It's overAI won...
If they were actually worried about this, they would NEVER "warn" us about it. They'd do it as fast as they fucking could and never look back. Jeff bezos already makes his people piss in bottles. He would make people unemployed just for fun. The fact they're trying to warn people about it categorically means they know there's no hope of it. But by virtue signaling like this, it's great marketing/boosterism (aka lying) and they get to run their fucking mouths (which they love to do).
>>108728336The only time I used e-mail in any work-related capacity was when I received an invitation to the christmas party
>>108728336but reddit and gamers told me the ai bubble was going to popyou mean they were wrong?!?!?
>>108728336It's sad seeing people here cheering on that shit. End of the day I think Id rather tolerate an SJW dystopia over an AI one. At least you can ignore annoying SJWs/feminists and just not live in minority infested areas.
>>108728385cheer up anoneither we are in the end times and the christcucks are right orthey were wrong which means all christian morals can go out the window and they can shut up forever
>>108728336Already done with corporate monopolies.
The worst part about this is the employed workers who facilitate this.If you work for a basterd you facilitate this.If you work for a corporate monopoly you facilitate this.Just fire all of them and they will stop manifesting this behavior.
>>108728364Thisfippythey're telling us because they are convinced what they have isn't as good as they sold, but if they say that part out loud, the investors get scared away.
Any jobs automated ai probably could have already been automated by an average dev with time. AI just gives the excel-class office worker the ability to automated some of their own work, thereby increasing their capacity to do more work.
>>108728385>just not live in minority infested areas.You know Obama was specifically putting low income housing in white areas right? You couldn't escape niggers under bog standard democrats and liberals let alone actual leftists.
>>108728493Hold on, we got bot detection on the case kek, we gonna stop that worker from automating their job with our new bot detection system.Just fire these mongs, you won't even notice they're gone.
If they're rich and you're poor, that's because them and their shit-eating workers are not being hit hard enough.
If you're poor you're a loser. If they're rich, they're a winner.This is why hacking is morally right. Programmers should go out there and destroy every single business they see until pay goes up.
Imagine you have a shit-eating corporation like Google, lawsuits in every single country, hires trash, trash in, trash out, unsatisfied everyone, still making money.
Imagine you have a shit-eating corpo who replaced all their workers with shit-eaters. The quality of every product goes down and suddenly your product has become toxic. The relative authorities have not been modified and you're destroying customer lives.Congratulations, you're not in prison.
>>108728520>Programmers should go out there and destroy every single business they see until pay goes up.Why don't we establish a union for programmers, hackers and such and hold all IT infrastructure hostage until pay increases?
>>108728336Without AI killbots you can just vote you their wealth. With AI killbots they will be first against the wall.
>>108728336the french invented a technological solution for this in the late 1700s
>>108729179that just means the Chinese ones are the only ones in existenceunless you think you can start something in China too
>>108728336>Permanent uncerclassKeep dreaming.
the underclass better not rise up and accept their fate as poor morons and get the lowest form a nutrition and nothing else
>>108729266oh I was referencing the fact the frogs just cut people's heads off
I have yet to replace anyone with Claude code
>>108728336>Silicon Valley permanent underclassYou mean a third permanent underclass besides the H1Bs and the illegal immigrants?
Some molotovs and a series of CEOs getting Luigi'd and we'll see how permanent your structure really is.
https://handyai.substack.com/p/your-ceo-is-suffering-from-ai-psychosis
>>108728719That wouldn't work when there's a billion indians lining up to replace you
silicon valley is in the underclass too lol, they arent the true wealth
>>108728385Add in the Indian cat snail poster at the bottom and that will be our future. And there is nothing you can do about it.
>>108730140Once security drones and robots are good, the proles won't come with 10 miles of a patrician ever again.
>>108728336The irony here is Silicon Valley already created an underclass. Many of them walk directly next to their drug tents on sidewalks on the way to work, and they have done so for over a decade.
