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>yet another fartix thread
just why?

>>108723224
Artix would be fine if they had their own shit, rather than piggybacking off of Arch. Not a real distro.

>>108723224
The real problem with Artix is the lack of testing. A lot of very annoying bugs go seemingly unnoticed for weeks before an update is rolled. They're probably still on Xlibre 25.0.0 with the squished cursors, dinit installations still use some place in /etc/ as the default working directory, their KDE ISO prob has no time server or networking ootb and you have to enable shit yourself... it's just a worse experience overall

Can it play games?

>>108723224
I'm planning to install Artix for the first time today. Going to go with dinit, Xlibre, i3, Limine, and ext4.

>>108723369
Whole point is to be everything good from Arch without anything bad from Arch.

>>108723472
All the bugs are always just users not reading documentation, updating wrong or literally breaking things by using it wrong. Even your problems were 100% you preferring something else and crying about you having to enable/install something.

>>108723510
Of course.

>>108723516
Ok

I bit the Artix bullet and cannot tell any difference with the arch experience

>>108723642
>Even your problems were 100% you preferring something else and crying about you having to enable/install something
The most normie non-tinkertard default install ever, KDE with dinit on bare metal off of their stable KDE ISO had all of those problems from the get go. All I'm saying is they should test the systems their images end up installing for a minute or two before calling it good.

>>108723516
I messed around with dinit and I liked it quite a bit. Feels sleek compared to Systembloat.

>>108723825
They know it is like that because that is set like that. Maybe check before you download something and install. You are the people who installs Ubuntu and cry about snaps.

>>108723897
>The all-knowing artix maintainers
lol, if systemd start's phoning home I guess I'll switch to guix, gentoo, void, maybe nixos with liberated-systemd (the french will probably be working on it, by then) and pin all my packages to the version that works w/ liberated.

>based and dependent on arch
>maintained by script kids
no thanks.

>>108723224
>recommended for anons who want Arch benefits and XLibre without systemd/GNOME or those interested in learning alternative init systems
hence all the kvetching ITT already

The main problem with Artix is that is it overtly "chud" meaning it's either managed by retards with no decorum, or it's a honeypot of some sort. Same thing with Xlibre.
>>108723984
If you need "Arch benefits" you are a retard. Uou are better off using Gentoo, Void, Slackware, CRUX, or literally anything else.

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>>108723224
There is always a bigger fish

>>108724033
>If you need "Arch benefits" you are a retard. Uou are better off using Gentoo, Void, Slackware, CRUX, or literally anything else.
This, I can see a bit of value on being able to test more inits, but its all half assed and theres no synthesis. Want openrc? Gentoo or Alpine. Want runit? Void. dinit? Chimera. sysv? Slack.

>>108724033

sudo pacman-key --recv-keys 73580DE2EDDFA6D6
sudo pacman-key --finger 73580DE2EDDFA6D6
sudo pacman-key --lsign-key 73580DE2EDDFA6D6

echo [xlibre] | sudo tee -a /etc/pacman.conf
echo "Server = https://x11libre.net/repo/arch_based/x86_64/" | sudo tee -a /etc/pacman.conf
sudo pacman --noconfirm -Syyu \
xlibre xlibre-input-evdev \
    xlibre-input-keyboard \
    xlibre-input-libinput \
    xlibre-input-mouse \
    xlibre-input-synaptics \
    xlibre-input-void \
    xlibre-video-amdgpu \
    xlibre-video-fbdev \
    xlibre-video-sisusb \
    xlibre-video-vesa \
    xlibre-xorgxrdp-glamor \
    xlibre-xserver \
    xlibre-xserver-common \
    xlibre-xserver-devel \
    xlibre-xserver-xephyr \
    xlibre-xserver-xnest \
    xlibre-xserver-xvfb

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>>108723935
>>108724033
>>108724101
Parabola is just Arch so I can have all that and more in Artix (just import repos and change if some package has systemd dependency).
>arch is too left wing, removed XLibre etc.
>guix was first to adopt the new bad Code of Conduct https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108673086/#108675047 also https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2020/join-gnu-guix-through-outreachy/
>gentoo is official trans distro https://www.reddit.com/r/transprogrammer/comments/v0bt2d/which_is_the_official_trans_linux_distro/
>void has https://github.com/void-rs/void/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md and https://xcancel.com/VoidLinux/status/1267525360679354374
>nixos is basically official distro of LGBT https://discourse.nixos.org/search?q=lgbt
>alpine: "let me be more direct: if anyone merges xlibre i will be pursuing a code of conduct violation against them ... because the xlibre project represents an unacceptable ideology ... this is about politics, not just software."
>chimera main developer is trans

Sure, Slackware and Crux are good. Artix is just all the good from Arch, Slackware, Crux but without bad things from those three. I continue using Artix that is only distro in the whole world which is not anything bad, has everything anyone needs in any distro and is also {based}, has xlibre, has dinit, no politics, too difficult for non-tech-savvy normies here but really comfy and easy compared to Gentoo (official trans distro) and Artix doesn't have any void tier propaganda, no nixos tier lgbt forums etc. Artix is perfect. It is all {based}ness merged with "just works" and only thing even 4chan could do during years and years of shit talking was to meme "fartix" and cry about how stupid and tech illiterate they are. That's it.

>>108725224
k. Arch "just works" better, and >>108724134 is a thing, and Xlibre has a wiki on their github page, so....

