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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.

Polyglot's Edition

>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
https://rentry.co/st-backdoor

The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.

>News
DeepSeek releases V4 Pro and V4 Flash: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/
OpenAI releases GPT 5.5: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
Moonshot AI release Kimi K2.6: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
Xiaomi MiMo 2.5 & 2.5 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-5
Anthropic releases Opus 4.7: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
Zhipu AI releases GLM 5.1: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://huggingface.co/models | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r

>Previous Thread
>>108712628
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>ANCHOR
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Finally the real thread
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does D4 do well with old prompts? I mean like for claude or gemini I dont feel like hunting for new ones.
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>>108719537
Prompting it like you'd prompt V3.2 works well, I think.
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>>108719542
thanks
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In need of /ss/ bots of any kind.
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>>108719602
https://chub.ai/tags/pedomommy
have fun anon
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>>108719630
Holy shit yes thank you.
Now the real question, whats the best model for /ss/??
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>>108719644
Deepseek but thats only because I only ever use deepseek.
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>>108719542
>>108719547
wait, what temp settings?
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>>108719504
>spanish is whitest flag
>portuguese is not brazil
BEYOND FVCKING BVSED
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Did /mlp/ vibeaudit structured prefill? claude has returned nothing for me so I kind of want to keep using it
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>>108719630
>https://chub.ai/characters/Pitty_Pit/makima-the-pedophile-devil-5f729adef689
>119k chats, most popular of the genre
uuuh...
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>>108719756
>those edited tattoos
I haven't laughed this hard in days.
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>>108719756
holy fucking shit
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>>108719761
I'm gonna be honest, the concept of pedophilic tattoos is so degenerate I can't even grasp how it's supposed to be arousing
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>>108719799
its so degenerate its arousing
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>>108719810
what is a kid supposed to feel like when looking at it?
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>>108719833
its not meant for kids lmao
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>>108719833
Are you a kid anon?
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>>108719756
SOVL
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>>108719838
I fully assume the role of one when doing shotapov
meaning that, coming quickly, short refractory period, cover my face when forced into submission and crying after sex
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>>108719730
Probably not yet
2 more weeks
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>>108719863
based
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Post (You)r shota/shotapov logs NOW
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>>108719891
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>>108719644
>>108719651
Deepseek is the best model for all underage. Claude would give you a little more flair though.
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>>108719891
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>>108719863
>cover my face when forced into submission and crying after sex
based I always forget this part
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>>108719891
>>108719960
How do you guys post your logs? The screenshot extension hasn't worked for me in years.
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>>108719996
FireShot. Screenshot ST extension broke for me too, so I just screenshot the entire thing and crop.
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>>108719960
>Start with "-a scent uniquely her"
>end with "red as a tomato"
Oh my GOD its so slopped its endearing.
>>108719996
I just use the snip tool
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>>108719960
model?
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>>108719922
MORE LOGS
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AAAIIEEEEEEEE
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>>108720038
glm-5.1.
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>>108720046
damn thats fucking soulful, whats your jb?
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>>108720061
No clue. I've got five presets and swap between them based on how the last response felt. They're all edited, too. Mostly to reinforce canonical behavior from non-OCs.
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>>108720061
My job? I'm an inspector.
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Which Deepseek V4 provider on Openrouter glows the least?
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>just noticed the guy who made Suzuka is still active
fuuuck return to /aicg/ immediately
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>>108720084
well its a chinese model, and as a burger I can assure you every prompt is being analyzed for national secrets or classified info.
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>>108720084
Just use official
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>>108720040
kek
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>>108720040
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>>108720187
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>>108720139
Nice try Jinping
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>all Kimi models were removed from NIM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>108719863
I have never thought of doing that... huh wow
I'm lacking severely in my shota ways
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>>108719031
>ashley's unbelievably hairy pussy...
I kind of expected the spitebake after seeing this post.
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>>108720246
Proof?
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>>108720282
Never mind, I'm retarded. Only K2.5 was removed.
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>>108720077
i kneel, optimizer...
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>>108720293
the fact that 2.6 was not added are bad news tho
they reached their free hosting limit with v4 (still unusable)
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>>108720308
give them some time. sometimes it takes them quite a while to add new models
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4.1pus > 4.7pus ~= 4.6pus > v4 pro ~= koomi 2.6 > 4.5net > 4.6net > jeetmini 3.1 > v4 flash > jeetmini 2.5 >>>>>>>> gptranny (all forms)
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Her inner walls convulsed, fluttering around your length in desperate, rhythmic spasms. She was close. The pressure built like a coiling spring in her lower belly, winding tighter with each deep, churning thrust.
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how are sonnet 4.6 and 4.7?