>>108728385You are retarded. There is no "not live in minority infested areas" they will put low income housing right next to middle class housing and randomly import thousands of 3rd worlders into rural areas. Even if you do have the money to live away from the riffraff, Blacks will literally drive an hour away from their shitholes just to shop in the White area of town. If you have a bus they'll just plop their ass on that and wait until they get to the nice part of town. At least with an AI future, there is at least a chance it could result in UBI and paradise. There is no future where a "SJW" (out of touch much?) dystopia is even tolerable. t. lived in over a dozen different cities across multiple states in the US
>>108728336The word "bracing" implies that they think it's a bad thing that they have to prepare for. The permanent underclass is more of a reflection of the fantasies low level SV employees have about their own superiority
>>108728336Can't believe I wasted time reading that. Nonstop of this crap for years now and I still don't see AI taking any job, but I still see the salesman. I still see layoffs of a recession pointing and saying it's actually because of AI guys!!
>>108728364I use this same cope a lot myself, applied to other situations. Let's hope you're right.
>>108728336AiGODS and vibeGODS will inherit the earth
>>108728364It's a form of edging for them, they will coom eventually
>>108728336>>108728385The truth is these people where always likely part of the permanent underclass anyway.This idea of "normal" with a majority of people working white collar jobs was never the case historically and was never normal even nationwide.
>>108730201So the only ethical solution is to genocide all indians, got it.
>>108728336this is why we need to make guns and ammunition more availablewith enough firepower the permanent underclass can at least churn
>>108728364>If they were actually worried about this, they would NEVER "warn" us about it.They have been signalling every single thing they plan to do because nobody cans top them.>They'd do it as fast as they fucking could and never look backAlready did. Pc's are dead with parts being sold to datacenters, economy will be ruined with the Iran forever war and china tariffs.Ai is already being used for mass control. Fast doesn't mean a year, but over a span of 5-10 years.Each year from now to 2030 will be horrible. And then things will get so much worse.
optimism fags are hurting us more than anything
>>108728368Did you go?
>>108728385I’d rather pick the AI one, especially one set in stone before the SJWs regain power once their USAID money starts flowing again.
>>108728336AI can't create anything new that is actually coherent to reality.>b-but imagine it in five yearsImagining is for children.>>108730334Lol, Lmao even. Once they start becoming more popular there will be comically easy ways to beat them. Like fishing line in the trees easy.>>108732290Sorry about your shit life, bro. Mine keeps getting better. Learn to use your hands to actually fix and build then suddenly nothing a silicon faggot says matters anymore.
>>108728336land value taxes (not property taxes) with a dividend would solve this almost overnightrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxEdon't want to derail this thread into /pol/, just my thoughts on the topic
>>108728336>a bunch of indians want to implement the caste system everywhereWOWEE
>>108728336I can't decide if I'm too much of a sceptic over AI's capabilities or if people in the valley are too deep in the sauce and rhetoric.
>>108728336buy an ad
>>108728364These people are extremely arrogant and do not view you as human. To them, there is no danger in declaring their plans because it is like talking to an animal that cannot understand human language. Just as a house cat does not understand when you call him slurs, they believe that the people do not understand when they lay out their plans.
>>108728336Absolutely. A permanent underclass of people who are overly reliant on AI. I'm here for it.
>>108730465You have the mental age equivalent to that of a toddler.
>>108728336>this time AI will actually be able to do thingsYawn.
>>108728336mistake #1: living in silicon valley in 2026.mistake #2: accepting anything "jasmine sun" says as the truth.
You can only blame so many post-covid firings on AI.
>>108730201This is why the rich, and Western governments, love immigration and love Indians. They are stupid, servile, and will work for peanuts without complaining
>>108732703cope, snailcat, you will be left behind.>this is me btw
>>108730378In an AI future 95% of humans will be culled because they do not produce economic value, retard. UBI makes zero economic sense.
>>108732604That picture of Moldbug makes me laugh every time I see it.
