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what's the appeal of gentoo?
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>>108707725
I don’t know, script kiddies like it.
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>>108707725
Shitty secondhand laptop with flecks of shit on it touting this like it's some kind of flex/productivity enhancement. STOP BEING POOR FIRST.
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>>108707725
>No dependency on SystemD
One of the few major distros that doesn't come bundled with systemD. You can still choose to use it but you're not forced, which is a major upside.
>USE flags
Gentoo's flagship (heh) feature, it allows you to turn features on and off either on a per package basis, or on a system-wide one. It's both the ultimate debloat weapon and a major tool for adding more features to your system.
Your system is debloated because it gets build with minimal dependencies. For example, every package will not support bluetooth unless you specify it. This is great for a PC that you had no intention of connecting a bluetooth device to. However, it is also a noob trap, since if you installed Gentoo on a laptop without it, then realized you wanted to use its bluetooth capabilities, you have to recompile every package that supports bluetooth.
However, it also allows you to unlock "hidden" features that package managers have disabled. For example, tmux has sixel support, but it's not enabled by default. If you want to, you can build tmux with USE="sixel" to enable it on your system. This is done seamlessly with Gentoo's package manager. On another distro, you would have to find the tmux source, manually download the dependencies, find the build config script and enable the relevant sixel line, etc.
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>>108707881
Devuan >
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>>108707725
Narcissists should be beaten or worse
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>>108707919
>Devuan
>looks inside
>1000th reskinned debian
no thanks saaar
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>>108707919
grim
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>>108707725
Is that a heckin' T14? Love that niqqa like you wouldn't believe..........
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>>108707725
They're cute
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>>108708165
Its either a T490 lol
This nigga too poor for a T14
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>>108707725
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>>108708359
>average systemd hater
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>>108707725
Why is 'grass' censored? Really, why?
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>>108708359
based
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>>108707725
assuming this is a good faith question, it Just Works. it simply does not break, which is really just a testament to how good Portage is. between
>main repo
>binhost
>guru
there's all the packages you'll need. if none of those have something, check out other people's overlays. if they don't have what you need, make your own git repo with the software you need. if there's a .deb of it you can whip up an ebuild for it
gentoo is great because it requires very little maintenance. and when you do need to do something off the beaten bath, it's relatively simple to do
also great community, great wiki
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>>108708611
>when you do need to do something off the beaten bath, it's relatively simple to do
thats a nice selling point if true, on deb everything works and you have an entire ecosystem to work with, but it can be a pain if you start "fighting" the system to do hacky things. i think the idea is that they work so you dont need to.
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>>108708436
slang for mary jew wanna
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>>108707881
i think i can do that with nixos except the mandatory systemd
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>>108708667
it's of course not as plug and play as debian. but yes, I don't have to fight with Gentoo because if I want to do something odd (which isn't that often) it doesn't get in the way.
remember it's a "meta-distribution". when you've been around Linux enough to know what you want, no other distro comes close to Gentoo, because Gentoo doesn't have opinions about what your stack is. i'm using OpenRC, systemd-boot, xfs, KDE Plasma. i have X11 globally disabled. you can use literally whatever combination of things you want
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>>108707725
top 10 w larps of all time
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>>108707725
He's one step away from trooning out, only thing missing is tranime consumption
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updating is such a pain that when it works you just stop touching your system and go on with your day
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>>108708359
Give this man all the medals!!!
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>>108707725
its the os for NEETs with no life
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>>108707725
You can install it.
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>>108708359
all the medals for you sir
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>>108708756
Why systemd-boot instead of grub? Genuine question
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>>108708756
>when you've been around Linux enough to know what you want, no other distro comes close to Gentoo
i can't argue against that, even though i've been around for quite a while. looking from here, gentoo seems like a great project, that will let your explore beyond what you thought possible.
im aware of how our devs are opinionated too, but most of the time i dont disagree with their reasoning, and for now im more than happy with deb's netinstall to choose build from.
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>>108707725
It makes incels feel special
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>>108707725
Source based distro. Problem is it is imperative and you got to compile most everything even though they started offering binary packages. The amount of bins available is small.

