understand?

>>108714998
>>108715035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukznXQ3MgN0

>>108714568
>For 99% of people
Newfag tourists are not 99% of Linux users.

>>108713103
valve is going to learn a lesson why monetizing gambling and targeting children isnt a good business practice
looks like everyone will learn something with this gambling system

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>>108715404
>valve is going to learn a lesson why monetizing gambling and targeting children isnt a good business practice
It was pretty good for them and for their users. You seen to be the one having a problem here.

Are you one of rothschilds paid shills? You must be very upset that valve won with your guys in the court over your patent trolling. So much so that we have daily anti valve threads since then.
Very interesting coincidence.

>>108715478
what are you talking about dipshit?

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2026/attorney-general-james-sues-game-developer-promoting-illegal-gambling-through

they are about to get assraped. this is the same team that just owned ticketmaster.

making almost all of your money on children gambling is a very jewish thing to do btw.

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>>108715494
>what are you talking about dipshit?
Obviously I am talking about the time Valve won with Rothschild's. The Jews were patent trolling in order to extrort money from random companies. Valve didn't like that and sued Rothschild's and won lmao. And very soon after that, NY just randomly happened to sue Valve over crates.

Pure Coincidence.

Of course this is followed by online shilling against Valve that keeps happening to this day.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/washington/wawdce/2:2023cv01016/323951/56/

REMEMBER EVERYONE. VALVE BTFO'D JEWS IN COURT OVER THEIR JEWISH PRACTICES AND NOW JEWS ARE ON 100% REVENGE MODE.
IGNORE EVERY ROTHSCHILD SHILL POST.

>>108715534
yeah i dont care

you care about "anti valve shilling" (lmao) how about their carefully curated image that has managed to convince all manner of retards to worship them? with their marketing budget in the hundreds of millions of dollars

>>108715063
>>108715069
>>108715082
I do not want to be part of any fastfeth fetish you believe it holds. Also don’t call out people to use fastfeth when you didn’t either. Also, also, fastfeth can be faked, just a dumb terminal spec. Very funny that you faker needs a software instead of just asking the computer.

>>108715553
>i dont care
Of course you don't because you are paid by them to say that lmao

>>108715580
i am lord ebenezer rothschild here paid to post and to let everyone know that valve makes literally all of their money off of gambling, most of which involves children.

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Even if you never use steam and only pirate or play nothing but TuxRacer the improvements to Linux graphics drivers, driving VRR/HDR support in DEs and general WINE improvements are a good thing.

>>108715591
>think about poor zoomers
>on 4chan
They are not sending their best lmao

>>108707619
>>108707615
The valve ai/shills are here, and they are getting PAID. Why dont you go buy an ad instead?
Cs2 is the worst game of all time, crawling with bots, hackers, and worst of all, r*ssians. If you like getting sniped through walls, play cs2, cancerous smelly f2p lootcrate shit. A game has never been so bad that it ruined my day, but cs2 ruined my day.

>shill went on a break and came back with a new strategy

>>108709692
>https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom#installation
>Heroic has also enabled umu by default when using GE-Proton.
>Lutris has integrated umu as the default backend used when GE-Proton (Latest) is selected as a Wine runner either globally or for any specific game.
You don't need to install it directly, you can just use Lutris or Heroic.

>>108713103
Yes, i have learned that it becomes a cancerous cess pool, of r*ssians, hackers and bots, and often r*ssian bots that are hacking! What a complete disgusting waste if time, have you heard about stream-farming? Same principle, smallpox

nahhh i do like steam tho

>>108715611
It took the FOSStards 2 years to achieve working HDR after Valve got it done in gamescope and got it working on the deck, it's nuts. They're expecting me to believe that if gaben's cock didn't get deep inside they would have been where they are right now just "less proprietary".

>>108707532
i dont use or like steam and gabe
just install wine

so if you don't use steam where do you even get games? it's the only way to get games without pirating
i do get free games sometimes, I don't look down on pirates

>>108715991
Can heroic export games?
It's something I've wanted on Lutris for ages- the ability to save/export a wine prefix and the lutris config as a package that could be reimported later and/or shared.

>>108715009
Well here's how I know you're retarded. That post is FOUR YEARS OLD. ProtonGE works just fine in Lutris right now. Way to show how stupid you are. UMU allows using Proton with Lutris you absolute pylon.

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>>108715009
wut?

>>108713317
Nigger what? Playing WoW with a controller (except maybe that one) is retarded. I was specifically commenting on how the 4-year-old "lutris can't use proton" bullshit isn't true anymore since umu, and you can literally use it as a runner in Lutris right now without steam being installed

>>108716028
What if i told you, Linux didn’t have proprietary software until you fakers started supporting it. Gaming in Linux will end in the same result with no corporate oversight.

>>108716058
If you exclusively play games on Steam, you’re not a gamer.

>>108716096
>>108716151
Yet you can’t prove Proton can run without Steam when Github readme says “Steam is required”. Are you saying the developers are lying to you, how far will you willing to go to defend your corporate overlords.

>>108707564
>It's GitHub page gives you zero info on how to install it
You aren't supposed to just up and say that you're a retard

>>108716226
we told you how to use proton without steam yesterday