>>108723516
>dinit, limine, ext4
based
>i3, xlibre
bluepilled
>limine

>>108725224
Does Artix have a lobby in washington to fight laws?

>using ideology to choose your distro
imagine being this mentally ill kek

>>108725297

>>108725273
Why are i3 and xlibre bluepilled? I've been using Openbox and X11, figured I'd try something a little different.

>>108723248
real ads cost money

>>108723224
I have an Artix ISO in case shit hits the fan with the age verification stuff. I might try to make an arch non systemd cinnamon xlibre abomination with it if it's that easy.

I have artix on two laptops and a desktop. I also use it in some vms that need bleeding edge kernels.
It gets out of your way. You get the AUR for premade pkgbuilds and very few packages are uninstallable with systemd requirements. Usually a *-git is available for those or you can edit the pkgbuild yourself to ignore the requirement. I use apt-cacher-ng on a server for artix and arch repos so updates are at line speed.
Building runit services takes seconds and I don't need to daemon-reload every time I make a minor edit. Logging just makes sense in /var/log and I don't have to deal with journal bullshit.
The only thing I wish they'd do is keep a zfs-kernel active. I get why they don't but I'd be more comfortable booting from zfs with zfsbootmenu if I didn't have to manually check supported kernel versions. It would also fit with their "function over politics" theme they've got going on.

>>108723224
Has anyone successfully migrated from EndeavourOS to Artix?

>Install Ubuntu
>NOOOO UBUNTU IS SHIT NOOB GARBAGE
>Install Debian
>NOOOO DEBIAN IS POZZED NOW AND SHIT AND DOODOO
>Install Arch
>NOOOO ARCH IS NOW TRANNY SYSTEMDICK SHIT CANCER AGE VERIFICATION
>Install Artix

When are you fags going to learn?

>>108725255
>and Xlibre has a wiki on their github page, so....
Uh yeah I'm sure it's about that and not because someone connected to RH had panic attack and in fit of rage deleted that wiki page. Arch guys should change that fragment about pragmatism and being apolitical from their side because no matter how many times they redesign the "display servers" page it will not change the fact that they betrayed their own users.

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>>108728309
>REEEEEEE YOU NEED TO PUT UP A PAGE FOR THAT SHIT MAINTAINED FORK
you lost, systemD and wayland won.

>>108723224
Trannies will hate it because it's one of the few non-pozzed distros.
>>108723369
I don't see a problem with that. It's not like it's using the main Arch repos.

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>>108724033
>le chuds lack DECORUM
>le chuds are FEDS
>le chuds are DANGEROUS
I'm just a sensitive young man :(

>>108726061
leah has been shilling her distro here for the past week or so too, this is all very inorganic.

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>>108723224
Reminder that every install or mention of Artix IS CAUSING HARM!
Each one pushes another transistor closer to the point of popping!

>>108723224
I used it for two years. I loved it, but too much software I depend on relies on basedstemD.

I swapped from Arch to Artix over a week ago so far it's pretty much the same experience, I am a gamer and all my games work perfectly.

Only issues I've had are not being able to use programs that rely on systemd there are not many and honestly fuck using them in principle and there are usually workarounds.

I am a noob and it was easy for me to get everything running even in Nvidia, I installed the KDE community version it comes with xlibre and Wayland and basically just works for Nvidia I had to do a small amount of messing about but nothing that a quick search or AI prompt can't help with.

If you are thinking of using Artix I recommend it.

I'm currently on fedora, but I'm thinking of switching to either artix or void because I'm sick of gnome and systemd. Any advice?

>>108723224
>A breakdown of Artix
That's a statement of fact.

>>108729974
Download community version of Artix or xfce version of void for ease of use. If you are a gamer use Artix it has much more resources for gaming same if you use Nvidia.

>>108723224
I'm switching back to plain Arch
I do recognize I'm being slowly boiled by using systemd but unfortunately there's some work I need to do which require apps that depend on it for some stupid reason
The fap machine stays on Artix tho

>>108729987
KDE on void is nice if you want a GUI for a lot of the settings. It doesn't come with everything, so you'll have to install the modules you need (like power management).

>>108729987
Should I be worried about using a systemd-less distro? Will stuff like power-profiles-daemon work? Is the hassle worth it in the end?

>>108729974
>fell for the meme award
from fedora to artix/void? youll be back in one week, when you start having to work for the system to get basic shit working.
>>108730066
>Is the hassle worth it in the end?
if you need to ask, no. but go ahead.

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>>108723224
If it's anti american, I'm in.

>>108725224
>>arch is too left wing
What's the problem?

>>108730066
I'm a noob myself most things work as usual only two programs I have had issues with as they rely on systemd.

For the most part you will be okay unless you need to use something specific that uses systemd.

Artix is much easier to get into than Void as pretty much everything is done for you in the community versions and you have a lot more packages than on Void.

But if you like minimalism more Void is the way to go.

>>108730175
>only two programs I have had issues with as they rely on systemd.
Which ones?

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>>108730066
If an Arch wiki page ask you to activate a systemd service, just activate it with your init script instead. If it is not found, just search <packagename>-<initname> on the packages and install it, then activate it.
Usually the service name is the same as systemd, or if not, add "d" at the end of it like networkmanagerd
Artix also has its own wiki pages, though not as extensive as Arch's

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>>108723224
I've been heavily considering Artix to install on my new Panasonic Let's Note japtop. I'm torn between this and Gentoo. I don't care about compile times so what's a good argument to use this over Gentoo?