Declarative distros like Guix improve on this model by being reproducible and actually offers binaries to all the packages so you aren't wasting your fucking time.
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>>108709939
Sounds too good, whats the catch on Guix?
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>>108710052
Just like NixOS, you have to learn a complex, domain specific language just to manage your declarative OS and it doesn't even try to be POSIX.
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>>108707725
>autist holding laptop like a holy object in the middle of the woods
humanity is so over
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>>108710052
- Learning Scheme which is mind opener as it is a metaprogramming language when most are used to a non-metaprogramming language.
- If you need non-free drivers you need to use the nonguix channel.
- Learn how the store works and understand it is different than the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.
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>>108710120
Scheme is simple/elegant and general purpose. Nix lang is complex and domain specific.
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>>108707725
there are kids with zero social life and responsibilities
and then there are kids with ZERO social life and responsibilities
gentoo users are the latter
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>>108709225
I don't need BIOS boot so systemd-boot is much simpler, no manual configuration is even required if you're just booting one OS. with a /boot partition you just `bootctl install`, that's it
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>>108707739
They're all busy with Kali.
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>>108710423
Systemd copied lilo
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>>108711066
The average anon cannot comprehend the l33t h4x0r mind of a 14 year old that dailies Kali
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>>108707725

I’m autistic.
I like routine.
Linux is routinely better than everything else.
It doesn’t matter if that is right or wrong.
See points 1 and 2 for why it doesn’t matter.
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>>108707725
>what's the appeal of gentoo?
Control.
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>>108711625
>Control.
Autism
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>>108707725
20 years ago it was nice to watch the system get built on your own computer over a span of several hours
I use Debian now as my Linux distro of choice, though, because I’m boring
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>>108708359
gem
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>>108708359
The Hero we need
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>>108708359
retards rally have a lot of time on their hands jeez
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>>108714627
you must be fun at LAN parties
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>>108712061
>war is peace
>control is autism
>ignorance is strength
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>>108707725
Killing your cpu.
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>>108708359
the kids are all right.
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>>108707725
Windows 10 >
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>>108707919
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>>108707881
V4jgc:w
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>>108720180
V3jgc:w*
my bad
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>>108707881
>For example, tmux has sixel support, but it's not enabled by default. If you want to, you can build tmux with USE="sixel" to enable it on your system.
I didn't even know this, this sounds very cool. Every day Gentoo sounds more appealing. When I build my next beef PC I might have to switch from Arch.
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>>108720196
>>108720180
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>>108720206
I tried to read this deranged illegible font but squinting my eyes a second time I think you're trying to show that you can do the same with modifying the PKGbuild with yay, you do have a point I guess.
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>>108720223
If you can't figure it out w/ me showing you, then I will not explain.
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>>108707725
>using gentoo on a shitty chinkpad
enjoy waiting 8 hours to update chromium
>but uhhhhh just use binary packages
then whats the point of using gentoo?
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>>108720241
I think I deciphered your autism, you also gave the exact sequence of vim bindings to enable it as well. Impressive.
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>>108720270
Why did checking the pckgbuild not enter the mind of >>108720196 before wanting to distrohop to gentoo?
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>>108720294
It did, did you read my first reply? >>108720223
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>>108720299
This post can only make sense if
>>108720196 and >>108720223 are not the same person and >>108720299 misunderstood >>108720196, or >>108720299 is pretending to not be both >>108720223 and >>108720196.
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>>108720331
>>108720196 and >>108720223 is me and I came to the realization of >>108720180 when you posted >>108720206.
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>>108707881
Another interesting perk I saw mentioned here is that if you do open source work you'll always have the correct build dependencies without having to try to fetch them yourself. But people seem to be opting for docker containers now so it's kind of moot.
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>>108720359
I suppose that clears up the confusion. Always read pckgbuilds. Have a nice day.
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>>108720388
Thanks, you too.
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>>108707725
these days not much
>alt arches
t2sde
>rolling release
arch
>no systemd
artix
>musl
void/chimera
main reason to drive gentoo is if youre extremely autistic and want to be able to patch out literally anything from ur system and face the consequences for doing so
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>>108707725
>muh neofetch
>muh btop
>doing no actual work



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