>>108728434>all christian morals can go out the windowYou'll get what you want and find yourself living in India or Brazil. Retard. You don't have to be a Christian to understand that Western culture including morality/social norms is rooted in Christianity.
Search engines created a permanent underclass here for a few years after they got big. Then people learned to use search engines instead of posting new content and threads. Problem solved?
>>108730334It depends on a ton of factors, but the main one is just how determined and well organised the plebs are. There is literally no chance for billionaires to win an all out war against the plebs. But unfortunately the people are retarded.
>>108728336this is bs alarmist luddite propaganda. a permanent underclass has always existed and the ones destined to escape it will do so regardless. ai changes absolutely nothing. americans are too self obsessed to realize the us is the best positioned country on earth to handle this. realistically the permanent underclass will just be the rest of the globe. america will stay on top while third world nations remain trapped and many first world nations slide into the third world. if us politicians do not fuck this up and america automates its industry to bring back massive manufacturing, china is finished too.
>>108735451search engines don't take jobs away from humans>>108735451>>108735480it's super clear those who are in charge are trying to replace all humans with indians and other 30s and have been trying to do so since NAFTA and the creation of the WTO and shit back in the 1990s. there are vids of Ross Perot and some yuro politician talking about NAFTA and some GATT thing that created the WTO and everything they said would happen did happen.the entire reason the US has H1Bs and Student Visas is because the jewish head of the NSF under Reagan wanted to lower wages for stem workers. it's not even a conspiracy theory, the memos got released as part of a congressional hearing, that was explicitly their main goal
>>108735511corporations only survive through consumerism, and consumerism requires people with money. it is a mutual dependency. corporations need buyers and buyers need wealth, so the market will force capital to keep flowing. this will naturally create new avenues to escape the underclass. wealth cannot stay trapped in one place, which is exactly why america is best positioned to handle this shift. we might endure a short depression as downtime for the economy to restructure, but the adjustment is inevitable. do people don't understand just basic economical logic? i don't get the dooming.
>>108730465sorry but the ai bubble will pop anytime, spammer.>>108735145arrest, posting photoshopped photo of someone else's cat will not save you.
>>108735522people never recovered from the NAFTA shit. also for this board in specific, recent comp-sci grads have like the lowest employment rate of any major over the past few years. like fucking black queer lesbian studies shit have higher employment ratessome of it's AI based, but a lot of it is based on trying to replace people with indians and butthurt belters since they can pay them basically nothing >won't that fuck up the product and make it so they can't hire someone laterthe way basically every publicly traded company works is if you have decision making power you get paid based on next quarters growth over the expected growth and all that other shit is someone else's problem. you will have gotten paid and gotten the fuck out before the consequences of your actions catch up to you And think of all the boomers who died or retired during coof, the job market is FUCKED cause those jobs were never replaced
don't worry the free market will fix it
>>108735551What free market?
>>108735544>you will have gotten paid and gotten the fuck out before the consequences of your actions catch up to youthis is why i said we might get a short depression as a downtime but the economy will restructure so the consumers keep consuming. ironically the corporate greed will save us, the abundance is inevitable.
>>108728336>wowzers! omg anons the future is going to be totally cyberpunk! holy heck!why the fuck should we care? whether we do or not, we have zero impact on what the rich and powerful do to this world. just look at the epstein files. fucking dumbass, go onions out on reddit & x.
>>108735568this>>108735551we don't have a free market, we have regulations and I'd have to check, but under brandon nearly all of the regulators were either VPs from big industry companies or somehow became VPs the second they left their government job>>108735576they're already changing their model and only going for the top 10% of income earners and saying fuck everyone else
>>108728364there are no "they" everyone in middle is screwed, middle class is being wiped out in realtime and everyone sees it and been warning about it for ~decade already and top billionaires - the only ones who are winning - dont give a fuck about plebs, but they give a fuck about safety and that means keeping plebs pacified so they never revolt
>>108735594that is not how it works and it never has been. corporations constantly expand, which is why we get the new heckin macbook neo for $600 beating all competition in the segment and 43 inch 4k tvs for $150. restructuring takes time. as long as the government does not overregulate to create regulatory capture, and we maintain access to resources without new wars or inflation caused by money printing, things will inevitably get better after an initial shock. ai is nothing to worry about. as an american you should be celebrating it. the actual things americans should care about are not even talked about. deregulation, ending money printing, a sound currency backed by real assets, breaking ties with lobbies, and eliminating all regulatory capture. once again, corporate greed in a capitalist economy is by default bound to create more consumers and bigger consumers. money will keep flowing one way or another.