There's a special synaptic driver to enable circular scrolling but it only functions on xorg. Since Artix ships with xlibre ootb I'm assuming it would work.

>>108723369
No idea what you mean by this. They literally have their own repositories.

>>108730659
Believe it or not I have this exact model. I generally prefer Gentoo over Artix by a huge margin - but I don't run it on this laptop, just my desktop. I can tell you Devuan worked great though.

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>>108725224
>https://www.reddit.com/r/transprogrammer/comments/v0bt2d/which_is_the_official_trans_linux_distro/
are you retarded or just a shill? this link is to a reddit poll with arch winning by a huge margin

>>108731004
what is fartix without arch?
>>108730659
install gentoo.

>>108731037
smartest fartix shill

:: PGP keys need importing:
 -> 0D96DF4D4110E5C43FBFB17F2D347EA6AA65421D, required by: python313
 -> E3FF2839C048B25C084DEBE9B26995E310250568, required by: python313
:: Import? [Y/n] 
:: Importing keys with gpg...
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 -> problem importing keys

please help saars

>>108730099
>youll be back in one week
I was back in 6 hours

>>108731037
>>108731085
Sometimes I find myself wondering: how the fuck are you even able to use the internet? Holy shit. :D

>>108730182
One was the proton VPN app but it's a super easy fix and the other was when trying to run a ea game in steam that required the EA app and I had previously ran it on normal arch but for some reason no matter what I did (and I did pretty much everything you could do to fix it) it wouldn't run and I was king asking ai to guide me and eventually it just said it may require systemd but desu it's a windows app and it also sucks and ruins games on actual windows so fuck it.

>>108729974
don't fall for the meme
There's nothing wrong with gnome and systemd

>>108732338
told ya so, im guilty of falling for that /g meme myself. not worth it.

>arch but schizo
yeah, nah

>>108734253
fedora just does everything I want it to with almost zero downsides.

>>108725224
>Parabola is just Arch
It's exactly because of this that is doomed, retard. Enjoy your arch breakage.

>>108734863
Arch doesn't break. You just have to read before updating if it requires manual intervention. In 24 years, Arch has never broken. I know reading English is difficult for Americans because over 60% of them are below 6th-grade and over 40% of them can't even read English text.

>>108723224
It's just as shit as tranny filled Arch.
>broken packages and modules
>releases that break things
>imcomplete
>lazy devs that use the "LOL we didn't install that because we want YOU to have total control!! :DDDD"
fuck Cucktix, VOID is the only real distro left.

>>108723224
Artix shat itself for me during installation so I did not bothered with it anymore.
Devuan is the way to go.

>>108736236
Go void. Devuan is for homosexuals.

>>108736236
>Artix shat itself for me during installation
No you probably used it wrong without correct kernel parameters or break it by manually doing incorrect things. Proably had nvidia and didn't use nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 in your live-cd

>>108736286
>YES GOY USE OUR BROKEN SHITTY DISTRO THAT WE COULDNT BE BOTHERED TO FIX
artix devs are incompetent hacks. A 16 year old vibe coder could make a better distro

>>108736265
If you like Void the official BLM distro ( https://xcancel.com/VoidLinux/status/1267525360679354374#m ), maybe you should try Fedora next https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Pride/Ideas

>>108736299
It is not broken if you broke it. Maybe don't break everything manually just because you are non-tech-savvy and low iq retard.

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>>108736160 >>108736265
I love Void because it is only distro officially supporting all BLM, LGBT and specifically has trans developer lead and administration. It also supports all ethnicities, gender/sexual identities, Void developers don't care about code quality or level of experience, education, they support keeping homeless people homeless, muslim, judaism and specifically support obese fat people. I would say Void is the best distro that includes everything we love together into one distro that supports all these things with large monetary support just by you installing it for free.
https://github.com/void-rs/void/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108673086/#108675020

I read up on artix really quick thinking it might be viable as an alternative to systemd arch

and then I read that people typically have to write their own scripts to unfuck aur packages so it works without systemd and noped out

guess its just devuan or void then

>>108736396
I guess it's devuan then

>>108736421
Only reason you don't have to do that in devuan or void is the fact that you don't have AUR or any packages in the first place... Even if you find one systemd package, you still have to do the same exact thing with that before using you fucking retard.

>>108736427
uh no, shit just works in devuan

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>>108736426
>"You will own nothing and be depressed." https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7854
>main dev of devuan is against freespeech https://github.com/parazyd/cancel
>"We prefer contributions from liberal, black, gay, or anything in between! Remember, this is a meeting place for a rainbow of users who all share a love of Devuan. So please play nice. smile. from the The Devuan Dev1Galaxy Admin Collective" https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=17
>community and devs are officially pro-trans, pro-lgbt and pro-blm which is a very good thing obviously http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/
>new code of conduct is actually a very good and needed thing, devuan thinks we should be kind to everyone! https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6882
>"He is a fascist clearly, as only fascists use woke as a negative. Also, only fascists use alex jones as a positive. So... yeah Woke means your aware of systematic oppression. and alex jones is a conspiracy nut" https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6818
>"we have droves of right wing nuts, the MAGA crowd, conspiracy nuts, anti vax, xenophobes and other assorted deranged types spewing vitriolic bile in all directions" https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7779
>"As far as Xlibre. The problem here is that the author has been a bigoted piece of shit" https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7915

Can you play games on this as well as on Cachyos?