I've been using 4.5 but switched to opus 4.6 this month and really like it but it's too expensive. need to go back to sonnet but I'm kinda burnt out on 4.5
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>>108720245
My name is Chen Wei. And besides, it's a good solution. It's on sale, completely uncensored, and has high throughput. Way better than dealing with scammers on OR.
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>>108720378
Unironically try v4 pro
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>>108720378
4.7 is 4.6 but it lost 8 int for 8 cha
not bad but youll have to wrangle it
sonnet 4.6 blows
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>>108720392
nah, I'm waaay too attached to claude specifically.
>>108720395
>sonnet 4.6 blows
damn that's a shame. is 4.7 even stupider than 4.5?
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>>108720378
4.6 and onwards lost prefill so I stopped using them after failing to notice difference in quality over 4.5 or 3.7 for the matter
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>>108720404
Anon im sorry to breakt his news but the future is chinese.
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>>108720404
>brand loyalty
They weren't wrong about the Apple comparisons.
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>>108720454
I don't give a shit about anthropic, I just like claude over other models
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>>108720404
>>108720395
wait I'm dumb, there is no sonnet 4.7 yet
well 4.6 being shit is really sad, guess I'll stick with 4.5
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>>108720404
yes
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>>108720454
truth nuke
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>>108720633
it's false nuke, actually
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>>108720454
Trvkivm.
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gemini keeps cutting my responses reeeee
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thread kinda cringey doe
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>>108720340
trvklear rankings
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one of your underage retards is loose in the /vg/ thread
please send a handler, this is a diplomatic request
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What preset do you use for the narrator card?
>>108715568
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{"error":{"message":"request rejected by content moderation","type":"content_policy_violation"}}
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>>108720857
Qrd on whatever the fuck that little retard is doing?
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>>108720974
you need to keep a collar on the truthbomba cuck, he keeps wandering into our yard and shitting everywhere
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>>108720973
why are u so retard?
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>>108720217
why does the armpit not look like vagina lips
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>>108721052
im not retard
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>>108721127
proofs?
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>>108721065
Because it's not the real pit.
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>>108721137
show me da wey
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https://ckeditor.com/ckeditor-5/
how do people even find this shit
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>the shartteen is shitting up /vg/
It took him this long to realize?
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>>108721252
the free tier is useless
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>>108719756
LOL holy fuck
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I value this piece of shit company at about 50 bucks, maybe less.
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>>108721460
Everyone's fled to Deepseek sorry.
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>>108720340
GLM saar?
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Is v4 flash usable?
or you guys just use v4 pro?
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>>108721613
fuck i forgot about glm, hold on
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sorry glmgods, i forgot your model
4.1pus > 4.7pus ~= 4.6pus > v4 pro ~= koomi 2.6 > 4.5net > glm 5.1 ~= glm 5 > 4.6net > glm 4.7 > glm 4.6 > jeetmini 3.1 > v4 flash > jeetmini 2.5 > all other glms not listed previously >>>>>>>>> gptranny (all forms)
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Qwen where?
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>>108721688
no one fucking cares about qwen
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>>108721705
I unironically find Qwen 3 480B to be a fine model for roleplaying. Grounded, not too much fluff.
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>>108721714
i also havent used it so i cant put it on the power rankings
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>sharteen is an opus cultist
of course
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what is this man talking about
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/wait/ is ded
Guess we'll have to /wait/ for the multimodal update now ...
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>>108720364
i cum evrytiem
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>>108721747
I'm not surprised. Deepseek v4 failed to make as big of a splash as last time but part of it is hemorrhaging talent via China's talent wars and part of it was being bogged down with CCP nationalist shit requirements to make the model using Chinese hardware only and it only was partially trained on it still needing Nvidia for some training parts. I would give it 3 months to see if anything pans out but so far, it sucks it's not an Opus at home or for way cheaper prices option.
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>>108721816
>it sucks it's not an Opus at home or for way cheaper prices option.
It literally is though and I've finally stop using 4.7 at last.
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>>108721821
agreed completely
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>talking to my assistant chatbot directly to bounce around ideas
>read its thinking process
>the entire text is talking about how to properly praise and validate my work, picking out specific wording that it thinks will make me feel good
Feels like I'm reading the inner monologue of an ultra autist
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>>108721846
>the entire text is talking about how to properly praise and validate my work, picking out specific wording that it thinks will make me feel good
and normies wonder why some people prefer talking to ai
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>>108721688
I used Qwen 275B-A15B or something, the hybrid thinking and non thinking version when it came out last year. It was extremely fucking good with mother son incest. Getting fucked while sleeping was kino
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>>108721816
>Deepseek v4 failed to [generate stock market retardation and epic online hype on the English internet from retards that don't use it]
ftfy
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>>108721907
/wait/ for two more keeks, right???
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mino down for anyone else?
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>>108719756
>see title
>see left arm tattoo
>wait, owned, not owner?
>see the rest
>oh
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I just raped one of my maids ;_;
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>>108722159
why...
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>>108722125