>>108735632are you fucking aware of the great depression or nip assent bubble and lost generation? they are restricting to sell only to the top 10% and to fuck everyone else. there's a reason only indians and chinamen and butthurt belters are high on AI
>>108728336Just asked chatgpt how many R's are in strawberry and it got it right. Holy shit ai shitters might be right.
>>108735650Now add an extra r and try again.
>>108735642>they are restricting to sell only to the top 10% and to fuck everyone else.you are going schizzo anon, go out and touch grass, that literally can not happen in a capitalist system because of the way money flows.the great depression was a credit bubble that self corrected. the nip asset bubble was speculative and it self corrected. the lost generation was just disillusionment from world war 1. nothing changes, the market will self correct and it will happen fast because capital flow is higher than ever because of digitization.
>>108735650asked how many r's in strawperry and it said 0
>>108735677the lost generation was 30 years of nip economy stagnation>let them eat cake
>>108735694i thought you were talking about the world war 1 lost generation not the lost decades of japan. again it was bubble caused by speculation, not stagnation. before the bubble popped, people literally thought japan would be the next superpower because of their booming economy and massive manufacturing much like china today.
>>108729266The Chinese will literally just give you access if you pay they're more about money than the tech bros are
>>108729274>accept their fate as poor morons and get the lowest form a nutrition and nothing elsefactory workers and entire coal mining towns did that, and you'll do the same
>>108728336It already happened like eight years ago.
>>108732604>they believe that the people do not understand when they lay out their plans.and people do not. everyone who isn't grinding 7 days a week to find a way out is succumbing to passive normalcy bias, like >>108728364AI or not, a rigidly stratified society is the historical norm and the recent run of high social mobility is the aberration that can only happen when the stars align. In this case it was the industrial revolution that enabled meritocratic, technocratic entities to outcompete traditional social organizations because suddenly any sufficienty smart prole could give you a competitive edge by discovering new and better ways to do things. Now that human intelligence is becoming largely irrelevant again it is once again a question of who already controls all the limited resources and the game is zero-sum
>>108735632>a sound currency backed by real assets,the evergreen shiboleth of the retarded
>>108735766youve got any better alternative for a unit of exchange?
>How i live knowing that AI exists
>>108728336Still mass hiring developers in EU, what that AI fuzz all about?
>>108735803fiat currency. asset-backed currencies artificially reduce credit and investment availability, they reduce social mobility rather than increase it.
>>108735830crypto is too volatile, it's hard to take it serious.
>>108728364Those companies are not composed of just Sam Altman and Elon Musk, thousands of people work there and If you actually listen to what the BILLIONAIRES say then you don’t hear the permanent underclass shit. You just have contrarian brainrot that makes you think 100% of talking points that average people use are from the ruling class elites and that there is 0 authenticity coming from the bottom or middle. I don’t think even Dario Amodei from Anthropic who keeps warning about end of white collar jobs by next Claude code release never mentioned the permanent underclass. The idea came from the AFFECTED tech workers in Silicon Valley who saw coding agents take some of their jobs which they didn’t expect 5 years ago.
>>108728336It is not AI. It is USA's windfall from its post-WWII boom is finally gone. Just on time as well as its main benefactors are checking out en mass from mortality. The survivors are just picking up the multi-decade tab of extravagance. It will result in balkanization of the USA and a speed run back into Feudalism as the Republic become insolvent.