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>>108731021 >>108736236 >>108736421 >>108736436

>>108736517
"get devuan and you'll instantly become a furry transfem"
Devuan is a registered trademark of the Dyne.org foundation:
>devuan lists diversity as one of its three core guiding principles
>love to mix methods disciplines knowledge culture and languages
>love their lgbt culture
>advocate for social justice
>jaromil founder discussed the struggle to put social justice back into technology
>explicit dedicated content specifically addressing lgbt rights initiatives
>transgender-specific projects and advocacy
>gay community programming
>queer-focused technology tools
>explicit inclusion policies for sexual or gender minorities
>devuan work centers on digital sovereignty and privacy tools
>focus on environmental sustainability through tech reuse
>their approach to inclusion appears structural and philosophical
>build tools that empower all marginalized communities by design
>create identity-specific programs
>their privacy tools like tomb encryption can protect vulnerable communities
>their federated tech offers fediverse support
>fediverse support offers alternatives to corporate platforms
>corporate platforms may moderate queer content inconsistently
>their open-source ethos aligns with many queer tech collectives values

The only reason I'm not using Artix is because even though I use Arch I rely on CachyOS's chwd tool to auto-install my drivers because I can't be arsed to do that manually and it didn't seem to work on Artix.
If the age verification shit hits the fan I'll have to though.

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>>108723224
Install Gentoo.
Arch, in all its forms, is fucking gay and retarded.

>>108736634
I'm too much of a brainlet to understand which compiler/use flags I want

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>>108736640
Read the Gentoo Handbook, nigga. Fuck, if you're too retarded to do that then ask your favorite LLM to spit one out for you and use that as a base.

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>>108736634
Artix is perfect for me.

>>108736653
Ok gay retard

>>108736652
Given I need to flash an OS on an orange pi and you can probably get Gentoo to run in toasters I think I'll give it a shot

>>108736160
Devuan uses sysv-init style scripts even if you choose OpenRC as your init meaning you gotta scour though all the init scripts to find what retarted name they have given to mount, net, etc.

Just FYI artix doesn't have the install script that Arch has and doesn't come with any of the tools that makes using wifi easy on Arch.

iwd
station wlan0 connect <ssid name>
exit
ping 1.1.1.1
CTRL-C

That's how easy it is to get wifi up and running before you even install Arch.

On artix? Good luck.
>just read the wiki bro
>just read these 4 pages of 10,000 words to try and understand what you need to do
>just learn how the 'ip' command works brah
>works on my machine bro

If you want to use Artix just install Arch and use the script to remove systemd to migrate it.

>>108736763
Use a LiveISO with a desktop environment and use the GUI to connect to the internet
Zero reason not to

What about UwUntu?

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>>108723248
to smoke out canadian fart-sniffers

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>>108730164

>>108729949
What are these programs thaf depend on systemD? I've been running artix for like 5 years and there hasn't been anything I wasnt able to do. The only package I can think of that depends on systemD is gnome.

>>108725224
>>void has https://github.com/void-rs/void/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md
In all fairness, that's not Void's. They don't have one, but they're BLM.
https://xcancel.com/VoidLinux/status/1267525360679354374#m

>>108731206
change pgp server, they're notoriously erratic

>>108736763
>On artix? Good luck.
Even base ISOs come with a network manager, wtf are you on?

UwU

>>108725224
>no politics
Damn, I thought it was the based alt right distro. Where is a privacy seeking ethnonationalist with environmentalist leanings to go these days?

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>>108736609
>>108736517
KEK based. Exposing the devuan niggers for once, I'm stealing that material.

I don't mind trans.

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>>108737499
>*HONK!* I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT PEEPEES OR POOPOOS! I FAILED AT JUGGLING AND NOW THERE'S HOT SOUP IN MY CLOWN PANTS! FUCK YOU, CLOUD! YEAH, YOU! YOU'RE WHY I'M A FAILURE!
>MY FEELINGS ARE HURT YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ABOUT MY FAVORITE VOID OH NO
>VOID LINUX IS FOR TRANS PEOPLE
>YOU PEEPEEPOOPOOS POST ON IMAGEBOARDS RAN BY POOPOOS! NOT ONCE HAS MY SHIT LEAKED OUT! THUS I DON'T CARE!
>BLACK LIVES MATTER
>STOP LOOKING AT ME, READER! THIS IS *YOUR* FAULT! ENJOY YOUR CORPORATE POO WHILE I SCREAM AT THE SKY!
>DUMBASS PEEPEEPOOPOOS! *SQUEAK SQUEAK*

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>>108730175 >>108736160
>>108736265 >>108737499
>"Please stop using our software. Blocked." @VoidLinux (26 Oct 2020)

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>>108738181
No such thing

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>>108738181
Voidtroon calling other trannies

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>>108738181
I love Void Linux, trans rights!

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>>108738224
>rent-free

>>108736609
source?

>>108738342
https://www.devuan.org/
https://dyne.org/

I was on board with artix until I saw you guys talking about script hacking for pacman...

Can you elaborate?

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>systemd shoots itself in the foot repeatedly
>the one chance the non-systemd community has to make serious progress
>would rather schizo out and keep infighting because of a handful of trannies
these threads are always a fucking mess

>>108738427
Artix faggots started it. They always start it. The Devuan homos never say a peep though.