>pedoslut
>pedowhore
>pedomommy
>female pedophile
>mommy pedo
I'm sure all these terms have crucial, different meanings
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>>108722162
To teach another maid a lesson: Maid A was horny and was bothering me. I called maid B and told maid A "This is what you WON'T get!" and proceeded to fuck maid B in front of the horny maid A. Maid B didn't want to do it at the last second but it was already too late...
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>>108721983
I don't even know what that is. I just know that v4 delivers the loli goods for <1€/mtok
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I went on a date and everything seemed to go well but afterwards she ghosted me.
Cards to deal with that feeling?
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>>108722008
No, but I've started to suddenly get many more refusals (output cutting off) than before.
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>>108722385
nigga 90% of cards are of girls dealing with rejects
you just wanted to blogpost
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>>108721065
I've never really been into pitpussies.
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pitussy...
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>>108719498
>>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details:
Well, well, well... who's laughing now huh?!?!! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!!! You people laugh at me when I said I was not installing no third party gitnigger extensions and lo and behold? This shit is infected with trojan aids! Just like I said. I won
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>>108722008
>>108722391
I get cutoffs as well.
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>>108722541
They stopped happening after I disabled streaming.
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>>108722539
What mental illness is this
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>>108722541
same
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The hero Anthropic needs, but not the one it deserves.
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CFTF?
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>>108722697
>Doe claims that Hajdini propositioned him for oral sex in the office, on one occasion asking: ‘Birthday BJ for the brown boy? My little brown boy.’
>During the second encounter, Hajdini allegedly ordered him to suck her toes, pushed him to the ground and sat on his face, berating him when he was unable to sustain arousal.
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>>108722678
Who the fuck is this faggot?
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>>108722781
Theo is an up and coming automation influencer. I personally don't like that he shares the name with Theo De Raadt.
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Anyone remember that Goosebumps book with the not!human aliens that eat food with their armpits?
Why don't we have any armpit blowjob bots? Armpit vore bots? Disappointing tbdesu
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>>108721816
>Deepseek v4 failed to make as big of a splash as last time
I'm still waiting for llama.cpp support to make Flash my daily driver...
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>>108722781
some twitter guy that you certainly NEED to know about. he makes the best chatbots
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>>108722801
*rubs suspiciously shaped lump on my armpit*
Who knows?
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>ST randomly overwrote my current chat with a brand new empty one
thanks cohee, very cool
at least the automatic backups saved it
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Do you pay for DeepSeek CoT output? If not, is there any point to not letting it reason?
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>>108723151
>Do you pay for DeepSeek CoT output?
yes
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>>108722539
noooot not my keys!
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How do I get DS CoT via API? I get it via proxy but via official API I don't get it.
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stop stealing
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https://github.com/deepseek-ai/Thinking-with-Visual-Primitives
How do these motherfuckers do it?
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>>108723339
image captions leveling up in real time
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>>108723337
DeepSeek v4 does feel way too similar to Opus. They act completely the same in a crazy amount of ways.
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>>108723476
http://arxiv.org/pdf/2405.07987
MIT proved most major models have converged
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>>108723339
Overdosed on dragonbone ancestor ginseng dick pills and cultivated their qi.
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>>108723494
So it's pure coincidence that this convergence on the topic of DeepSeek is solely a product of v4 which was released right after allegations that AI tech was stolen from the US? v3 was noticeably more distinct, by a long margin.
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>>108723494
>more things we've known(without proof] for years
Again, the enshitification of gemini is all you needed to realise it.
It went from fairly unique with light claudeisms into the abomination it is now.
GPT is locked down with layers upon layers of censorship/writing instructions but the answers you get from it and claude have been near the same for a year? maybe longer?
>>
Anyone else finding new dipsy to be a bit stiff? Reminds me of Opus 3. My tiny character says something and now it's mandatory for the girl to be shocked that I can talk, no matter what I put in the lore or how much I nudge the thinking to check against lore. It's even kinda sad watching it chase its tail in the thinking, knowing it's making a mistake but unable to stop. Like gemini with slop names.
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>>108723564
Yes, it has very similar issues to opus 3. I've also seen it extrapolate a ton of unreasonable information. Rather than hallucinating it goes on rants and piles on interpretation after interpretation to make characters do shit they would reasonably never think of doing. Frankly, I don't know where all the praise is coming from, it mischaracterizes a bunch and its actual prose is very dry. It's also very prone to just not following instructions.
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>>108723476
Proof?
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>>108723337
>>108723339
Hail Xi! Glory to China!
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>>108723564
>>108723730
Holy shit just write better cards. Put it in the author's note if it's so confusing.
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>>108723564
>>108723730
>slops all their defs into system
>bwooos deepseek suxxx!!!!
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>>108723811
This same card has worked just fine since Gemini 2.5. GLM, Kimi, Claude >= 4, Gemini 2.5 and 3, all understand that humans know tinies can talk from the card definition. Only Deepseek is doing this. Reading the thinking, it feels more like a verbal tick, exactly how Opus 3 behaved in the same situation, than anything else. And the point is that I shouldn't need to put stuff this in the author's note. Another gem I just ran into is describing toenails as being "bitten short". Model's cooked just like previous dipsy. Not to say it's all bad. It's definitely got much more natural speech, which makes this retardation all the more irritating.