>>108728336Those rich fags are the minority of a minority. When the majority really start to feel real hunger, they better move to the bunkers they build. Not that's gonna save them tho.
>>108728336nigger, its the other way round. all the tech companies are about to go bust due to ai generated open source equivalent products. also jewlywood and netflix due to blatant disregard for copyright
>>108737279the entire trillion dollar valuation of an ai company hinges on the fact that a disgruntled employee/russian hacker/micro drone doesn't come in with a usb and copy the entire model & release it to the world
>>108737298steps?
>>108735677>that literally can not happen in a capitalist system because of the way money flows.It wasn't real capitalism lol
>>108735725and it's stagnated ever since with quality of life only going down over that time period
>>108735828the EU is a third world country and eu devs make about the same as indians, which is to say, poverty wages. they want thirdies so they don't have to pay them
>>108735830>fiatewww. literally every metric for wealth for the average person went down when the US switched to fiat. it's always the inflection point in all of the graphs
>>108737219it's because there aren't enough barriers between countries so the mega rich are using third world labor in india and the butthurt belt of yurop because they can pay thirdies pennies on the dollar
>>108735157"Economic value" is a complete meme already. Nowaday the economy is just jewish tricks, speculation and virtual numbers going up and down. 90% of people do useless jobs, you could have 45% of people try to dig a hole and another 45% try to fill it back up and it would amount to about the same result, maybe with less air pollution and waste. In the middle ages you had a bunch of peasants working less than 50% of the year on crops and everyone was fed, today we have technology to make things extremely efficiently but our society has become incredibly bloated and wasteful, prefering trying to sell useless crap to people and having 30 layers of administrative bullshit to everything so it's all tedious and nobody has a global view of what's going on. AI will literally change nothing about that, it'll only make the bloat and wastefulness worse and more apparent.
>>108728373Bubbles always pop
>>108728385AI niggers would rather (reluctantly, sadly) that 90% of humanity be confined to a permanent underclass, or the shredder, than admit that they were wrong about their ridiculous memetechCertain planks are load-bearing for them:>tech solves all problems>technological progress is happening>transfer of consciousness to machine is possible>technologies from old TV shows will one day be real>we are all super smart
>>108728486If it's true that OpenAI's going to have adverts... think what that means>Our tech will replace 90% of white-collar workers at 90% efficacy>Companies don't want to pay us any money despite us saving them aggregate trillions in wages
>>108728493"Work expands to fill the time available." This is well understood; plus, most work these days is fake, make-work to comply with regulatory fiat.If your job is to summarise data for your boss, AI (at best) makes it so your boss will ask for ten times the data, which will be summarised by AI, and your job will be to summarise the AI summaries
>>108737534I think a good example of this is how GDP is the single worst way to measure an economy and the fact GNP, which is still shit, exists and was replaced by GDP proves this
>>108728520I'm not tech literate. Could website owners place AI poison pills in robots.txt or some such to taint the training data?I don't advocate this btw, I think AI must be allowed to fail on its own so that some portion of our brainiac class can accept that it's stupid and pointless and devote their remaining time, hopefully, to something useful
>>108728336claim to build a new world utopia. really just rediscover slavery. many such cases.
>>108730378>they will put low income housing right next to middle class housing and randomly import thousands of 3rd worlders into rural areas.I live in a ~ruralish area. Apartment complexes have been going up, and life quality is declining. It fucking sucks.30 miles from a medium size city. There is nowhere you can go thats far enough; they will hunt you to the ends of the Earth & squeeze anything they can get.
>>108730465I would argue, but whats the point. One day you people will burn in hell for what youve done.
>>108737687Thankfully I live in an area where most of the land is taken up around me.We live in fucking trailers yet the property values in the neighborhood are 250k-350k.A lot of the apartments are faux "luxury" apartments with $1500 rent. IDK who actually rents them as they are farther away.
i think it's more likely that AI will replace teams and institutions than individual workers