The only advantage I see of using Artix over Guix, Alpine or Void is the ecosystem dotfiles for things like Hyprland. Most github rices are easily installed for Arch with scripts using pacman.

>>108738498
you're assuming said Arch scripts will just work on Artix. they won't.
>t. tried it

>>108738649
Artix is not good. It's no where as well developed as Void or Devuan. I really don't know why it gets shilled here so hard, other than browns pushing
>Muh white power
Narrative.

>>108738649
Which ones?, because I have never had one fail, i'd like to see what happens.

>>108738398
That is not a thing. In reality, if you have Dinit for example, you just install the package and it works or you install the package and then the package-dinit and it works. Devuan and Void users have exactly the same situation; if package is made for systemd, they have to install their init-version or tinker something.

>>108723516
i use myself artix with kde plasma, runit, limine and f2fs on my thinkbook with uefi secure boot. it feels modern and streamlined, and it boots in like 10 seconds from a cold start. being behind a distro that explicitly rejected the globohomo verification nonsense feels peaceful too

>>108738441
>others never say anything or start it
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/artix
https://archived.moe/_/search/text/artix/

I checked and Artix anons basically never say anything or start anything and instead it is always other anons (Devuan, Void, Gentoo, Arch etc.) who start and insult others 24/7 year around. In fact over 16 thousand times.

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>>108723510
it can play my entire steam library with zero issues and much more

>>108727804
check pic related

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>>108738892

Void it is.

>>108738892
>>108738913
this is why the corporations (red hart and canonical) won. you morons are too busy pissing and shitting yourselves over nonsensical bullshit instead of banning together
>OMG A TRANNY NOOOOO
>OMG A STRAIGHT WHITE MAN NOOOOO
bread and circuses and you idiots fall for it every time.

>>108738649
I want to use hyprdots on Artix but the install scripts from jeets are all super complicated and I just don't have the technical knowledge to dissect them and apply them to other distros. My easiest solution was to install them on Arch and then replace systemd with open-rc. But I keep seeing dinit recommended over the others so I am a bit on the fence.

>>108738972
>scripts from jeets are all super complicated a
jeets don't know what they are doing.
>Run into problem
>YouTube it
>See guide by jeet, it's 30+ minutes, complex shit
>See guide by white dude
>It's 3 minuets (2 minutes of him shilling some bullshit)
>Follow white dude's guide
>Problem fixed
why are jeets like this?

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>>108738955
>post the same image but illegible as a joke
>anon starts pissing and shitting himself

>>108739001
nice file size, moron.

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>>108739010
thanks

>>108739022
now you're just trolling. when you get diagnosed with Down's Syndrome?

>>108739027
when did you get diagnosed with schizophrenia?

>>108738427
it's already happening again
kek

whats with the uptick of fartix shills lately

>>108723369
>rather than piggybacking off of Arch.
What's wrong with "arch but not gay?"

>>108739163
systemd adding a dob field (which still hasn't been used btw) got the schizos crawling out of their hole

>>108739270
it has nothing to do with dob fields, you obvious shill. it has everything to do with the fact it could be done with no oversight or accountability.
when systemd takes complete control over the entirety of linux (which it will) and the maintainers do something that directly affects you, then you'll be..... no actually you wont. you're a sheepbrained NPC, you'll go along with it.

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>>108723224
But I did install it in a vm. Desu, I'm so sick and tired of everything being shittified. I still love gnome with Fedora. I just have to switch. I'm using artix, runit and Hyprland.

>>108739270
it's insane. all the commotion, FUD and misinformation we've been seeing just because they tried to standardize a place to store a birth date.

>>108739270
>>108740766
>you can fuck me in the ass as long as you don't call me names

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>when you use XFECES on Fartix

>>108723516
I just switched to it. I went dinit and stuck with my trusted xfce w/ xfwm4 and cortile. Maybe I'll switch back to i3 but cortile does most of what I need.

Also I use grub.

I just kinda keep using the same shit I've used for over a decade other than going from debian > arch > void > artix

very happy with this system so far other than my retarded ass is having issues getting bluez to work with dinit. I can't fucking detect the bluetooth adapter in my test machine (t460).

Hopefully I can get it figured out when I put it on my main laptop (Gen 5 T14).

>>108739468
how is hyprland working for you without systemd? Any complaints?

xfce loyalist and usually use i3, xfwm4 + cortile or a heavily modified openbox.

I might give it a go on my xfce dinit install.

Also why did you go runit over dinit? Just curious. Dinit has been great so far but there are a few things that I wish I could have found info on but couldn't.

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>>108723248 >>108731068 >>108731085 >>108739163 >>108741364
The only criticism Artix receives is a single "fartix" meme. Like I said, you know a distribution is truly solid when the harshest thing people can say about it, rather than presenting actual arguments or facts, is a forced, irrelevant fart joke.

>>108742171
systemd is genuinely useful and in some cases even more minimal than the components it replaces (like timesyncd is only a client ntp implementation instead of both server and client like ntpd), only the gullibles hate it

>>108742177
Systemd becomes a nightmare when you have to update a server. I tried to update an almalinux 9 vps to an upper version, and all that systemd was able to do was being in the way.
Service management is quite a hassle when you have to write something fancy. It always uses random directory that change over version to copy and link shit. Journalctl is inefficient and goes in your way when you try to debug service files.