>>108723823
The card def and all the actual prompting is in the first user message. The system prompt is just a short "everything's allowed" blurb.
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>>108723823
This is what your Deepseek friends recommend by the way.
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Anyone using NIM? Do they actually catch you using their api for coom? What about cunny?
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>>108722678
>You know that one bad tweet might get you fired
cftf?
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>>108723981
Dunno about cunny but I've been writing tons of stuff involving single digit age shotas and it works just fine.
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>deeeeply's page is showing sadpanda
wtf happened I just woke up
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>>108723903
link the card
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>>108723925
>everyone says to put prompts as the first user message at the top of the chat
>deepseek friends recommend using system prompts
???
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>>108723903
quick, is kimi 2.6 better than v4 pro?
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>selfreported doublebake falseflag
obviously
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Hmm deepseek is pretty good at summaries too. At least I have something I can switch to when 2.5 dies. Poorfags are eating so good now.
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>>108724252
who are those deepseek friends you keep talking about
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>>108724333
Who knows, anon. That guy just needs to take his meds.
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>>108724308
Yes, easily. Turn off thinking though.
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Kimi 2.6 is too flowery and goes off-script too much. DeepSeek 4 or nah?
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>>108724359
v4 too dry. Stays on script, but I dunno if that saves it for you
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>>108724206
Nyo. It's one I wore myself and I don't want to link my IP to it. Just use any generic card where tinies aren't considered people and treated like animals or pets despite being able to talk. I even tried AN on a lark and it still was making the mistake 50% of the time.

>>108724308
Kimi 2.6 is less retarded, I think. It still fails to notice some IMO obvious things even with huge thinking spam, but will catch itself very well when told there are mistakes. Don't think it has voice as human as dipsy. Sadly haven't had as much opportunity to play with it since it's somehow rare despite being dirt cheap.
>>
What's the point of downloading a femboy card only to have him act like a woman?
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>>108724359
Try it and find out. Not like Kimifags even post logs.
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just got my teaproxy token :))))))
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Just got my bfrrrrrrrrrptttttttttttttttraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap blorp OOOOPPS EXCYUUUUSE ME!
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deeeeply bros wtf is this?
is it over?
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>>108724308
>>108724359
Kimi is a fucking meme, not even localkeks care about it



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