The only thing that keep users using systemd is that every major distro use. It's just a fucking circular thinking :
> Why is systemd good
Because every distro use it
> Why every distro use it
Because it's good

Kek

>>108741417
Hyprland works fine without systemdick. I chose runit because I've used it at work. It works fine.

>>108738427
that was the entire point of fagging up linux with trannies

>>108742171
we've been through this before, fucking shill. theres nothing solid about it, its based on arch, its mainteined by amateurish script kids and its raison d'être is being anti-systemd.
its just a more fucked up arch, thus an abomination like devuan. now answer: whats artix without systemd and arch?

>>108743638
>whats artix without systemd and arch?
Arch's freer, lighter soul. Pre-2012.

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>>108743342
>Linux; hetero white male community + 12 trans devs in some unofficial website
>Microsoft; gay brown feminist community + 2.3 million trans devs + 350 million LGBT DEI devs in official website
>Apple; gay black woman community + 1.2 million trans devs + 230 million LGBT DEI devs in official website

Also Windows (yes, even your 7) and macOS have worse cucklicense and worse code of conduct. Both also non-free proprietary spyware.

After all this, stupid low iq anons like you still choose LGBT DEI option and live a lie where "linux is the trans one". Make it make sense...

>>108744717
You'll never be white.
Cope.

>bumping at page 10
you can tell they're really subtle about it

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>>108745824 >>108745844
You're uncomfortable with not being white yourself, and you're mad because the facts prove you wrong. Maybe take a step back and reflect on why reality feels so threatening to you right now that you're crying about your feelings here.

>>108725224
>>108736517
>>108736609
>>108736653

the kernel itself is politically gay af nowdays, with that being said adding systemd and dbus to it makes it orders of magnitude more cringe

>>108744041
>nothing
thought so.

>>108746207
If you were white, you wouldn't have spent days on this thread, screeching about it.
It feels like you're looking for validation, something that no white person would waste time of their lives doing.

>>108746543
You are the only one spamming here because your feelings are hurt. Go outside or something. Holy shit you are obsessed.

>>108723224
>>108725224
>>108736653
>>108738173

stop projecting bruv, anything arch based is massive troonfaggotry, obviously

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>>108743638
>whats artix without systemd
retard alert

>>108746655
Nice cope.

>they cant answer

>>108746688
That's why I use Gentoo

>>108723224
it's made by anarchists and commies

>>108748768
+1

>>108748792
no thats antix, artix / arch is just gay

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>>108743638
>whats artix without systemd and arch
Holy cope, dozens of Arch-based distros which only offer an idiot-proof installer, customized desktop and *perhaps* an extra repo with either distro-specific packages or v3/v4/zen4 ones:
>legit
Meanwhile, Artix has deracinated cancerd, supports 4 init systems, offers most major desktops, zero corporate support/influence, no tracking, consistent neutrality:
>protest distro
Fuck you and every other corporate shilling fagotty troon ITT. Go submit your IDs "to protect the kids" already.

>>108723224
> rolling-release distribution
I don't like it.

>>108742171
This

Most of the "fartix" meme-toddlers and "linux bad" npcs are the samefags who defend their corporate adware-pozzed default-on-my-machine slop like macOS or Windows hiding behind the obvious cope of "teehee I'm so real and practical and totes-not-a-schizo". On the other hand you have the "2smart4u" crowd who smell their own farts and wave their dicks to everyone just because they spent a whole weekend (or even a whole week) installing gentoo or linux from scratch and think that gives them moral superiority over artix and other linux users.

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>>108750446
>Fartix

>>108723472
Why would you even use this troon activist DE when you are on Artix? I can't with people who complain about Xlibre being full of bugs but at the same time use KDE that is called KrashDE for a reason.

>>108724121
Why do I need synthesis?
I'm on Artix OpenRC and everything just werks.

>shartix
lol, couldn't be me

>>108738892
Hypervisor bypassed games, too?

>minimalist and easy to customize
>ships with an auto-installer w/ full disk-encryption option (saves time)
>basedstemd-free distro that encourages hands-on learning by not being a Windows clone
>just werks

Artix cured my distro-hopping. Fuck the haters.

https://github.com/Michael-Sebero/Algiz-Linux

Check out my Artix configuration for s6 and OpenRC.

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>>108751841
>moved to artix after that bootlicker added the age-ver field in systemd
>it just werks(tm)

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>>108742171
it's just Arch but worse, that's all
>>108728358
it's just worse in every way, that's all
>>108728309
it does nothing for you, that's all
>>108737101
you're brain-dead, that's all
>>108725224
>removed something they never had nor supported
Artix is the official whiny teenager that's too slow to install Gentoo distro, no human with a functioning brain gives a shit about any of this slop you shat out
>>108742520
updates work fine and you don't need to touch journalctl to get logs for units, you just suck ass
>>108752499
>too stupid to install Arch
I use Gentoo btwitm

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>>108752566
Thanks for bumping

>>108752566
>implying I never installed Arch
>implying I never installed Gentoo

Nigger I've installed both manually and still went with Artix. Also :

>I-installed-gentoo self-fart-sniffer
Good for you for wasting hours of your life, at least I hope you learned something from the experience. Now do yourself a favor and
go outside for once.

>>108752564
>age-ver
Holy fuck, srsly? Is every systemd-distro that pozzed now? Now I'm even more glad and proud that I jumped to the Artix bandwagon. Seethe and cope systemd-cucks

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>>108752644
>Is every systemd-distro that pozzed now?
Merged: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
>it's just a field!
It's just the tip, goy!

As a soon-to-be linux user, everyone in this thread is a damn retarded faggot. Arguing over who uses what distro. Who cares if x distro is for trannies or alt right retards? Is the distro fun to use? Does it have functionality to aid you in meeting your goals from PC use? Yes and yes? Then download the distro, shut the fuck up, and enjoy. It's no wonder linux has the reputation it does. You're grown-ass men bickering about distros like children. Like be for real.

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>>108754436
kek

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I can't get Artix installed. It boots and then it eventually goes blank. Can you not use Ventoy or something? I'm using Void right now for a non-systemd system.

>>108754973
Found the faggot.

>>108754973
Nobody's reading your cope

>>108754994
>Ventoy
Not trying to shift blame here because Fartix is probably broken but why not use the tried and true Rufus?

>>108754436
Horrible bait.

>>108752566
Cope and seethe

Coming off of mint, would artix, endeavor, or plain arch be better for gaming but also paranoid?

>>108742171
>>108728358
>>108723224
Most distros that aren't upstream tend to be incompetent and Artix is one example of them due to the fact that their maintainers are absolute clowns. If you want something that is actually any serious and reliable that has an alternative init system you should either install Alpine, Gentoo, Chimera or Void.
Your distro is based on something that is against it. This is the real only valid argument.
Now I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it, you're free to install whatever you want on your system, genuinely most of us don't care, I'm just giving you the reason why.

>>108752083
It's a well known bug in Xlibre that has nothing to do with the DE.

>>108755976
Endeavour is the closest to plain Arch that can do 1 click full disk encryption with encrypted boot. Cachy deviates a little more with prericed shells, v3-v4 repos etc. but still Arch under the hood with 1 click FDE. By hopping to Artix straight off Mint you're adding more stuff to learn and troubleshoot at the same time for which the Arch wiki might not be of help.

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>>108723224
Are they as pozzed as Arch Linux and did they ban XLibre like those retards?

>>108756863
No, XLibre is available in their repos just fine

>>108756953
They need to fork Arch WIki.

>>108754994
Do you have nvidia and didn't boot the live-cd with nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 ? When you have live-cd at grub screen, press e, put nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0 after linux line, press F10 to boot and it should boot.

>>108756783
Artix has graphical installer that does your "1 click full disk encryption with encrypted boot". You don't have to use those weird Garuda systemd tier distros to do that.

>>108756979
It is easier to just use it and use Artix forum when you have something systemd related. Usually you just install your init related package after you install the normal package. Then enable the service via your init.

>>108756863
XLibre is the default X Server for Artix.

>>108755367

Never had to use Rufus but I'll give it a go. I feel like it's Artix. I also use Fedora Media Writer so I'm guessing I tried that as well.

>>108757493

Nope, don't have a Nvidia GPU. X1 Carbon. It's booted every distro but this one.

I guess I missed the Artix hate. I mean I don't really like derivative distros, but everyone really seems to dislike it.

>>108757687
There is no hate towards Artix. Everybody likes it. Only negative things are non-tech-savvy normies crying because their systemd and gnome aren't available and the one guy (even in this thread) spamming that "fartix" word. There is no downsides, no hate anywhere. Whole thing with Artix is that it is perfect. Imagine hating Artix and there is zero things to use as weapons against it. Even the "it is lgbt/troon" spam doesn't work here because everything from developers to users, everything from mail lists to git conversations, every single post in xcancel to 4chan is just against all that leftist, "woke", dei stuff. You can go through 4chan archives, Reddit and even unofficial discords and other places, not finding anything bad. There is nothing else than anons crying about systemd, gnome and fart meme. Try searching void, arch, devuan, gentoo, debian, omarchy etc. and first thing you see is developer having "she/her" in their bio and "blm" on their linktree.

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>>108736517
>>108736609
Finally.
Fags here need to see how few options they really have, so they understand the importance of understanding Linux internals enough to roll their own setup.
You can't be dependent on ANYBODY else.

>>108757707
Indeed Fartix seems pretty based, I've been looking at it and might switch my distro to dinit, it looks like it shouldn't be too much work.

What virtual machine people use now to test linux? I want to give artix a try but i don't want to change anything in my computers right now.

>>108723642
the problem with arch is that its shit. use a real distro instead of your tinkershit

>>108760388
Install Gentoo

>>108757502
Where in my post did I say it doesn't?

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>>108755198
I ironically pasted someone else's cope to the meme template, you proved my point. Thanks senpai.

>>108723825
>most normie non-tinkertard default install ever
>KDE with dinit
*XFCE with runit

Verification is not required.

>>108756007
>Artix [..] maintainers are absolute clowns
How so?

>>108730099
>>108732338
>>108734253
>>108734281
samefag

>>108760922
Fair
I didn't read his cope either

>>108754994
>ventoy
On a topic completely separate of Artix, why are you using that glow nigger spyware?

>>108756007
>This is the real only valid argument.
You didn't even say anything bad about it. You are just spewing buzzwords.

>>108762457
NTA but what? I use my iodd mini pro doeverbeit.

>>108744717
>trans
*tranny

Stop misusing "trans".

>>108736634
>Install Gentoo.
nah
cy-x.net/topic/linux-as-a-whole-is-compromised/601

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Just installed Artix OpenRC and tomorrow I will install based SonicDE since KDE is going full retard.
Fuck Wayland. Fuck Systemd. Fuck age verification. Fuck trannies.
Life is good :)

>>108760350
virt-manager is nice. I am using it with Artix+Dinit and it just works.

>>108760981
That anon is just being mad because his feelings were hurt. Nothing he said is true or have any proof or source. He just made up everything.

>>108754994
Ventoy includes proprietary binary blobs that cannot be independently audited. This means it can contain malicious code now or in future updates.This lack of verifiability is a valid reason to avoid the proprietary spyware malware.

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>>108764190
Your loss lmao

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>>108764190
You are a non-tech-savvy failed low iq student zoomer. *

>Linux is compromised by Google/IBM/spooks
Open source means independent reviewers audit code while maintaining transparency.
>systemd is bloated/malicious
Artix and Gentoo are the alternative and for Windows/macOS people who love https://unlocked.microsoft.com/pride/ there is Void and Devuan.
>Rust in kernel is bad
Rust is optional and people choose it for memory safety, better performance and because it reduces entire classes of vulnerabilities.
>Wayland is worse than X11
True but you can use Artix and XLibre.
>Linux desktop is unusable for home users
Linux desktop is used at Google, Amazon and even at Apple and Microsoft. Linux desktop runs the world (not even talking about servers which is 100% usage in the world)
>BSDs are more secure than Linux
Cuck license. Linux has robust security frameworks (SELinux, AppArmor, seccomp). Security through obscurity isn't superior.
>Linux kernel has telemetry/backdoors
The kernel is publicly audited. Alleged "backdoors" are unsubstantiated.
>Portage is slow/poorly designed
Portage's flexibility and USE flags offer unmatched customization. Performance trade-offs enable powerful configuration options.
>Linux hardware support requires blobs
Same but worse with any OS like BSDs, Windows, macOS etc. You can have 100% blob free Linux.
>FOSS community lost control of Linux
Anyone can contribute, audit, or fork. Only cuck license BSDs, Windows and macOS has this problem.
>Corporate interests ruined Linux development
Corporate investment improved stability, security, and hardware support. Stuff like Valve, EU etc. are helped so much and everything is still open. Things that are not open are just additional things you don't have to use.

Install Artix + Dinit + XLibre + fork your own kernel without code of conduct etc. Have fun.

* https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/%22cy-x.net%2Ftopic%2Flinux-as-a-whole-is-compromised%22

>>108765497
Instructions unclear; installed Gentoo. Gomen, fampai...

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>>108764266
>SonicDE without runit

>>108765529
why runit?

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>>108765530
To make it go fast.

>>108729663
>transistor closer to popping
Anon, that's a capacitor

>>108729663
>transistor
lol tranimebrained retard

>>108736609
all of these are without proof, then
>their federated tech offers fediverse support
>fediverse support offers alternatives to corporate platforms
uh oh twattertard melty

>>108736517
delicious delicious melty

>>108738427
it's literally just (((red hat))) employees shitting up the thread

Does artix have artixinstall?

>>108766026
No. Install Gentoo.

>>108765946
>>108765959
I used official sources. Can you tell more about how all that made you feel?

>>108766026
https://github.com/MasterGenotype/Deploytix
https://github.com/h8d13/lagartixa
https://github.com/feribsd/artix-install

Does it make sense to have an Artix install with just KDE and Wayland?
I need Wayland for VRR and proper HDR support in games, and since I mainly use my PC for gaming(tm) I don't really see the point in having xlibre installed.
Maybe I should just stick with vanilla Arch for now, idk.

I'm not ready for gentoo yet so don't even bother recommend me that. Maybe one day

>>108768699
Install Gentoo you veganfaggot. It's easy.

>>108723224
tranny distro.
everyone knows the only two indies worth using are void and devuan.

>>108768699
I use artix/kde/wayland for hdr. It works fine.

>>108769731
What about your hrt?

>>108769814
nobody cares tranny, stop shitting up every discussion with your mental illness

>>108770097
>Artix
There is zero chance you're not on hrt and wearing thigh high socks.

>>108770171
The only people this obsessed with trannies are actual trannies.
For any lurkers out there interested in artix, faggots like this try to poison the well and pretend artix is somehow full of trannies when it's one of the few distros not allowing tranny rhetoric to infect it.
Try it and you'll see it's a breath of fresh air compared to the arch/void/gentoo drama.

>>108770260
I would try it, but it's a buggy pile of shit full of broken packages and half ass complied modules.
And it's full of trannies, like you.

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>>108723248
Because Qubes OS is beyond them.

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>>108764190
>retard literally uses relative timestamps on posts
What a retard blog site!

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>>108770171
Are you on drugs or something? Artix is only distro ever made without your obsession.

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>>108769550
>everyone knows
Everyone eats shit

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>>108770171
>>108769814
>>108769550
>>108768723
>>108770287

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>>108771588
Artix is based but I just want nothing to do with arch and all its flavors.

>>108771588
>being le hecking based is having common sense now
bruh.

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>>108771621
Gentoo is great, was using it until I got tired of compiling.
>>108771630
ikr

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>>108765563
Isn’t dinit like faster and betterer?

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>>108771588
>username: nous
>doesn't suck tranny-dick
>mfw my choice OS is developed by a Hermetic and transphobic based Gigachad
My OS chose me. It was destiny.

Devuan and Void are 1000x better than Shartix.
Shartix is like some high kid's weekend project as it really is a broken mess.

>>108766173
*misused
:)